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Bank Of America's Legal Woes Go Global After Norway's Sovereign Wealth Fund Sues For Mortgage Fraud

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Thu, 09/08/2011 - 01:30 | 1645045 Flakmeister
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Go get 'em....

Definately pulling for the "socialists" on this one.... heh, heh, heh

It would be a pity if Tan Man lost his tanning bed....

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 01:44 | 1645075 X.inf.capt
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Thu, 09/08/2011 - 02:06 | 1645101 boiltherich
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Sort of sad really, those that bought in had all the sophistication that BAC had and sometimes more, they knew what they were investing in, the ground floor of a ponzi, but the sad part in all of this is that the individuals responsible will neither go to jail nor will their personal assets be attached.  This piling in for the kill only assures that BAC will be destroyed and a lot of good people with it, purely for revenge, but those that should suffer will not.  OPEN LINK IN A NEW TAB and pour a fresh one   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4X9ciZfZQw&feature=related

Have a drink and listen and think, think what could have been had man lot let the wealthy fuckers screw it up for all the rest. 

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 03:26 | 1645234 Michael
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A colleague of mine at work who was only interested in sports and entertainment spent the holiday weekend researching the economic collapse and the worldwide revolutions.

I think I created a monster, listening to what he had to say today. 

The sport of champions; Economic Calamity Porn(ECP).

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 03:45 | 1645254 Michael
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I think we should Un-Unify the Federal Budget and sever the Social Security Trust Fund from it.

That way, the SS issue is always off the table.

How do you like them apples?

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 06:00 | 1645344 Tell me lies
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Bet the farm on the over in tonight's game. I don't think the quants have moved into this space.
Thu, 09/08/2011 - 06:19 | 1645354 rcintc
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I don't understand why Fannie & Freddie are getting off scott free.  These bastards should be sued, tarred, featherd, caned, whipped etc... also.  They're the ones that set the loose parameters that the banks / mortgage companies followed. They should ALL be named in the suit. 

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 07:03 | 1645386 New_Meat
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Thu, 09/08/2011 - 07:39 | 1645415 WSP
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Then you clearly do not understand just how corrupt and broken our entire US/American society has become.   The kleptocrats and other criminals that oversee our government and banking industry have completely destroyed all honesty and transparency.   They look out for their own and a few million here, a few million there, and people keep their mouth shut. 

Like most problems, this Norway one will go away with a few bought off officials leaving the citizens of Norway no better off than when this press release was generated.  All this press release is for is to make sure the criminals at BAC see that the kleptocrats in Norway are serious---give us some money to enrich ourselves or we will keep producing press releases.

People, the world is corrupt---THAT IS ALL YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND!

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 11:30 | 1646326 Clycntct
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Put a face on them not the co. Then pull out the ropes and find a good tree.

And don't forget to pick their pockets clean before the buzzards scatter the remains.

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 05:03 | 1645303 Snidley Whipsnae
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Michael... I think you should make your colleague aware of this bit of info... PAGE isn't mentioned in the article but it's the first Chinese platform coming on line to offer large scale convertibility... "Yuan convertible by 2015: China to EU Chamber"...

"Chinese officials told European Union business executives that the yuan will achieve “full convertibility” by 2015, EU Chamber of Commerce in ChinaPresident Davide Cucino said.

“We were told by those officials by 2015,” Cucino told reporters in Beijing yesterday, declining to identify the government departments involved. He said the step-by-step process was indicated at a meeting in the last several weeks."


Thu, 09/08/2011 - 08:55 | 1645565 goldfish1
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This show ain't near over.

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 09:11 | 1645645 Dingleberry
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"The Love of money is the root of all evil"-- GOD

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 15:11 | 1647279 Cathartes Aura
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tell that to all the God-botherers running for office in amrka.

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 18:26 | 1648070 boiltherich
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I thought Jeebus wanted me to be rich? 

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 07:03 | 1645385 nmewn
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"Definately pulling for the "socialists" on this one..."


Me too, but maybe for different reasons. I'm looking forward to Angelo's gallows speech where he lists his "friends".

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 01:31 | 1645051 Tense INDIAN
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increasingly getting the feeling that BAC will be the new LEHMAN

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 02:06 | 1645105 AnAnonymous
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Who knows?

One thing is sure though: the US have triggered the hostilities on their own banks to make sure they have initiative on this topic and not spread a usvsthem mentality that would be damageful to the US.

US citizens have never been interested in justice, they are only interested in being in control of Injustice. Dont be on the wrong side of it and now and then, well, choosing your own punishment is much better than having to face punishment made up by others, specially if it helps to maintain control over injustice.

That is the US world order.

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 03:55 | 1645261 oldman
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This is exactly the unintended consequences of playing politics with 'justice'.

Everyone in the game had a line of respect that they would not cross because of the 'club', even though their 'brothers' in the US lied and abused thirty years of trust in selling the shit to them. No one would have ever expected that the sellers were at the same time putting this shit together in order that they could short it----a few loose emails from GS, remember?

Bankers are not always 'nice people', but the Europeans thought that doing business over a long period of time with another bank meant that one did not lie or commit fraud in these relationships. Our boys, broke all of the norms of behavior of the civilized world----they lied and cheated and stole the money.

What is really interesting to me is that our banks got the money and spent it and now they may go out of business leaving a shitload of derivatives hanging-----I don't understand any of the derivative stuff, but I think this means that 'debt forgiveness' may take the form of evaporation under the process called bankruptcy---

The TBTF banks may have bitten the poison pellet----thanks to playing politics with the justice system because sure as hell the president signed off on the hfha suit---a half baked, ill prepared piece of shit

well, it's about time we came to this----will these cases be heard in the victim's country? I don't know, but as my grandson says, "I think so"               om

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 08:56 | 1645573 goldfish1
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They're not OUR boys. They're ringers made to look like our boys.

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 15:27 | 1647372 Cathartes Aura
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for the record, who are "out boys"?  just curious.

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 01:32 | 1645052 Dr. Hannibal Lecter
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Growing up on a farm, when the horse pulled up lame, ya shot it.  BAC is lame.

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 02:18 | 1645127 boiltherich
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B of A  was a proud and well run bank, it was people, men, they did this and they should pay.  I am starting to think we need a corporate Nuremberg Court to find out which persons were responsible for what.  At what level is death warranted?  At what level is life in prison?  At what level do they walk but with a mark on their record that does not allow them to handle the money of others, or sit with children?  Mark my words right now, what is being done is no less in the west and America that the sweeping fascist empire of the thirties and forties.  It is a crime with real victims, too organized not to be a conspiracy, not enough evidence of colusion to convict individuals, but epic displacement and destruction just the same.  And there are people doing this, acting in concert even if we can't prove a Wannsee meeting. 

I would like to see everybody with unearned income over $500,000 total in their lives stand up for an audit.  Everyone with total assets over 2 million, audit.  If any of it was from bonuses gotten after TARP confiscate it.  No matter the consequences, and I do not say that lightly. 

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 04:11 | 1645277 eureka
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It - the credit driven housing bubble - was blown for the sake of US Empire.

Dispersed liquidity flow via the home construction and all related businesses increased GDP and IRS revenues all of which sustained the world's faith in the "full faith and credit of the US government" - i.e. continued USD world reserve status, US bond sales, US military hegemony etc etc with all the associated benefits for the US corporate bankster and armed and security forces elites and providers and their peons' buy-in.

US owes its past decade's growth to Mozillo, Fannie, Freddie and all the other scumbags - because IF THE FAKE GROWTH HADN'T BEEN CREATED - THER WOULD HAVE BEEN NO GROWTH.

Oh well - here comes the inevitable collapse - just a little later.

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 04:45 | 1645293 spdrdr
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+1 green for that.


The US economy (and empire) was cratering in August 2001.  If not for a war-footing event, there would have been no growth for the remainder of the first decade of this century, while working off the combined credit excesses of the Y2K tech boom, and the dot.com boom.  By the same token, we would not be in the present position, would we? 

This ledgerdemain, I think, will not work as successfully again.  Instead, we reap what was sown......

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 05:54 | 1645339 Snidley Whipsnae
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Eureka... What you say is certainly true but there is much more at stake than BOA, or any individual bank. A good case can be made that the world, and especially the US, needs to down size it's financial sector.

The entire world (all exporters) are dependent on the US as a dumping ground for consumer goods.

The 'dollar system' allows the current world financial system (exporters/importers) to exist and continue.

The system has been disrupted by stagnant wages paid to US consumers, hobbling US consumption, and serial bubbles blown by Fed interest rate policies. The major cause for stagnant US wages was the blossoming of the US Financial sector; ie, financialization of the US economy after Nixon closed the gold window to soverigns.

While the size of the US financial sector grew by about 40%, US workers pay remained stagnant as the finance sector salaries and bonuses grew by leaps and bounds.

Without a driver for higher US wages the decline of the current Bretton Woods dollar system (US as importer of last resort) will continue to deterioriate.

Neither the Fed nor the US Gov has monetary or fiscal tools to fix the lack of wage increases for US workers... Witness the wages of today are the same as 25 years ago in inflation adjusted terms. Historically, the driver for wages has been flourishing small businesses... and, they have been hobbled by regulation and financialization. The financiers want a bigger piece of the US economic pie and they are getting it...at the expense of destroying the system that allowed them to flourish.

A failure of the Bretton Woods Dollar system means collapse of the current world economic model.

Exporters and importers are equally caught in this dollar system trap as the various countries attempt to devalue their fiat to retain their share of the exporting pie.

The world financial system as it exists is doomed to failure sans serious restructuring, and since the financial system has a strangle hold on soverigns there is little hope of meaningful restructuring.

Got gold?



Thu, 09/08/2011 - 08:55 | 1645400 IBelieveInMagic
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The USD reserve currency has been the root cause of the trade imbalances but the calculus is that it worked well for the US -- we got to consume way more than we deserve (for mere exchange of paper/electronic digits), the valuable commodities (eg. 30% of world oil consumption) to the point the easy supplies are getting exhausted. There is plenty of potential consumer demand in the world -- in Asia, Africa, South America but the global financial system is configured to support consumption in the OECD countries and to keep down the rest.

So, for all the whining that I hear on ZH and elsewhere, this system was perpetrated for our benefit. Else we are in denial.

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 07:40 | 1645416 YHC-FTSE
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@Eureka. Nicely said.

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 08:59 | 1645590 goldfish1
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Debt creation and bubbles come from the FED.

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 11:00 | 1646153 MSimon
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Could you explain how Ireland and Spain fit in?

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 18:42 | 1648123 boiltherich
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Simple really, they already reached their end game and the markets saw that there would be default, so interest rates shot up to the point where even if someone was dumb enough to lend them more they could not afford the vig on it.  But, the Germans and French banks and financial institutions had so much exposure to the PIGS that to simply sit by and watch as these nations defaulted and left the EZ would have been the death of the core EZ banks.  So, Germany and France, but more Germany, put a gun to the heads of those nations in deep shit and said they would require them to borrow enough to repay the French and German bankers.  It might have looked like a bailout of Ireland, Greece, Portugal, but it was not, it was a bailout of the banks.  Not only that but it was at interest rates that are unsustainably high. 

In the case of Ireland it was a housing bubble that was the driver, and keep in mind Ireland does not allow one to discharge mortgage debt in bankruptcy, if you get behind you better start planning to emigrate.  Spain also had a huge bubble, but in their case the bailouts are really too large for the bailout fund, and Italy is just not even to be considered, it would require Germany and France to float trillions just for Italy alone.  Not bailing them out will result in a depression, bailing them out will result in hyperinflation/depression eventually. 

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 10:53 | 1646106 trentusa
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thanks for the most intelligent post I've read anywhere in a while.

What that guy said!!!

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 07:17 | 1645396 fishface
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right on from TBTF to TSTL ( too sick to live)

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 01:34 | 1645056 UGrev
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BAC.. you are the weakest link... Goodbye. 

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 01:35 | 1645058 BlackholeDivestment
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...tricky bastards.

Agent Orange, lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XgSEUVutUE

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 01:38 | 1645065 UGrev
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Thanks for clearing up that ref.. fucking funny.. you guys..funny.. :)

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 01:37 | 1645062 Ima anal sphincter
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Will these crooks EVER get exactly what they deserve? Massive jail time and ALL their ill-gotten gains confiscated? Never!!! Only if the people finally wake up and "force" it on them, will justice be served.

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 01:37 | 1645064 oldman
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This is the 'other shoe' that we have been waiting for-----good news for you gold and silver riders

Imagine---suing a thief----this is really going to be fun!     om

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 02:22 | 1645077 Sequitur
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In the immortal words of Mortal Kombat: Norway, finish him!

I salute Norway. I salute every company who sues these goddamn fraudulent banks and bankers into oblivion.

Norway, it is an abhorrent disgrace to U.S. citizens that BAC has "America" in its name. Please, on behalf of the citizens of these United States, zero this bitch out.

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 10:58 | 1646130 FeralSerf
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It used to be the Bank of Italy.  It was more honorable then.

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 01:47 | 1645079 interbanker
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Thu, 09/08/2011 - 01:49 | 1645080 Frederic Bastiat
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couldn't care less for BoA, but come on!  Is every asset manager in the world also going to give back his/her 8% mbs returns from 2000 - 2007?  They were all loving it then, isn't it obvious that those gains weren't real.  

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 01:56 | 1645095 oldman
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This is what used to happen if a simple retail broker did not fully disclose the risks, but in this case we are talking about fraud! This is what the universe calls justice.

willis justice

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 02:40 | 1645188 Frederic Bastiat
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I mean I agree that they probably have a case.  It's just that no one thought this was fraud back then becuase most were under the 'history tells us the future' spell.  Once everyone realized that housing prices do actually go down, then we decided that bad loans were fraud, because the underlying assets wouldn't back stop the investments.  If housing prices don't go down, no fraud complaints.  So on we go, lets just drag a couple more trillion dollars through the courts.  Maybe our grandchildren will know what economic growth is like.  

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 03:59 | 1645266 oldman
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In most Western countries, I believe fraud is a criminal offense---you fucking go to jail for it

I don't knowv what else to say to your post

respectfully    om

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 04:18 | 1645281 Alpha Monkey
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Where have you been old man?  I have yet to see any serious fraud perpetrators see the inside of a cage for it.  Ole Berny aint got shit on what the TBTFs have pulled off.

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 04:26 | 1645285 oldman
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I live in a timewarp where ethics are important---and there is, at least, honor among thieves. Everyone here understands understands that just because a couple of generations are ethically corrupt that 'it ain't over yet'.

The universe is not a personal place, so justice in the universe is what is----I am disillusioned because of 'my' expectations until I remember that it is not personal, but because of a desire for 'justice' I get excited at each trial;

and I have witnessed justice often.

Thanks for stirring up an oldman     om

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 01:48 | 1645081 angrybill
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"Billions are at the game"


Someone's been at the Google translate again...

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 01:54 | 1645092 Sokhmate
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Thu, 09/08/2011 - 02:11 | 1645114 Fanatic
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= Billions are in play, or Billions are at stake.

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