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The Bank Of England Made Me Do It

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Wonder who was pushing Barclays to manipulate its rate? Why none other than the English Fed. From BBG:


In other words, a central banks was directly and indirectly involved in manipulating interest rates. Say it isn't so. Fast forward two months when the BOE's Tucker testifies that the Chairsatan made him do it.

And below is the "note"


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Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:31 | 2583644 GeneMarchbanks
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How is this news?

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:32 | 2583652 The trend is yo...
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This should be good for another 50 es points

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:36 | 2583685 bsdetector
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If he walks with a pension we'll know they bought his silence.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:38 | 2583708 Cursive
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TPTB (namely the BOE) could have either of them silenced (permanently) in a matter of moments.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:46 | 2583742 BaBaBouy
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Well the Lie Bore soiled undies are on display in the open.


So how about the GOLD manip thats been heavy for 25 Yrs plus???


GOLD to the Moon, Bitchez... (Its Commin')

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:51 | 2583782 Bananamerican
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"the Chairsatan made him do it"

...for the children.

or was it "to" the children?.....i get confused

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:04 | 2583832 TheDarkKnight
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If they do it to LIEBOR why can't they do it to gold too?



The current five participants in the fixing, who must be members of the London Bullion Market Association, are:


Yeah now just wait and watch for gold to SKYROCKET.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 12:48 | 2584110 sunaJ
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If I understand the timeline correctly, most of the blatant LIBOR manipulation took place prior to 2008.  In OCTOBER of 2008, BoE official calls Diamond and suggests that Barclay's LIBOR rates could be lower.  Is this because after 2008, the banks (and especially Barclay's) realized that the LIBOR rates must come up to be more in compliance with reality, and then were asked by the BoE to bring them back down?  

If that's the case, the blatant fraud had been occurring for years already and only got attention from BoE when banks started trying to reset the LIBOR higher in a bid to cover their tracks.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 13:01 | 2584346 strannick
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Barclays, BOE. Eventually the buck just gets passed back to Satan.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:38 | 2583711 Temporalist
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This should last as news for another 15 minutes when Anderson Cooper comes out of the closet for the third time.

And in other news, Tom Cruise says the Bank of England made him break up with Katie.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:42 | 2583732 lostintheflood
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And in other news, Tom Cruise says the Bank of England made him break up with Katie.


please get it right!  i read huffpo and it said katie broke up with tom...

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:43 | 2583743 Temporalist
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My apologies to the Thetans.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:27 | 2583964 Alpacanio
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In other news... Anderson and Tom are Hollywoods newest couple!

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:52 | 2583787 Stoploss
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Sub prime crisis "containment" exposed..


Wake the fuck up..

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:55 | 2584112 Not Too Important
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How about all the pension and retirement funds that were tied to LIEBOR rates and lost money? Probably into the hundreds of billions worldwide, if not more.

How soon before all the state/province DAs file lawsuits? Will they sue the BOE, in addition to the big banks? How about the US AG? Well, we know the answer to that one.

I suppose the big question right now is, if war breaks out, does all this go away?

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 12:00 | 2584143 Citxmech
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Bingo, and


Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:57 | 2583813 battle axe
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More importantly Andy Griffith just died. 

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:05 | 2583834 tocointhephrase
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How is this news? Here you go:


  1. Newly received or noteworthy information, esp. about recent or important events.
  2. A broadcast or published report of news.
Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:20 | 2583918 William113
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This is news because its reminds everybody that these bankers all come from the same tribe. This is what happens when one small group of people get way to much power. Wait until Barry O wins the fixed election and then ask HOW IS THIS NEWS.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:31 | 2583650 francis_sawyer
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Next thing you know they'll be telling us we live in a democracy...

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:33 | 2583667 Buckaroo Banzai
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But but but... ah, fuck it.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:32 | 2583654 Acet
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I didn't want to do it, twas the voices in my mind that made me do it!

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:32 | 2583657 holdbuysell
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Cockroach theory says this will get to the Federal Reserve before this is over.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:45 | 2583751 ArkansasAngie
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Only if the light is turned on.


Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:55 | 2583802 EscapeKey
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Nah, the intermediaries will all die of totally unrelated heart attacks.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:28 | 2583972 Arkadaba
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in hot tubs

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:33 | 2583664 DeadFred
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The only interesting or novel thing here is how the sharks are turning on one another

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:34 | 2583676 Buckaroo Banzai
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The center cannot hold, it seems.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:44 | 2583706 hedgeless_horseman
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London's sharks do not live forever.

The Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living


Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:51 | 2583788 john39
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all part of the theatre.   they will collapse the banks, and offer banker heads up to placate the masses.   They will use this publically generated outrage and anger to create their next control mechanism(s) like global currencies, digital currencies, supernational banks etc.   don't fall for it.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:12 | 2583876 i-dog
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Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:56 | 2583800 Bananamerican
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"London's sharks do not live forever"

the only good shark is a tranched shark...

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:50 | 2583735 Sudden Debt
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They could go for the pliers tactic like Hanibal did with the Romans, it worked over and over again.

let them think they are winning, pull back in the center, circle movement from the sides and... SQUEEZE!! SLAUGHTERHOUSE 2 BITCHEZ!!!!!!




Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:47 | 2583764 gjp
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We can only hope.  It's held against the odds for far too long, and done a tremendous amount of damage along the way.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 16:20 | 2584024 HardlyZero
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High DEBT can not be financed if interest rates go UP.

This could be a major 'interesting time'.

Prepare now.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:37 | 2583694 CosmicDebris
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No fucking doubt.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:40 | 2583720 resurger
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Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:50 | 2583765 Shizzmoney
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When societies disintergrate/revolt, it is usually not led by the poor class (minus the French Revolution, which was a total revolt), but a dissention amongst "elites" and well-to-do middle intellectual middle classes (ie John Adams).

Look at the American Revolution.  It was basically a disagreement between "elites" on one end of the pond vs anohter on how to live their faith, ownership rights, tax/representation, and of course, the fight over who gets to print and use, what currency (which was the main reason).

Benjamin Franklin wasn't a poor man when he came to 1750s Philly.

Then, it all resets, and the "elites" against herd the sheep back into their barns. 

There a book called, "Taming Democracy", which is a must read for anyone on this board.  Political Upheaval is really a tale of two cities.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:58 | 2583811 EscapeKey
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During a revolution, part of the bourgeoisie and upper class trade places, but apart from that, no real societal change happens.


Tue, 07/03/2012 - 13:17 | 2584414 terryfuckwit
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Exactly... great to see the scum getting shafted by the scum. Doesn't really matter how good your funny hand shake is or how far you roll the old trouser leg up....still all eminently shaftable... watch them start screaming for the law

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:37 | 2583666 Captain Benny
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Oh snap, the system continues the big unwind.  Bigger news in the days to follow... get your popcorn ready and stock up on butter!

Sounds like the shit is hitting the fan at the Morgue nowdays as well.... I'm really hoping for some fourth of July fireworks, maybe they'll put up a good show.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:34 | 2583672 doomandbloom
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so 2005=2008 was fine?

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:41 | 2583674 Dr. Engali
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A central bank manipulating interest rates...who would have thunk it? Next thing you will be trying tell me that the Easter bunny doesn't really exist.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:36 | 2583690 Cursive
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This is an attempt to place the blame on del Missier.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:46 | 2583756 financial apoca...
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clearly some1 has to take the hit

but no way the BoE comes out unscathed unless the FSA is in on this. oh wait.. fuck

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:37 | 2583695 DavidC
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"Fast forward two months when the BOE's Tucker testifies that the Chairsatan made him do it".

It wouldn't be in the least surprising given Timmah's meddling in Europe and trying to get them to be 'more proactive'.


Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:37 | 2583696 tocointhephrase
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"Its a puppet"

Brian Conley

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:37 | 2583697 Conman
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I agree non news really, all the CBs manipulate rates openly and the markets love it.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:38 | 2583709 CreativeDestructor
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Is there anything or anywhere not rigged by these cunts?!

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:39 | 2583713 orangedrinkandchips
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Once again, I direct you to the clip from STRIPES where John Candy comes clean about his weight problem...

the reaction makes it a classic from the other guys....classic

Same thing with these tidbits... for example....the JPM ex-salesperson thinks he's cool at 23yrs old ratting out his old employer. They made me push the bunk JPM funds over cheaper better funds!

No shit sherlock! It's a game as old as time.

Tell me something I dont know.....

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:39 | 2583719 PaperBear
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Oh yeah, baby, baby.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:47 | 2583721 Sudden Debt
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kill everybody?

but... but...

the dog also? he's so cute....


Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:40 | 2583723 LongSoupLine
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fuck them all...period.


I'm so way beyond being sick of this shit.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:48 | 2583767 paint it red ca...
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what is so damn discouraging is, in this slow motion train wreck, the engine may have jumped the track but the coal car hasnt even left the rails yet.

the grinding stop has yet to begin.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:54 | 2583797 Sudden Debt
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fuck them all...?



Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:40 | 2583725 mark7
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Herr Steiner - Vice-Chancellor of (Greater) Germany.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:41 | 2583726 eclectic syncretist
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Why shouldn't they think they are above the law when everything that's happened over the last several years says they are above the law.  The populace apparently has neither the brains or balls to change things.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:41 | 2583727 Winston Churchill
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I'm shocked.Truly shocked.

That this wormed has turned.Not about  the LI(E)BOR 'fixing" though.

One oz of gold says this leads to Turbo Tax Timmy and the NY Fed.

Takers anyone ?

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:57 | 2583815 Temporalist
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I'll take that bet.  My gold is being held with JP Morgan so you may only get 1/1000000th of an ounce and good luck finding it if I lose.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:41 | 2583729 DormRoom
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free markets to centrally planned markets by, and for the private banks.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:35 | 2584015 HardlyZero
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Suppressing interest rates to allow the central banks to finance their trillions in DEBT.

How will the DEBT be financed now with high interest rates ?

This is a MAJOR tipping point.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:41 | 2583731 Plymster
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Now we know why there was that mass exodus of banking "talent" over the past quarter.  Everyone knew this was about to come out.  When this trail leads to the Fed, it will be the end of the banking industry and the stock "market".  This is the flash that everyone was looking for.  Because unlike the US, Europe >might< actually demand redress for the criminality and prosecute it accordingly.

Of course, I might just be fantasizing about seeing Bernanke, Geithner, Dimon, Blankfein, Summers, et al. in front of a criminal court in the Hague getting the chair for their trillions of dollars of theft...

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:42 | 2583733 paint it red ca...
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Oh, well then, that just makes everything alright.

dont look here folks, keep moving, nothing to see here.....................

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:43 | 2583741 Shizzmoney
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Ya gotta be fuckin' kidding me!

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:43 | 2583745 lizzy36
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Brings to mind a great quote. The first line is often quoted....second line gives the whole scene context.

"I'm shocked. Shocked to find there is gambling going on in here"

"Your winnings sir"

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:44 | 2583747 Linus2011
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the evil little devils and wizards in my head make me do these evil things

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:44 | 2583748 mark7
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Got lead insulated fridges, Brits? T minus 10, 9, 8,....

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:45 | 2583749 Whoa Dammit
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I really liked this quote from an earlier post:

*Simon Willis, Daniel Stewart & Co investment bank:“Firstly, we find it difficult, given the dearth of senior banking management talent, [to see] who Bob Diamond’s replacement might be."

 An organ grinders monkey who grabs coins and tips his hat would be a fitting replacement. 

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:27 | 2583963 Plymster
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First, the monkeys in the City tip their hats to no man.

Second, that monkey had better have hands like King Kong to grab that many coins.

Third, if you can't fill the position, maybe it doesn't need to be filled.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:46 | 2583753 Dr. Engali
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All this and the morgue just turned positive. I thought they stopped their buy back program.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:46 | 2583758 HaroldWang
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What gives with the Euro spike? Anyone?

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:59 | 2583766 Sudden Debt
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Like every rapist says to his victim:

SSSssstttTT, It's just me.... your pastor/daddy/uncle/president


Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:49 | 2583770 orangedrinkandchips
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This is like going into a McDonalds and talking to a morbidly obese humanoid and them sharing the secret that THEY HAVE A WEIGHT PROBLEM......





Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:00 | 2583823 Sudden Debt
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BIGBONED OKAY!! BIGBONED... with a little bit of grease on the sides....

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:46 | 2584077 onebir
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I'm shocked there's a memo of the phone call. Wonder where the BoE's note is...


Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:50 | 2583774 lostcause
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Why should we be suprised in a world where corruption is rewarded.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:30 | 2583993 HardlyZero
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The BIG that all this time the interest rates were suppressed by banks and everyone in the financial world.

Now, all interest rates will RISE.

How will all the existing DEBT be covered and re-financed with HIGH INTEREST RATES ?

Get your fixed mortgage NOW.

All BONDS and all DEBT interest rates are going up now.

This is a major tipping point in the banking and central banking.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:55 | 2583776 tony wilson
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paul tucker fallguy like diamond and agius.

looks ike he is gonna have to fall back on consultancy and lecture circuit ringing in a meesly 5 million a year.

tucker will be removed for a goldman head of the ponzi brit central bank

Paul Tucker leads race to succeed Sir Mervyn King as Governor of Bank of England

Read more:



what rothshied needs is an honest  goldman man running the rotten show.


or this goldman stooge mark carney

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:51 | 2583778 LULZBank
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The national debts, who are the owed to?

If your creditors are dead, then the debt goes away as well, no?

There must be a reason why Israel is armed to the teeth with more than enough nukes to blow up the world, twice over.

The Banksta's insurance policy that their debts will be paid?


Another source of crown income was represented by England's Jews. The Jews were the king's personal property, and he was free to tax them at will.[143] By 1280, the Jews had been exploited to a level at which they were no longer of much financial use to the crown, but they could still be used in political bargaining.[144] Their usury business – a practice forbidden to Christians – had made many people indebted to them and caused general popular resentment.[145] In 1275, Edward had issued the Statute of the Jewry, which outlawed usury and encouraged the Jews to take up other professions;[146] in 1279, in the context of a crack-down on coin-clippers, he arrested all the heads of Jewish households in England and had around 300 of them executed.[147] In 1280, he ordered all Jews to attend special sermons, preached by Dominican friars, with the hope of persuading them to convert, but these exhortations were not followed.[148] The final attack on the Jews in England came in the Edict of Expulsion in 1290, whereby Edward formally expelled all Jews from England.[149] This not only generated revenues through royal appropriation of Jewish loans and property, but it also gave Edward the political capital to negotiate a substantial lay subsidy in the 1290 Parliament.[150] The expulsion, which was not reversed until 1656,[151] followed a precedent set by other European territorial princes: Philip II of France had expelled all Jews from his own lands in 1182; John I, Duke of Brittany, drove them out of his duchy in 1239; and in the late 1240s Louis IX of France had expelled the Jews from the royal demesne before his first passage to the East.[152]

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:51 | 2583783 mberry8870
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We need to start naming names of regulators. We need to suspend soviergn immunity. They would be slightly less confident and impervious to their actions.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:56 | 2583803 CreativeDestructor
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Rally bitchez!!!

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:57 | 2583807 theprofromdover
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They never learn -No. 423

One of the leading contenders to replace Mr Bob Diamond at Barclays, is internal promotion candidate Mr Ritchie Ricci.

Could you make that up?

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:57 | 2583814 mark7
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So the Global Financial Soap Opera returns Home? (UK, USA)

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:10 | 2583856 LouisDega
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In other news, Andy Griffith had passed away. RIP

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:15 | 2583893 Temporalist
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Then he won't have to see the final collapse.  He was a reminder that there were still good people in the world.  RIP

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:13 | 2583877 midgetrannyporn
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Ah, just following orders. The old Nazi defense.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:34 | 2584008 HardlyZero
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Yes and No.

All the banks were probably suppressing interest the T-bills could be held at low the DEBT could be financed.


How will all the DEBT be financed now ?  with high interest rates ?

We are all Greece, and Spain, and Italy.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:14 | 2583883 Sandmann
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29 October 2008 telephone call from BoE to Barclays

31 October 2008 Barclays raises £7.3 bn from Qatar

06. November 2008  BoE cuts Base Rate to 3%


Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:40 | 2584046 SYantiss
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My crystal ball predicts a hotel maid in Tucker's future.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:40 | 2584047 Let The Wurlitz...
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It is becoming clear to me that the mass amounts of unsustainable debt is not going to be the only driver of a major securuties crash.  Another main driver will be an inherrent distrust of the capitol markets as a whole.  In general I am a sceptical person but the continued market minipulation is reaching a fevered pitch.  This will not end well.  Thank you central planners.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:46 | 2584076 Seize Mars
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Mervyn King & Lord Turner: Vogons!

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 16:16 | 2585081 HardlyZero
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Unwinding suppression.

They probably won't re-fill any positions...and in the end...will have 'no management'...and will require a govt. style takeover/supervision/refinance....a la Ireland or some other bankster deal.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:50 | 2584097 uranian
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very entertaining to see how much publicity barclays are enjoying on facebook at the moment :)

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 11:56 | 2584114 jal
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What kind of fairy land have most of the commentators been living.

THEY made the LAW.

No laws have been broken.


This is the way to stabilize the financial system.

The fact that you are finally learning about how the system work is what you should be investigating.

Why are the wolves turning upon each other?


Tue, 07/03/2012 - 12:59 | 2584355 mberry8870
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From the CFTC Order page 23: "At this time, a senior Barclays Treasury manager informed BBA in a telephone call that it had not been reporting accurately, although he noted that Barclays was not the worst offender of the panel bank members. "We're clean, but we're dirty-clean, rather than clean-clean." The BBA representative responded, "no one's clean-clean." The senior Barclays Treasury manager replied "no, because of the very fact of what happened to us ... We were clean ... the market ... reacted accordingly. And that's why we stepped away again." The senior Barclays Treasury manager was referencing the market speculation about Bat'clays' high LIBOR submission in early fall 2007. The BBA representative indicated that he understood what happened to any body that moved against the trend of lower submissions. The same senior Barclays Treasury manager had a similar conversation with the FSA during a surveillance call regarding market liquidity conditions."

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 13:00 | 2584362 Gadfly
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I'm shocked, shocked to find out interest rate manipulation is going on here.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 13:00 | 2584364 Arkadaba
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Hmmm ... from the Telegraph's live coverage:

16.12 Barclays says it had 13 "principal documented contacts" with FSA on Libor submissions in 2007/2008, 12 with NY Fed and two with Bank of England.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 13:52 | 2584513 TNTARG
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And that's all folks!

Nothing new under the sky.

I'm buying myself a bottle from Château Mouton Rothschild, just to stay tuned. Salute, banksters corporation: You've managed to put the whole Western's economic, political, social, military and finantial system under your control. And some other places too.  What a shitty Olympus, it stinks worlwide.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 14:12 | 2584673 Grand Supercycle
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Rally Warning Confirmed...

As mentioned earlier, further equity strength and USDX weakness expected this year according to my analysis.

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