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Bank of Korea Increases Gold Reserves by Massive Nearly $1 Billion or 39% in November Alone

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Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:24 | 1937911 CPL
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Only country so far to dump all of their TBills before all this nonsense started.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:31 | 1937919 Pladizow
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How do we short Roubini?

Twitter that bitch!

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:38 | 1937983 MFL8240
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He is a complete idiot and the fact that his guess on the odviuos houing mess came true, nothing else he has said has been right.  Listen to Jim Rogers and Jim Willie, they both get it.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 10:07 | 1938137 mrgneiss
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Great Jim Puplava interview with Ann Barnhardt, she says some mind-blowing stuff about Jon Corzine, regulators, CME, the US etc, but nothing anyone here will be too surprised about; I hope she watches her back.


Fri, 12/02/2011 - 10:15 | 1938179 grey7beard
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>> interview with Ann Barnhardt,

Anyone who frames this in a partisan viewpoint loses all credibility with me.  You've got two crime families in bed with each other and laying the blame on partisan lines is idiotic.  If one can be blind to the corruption in one party, how clear could their vision be?



Fri, 12/02/2011 - 10:39 | 1938291 mrgneiss
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I agree that in terms of crony capitalism and the oligarchy, the left/right paradigm is a false dichotomy as most here realize - but looking at the MF Global situation specifically - Corzine is buddies with Obama - Obama has appointed the regulators or left them in place - and the regulators have failed their duty with regard to MF Global in a big way.

So in general I agree with your comments, but when it comes to MF Global, Obama and his administration have failed the people miserably - it's a rather inescapable conclusion.

Also, I don't believe Ann mentioned much about parties if anything - she just talks about people and organizations like the CME who have failed us.

I really think you do a disservice to the interview by bringing this up, no one listening to this can come away with the impression this interview had much if anything to do with partisan politics.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 11:01 | 1938385 grey7beard
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I can't argue with your take.  My comment had to do with her dramatic exit from the business.  I might be a tad sensetive to partisan hackery.  Such is life.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 11:36 | 1938561 dark pools of soros
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The dems get their turn then the repubs get theirs again.. Corzine will be pardoned regardless whatever sentence he gets

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:27 | 1937924 AngryGerman
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Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:25 | 1937916 vegas
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OMG!! The Dukes are in Korea. Go get 'em Randolph & Mortimer.



Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:26 | 1937921 midtowng
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Until about a year ago the BoK was talking trash about how they would never buy gold.

Talk about late to the party.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 10:11 | 1938154 Smiddywesson
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Yes.  I believe the switch back to gold was cooked up by the Fed and the ECB, along with a few other core countries they see as necessary to their future trade.  As time went on, they have brought more central banks into the conspiracy.  That has left a lot of other countries like S Korea and Mexico to step up purchases and try to catch up.  The exclusion of S Korea comes as a real surprise to me, but that probably reflects that China was in on the game early and demanded that S Korea, a regional rival, be left out until it was too late to acquire cheap gold.

Another interesting point:

No details were given as to from where the sizeable tonnage of gold was bought in November – whether it be inter central bank or from refiners or bullion banks. Nor was information forthcoming as to whether the Bank of Korea is storing their gold reserves in the central bank in Seoul.

The secrecy as to where they purchase their gold is a common theme among central bankers.  You'd think, if the purchases were an innocent rebalancing of their reserves, that where they bought it was irrelevant and not at all sensitive, but they all refuse to reveal their sources.  That tells me that the source would reveal: a) That they are buying a lot more than they are telling us, and b) That the source of the gold would blow everyone's mind if it were known.

I've said on this site many times that the gold in NY and Ft. Knox must have been replaced by now because the people who control it have had the time and the printing press to do so.  Maybe it was never taken and never needed to be replaced.  Maybe the reason there have been no audits for so long is because there is MORE GOLD THAN IS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE and the gold Korea just bought came from the Fed, not the producers or the market. 

The dollar has been in trouble since the late 1960s.  The Fed has had almost 50 years to stack enough gold to provide at least some gold reserves to every major central bank in the world.  Knowing the dollar would some day fail, and pressure would be put on gold prices as central banks moved to stack adequate gold reserves, maybe the Fed put away enough gold to keep it king of the hill when the eventual crash occurred.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:27 | 1937926 GeneMarchbanks
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South Korea being visited by jackals.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:31 | 1937930 PaperBear
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KABOOM, another shot is fired in the currency war.

This currency war isn’t going to kind to the lovers of paper.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:53 | 1938054 scatterbrains
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I agree and these incremental purchases of gold by sovereigns suggests to me that a slow steady pace of purchases will continue over many years (generations) as even if the CB's pull off a soft landing it is now apparent to all that the fiat game is a rigged ponzi.. everyone is now slowly backing up into their corners from it.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 10:22 | 1938215 Smiddywesson
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I agree and these incremental purchases of gold by sovereigns suggests to me that a slow steady pace of purchases will continue over many years (generations) as even if the CB's pull off a soft landing

My worst nightmare is they drag this out for years, however we see signs of an acceleration into the collapse.  Derivatives and leverage got us into this mess, and the total global derivatives leaped up 15% to $707trillion in the last 6 months.  Russia, and now China, are threatening war over Iran, which is another way of saying Iran has WWIII in its competent hands.  Everyone is worried we or Israel will do a false flag.  Has anyone considered that Iran might attack itself?  Europe just received a bail out that didn't work, cannot work, and failed bond sales are the new normal. 

I can't see this ending with a soft landing.  TPTB are using everything they have to avoid a collapse, and still the world is reeling.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 13:44 | 1939177 MJ
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"Has anyone considered that Iran might attack itself?"

To start a war it can't win?  It's foolish.  Iran wants a nuke so it can sit at the big boys table and not be invaded on a whim.  The question to ask would be does China and Russia really want Iran to have a nuke?  When you are part of the big boys club you usually don’t want other people to join you.  Likewise ‘support’ for Iran can only be a politically covenant position for that moment, and not actually a goal.

And there's already been one US 'false flag' trying to blame Iran.  That Texas car dealer trying to blow up consulates in Wash D.C.

If NATO decides to go in, China and Russia won't do anything in a military sense.  It's not worth their effort to fight for Iran, but it will make them move in a different way, counter in some way.  If they abstain from the UN Sec Council vote then it should be obvious they've also negotiated some gain with NATO, and, at the same time, didn't also want to deal with a nuclear Iran.

But I doubt that there will be a vote for action via the Security Council.  Russia and China should have learned its lesson on abstaining with Libya.  For there to be kinetic action against Iran it will either be NATO justifying going around the Sec Council, or it will be Israel acting in its 'defense' with NATO then coming in and providing support.


Fri, 12/02/2011 - 11:16 | 1938464 bernorange
Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:29 | 1937932 fonzanoon
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I know there is a lot of talk regarding gold confiscation and what happened with FDR. I was thinking. For people who own physical and think it could happen again...I think  it would be easier if they just nationalized Ishares etc. gold. It just seems to be a more profitable and easier route than possibly eating a shotgun slug trying to pry some guy's 2 eagles away from him at 2am.....just a thought.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:32 | 1937945 Pladizow
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They can only nationalize what they know you have!

If you buy with cash?

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:33 | 1937947 MFL8240
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Zurich, Singapore, Frankfurt, Hong Kong, get your Gold out of here, this goverment is out of control.

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 12:27 | 1941503 Red Raspberry
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It needs to be in your possession.  Any where else is suspect. 


Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:49 | 1938055 kralizec
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I could see them going for the low hanging fruit first, as far as physical holdings, they could raid the big fish, us little fish would be harder to get from a manpower point of view, but hide your stash regardless!

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 10:33 | 1938270 Smiddywesson
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Agreed.  Anything is possible, and them going after the big fish is even probable, but I can't agree with a generalized confiscation.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 10:52 | 1938257 Smiddywesson
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They didn't spend three years and trillions of dollars kicking the can to resort to openly stealing from you.  They could have done so in 2007.  TPTB prefer to steal on the sly through taxation, which the rich can easily avoid, not so with confiscation.  Also, this time around, there is no gold federal coinage to retreive, and regional banks don't have any gold, so there is no motivation for confiscation.  Kicking the can allows central banks and the people in China and India to buy gold.  When those three groups have enough, they can stop kicking the can and your and my paultry stack won't matter any more, what will matter is the populations of the West will be broke, and the living standards of West and East will be close enough to parity to establish a more balanced trading system. 

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:29 | 1937933 youngman
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Smart move.....they are not the only ones either...Colombia is too....these up and comers are seeing the light...the paper money that TPTB keep printing and printing and printing..is not where to stick it....sit on the sidelines and see in 5 years who comes out the winner...Gold will be the Coach whoever the player is..

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:30 | 1937934 MFL8240
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Not money ask Bernanke, they are fools should buy USD or Treasuries. lol!

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:44 | 1938029 Platinum_Investor
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Congrats to Korea!

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:49 | 1938048 PaperBear
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Euro Central Banks May Provide $270B Through IMF to Fight Debt Crisis


More debt to ‘fight’ the debt crisis ?

Privatising profits and socialising losses ? The generations not yet born will say thank you when they come into this world and are already on the hook for their share of all this debt.

A new ‘crisis-containment’ tool ? How about the tried and tested tool of old, BANKRUPTCY ? I could not read any more of this rubbish.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 10:35 | 1938279 Smiddywesson
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The IMF is a black hole, sucking up the whole world.  DSK wasn't on board, he just wanted to get laid and run for president, so they ditched him for someone with real ambition and who could take orders.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:51 | 1938062 Long-John-Silver
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GOLD Bitchez! Just because no one else said it.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:52 | 1938074 chaartist
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what a surprise, smaller the country bigger the effort to go into gold

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:58 | 1938105 Minoan
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During the 1997 crisis,the won lost 1/3 of its value against the dollar.Since then they buy dollars and now gold.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:53 | 1938079 Parisnights
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We were frtunate to have our silve coins rung up as Knives.  Now th feds will think we are knife collectors instead of coin and bullion collectors.. Silver bitchez!


Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:57 | 1938101 Clint Liquor
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BOK bought 15 tonnes? Now you know why Gold took a big hit in November, it was buying that caused it. (sarc)

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 10:06 | 1938133 youngman
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Suprises me too....all these people and entities buying...but the price is flat more or less....has me baffled...

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 10:47 | 1938313 Smiddywesson
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LOL, too funny.

Riddle me this, when is a better time to buy straw hats, in December or July?  The Fed knows this, and the Fed or the IMF are the only entities big enough to buy up enough gold in the past to satisfy today's demand.  That's why they won't reveal the most inocuous fact about these purchases, that the gold is coming from the NY Fed and Ft. Knox in a decade long plan to lay away tradition for a rainy day.  They stopped those audits for a reason, and the reason wasn't because there was no gold left.  The reason was there was enough gold stockpiled to kickstart the world's next monetary system, provided of course that you sign on to leaving the Fed on top.

Prices are muted because of manipulation in the gold and silver markets, but they are also muted because the gold central banks are buying came out of the market years ago.  That's why, with virtually unlimited ability to suppress gold prices, the price of gold was allowed to rise over the last decade.  The Fed was the buyer.  Gold isn't parabolic now because rules of supply and demand don't work if the two exist in different time frames.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 10:09 | 1938142 Fred123
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So with all this 'massive' gold buying by all central banks, why is the price still below its high by a couple of hundred bucks?

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 10:27 | 1938242 americanspirit
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It would be nice to know if private citizens in South Korea are permitted to own gold and silver and if so, how much are they buying? Since gold in private hands can, at any point, become gold in the government's hands, the real tonnage "owned" by South Korea (and plenty of other countries) is the actual National Gold Reserves figure.

I mean, does anyone believe that all that gold that Chinese citizens are now being 'allowed' to buy is going to stay in their hands for an indefinite time? Allowing your citizens to own gold is just a cheap back-door way for increasing National Reserves when the time comes. That's what the secret police and military are for, isn't it?

You have been warned, and not just once. Leave no trail, keep your mouth shut, and bury it deep and shielded.

"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you're not being followed." H. L. Mencken

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 10:50 | 1938331 Smiddywesson
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shielded?  Details please.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 11:33 | 1938545 prole
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Are private South Korean citizens allowed to own the precious? YES.

Do they own boatloads of it like Chinese and Indians? YES.  (OK slight exaggeration) But they have had relatively recent wars and occupations (ongoing lol) and they get the concept that paper currencies are a scam. They also can closely observe Orwellian North Korea with official currency devaluations every 10 to 20 years. (on top of that economy and currency being a joke in the first place)

Do ZHers know that Korea had its own 1933 moment in 1997 Asian financial crisis when the government called in the people's gold, for reasons which are too complicated for me to understand, but evidently to save the economy of SK?

It basically only applied to the rich, and if and how much you surrendered was voluntary, but it worked and perhaps due to Korean patriotism/solidarity, people lined up and turned in the precious, the won and the economy of SK was evidently saved. Or .gov insiders private vaults were enriched who knows?

Fascinating event and deserves to be studied by someone more qualified than poor me. (every Korean knows about it and you can ask your Korean friends about the event)


Fri, 12/02/2011 - 11:35 | 1938553 Watson
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I recall that when Korea had some problems in the 1990's the citizens queued up to *give* their gold to the Government to help the situation.

Yes, I thought it pretty strange too, but the reports did look convincing.

If true, it showed a degree of social cohesion difficult to imagine in the West.

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 11:07 | 1938423 Bansters-in-my-...
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So this explains why the price of gold is dropping.

You know,the supply and demand thing...../Sarc

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 11:37 | 1938564 WhiteNight123129
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Well soon enought Equity Portfolio Manager will compare themselves with other funds excluding the gain that the other fund made in Gold. So if Special situation guys are "Fed up" and they went in Gold, their performance will be measured excluding the gain in Gold holding, because it is passive, it does not require analysis or it is somewhat "cheating"...

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