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Barofsky On Geithner: "We Should See People In Handcuffs"

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There is no point in recapping the ongoing vendetta between former SIGTARP Neil Barofsky and former head of the NY Fed, and current Treasury secretary and resident TurboTax expert Tim Geithner. One need but follow the former on Twitter for a quick and concise sampling of the sentiments harbored vis-a-vis the latter. However, in the following interview Barfosky does touch on some points which in the context of the recent Liborgate, should be brought front and center, especially since the increasingly apathetic US audience seems to not care about one bit (as opposed to their distant cousins across the Atlantic for whom Lieborgate has become a daily distraction). Namely, what Barofsky says is that Geithner and other regulators who allowed Lieborgate to proceed should not only lose their job but we should "see [Geithner] in handcuffs."  Sadly that will never happen as it would actually be a deterrent to future crime among the highest echelons of America: something which is just not allowed to happen in a system whose very survival is increasingly reliant on rampant criminality.

To wit:

While Geithner pushed for broader reforms of LIBOR, he did not explicitly warn of possible rate manipulations and neglected to notify U.S. regulators at the Department of Justice, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and Securities and Exchange Commission to the wrongdoing, notes Barofsky.


It was a "message to the banks 'if we commit fraud, we break the rules, don't worry, we're too big — they'll never bring the appropriate steps against us,'" Barofsky says in an interview with The Daily Ticker. "And that is why we've had scandal after scandal after scandal."


This was a "global conspiracy to fix one of the most important interest rates in the world," Barofsky continues. "[Geithner] heard this information and looked the other way. Geithner and other regulators should be held accountable, they should be fired across the board. If they knew about an ongoing fraud, and they didn't do anything about it, they don't deserve to have their jobs. I hope we see people in handcuffs."

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h/t TK


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Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:18 | 2653917 Silver Bug
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Until a stream of high up banksters go to prison. The Pillaging will continue. At the moment it is profitable, why would they stop?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:24 | 2653941 TheCanadianAustrian
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I think a stream of bankster blood exiting their skulls might also be effective.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:26 | 2653948 Precious
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Turbo Tim -- may it haunt him forever.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:35 | 2653975 ElvisDog
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Yeah, right. In the real world, Timmy will retire from Government work into a cushy job at GS, JPM, Citi, or one of the other investment banks. He will live a life of luxury and die comfortably at a ripe old age. He will regret nothing.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:42 | 2653998 Pladizow
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There will be NO accountability, only collapse!

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:01 | 2654023 ndotken
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accountability??? ... hahahahahahaha ... you people crack me up ...

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:02 | 2654044 Michael
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The communist socialists are coming out of the woodwork to strip us of our guns. Lets just get this strait right now. The 2nd amendment is specifically written so American citizens can kill government employees who get violent on us. To defend ourselves and our families against the 450 million hollow point bullets the government employees just purchased to use on American citizens. Even government drone attacks on civilians can't get US citizens to disarm ourselves. First, guns are for killing federal government employees and other government employees who turn violent on Americans, period.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:14 | 2654069 economics9698
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Tony Montana: I kill a communist for fun, but for a green card, I gonna carve him up real nice. 

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:34 | 2654488 AldousHuxley
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Handcuffs are for petty thieves.


Executions are for traitors.


Also make sure they lose all personal wealth derived from corruption.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 02:28 | 2655634 zhandax
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Bulls-eye!  You want this shit to stop, take their money.  That's the only thing these cocksuckers understand.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:27 | 2654133 Missiondweller
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Not sure I'd be posting those types of thoughts even if its meant to express the sentiment that the government should be afraid of the people and not the other way around.


Hope you're posting from a library or you may get a visit from Big Sis (DHS)

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:48 | 2654229 Michael
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Not worried, just stating the facts.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:08 | 2654306 Real Estate Geek
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Then you're going to love the latest gem from the little fascist running NYC.  He wants police to go on strike as a way to blackmail the public into relinquishing the remnants of The Second Amendment.  Of course, that wouldn't apply to his own security detail; just the cops supposedly protecting and serving the hoi polloi--who are paying their fucking salaries and pensions!

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:46 | 2654569 AldousHuxley
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religious salesmen always brainwashing masses into submission with imaginary carrots (aka. heaven after you are dead)


If that doesn't work then, there's the police and military to protect assets of the rich first with sticks (beat the shit out of the masses into submission)


productive workers are just above the untouchables. Most people forget that.


King (the owner)

Advisors (the braines)

Religious, political, intellectual Elites (the good cop)

Police, Military (the bad cop)

Special workers

Not so special workers

Disabled, disenfranchised, young and old


Thu, 07/26/2012 - 18:21 | 2654850 azzhatter
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Such a little faggot this Bloomberg is. Somebody should take away his right to oxygen

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 17:08 | 2654661 stormsailor
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the 450 million hollow points was just .40 caliber.  there were 300 million 9 mm hollow points ordered as well.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:22 | 2654103 Benjamin Glutton
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Video of HARRY REID DEMANDING audit of Federal Reserve. Now he says no floor vote? what a POS.!


Harry Reid said today that Ron Paul's Audit the Fed bill will not be brought up for a vote in the Senate. Remind him of these words(C-SPAN-1/23/1995). Let him know we see his two faces. Phone: 202-224-3542 / Fax: 202-224-7327

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 17:23 | 2654707 Daily Bail
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BAROFSKY BOOK EXCERPT - Geithner's Temper And Transparency Exposed: "No One Has Ever Made The Banks Disclose The Type Of Shit That I Made Them Disclose..."


"Neil, I have been the most fucking transparent secretary of the Treasury in this country's entire fucking history!"  Geithner erupted, in an episode that had Barofsky wondering if Geithner was going to "throttle" him

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:12 | 2654064 azzhatter
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cause and effect

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:02 | 2654296 BeetleBailey
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The new sport is going after banksters - for sport.

These cunts will get theirs in time.

Geithner's a cunt - just like his douchebag boss, Barry O'Blamercuntasaurus

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:30 | 2654462 smlbizman
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timmy will just reach out into the ring and make the tag to lloyd....

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:30 | 2654141 eatthebanksters
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You guys don't get it, Tim Geithner is brilliant!  He knows better than anyone what's good for America!  He even knows better than Obama, that's why he didn't break up Citicorp when Obama ordered him to make an example out of that beig corrupt institution. God only knows why Obama didn't fire him...maybe he doesn't have anyone else who will do the angry dragon.  


This whole administration is filled with self impressed theorists who walk around patting each other on the back telling each other how smart and how great they are and how he public just does not understand them, but how they knowwhat's best for everyone. In fact, these fuckers are utterly absent any moral compass or principals and corruption is not a word in their vocabulary.  This shit will end when they have no more tools in their box to manipulate things...that day isl coming sooner than later.  God help these poor bastards when the masses find out there are no jobs to be had, food prices are through the roof, welfare checks are stopped, their pensions are gone and healthcare has become too expensive for all but the most wealthy.  I'll be in the sticks watching from afar...

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:35 | 2654165 RobD
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angry dragon

Man you made my day. Had to look that one up, still laughing.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:55 | 2654610 geewhiz190
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i urge everyone to read "Bailout"  It confirms much of what's talked about on ZH.  I found it riveting and infuriating. Something has to change.  Barofsky should know better than anyone just how f-- up everything is, especially at Treasury.  What a freaking disgrace.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:20 | 2653923 HelluvaEngineer
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Thanks for the chuckle.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:20 | 2653925 penexpers
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Fuck you, Tim Geithner, and all you other corporatist banking parasites.


Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:33 | 2653970 Carl Spackler
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What about his boss, Barack Obama?

That is the one telling Geithner what to do in exchange for campaign donations from the criminal banking types.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:57 | 2654035 Dr. Richard Head
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Obama - "AK-47's belong in the hands of soldiers."

Holder - "And Mexican Drug cartels."

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:04 | 2654048 NotApplicable
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Why bother with the redundancy?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:31 | 2654152 Missiondweller
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Good god, no kidding. The UN wants to take our guns away as our government gives guns to Cartel members on the US /Mexico border.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:47 | 2654009 TPTB_r_TBTF
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Obama tells Timmy what to do?!  LOL, ... you have no idea how the system works!

It works more along the lines of:

both Obama and Timmy ask Wall Street for "advice".

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:55 | 2654032 Tirpitz
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No need to ask. The daily marching orders are handed to them before breakfast.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:57 | 2654037 WonderDawg
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Wrong again. Obama and Geithner obey the orders they're given by the banking cartel. They're frontmen, puppets, nothing more. They take orders. They do not influence monetary policy, they just front for it.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:08 | 2654056 NotApplicable
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How can you state someone is wrong, then restate their entire argument as proof?

Hint: there are quotes around the word "advice."

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:30 | 2654142 WonderDawg
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Perhaps I misunderstood his post. He seemed to be saying that they colluded. I corrected it by saying they don't have the authority to collude because they wield no influence, rather they just do what they're told. My apologies if this is what the poster meant.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:39 | 2654175 TPTB_r_TBTF
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no offense taken.  The original post is not well worded.

When i reread my original post, it sounds almost like "DC hiring consultants from NYC..."

That is certainly NOT what i meant to portray!

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:12 | 2654066 TPTB_r_TBTF
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to be even more specific,

TPTB give these orders through their banking cartel to numerous govt puppets and henchmen.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:15 | 2654074 TPTB_r_TBTF
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ooops, forgot the part

... "before breakfast."

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:30 | 2654148 WonderDawg
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Right. Sorry if I misunderstood your post. You are correct.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 18:26 | 2654860 sgt_doom
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Well spoken, W-dawg, well, spoken!

My favorite references:

Battling Wall Street:  The Kennedy presidency, by Donald Gibson

Thy Will Be Done, by Gerard Colby with Charlotte Dennett

John Kenneth Galbraith, by Richard Parker

Reading those three should enlighten everyone about both the how and why of the turn America took after the assassinations of the 1960s (JFK, MLK, RFK, etc.).

The culprits are first and foremost, the Rockefeller family --- and that's not just David (and the deceased Nelson), but all of that family.

If people don't or can't understand what's really going on --- namely their Standard Oil and AT&T were only broken up on paper, not ever actually financially divested, simply read the following government reports:

The Pujo Committee's report on the Money Trust

The TNEC study, published 1941 (Temporary National Economy Committee)

Cartels and National Security, Report No. 4, 1944 (Senate Subcommittee on War Mobilization)

Patman Report (from Wright Patman's committee) 1968

Structure of Corporate Concentration, US Senate, 1980

Then you'll grasp why that Forbes listing of the richest in America is pure bunkem!

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:24 | 2654120 ChacoFunFact
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Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:21 | 2653931 partimer1
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THAT'S REALLY TRUE AND LACKING SO FAR.  If we put a big stick in Jon "superman" Corzine's ass today, and people will stop messing with the law, and behave like real human being.   

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:35 | 2653981 madcows
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S&L was only 30 years ago.  Many went to jail.  And, here were are a generation later, watching more corruption, more scandal, more theft.  You can punish all you want.  It won't change a thing.  The only way to limit the crime is to put severe regulation in place.   Divide the casinos from the banks.  Limit the leverage taking.  You'll still have Corzine's, but maybe avoid the Lehmans.


Or, you could shoot a few of them.  they can't steal from you if they're dead.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:10 | 2654059 NotApplicable
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If you think regulation by a criminal syndicate is going to accomplish anything, well, I've got some bad news for you...

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:27 | 2654134 madcows
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Feel free to start the shooting, then.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:20 | 2654100 WillyGroper
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a good start would be enforcing the regulation in place. what a joke!

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:27 | 2654448 Real Estate Geek
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That's crazy talk!  Next you're going to propose that they enforce existing gun control laws rather than pass new ones.


Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:36 | 2653982 krispkritter
Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:56 | 2654034 EscapeKey
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Marketwatch are too busy showing off their l33t coding skillz to do any actual reporting:


Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:32 | 2654464 Real Estate Geek
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If we put a big stick in Jon "superman" Corzine's ass . . .

And here's the perfect person to do just that:


Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:26 | 2653932 ebworthen
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"...a system whose very survival is increasingly reliant on rampant criminality."

Precisely, exactly, absolutely, positively, undeniably, irrefutably, verify-ably, TRUE.

Enforcement of the Rule of Law and Wall Street; two cousins who shall never meet.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:38 | 2653988 Too Big 2
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To say "two cousins who shall never meet" is to say that our entire system (financial and everything else) will forever be run by what are effectively "mobsters".  Everything that gets too skewed in one direction or another always reverts back to the mean so let's hope that your statement prooves to be wrong and that honest leaders will rise up and enforce the rule of law.     

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:26 | 2653938 Dr. Engali
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Timmah belongs in handcuffs. How in the hell can they talk about manipulating Liebor without talkng about the Bernank manipulating interest rates? He is the one who belongs in hancuffs, leading the rest of the evil scum to prison.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:41 | 2654187 Galt57
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Corzine goes free because the MFG clients are getting their money back.  You see, if you break the law and and are unfortunate enough to get caught, then you just pay back the stolen goods, and you don't get prosecuted.  See how it works?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:25 | 2653943 Seorse Gorog fr...
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Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:26 | 2653945 dow2000
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Paterno looked the other way, at least justice is being served over at Penn State. 

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:01 | 2654042 55 men
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True, but there may even be a bigger cover up, which is why they are coming down so hard on the school itself. To me this stinks like the franklin cover up. Just a thought....

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:16 | 2654084 azzhatter
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dead men don't talk. they think it can end there

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:44 | 2654208 madcows
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That would only be a good analogy if Paterno did the shower crimes, too.  Remember, TaxCheatTimmy worked for Goldman Sux before being Treasurer. 

Not to be forgotten, Judas was Jesus' treasurer. 

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:26 | 2653946 Cheater5
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This kind of strikes me as what Joe Paterno did or didn't do at Penn State......

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:27 | 2653953 irie1029
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I love the humor of this blog... I really hope people wake up and understand the screwing they are getting.  If the fed does get audited and things continue to unfold there may be change and less apathy and god forbid accountability.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:29 | 2653956 VonSalza
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Free Tim Geithner

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:11 | 2654062 ghengis86
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How do I get my free piece of Turbo Tim? Are they divvying him up at the local Whole Foods?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:18 | 2654091 azzhatter
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I've always dreamed of catching Timmy stealing in my garage and beating him to a bloody pulp with a rusty shovel

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:30 | 2653957 q99x2
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Now you're talkin. Arrest them. Put them in handcuffs. Someone call the police. 

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:30 | 2653959 solgundy
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 Barofsky was nominated for the job of overseeing the TARP by President George W. Bush on November 14, 2008.....the blame Bush crowd roars....






Barofsky is a life-long Democrat who donated money to the Obama campaign,...... ooops

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:12 | 2654065 NotApplicable
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Question is, just which job is he bucking for next year? Geithner's perhaps?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:22 | 2654109 solgundy
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I don't care what job he's bucking for's obvious, the man has character and honesty

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 17:55 | 2654797 Overfed
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I don't care if the guy's motives are completely ulterior, so long as he brings down some big fish to the frying pan.

Geithnere, Bernanke, O'bomb-a, Holder, et. al. deserve to be tossed into a cage with a couple of pissed off chimpanzees.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:32 | 2653963 Hype Alert
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That was quick!


"And that is why we've had scandal after scandal after scandal."  We're not even getting token people put in jail.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:38 | 2653987 madcows
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Nope.  In bizarro world, they just get promoted or golden parachuted.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:31 | 2653965 Carpathia
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I've just read Barofsky's new book "Bailout".  Well written and captivating.  Sort of like watching the Watergate hearings and learning the ins and outs of money laundering from Tony Ulasewicz.  Years from now Neil Barofsky will be a "Profile in Courage".

He's been the most F***ing transparent Secretary of the Treasury ever;-)

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:32 | 2653966 JR
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It’s encouraging that political crime is getting much more attention and with naming names and their connections there’s a wider understanding of what’s happened to representative government. But it’s important not to judge what will happen to our highly placed criminals in the future…using the traditions of the shadow government of the past.

New and wider revelations to the American people will present new conditions and dangers to the public officials who have abused their trust for wealth and power.

The efforts and sacrifices of the Ron Pauls and Tyler Durdens have not been in vain

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:16 | 2654083 NotApplicable
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Encouraging, except for the fact that it's ALL BS.

This is nothing but election-year facade maintenance, designed to provide the sheeple of all stripes with an appropriate rallying point for the upcoming


Anyone who thinks differently needs to step the fuck away from the Kool-Aid dispenser and sober up, QUICK!

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 17:39 | 2654764 JR
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When information is flooding out on who the crooks are and what they are doing, election year or not, it’s really hard for me, and I think many Americans, to go to sleep after seeing it.

There’s no argument that the two-party system is super rotten and totally captured by the cartel. But a choice between war mongers and banker puppets like Obama and Romney is a signal that this boil has reached maturity and if it doesn’t break will be lanced by the people.

A massive cheating blockade had to be used to stop Ron Paul in the primaries, which is not to say the political system is business as usual but rather the political system is nearing it’s breaking point. Fair elections would have produced a President Ron Paul.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:41 | 2653968 brace_brace_brace
Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:35 | 2653974 Sofa King
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He's not going anywhere in handcuffs. His "Whatever-it-takes" mandate from Paulson and the banks came with full indemnity and promise of the Treasury Secretary position.  The only way you can explain how somebody so unpolished and completely unqualified has the job.  I bet that dude has more dirt on financial executives than J. Edgar Hoover ever had on Heads of State.  How else do you explain anybody sitting across the table from that smug lucky the leprechaun looking prick and not lunge at his jugular with a Bic pen.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:35 | 2653979 foxenburg
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Barofsky seems to have a point. He also sounds a little shrill. Is he a family man?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:38 | 2653986 YesWeKahn
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put him inthe same cell as Bernank, they will talk about printing for their rest of lives

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:08 | 2654055 alien-IQ
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No, don't put them in a cell together. Put them in with the general population at Rahway so they can be treated like the bitches they are.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:42 | 2653989 Everybodys All ...
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Don't expect Eric Holder to do anything. Obama chose this guy for a reason and now you know why.


--edited-- ... I see it's been already posted.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:41 | 2653994 alarm bell
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Off topic but if you think the Penn State cover up was all for a small time assistant coach you have been duped.  Wake the fuck up!

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:20 | 2654096 NotApplicable
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I noted not a single donor was named in the report *wink, wink, nudge, nudge* "ya know what I mean?'

Most people I talk to know little to nothing about Second Mile, or its connections to the football program.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:38 | 2654172 alarm bell
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Thank you for not giving me a blank stare.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:41 | 2653996 lindaamick
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Scandals day in and day out with NO consequences to the perpetrators.

My personal response is becoming "why should I be the only honest person in this fraud factory?"

I've already been cheated out of a big percentage of my life's savings and have lot all home equity built up over my lifetime.

It is very demoralizing.  It might be better to go to jail than to pay anymore taxes to support this fraud factory.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:42 | 2653997 JustObserving
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Our top regulators look away from fraud - must be a lifetime of experience.

Ben Bernanke on Libor manipulaton - "It's not my job." 

That there is no outrage shows how corrupt our system has become - corruption is now a way of life in the USA.


Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:22 | 2654113 NotApplicable
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"Our regulators?"

I think I see the problem with your "way of life." It relies upon fiction.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:44 | 2654000 mayhem_korner
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I'd go for a cage match.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:51 | 2654005 jomama
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yeah, right, 'handcuffs' just like Jerry del Missier's golden parachute. not holding my breath.

most average people don't have a fucking clue, or if they do, they feel defeated in terms of what they can do about it.  just witnessing people's confusion at four way stop signs is downright depressing.

back to chasing to that carrot on a stick (FICO score) for the useful idiots until the house of cards comes crashing down!

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:45 | 2654006 Everybodys All ...
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With regulation of markets this corrupt there is no way the economy can flourish. Part of the allure of capital to this country for years has been the adherance to the rule of law by our governement and the anticiapated regulators enforcement of rules and regulation on the markets. Both are sadly missing. Until this changes there will be no recovery.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:48 | 2654014 theprofromdover
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Tiny Tim has passed the point of no return.

The point at which he believes everything that comes out of his mouth is cute, smart, and unimpeachable.

-try "accessory after the fact" Timbo, and dig your hole a little deeper.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:51 | 2654018 miker
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"THEY" didn't move to stop it because it served their purposes during the crisis.  They directed LIBOR down to relieve stress.  After the crisis, they didn't give a shit.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:52 | 2654020 ddtuttle
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Actually, we should all be ashamed.  We KNEW he was a tax cheat, and yet he was accepted as Obama's treasury secretary.  Where was the outrage?

I retrospect, that he is a criminal seems to be a job requirement rather than any kind of impediment.


Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:53 | 2654024 cranky-old-geezer
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All the "hang 'em" type comments here are amusing. 

There won't be any perp walks, not even a wrist slap. The Wall Street banker crime syndicate owns the government.   

Anyone not seeing that is blind.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:13 | 2654356 BeetleBailey
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That may be true Geezer.....but this will blow up in their faces.

NOT ME..but someone is going to go postal on these bastards.

I predict.............

SOME disgruntled former GM bond holder/person who lost it all/someone who got their life ruined by these criminals is going to take action - and it won't be pretty.

If I were these fuckers - any of them - I'd start wearing Kevlar as standard issue........

Frustration/hopelessness is a motherfucker.....

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:20 | 2654408 OneTinSoldier66
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You may be stating fact. But you also seem to be stating that nothing can possibly change, although I don't know why.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 17:15 | 2654681 cranky-old-geezer
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Oh yes, things can change ...for the worse.

You agree a banker crime syndicate runs the government?  Ok, you're on the right track.

What's the next logical conclusion?  How bout stealing everything from everybody?  They control the financial system too.  Any assets in that financial system are there for the taking, like MFG and now PFG showed us.

It'll just get worse. More looting. 

All the while they loot our wealth right out of our pockets via currency printing and debasement.  Who gets those billions of printed dollars?  Wall Street banks ...along with the government keep them playing along.



Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:54 | 2654025 wherewasi
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They were probably using the Turbo-Interbank-Interest-Rate thingy and got all hosed up... maybe some blue screens and shit.  No biggie...

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:55 | 2654031 Nobody For President
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Okey Dokey ZHers - Everybody out there that believes they will see little Timmy in Handcuffs in their lifetime raise their hands.



How about Jon the Vaporizer?



Thought so.

Maybe Banzai will at least do another picture of what justice could be, but won't happen.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:59 | 2654041 Everybodys All ...
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This administration is making Nixon look like an amateur.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:03 | 2654040 Hannibal
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Neckshots usually do the trick.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:02 | 2654045 GrinandBearit
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These criminal banksters should all be tortured and put to death.  The banksters deliberately invent fancy names and terms for their schemes/crimes and the average sheeple cannot possibly comprehend any of them.  Add in all the MSM and tech toy distractions and the poor sheeple do not have a prayer.  

Just look at the markets today.  In the midst of all the scandal(s), it's green as far as the eye can see.  It's ludocrous.


Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:33 | 2654162 Dick Gazinia
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I like bankers.  I have real good recipe for them.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:03 | 2654046 citta vritti
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all this talk about handcuffs for various perps reminds me we need WB7 to do so more kinky S&M themed mashups - not that I like that stuff, but those are about the only handcuffs and chains these guys (a term that includes the feminine strain) will ever see - meanwhile maybe laughing and realizing how ridiculous these clowns are (if only the levels of theft weren't so big) may hasten our collective willingness to see them undone so things can move forward

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:04 | 2654047 Meesohaawnee
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One thing people must understand in this once great country. You need to rid the word "should". What "should" happen did in the June Cleaver era. We are now in the what "does" .. Quit thinking should. There should be people in handcuffs. The "market" should be free and not manipulated as a propaganda too,  but it wont happen. We live in a lawless third world country. Thats a fact.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:04 | 2654050 GlomarHabu
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It's US audience apathy compounded by ignorance

Collectively the IQ in the United States is 98. That number allows one to sit all day and hit the channel changer until the fatty is twisted and ready to be fired up.

Take a look ..then if you're brave enough look where our children place academically .... we're not getting a good ROI on education



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Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:45 | 2654560 Sparkey
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`OH` Sweet Jebus, please say it isn't so-- Not less than Poland!

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:14 | 2654071 PicassoInActions
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There are many comments here about people being asleep.

I don't think they are asleep, they jsut got too much to lose ( what ever that much is) commpare to other contries.

No middle class, not even welfare people will rise since what ever they have a still better than what other people have.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:16 | 2654085 cooperbry
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Some of us are paying attention.  I've lost hope that anyone will be arrested for the financial crisis, but, there are plenty of elected representatives, Fanie/Freddie executives that could be charged with crimes.  I'm still hopeful that Corzine will be charged, but, I doubt that will happen.


I agree we need to start to see people going to jail for financial crimes.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:22 | 2654108 azzhatter
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Angelo Mozilo and Jim Johnson are outright fucking criminals, as much as the thug on the street who steals your wallet and they are partying on. Tell me we have justice in this country

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:20 | 2654087 toomanyfakecons...
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Exactly my point. The MASS ARRESTS are coming. The madness will be coming to an end soon in the form of MASS ARRESTS of everyone from Obama and Brenanke on down, the virtual dissolution of the federal government, and the unleashing of countless formerly-suppressed, planet-saving, human race-saving technologies. Don't believe the fear-bot keyboard jockeys who dismiss what's coming. Get a grip, know your moments in history, and stopping kidding yourself that tens of millions of American patriots, gun owners, active-duty military, reservists, veterans, police, federal marshalls and so on, are somehow powerless and inconsequential. When they roar and the MASS ARRESTS occur, our illegitimate government, the FED, and the traitors will be sent to the FEMA camps they once day-dreamed about using on you and me.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:29 | 2654140 WillyGroper
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u on shrooms?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:36 | 2654167 toomanyfakecons...
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No... but it's gonna feel like that when Timmy, Benny, and the POTUS are perp-walked in front of the cameras in chains and orange jumpsuits. Like 99.9% of Americans, you and I will merely be spectators when this goes down.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 17:59 | 2654805 shovelhead
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Because I havea bb gun and I'm not afraid to use it.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:49 | 2654233 azzhatter
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One can hope

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 22:49 | 2655433 cranky-old-geezer
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First libertarian troll I've seen here.

Let's see, 95% of military are pro government (trained to follow orders regardless of their personal views), 95% of vets are pro government,  95% of LE are pro government, they all get a paycheck from the government, they're not gonna make any waves, and gun owners would never be able to organize well enough to pose any threat.

So just how are these "mass arrests" supposed to happen?

I won't call you a fool.  I'll let you prove you're a fool.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 00:16 | 2655541 toomanyfakecons...
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Spoken by a true shitbag who has never shouldered a rifle, taken any oath, or done shit for his country. Believe me... if 5% of the military and police were truly pro-government that would be an all time high.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 10:14 | 2656378 cranky-old-geezer
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if 5% of the military and police were truly pro-government that would be an all time high.

Sorry, I was wrong, you're not a fool.

Completely loony tunes insane is more like it.


Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:19 | 2654098 Jake88
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We have seen already that these guys are above the law.  If they weren't Jon and Timmy would be behind bars or arrested by now. May be if there was a public outcry something would be done. But we have a congress and a president that passed a law to allow the pres to imprison us wiithout due process. They have intimidated us into silence.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:23 | 2654115 azzhatter
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Over 50% of americans don't even know who Geithner is. This fucker should be plastered on posters all over America as a most wanted fuckstick criminal.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:25 | 2654126 azzhatter
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If we one candidate for senate, for congress who would campaign on arresting these ratfucks, threaten to prosecute everyone of them we might be able to get attention to the real problem

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:26 | 2654129 Bansters-in-my-...
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"should be in handcuffs"



I aint never seen someone hang in handcuffs before.

That would be Kool.


Fuck you Timmy,you little fucking Weasel.

Love to see you Hang around,literally.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:31 | 2654153 rsnoble
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You beat me to it. LOL.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:26 | 2654131 rsnoble
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Handcuffs? You mean just until the firing squad is done with them right?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:38 | 2654173 toomanyfakecons...
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Let's just hope the violence after the MASS ARRESTS occur will be minimal. People will be freaking out when they see Timmy, Benny, and the POTUS on CNN wearing chains and orange jumpsuits.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:39 | 2654177 loveyajimbo
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Bummer that Mitt does not come out with some balls and tell the people his first actions will be to go after the massive corruption in financial institutions and in DC.  Bummer because he may be one of them... I hope not, and I think BO is a puke.  Many in his cadre should be in chains.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:44 | 2654205 Lednbrass
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A few headlines and news stories at first followed by a media blackout on the subject, then some slaps on the wrists of the token offenders and an eventual return to nice offices and very healthy bank accounts for those who will be paraded around for the cameras.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:43 | 2654202 Jumbotron
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Don't be surprised to see this guy die by "mysterious" circumstances soon.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:56 | 2654271 thetruthseeker
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Unfortunately, at this point I am not sure handcuffs will do the trick.  We probably need to adopt the playbook of the Chinese when dealing with criminals that have robbed on this scale and magnitude.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:12 | 2654352 john in cheshire
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Maybe a stupid question but why is no one investigating the early years of our ruling criminal fraternity? What was Mr Geithner like as a child and adolescent? Are there any clues in his early years that could help us identify people such as him in the future, so that we can avoid them? This question, of course applies equally to our criminals here in the UK; Mr Blair, Mr Brown, Mr Balls and etc. It's as though these persons had no presence prior to their incumbency in a powerful position; just like psychopaths and serial killers, they must have exhibited signs of deviancy.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:19 | 2654404 Little John
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 "I do not pretend to understand the moral universe; the arc is a long one, my eye reaches but little ways; I cannot calculate the curve and complete the figure by the experience of sight; I can divine it by conscience. And from what I see I am sure it bends towards justice." -- Theodore Parker

Well we can only this applies to bankster/pols the way it did to slave holders. 

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:50 | 2654586 Snakeeyes
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Geithner and anyone associated with HAMP, HARP, etc should be investigated.

Look at commercial RE prices in US versus residential. Which one had gov't "support?"

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:59 | 2654623 Burticus
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As Gerald Celente said, there is no justice anymore, only criminal treatment for "just us."

Favored elite insiders rob trillions of FeRNs from billions of people for years and get a free pass or at worst pay the gubmint (not victims) a civil fine of .1% of their plunder.

Your average schmuck citizen who is even suspected of a minor infraction gets immediately assaulted, kidnapped and/or robbed (or murdered for resisting) by heavily-armed storm troopers in black body armor.

Welcome to the new 'murka, home of the slave.  Bushbama + Obamney = No Change.  Looks like our choices are limited to steel/lead/rope or voting with our feet.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 17:10 | 2654654 mendolover
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Nice dream if it could happen without waking up to one of those 'ah shit it was only a dream' mornings.  Back when I was a very naive Limbaugh listener, he always spouted on how smart the American people are.  I never believed it for a second.  Since I'm dreaming, maybe we could appoint Judge Judy as a special prosecutor!  And Gerald Celente as baillif!  haha  Then I might have a little hope for some results.


Thu, 07/26/2012 - 17:13 | 2654674 2discern
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Why can't there be accountability in finance? government? elections? Maybe we think to small as citizens...

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 17:30 | 2654734 Remington IV
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giving a machine gun to a monkey

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 17:56 | 2654799 JohnnyBriefcase
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Thu, 07/26/2012 - 18:16 | 2654839 BlackholeDivestment
BlackholeDivestment's picture, Timmay should be dead, but, it's a; Gay Pride DOD, a Lawless Department of Justice and a ''We don't pay our whores'' SS world of SEC Porno for Pyros. Kinda makes yuh hungry for Yardbird, Bwak Bwak Bwak. I'll have fries with that Tu Tu, Desmond.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 18:44 | 2654931 Heroic Couplet
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Just someone talking about handcuffs makes it all sound like a rigged game, sorta like Bernanke endorsing video games for people who are unemployed. Talking about it is going to work until someone takes a good look at the wonderful essay on Jesses' website and changes behavior.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 18:44 | 2654933 Heroic Couplet
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Just someone talking about handcuffs makes it all sound like a rigged game, sorta like Bernanke endorsing video games for people who are unemployed. Talking about it is going to work until someone takes a good look at the wonderful essay on Jesses' website and changes behavior.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 21:14 | 2655289 JustACitizen
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I don't know - I am kind of looking forward to the future days in which politicians like Barack Obama/Mitt Romney tell us (the sheep) that we need to "trust" in order for the economy to move forward...the irony will be delicious - of course that may be all that is for dinner too...

Also - who the hell names these people?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 22:27 | 2655418 xxxkrogoth
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Timmy seems to be squirming quite a bit lately with his foul mouthed defending of himself. I think he feels the tires of the bus coming he is about to be thrown under. But in this clearly upside down world of finance we live in today with hardly anyone brought to justice I would not be surprised he gets the mandatory minimum of punishment in financial justice.  That is forced resignation or retirement with money intact and probably cushy speaking deals for the rest of his life. Or horror upon horror a return to the private sector! 

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 00:17 | 2655550 toomanyfakecons...
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After the MASS ARRESTS take place, chains and an orange jumpsuit are the only thing this pipsqueak have coming (see below).

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 00:14 | 2655546 Wave-Tech
Fri, 07/27/2012 - 00:34 | 2655565 toncuz
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Obama's big mistake? Being dumb enough to believe bringing conservatives like Geithner and Summers into his administration would make things like "reform" easier to pass. Until the "conservatives" are thrown out of Congress...until the philosophers...the Heritage Foundation, Cato and American Enterprise are shut down...we will always have the voices of corporate fascism with us bamboozling the nation.

They've convinced the dumbest voters on earth that the rich create the jobs, deregulation helps the economy and that self-regulation works because right-wing corporate central planners have your best interest at heart. Other than that...this "buy gold" fear-mongering site should call for the jailing of conservative bribe takers...since the progressives have not had a majority in Congress for 25 years. Until that happens, it's just talk with no real solutions.

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