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BBC Releases Official Statement On Alessio "The Trader" Rastani: He Is Perfectly Legit And The Interview Was Not A Hoax

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Zero Hedge's post yesterday of a trader telling the BBC how he (and everyone else) really feels about the current cataclysmic situation, went viral, and as of this writing, was about to generate 100,000 hits (legit ones: no slideshows were massacred in the creation of a some CPM abortion). Needless to say, the trader in question, Alessio Rastani, very suddenly and violently entered the public's eye, the most amusing side effect of which was the emergence a fringe group claiming that just because he looks like some other guy, that he is a spoof, and this was immediately used by the conventional media to attempt to discredit him. And as usually happens, this has backfired. The BBC has just released a statement confirming that Rastani is, indeed, a trader, and that all those (Forbes) who have nothing better to do than to attack the messenger and not the message, may be better advised to taking a Math 101 class and realizing why we are all scroomed, instead of polishing their character assassination skills. To everyone else who attempted to marginalize Rastani, "suck it" is not exactly what we would like to say, but it sure does the job. And to that we would like to add that just because Larry Summers is a spitting image of Jabba the Hut, that does not make him an automatic member of the "Tattoine Men" comedy troupe.

Full BBC Statement:

Statement on BBC News channel interview with trader Alessio Rastani

 

Date: 27.09.2011

 

The BBC have today issued the following statement regarding an interview with trader Alessio Rastani on the BBC News channel yesterday (Monday 26 September):

 

"We've carried out detailed investigations and can't find any evidence to suggest that the interview with Alessio Rastani was a hoax. He is an independent market trader and one of a range of voices we've had on air to talk about the recession."

 

BBC Press Office

And Statement from the Yes Men:

The Yes Men wish to commend Mr. "Alessio Rastani" for his masterful performance as "trader" on BBC World yesterday. Mr. Rastani's real name is Granwyth Hulatberi; he once appeared on CNBC MarketWrap as a "representative" of the WTO. Well done, Granwyth! You're getting better and better.

 

Just kidding. We've never heard of Rastani. Despite widespread speculation, he isn't a Yes Man. He's a real trader who is, for one reason or another, being more honest than usual. Who in big banking doesn't
bet against the interests of the poor and find themselves massively
recompensed—if not by the market, then by humongous taxpayer bailouts?
Rastani's approach has been completely mainstream for several years now;
we must thank him for putting a human face on it yesterday.

 

If you'd like to see the human face of the human perspective—the perspective of the 99% victimized by our demented and out-of-control financial system—come join the occupation of Wall Street. Michael Moore did so  last night,
and pointed out that in America, it's just 400 people who own as much
as most of the rest of us put together—and that when we decide we really
want to change the rules of the game, those 400 people won't be able to
do squat about it.

 

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Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:00 | 1715531 Fips_OnTheSpot
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Outstanding!

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:02 | 1715545 BaBaBouy
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SACKS Runs Da World, Bitchez ...

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:04 | 1715554 Troll Magnet
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Rogue! Rogue trader, bitchezzz!

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:04 | 1715559 UGrev
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he's a night elf mohawk!

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:07 | 1715580 phyuckyiu
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The MSM can't even handly one trader speaking their mind without going on the attack. Desperate much?

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:11 | 1715596 UGrev
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There is no love, but love of big brother... this video will undergo editing at the ministry of truth..

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:14 | 1715608 redpill
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I hope this guy doesn't like hot tubs...

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:18 | 1715626 redpill
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Maybe we need "I AM ALESSIO RASTANI" t-shirts in the Zerohedge store. 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:29 | 1715669 Pinto Currency
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Telling everyone we have a collapse coming and with a death defying leap of logic saying everyone should be in bonds (backed by endless money printing) shows this guy's opinion is not legit.

 

And GS are merely front-men.

 

 

 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:56 | 1715730 Kitler
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In admitting the system is about to collapse he gains credibility. Directing scared money into bonds at least keeps it out of commodities where it can send out a premature warning signal. He is doing great work in assisting the supression of inflation until the toiletbowl full of treasuries can be flushed.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:15 | 1715864 Dr. Richard Head
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Reminds me of the dog-walkers in my neighborhood.  Someone needs to hold the bags of shit. 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 22:33 | 1716107 Pinto Currency
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Dr. Head,

I hear what your are saying.

 

Nuff said.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:46 | 1715741 bugfixx
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His opinion is just as legit as yours is, even if you don't like it.  Maybe he'll get destroyed like most independent traders, or maybe he'll be the next Nassim Taleb.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:49 | 1716022 Zeilschip
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Iranian dude who pretends to be an Italian, and he recommends buying Treasurys and USD while at the same time warning that people's savings will disappear. Yeah right, he's perfectly legit.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 16:39 | 1716151 King_of_simpletons
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His accent is neither Italian nor Iranian. So may be there is a voice over conspiracy there too :-p

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:58 | 1715756 Mercury
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...who work for which group of even smarter and richer men?  The ones in Washington?  Please.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:02 | 1715809 Au Member
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Quick sweepstake on how they will punish him for his impudent truthiness:

 

a. Blackfriars Bridge

b. coproxamol ingestion and coronary artery atherosclerosis

c. Hit and Run

d. Weaponized Cancer.

e. Spraying his face with gold paint (My favorite)

 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 23:21 | 1717310 supernova
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Pinto he was just saying that you could benefit from a momentum trade. Give the guy a break. He was nervous but at least had the balls to speak his mind.

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 09:45 | 1718147 Pinto Currency
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It seems to me that if there is a collapse coming, you would want to provide some guidance to people.

How much lower does he think that interest rates are going to go?

The collapse will be in paper and that is the key issue.

The only deflation will be in price of everything measured in gold and silver.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 16:10 | 1716104 Thisson
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I want a Hugh Hendry "I recommend you panic" T-shirt, too, please!

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 17:49 | 1716429 Mauibrad
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You must of seen his travel videos.  The guys seems to be quite a bit of a young Renaissance Man.  Excellent observations here in this video of Alessio Rastani's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmFKPSBWpH4  BBC or some international media outlet ought to hire him as a social reporter.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:17 | 1715584 Pladizow
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I'd like to see CNBS's Steve Lies-man have his credentials questioned and validated.

Shit, throw in MSM's Bitch - Paul Krugman.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:14 | 1715857 GetZeeGold
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Throw in the Nobel prize committe.

 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:26 | 1715894 nope-1004
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Funny that someone speaking somewhat truthful warrants PR releases.  Yet, when a clown comes out of the woodwork (below) and publicly states a well known lie, no one says boo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aWyrjwXoIqA

The dumb don't walk among us, they're on TV!!!

 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 17:27 | 1716359 Pinto Currency
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The "Nobel Prize in Economics" received by Krugman is actually the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences given out not by the Nobel Prize Committee but by the Swedish Central Bank (Sveriges Riksbank).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Memorial_Prize_in_Economic_Sciences

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sveriges_Riksbank

So, the Swedish Central Bank awards a "Nobel" prize in economics to a money printing advocate.

There.  You now have objective proof that printing more money solves problems.

 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 20:17 | 1716847 GetZeeGold
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Well......those guys suck.

 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 20:53 | 1716949 GetZeeGold
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Double post......scroll on by.

 

 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:48 | 1715750 ZeroPoint
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Just like Sarah Palin! She went rogue! USA! USA! USA!

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:06 | 1715570 Fukushima Sam
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And the Bernank has his bollocks in a Twist!

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:24 | 1715629 Libertarians fo...
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The reason Rastani is dead wrong is because everyone - and I mean, EVERYONE! - is already expecting a crash.  From the smartest hedge funds to the dumbest bloggers, everyone is prepared for the armageddon trade.  Just look at treasury yields - everyone is all in. Look at gold.  The big guns like Paulson have already puked up big chunks of their weakest holdings, like Paulson's BAC and C positions.  Or look at how the hedge funds have performed for the year.... as the market has drifted mostly up for the year, hedge funds have barely been able to keep pace with the S&P. Why? Because they're all hedged for a huge downside collapse.  Everyone is on pins and needles.      

Market crashes don't occur when everyone is waiting for it.  Unlike the Lehman event, this Greek default has been so far telegraphed in advance, that when it finally does occur (November), it will be the biggest, anti-climatic dud of this entire crisis.  

The EuroZone certainly has some massive issues to work out, but it won't lead to the armageddon that everyone is drooling over. All the big money is already hedged and waiting.....  and that's why it'll be a dud.  

 

 

 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:26 | 1715661 john39
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there is obviously a point to all the delay tactics and rumors floated...  they are conditioning the market to a controlled default in Greece.  and so far it looks like they might pull it off.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:29 | 1715670 pods
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To my untrained eyes it seems that the only problem left to figure out is how to get 2+2=5.  When they solve that, we are fine.

Oh wait, then we have to figure out how to reconcile required exponential growth in the real world where you cannot print oil.

pods

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:43 | 1715726 bbq on whitehou...
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2+2 does = 5 if your number system starts at 1.

 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:49 | 1715755 Don Smith
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My number system goes to 11.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 17:54 | 1716446 Joseph Mother
Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:56 | 1715788 NotApplicable
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Why wouldn't it equal six?

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 23:14 | 1717294 prains
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2+2 does = 5 if your number system starts at 1.

 

radiohead figured out this problem years ago

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 16:17 | 1716128 fyrebird
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HAH! I have a patented process to produce oil from PLANTS!! yes simple PLANTS like in anyones garden.

All that is required is a large input of energy, which I get from conventional fuels. But the PLANTS GROW THEMSELVES!! It is simply amazing. and did I mention in is patent pending?

It's just like printing oil. I like your analogy. Yes printing oil WITH SIMPLE PLANTS!! Patents Pending on yo Nancy ass.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:32 | 1715677 clones2
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Market basically crashed 3 months ago... and has been whipsawing sideways the past 2 months.  Lots of dead space below the recent lows... and lots of resistance above.

You want to go long below the 50 dma... good luck to you.  Fundamentals are greeeeaaaat by the way... :-)

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:44 | 1715708 Libertarians fo...
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The fundamentals suck, and I have no doubt that the western world will experience a long period of no growth.  But for a true market crash to occur, which is what Rastani is calling for, everyone needs to be on the wrong side of the boat - like what you saw with gold and silver this past week. 

That's not the case with the equity market.  Everyone is hedged and ready.  The weakest links in various portfolios have already been puked up over the summer.  Over the coming 12 months, the market and the economy are going to provide us with a bunch of - in the spirit of Sartre - nothingness. We'll get whipsawed around a bit, but, for the most part, we'll just drift around and end up nowhere.   

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:46 | 1715740 bbq on whitehou...
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All the 401ks and pensions are on the wrong side of the boat.  Government is on the wrong side of the boat. Nations, states all ponzi money is on the wrong side of the boat. The world is on the wrong side of the boat who cares if a few  hundred billion is on the right side of the trade if tens of trillions are on the wrong side.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 16:44 | 1716185 Libertarians fo...
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401K's and pensions represent dumb money, and dumb money never reacts until the crash has already occurred.  That money is always pulled near the bottom. 

The remainder of your comment is a non-specific mention of governments, nations and ponzi money. I know all the arguments. I've heard all the gloom and doom. I've got all the images of armageddon in my mind: the house of cards, the multi-trillions in pryramiding derivative debt, the hindenburg omens, etc. etc. etc.  The sky is falling!

So tell me, if the western world is about to implode in a spectacular ponzi fireball, tell me why the strongest, most reliable bull market in the history of Wall Street is that of treasuries. That's a 40+ year trend line you're fighting.  Demand for our debt is stronger than ever.  If the whole western ponzi game is about to end, tell me why we can finance our debt at record low rates.  Tell me why money continues to gravitate toward our Treasury like it's some sort of neutron star. And when you answer, keep in mind, the Fed is not bigger than the bond market.  If you need proof of that, take a look at rates last winter, shortly after QE2 began.  

This game can last longer than you can imagine. This country has endured far worse conditions than the one now. Hell, just 35 years ago, everyone thought the USD was toast, and people waited an entire day for gas. The reason everyone is in armageddon mode now is because this is the first crisis that this generation has been confronted with. We've had it easy for decades.  And now everyone thinks the world is ending.  Bullshit.   

Just wait until the Great Fed Jubilee, and the whole ponzi system is given a fresh breath of life. That would really piss you off, wouldn't it? They'll cut bullshit like Ron Paul's $8M in shrimp research before they allow social security to flame out. But I know that's not what you want to hear.  You want to be vindicated for hoarding your ammo, your hams, and your metal.  You want to prove to your friends and neighbors that your goofiness and paranoia is merited.  You want to put on your camouflage, and play your juvenile G.I. Joe games of urban warfare.  

Or maybe you're just a drama queen. Who knows?  Whatever your reason for wanting to believe the end is near, it'll be proven wrong.  Sorry, but the western world is not ending anytime soon.     

 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 17:50 | 1716433 mick
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Well written, but you should change the hitler face for some tits.

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 01:45 | 1717501 ViewfromUnderth...
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So tell me, if the western world is about to implode in a spectacular ponzi fireball, tell me why the strongest, most reliable bull market in the history of Wall Street is that of treasuries. That's a 40+ year trend line you're fighting.  Demand for our debt is stronger than ever.  If the whole western ponzi game is about to end, tell me why we can finance our debt at record low rates.  Tell me why money continues to gravitate toward our Treasury like it's some sort of neutron star. And when you answer, keep in mind, the Fed is not bigger than the bond market.  If you need proof of that, take a look at rates last winter, shortly after QE2 began. 

OK, Adolf...who is buying Treasuries? Apart from Bernanke (who needs to keep rates low or the US blows up), China (who need to keep the Renminbi low or China blows up), Euro banks (who need to convert the dollar swaps to collateral so they can maintain leverage of 40 - 100:1 or Europe blows up), Japan (see China above) and London aka ME potentates with some hidden Chinese buying thrown in...see all of the above. Low interest rates for these reasons are not a good thing...the Treasury Bond bubble is the penultimate bubble...Soros has told us the ultimate bubble (and shown that he understands English better than most) and the only way we are going to see it with our own eyes is to keep thinking like you.

Also, please read "In The Garden of Beasts" and see if you still think your avatar is funny.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:14 | 1715746 Comay Mierda
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dumbass if everyone was buying gold you would see all the homeless temps on the sidewalk holding "WE SELL GOLD" signs instead of "WE BUY GOLD". more people may be hedged this time around because the last collapse is a recent memory. but what will happen when the bernank hits the print button to save all the banks and monetize 100% of govt deficit spending?  The dollar will take a shit.  very few are hedged for hyperinflation

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:17 | 1715873 Libertarians fo...
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Hey foolio - let me give you a hot tip.....  the homeless guys holding signs on street corners have absolutely no relevance to the movements in the international gold market.  If homeless guys holding street signs is your metric for supply/demand in the gold market, you're a fucking idiot. 

 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:33 | 1715932 SilverDOG
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The difference between a homeless mans sign, and a dead mans face surrounded with numbers... 

belief above ZERO.

All of your rationalization is dollar based. I pity you, FOOL.

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 00:28 | 1717405 chindit13
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Good to see you here. ZH Comments Section needs more perspective.  "Gold IS money" gets a little tedious.  Of course so does, "everything will work out for the best."

Regarding PMs, I'm adding a post over on the HF YTD article, so I won't repeat here.  Suffice it to say here, I think many of the PM hoarders haven't considered all the possibilities.

Just about everything that can be said has been said, so we are all just regurgitating.  I might enjoy having Tyler allow a few folks to write competing pieces on different economic scenarios, then allow a vote to see where the majority---at least amongst ZH posters---stands.  The range of articles and opinions would span everything from a Harry Wanger World to Mad Max,  What do you think, Tyler?

Personally, I often wonder what the Mad Max crowd thinks about PMs in a Mad Max world.  My guess is that in such a world, where necessities are in short supply, PMs would be about as valuable as Stevie Cohen's Willem de Kooning collection.  With no disrespect intended, I can imagine some of the PM-Mad Max types preferring a metal detector, rather than a Thompson or an M1, when landing on Omaha Beach on D-Day.  I doubt any rational person was looking for lost change from the Sunday bathers on that horrible day.  Sometimes other things are far more valuable than a ton of gold.

 

 

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 05:16 | 1717681 Libertarians fo...
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Thanks Chindit. :)

You're one of the ZH classics.  Lots of respect for you, fine Sir.

 

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 01:52 | 1717516 ViewfromUnderth...
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Not such a hot tip...80% of physical gold is privately owned, so the continuing lack of general public participation (still net sellers, is the point being made) does have a bearing on the gold price.

and why so rude?

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:13 | 1715852 clymer
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Wrong side of the boat? You don't consider 1.5 quadrillion in CDS, derivative and OTC packaged debt that makes up almost the entirety of the banking sector balance sheet "over-leveraged"?

I am certain you didn't load up on physical PM's since Friday to take advantage of this (greatly appreciated) gift from our manipulative friends at the exchanges, but I am equally certain that a day will come when you wish that you did.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:16 | 1715868 fuu
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He did buy SLV yesterday though.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 18:13 | 1716501 Roi
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It doesn't really matter wich side of the boat you're on, when the paper it's made of starts to dissolve.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 16:49 | 1716235 Beekn
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Guy-Please understand that all of MIDDLE AMERICA that buys and holds fits into this category.

They will lose all of their "savings" upon the great crash.  Get it?

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 16:49 | 1716236 Beekn
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Guy-Please understand that all of MIDDLE AMERICA that buys and holds fits into this category.

They will lose all of their "savings" upon the great crash.  Get it?

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:34 | 1715688 PivotalTrades
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If it was just Greece I would agree.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:36 | 1715699 Quinvarius
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The people in trouble control the printing presses.  Therefore, they will print.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:43 | 1715729 sabra1
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wasn't everyone just a couple of months ago calling for dow 14500? maybe that's the reason it didn't happen!

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:01 | 1715805 fuu
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So to sum up your post, "Boring world we live in?"

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 21:20 | 1717026 Bay of Pigs
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And, as usual, very few agree with your analysis while most continue to feel you are completely full of shit.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 21:36 | 1717067 Libertarians fo...
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And, as usual, I don't give a shit whether or not a bunch of doomer goons agree with me, or not.  

I happen to know you're one of the self-proclaimed Turdites, so perhaps you could help me with something. Turd keeps deleting his bad calls, and he did it again yesterday night.  When he updated his "White Out" article last night, he removed the chart in which he predicted earlier in the morning that silver would find a bottom near 22-23. 

This is probably the fourth or fifth chart that he's deleted in the past 48 hours, and I was wondering if you find this embarrassing.  You're a Turdite, after all...

 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 21:49 | 1717109 Bay of Pigs
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No, your wrong. People here are not all "doomers". I hate to break it to you but nobody cares what you say because you have no credibility. Especially on PM's.

My advice is for you to quit posting this nonsense, and go work on your anger and insecurity issues.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 23:52 | 1717351 UP Forester
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Kind of on topic:  Anybody hear any chatter about massive puts on the S&P, a la airline puts 9/01?

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:41 | 1715637 Cynical Sidney
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this trader rastani is telling people the truth about the markets! how dare he! must launch smear campaign and paint him as a rouge trader.

or bbc could bring him back. and rastani should replace shalom bernanke at the fed

ps. he looks like andy bichlbaum who duped bbc on the bhopal compensations. guess it's how the hoax rumors started

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:46 | 1715745 fonestar
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Who has read the Reuters blog?:

http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/09/27/is-alessio-rastani-a-ye...

"and you don’t need to spend very much time hanging around the comments section (or even many of the posts) at Zero Hedge to discern a strong nihilistic and even anti-capitalist strain to much of the thinking in that community."

First they claim that there is no way that he could be a "Yes Men" and then conclude that he is both a member AND a trader!  Oh, and apparently it is us (and not the markets) that are nihilist and we are all anti-capitalist here on ZH!

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:10 | 1715842 Demologos
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It looks like they are mistaking "anti-capitalist" for "anti-parasite" ... any why not?  Every parasite chomps away at its host thinking life is good, until the host dies.

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 08:54 | 1717991 Double R
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http://companycheck.co.uk/company/06208542

SANTORO PROJECTS LIMITED
Established 11/04/2007

 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:01 | 1715536 gratefultraveller
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Thanks for the belly laugh

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:02 | 1715544 Gubbmint Cheese
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"suck it" MSM.

TD - was the "suck it" a Tosh reference? Holy.. your pop culture references are unreal.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:03 | 1715547 j0nx
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They are just following Goebbels' playbook of discredit the messenger, discredit the message. It usually works on the sheep. The informed tell them to go shit in their hat.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:04 | 1715558 Whalley World
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This guy may end up in the deep blue sea next to the body formerly known as Osama

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:23 | 1715646 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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Hmm, did Forbes try to go for the Axis of Evil connection since his last name is Rastani (could be a persian surname). And yes, I do think that the "discrediting" types would stoop lower than a pygmy limbo dancer to try and avoid the actual truth of the situation.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:05 | 1715562 kengland
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This is FREAKING BLOWING UP. Story on ABC radio! LMAO. The fact that this a "breaking news story" says it all. First time folks have heard such a thing

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:06 | 1715568 fyrebird
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scroomed

I learn something new every day.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:10 | 1715592 Pladizow
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Screwed 'n' Doomed Bitchez!

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 17:19 | 1716335 bid the soldier...
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It happens on Dexter all the time.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:06 | 1715572 fdisk
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Poor boy, probably booted already for loses :)))

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:06 | 1715573 Skeptical1
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Everyone loves a Henny Penny (Chicken Little).

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:43 | 1715728 Former Sheeple
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@Steriod thanks for the link, but the Forbes questions were a bit scary...

FORBES: Where did you grow up?

FORBES: Do you work from an office or home?

FORBES: Where do you live?

FORBES: How old are you?

FORBES: What hours do you work?

FORBES: What do you do when you’re not trading?

He might want to go deep, deep under cover...

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:07 | 1715576 Mutatto
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That guys speaking fee is going to be ridiculous in a few months...

He should saving all those clips of the MSM discounting him.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:34 | 1715690 DosZap
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Mutatto ,

He is not saying one thing new, that has not been preached from the rooftops already.

Schiff,Paul, Celente,etc,etc.

At least in the US.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:59 | 1715796 Treason Season
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One small detail you're overlooking Zappy, this was on the Blair Broadcasting Corp.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:07 | 1715577 The Deleuzian
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His pantomimes (Rastani) were legit (IMO)...I don't think he was lying!!  Maybe just someone who can't keep a secret...You do know that 'secret keeping' is hard on the psyche...

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:09 | 1715588 Fips_OnTheSpot
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Is truth now a secret? Gotcha.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:21 | 1715641 The Deleuzian
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The only thing he did that bothered me was the looking left...But you need more than one to discredit yourself...It's a little more difficult to judge people on media...Looking left could have been due to looking at himself in a tv or computer moniter present...Aside from that...Rastani at first glance, as unbelievable in today's totally 'full of BS" news, looks like he's telling the truth or at least believes he is...

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:42 | 1715725 Max Hunter
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I don't think he had any intention of his comments catching fire like this.  That's not to say he didn't know the comments would be controversial or overly bearish, I just think he had no idea he would take over Jim Rodgers and Marc Faber with one 3 minute video within 6 hours of it hitting youtube.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:27 | 1715900 richard in norway
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i he just started winging it, but he paused when he was going to say short the market, you could see his brain suddenly backtracking. he probably realized that if he came right out and told people to go short and the market tanked, then he would be toast

 

 

BTW

 

i sent the link to every one i know, and i think lots of other people did as well

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:08 | 1715582 The Axe
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Good news.....hes awesome...thanks for the truth...Bad News his short book is choking on so huge loses in the last two days....  sure he still has a few pounds in which to buy a pint

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:09 | 1715583 optionsoptions
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Yes MSM bad!

 

BBC press office good. 

 

Talk about the biggest deflection piece since Clinton. "An independent Market Trader" and they have "no" evidence it was a hoax

 

Translated via google common sense: He has an etrade account and you can't prove we got fooled so nananananana!!!

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:13 | 1715606 the grateful un...
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For a long while there the BBC was better than the MSM, but you could see that was over when they started running the same dog and pony features that the MSM ran.

the real news now is Al Jazeera

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:25 | 1715653 The Deleuzian
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You mean the CIA Radio Tower

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 00:06 | 1717374 UP Forester
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BBC, CIA radio tower?  Nah, they just get the script early:  www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxFRigYD3s

Never gets old....

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 16:36 | 1716181 CompassionateFascist
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Then try Russia Today...KGB version of the world, and way truthy...at least about the US/EUR mess.  

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:09 | 1715586 I am a Man I am...
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what the fuck did he say that everyone didn't already know, Taibbi has written stuff much more damaging, Jim Rogers says this type of stuff all the time, hell, Rick Perry said the bernank should be tried for treason

not sure what the big deal is

 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:13 | 1715604 Arthor Bearing
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Regular ZH readers and people who get their news from TV literally live in seperate realities

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:21 | 1715640 I am a Man I am...
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you're right, it's strange being de-programmed

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:33 | 1715685 Dr. Richard Head
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I turn on the TV every now and again to see what is being sold to the people, especially the national evening "news".  My god, the garbage that comes out of these sources is filled with so many lies and half-truthes.  It is evident to me now, but my past self take as gospel.  I would love to go back to myself in former times and kick the shit out of myself.  The ignorance and blind faith of the programmed in the news is worth an ass kicking every now and again.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:34 | 1715937 richard in norway
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what i dont get is how many times i hear on the radio "the FTSE closed up 20 points today" when i know for a fact that it trading lower than yesterdays close. ok so they are not lying but if the market opens 100 points down andmanages to put on 20 points, it still down 80. its misleading

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 16:07 | 1716093 Blano
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No doubt.  The local news is just the worst.  Each story seems like 1 minute of the story itself and 2-3 minutes of reactions from the people on the street.  I can't even stand the commercials for the new TV shows, they look so pathetic.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 16:21 | 1716140 The Deleuzian
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NPR is getting pretty dumbed-down as well...The whole way each subject is divided into two opposing sides is in itself limiting...This tactic is used throughout Mass Media... It allows the listener/viewer to easily decide even the most complicated/compex issue!!  Pathetic

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 16:33 | 1716168 clymer
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kind of lonely being awake. I can count the people I know who are on one hand

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 00:15 | 1717388 UP Forester
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I can count the number of people that aren't awake by the bins of junk silver at the local jewelry store.  I guess $25/face is just too much....

Too bad I could only afford FRN250 worth....

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 18:26 | 1716535 ElvisDog
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Not only is there virtually no news presented by the MSM, but what is presented (IMHO) is intended to upset the viewers. Turning off the MSM news and getting it from independent sources not only makes you better informed but is good for your mental health too.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 17:33 | 1716384 Freddie
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Anyone who watches TV is a serf who enpowers their overlords.  If the public yanked the plug on TV enmasse - they might get some of their freedom back from the evil who control their lives.

They would rather see that fat cow Nancy Grace expose her fat t*t (on dancing with a cow) - so granpa can get wood. Morons.   "Yup granpa got wood thinking about her....""

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:10 | 1715590 the grateful un...
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The Summer(s) of Larry is about over

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:11 | 1715594 jdelano
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This my favorite post of the week.  Laughing my ass off at this excellent batch of Tylerisms and feeling giddy about the new house money puts I am going to stack at 3:55.  Great day. 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:11 | 1715595 Sudden Debt
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Never the less, the media has created the next crisis...

so clear!

WE BROADCAST IT SO IT EXISTS!

so many people still believe this... so few realize what's happening... but on the other hand, if everybody was reading ZH the servers would crash every 10 minutes :)

 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:15 | 1715617 Tsar Pointless
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And they don't crash every 10 minutes already?

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:11 | 1715597 PY-129-20
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I enjoyed watching that clip. You may not agree with him (I do on most points) like Econmatters, but to discredit him is just weak and shows how desperate some of the MSM in their constant propaganda efforts are. I mean, they could've just ignored the guy - one opinion and every... has one stuff.

Another thing:

I think the El Hierro volcano is in a bubble. A magma bubble that will be burst. BTFLD...

Accumulated energy chart (Very bullish):
http://www.02.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/energia_HIERRO.jpg

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:56 | 1715777 fishface
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They attacked him because they thought he's week

Forbes did this 4 page interview and the last thing they say is you're a fake, thats low

http://www.forbes.com/sites/emilylambert/2011/09/27/trader-or-prankster-...

 

+1 for the BBC to back him up

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:11 | 1715598 Gringo Viejo
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Still calling it a.............recession.     lmao

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 00:18 | 1717392 UP Forester
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Nuh, ahh!  The recession ended June of '09.  The TV told me so.

 

Don't you watch the elegantly dressed bald guys and pin-up wannabes?

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:14 | 1715602 King_of_simpletons
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So there are people still living in caves that are in disbelief.  For me Rastani sounded legit and routinely normal. I need to know from CNBC if their analysts and panel of experts are hoaxes, which I know is most definitely the case.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:14 | 1715609 RazorForex
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Read between the lines people.

This story was released yesterday, today euro is up.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:14 | 1715612 Smithovsky
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too legit to quit

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:15 | 1715615 monopoly
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I am sure now that it has been proven real Diane Sawyer will air it tonight along with Brian Williams. They always let the truth be told. lol

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:17 | 1715624 Stoploss
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The big deal is they thought this was a joke. He would never have been allowed on the show if they knew what he was going to say up front before interview.

The video is all over the place, and looks like it might go viral. Too late, the cats out of the bag.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:20 | 1715630 mayhem_korner
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Let's see, what is more comical here:

...that the BBC issued a statement clarifying the veracity of a story.

...or that the BBC "extensively" investigated this guy AFTER the interview.

By this exception, we can conclude that the MSM will put on any bloke that spews forth a combination of syllables acceptable to the goal of misdirecting the public.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:21 | 1715639 Mongo
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Forbes is fake

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:25 | 1715652 JW n FL
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LIES!!!

ALL!! LIES!!!!

 

My paper Money still folds easier in my wallet than silver or gold AND!!! I can eat it!!

$5 bucks to dig it out of the ground!!

Europe will be fine when the $3 trillion in new debt gets pumped into the system! http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2011/09/26/am-possible-euro-debt-solution-partial-greek-default-3-trillion-bailout/

$3 trillion in new debt will help ppay for the old debt and then the Tax Payers will better be able to pay for the old debt becuase of the new debt, see?

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:37 | 1715703 Dr. Richard Head
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Clear as mud. I better go buy me some US bonds right away.

I know it was stated here before, but his "flight to safety" run was my area of conern.  Really?  US Ponzi debt?  Truth about economic downfall, but lie about where to safe-haven?  Oh well. 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 16:46 | 1716218 Hapte
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You're the man Jaydub.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:25 | 1715656 DosZap
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Outside the MSM (Gov't bought Clowns), it's obvious to anyone w/half a brain he was dead on in his assertions.

Bottom line, no one WANTS to believe him. And those that know he is correct, do not want the sheeple spooked.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:25 | 1715657 Schmuck Raker
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The fact the BBC found it necessary to release such a statement is a sad commentary on the current state of the world in which we live:

-the truth is unrecognizable for what it is

-the BBC is assumed to be untrustworthy

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:11 | 1715683 falak pema
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its called bureaucratic knee jerk : cover your ass with TPTB.

"We were doing our job, boss!..We didn't know this guy would pull the plug on good british understated, subtle analysis by going "overboard" in pure dago style..." 

Now the establishment promotes the buzz... he is a scam...it's less embarrassing than admitting they didn't vet him beforehand!

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:27 | 1715659 RobotTrader
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FAZ and TZA holders getting utterly destroyed

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:37 | 1715704 Shirley Wilfahrt
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Winter is coming....plastic works much better than tinfoil when insulating basement windows....

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:41 | 1715710 somethingisrotten
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Don't think so MomoTrader, I just bought them both two minutes ago.

 

How's that NFLX treating ya?

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:07 | 1715830 The Axe
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you always cherry pick.....how about the longs on IOC.......ouch    AAPl  acting like shit on a crazy up tape...amzn and nflx   getting ass fucked to.....

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:07 | 1715833 The Axe
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you always cherry pick.....how about the longs on IOC.......ouch    AAPl  acting like shit on a crazy up tape...amzn and nflx   getting ass fucked to.....

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:47 | 1716011 Placerville
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It all depends on your timing!

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:51 | 1716024 firstdivision
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Care to elaborate on this ill-timed statement?  For the record though, I did say 3pm would be plunge time.  But hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:30 | 1715674 Edward Fiatski
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Manufactured reality - the peasants don't know what is real anymore; anything outside the projected perceptions is deemed a 'hoax', a 'nut', 'insane'.

It will be quite easy to send them marching off to war with China.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:41 | 1715691 bid the soldier...
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It was like watching Ming the Merciless in a pink tie on a flat screen tv.

The facelift was fabulous and so were the plugs.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:39 | 1715693 Internet Tough Guy
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Skeezy, arrogant NYer with slicked back hair, a pink tie, a total disregard for right and wrong, all-consuming obsession with wringing the last buck from a dying system even though it will be worthless, would screw his mother over on a trade, worships pigmen. Yep, he's a trader.

I think he's Robotrader.

 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:35 | 1715694 Segestan
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I think the BBC statement is fair and true, although BBC is crap news. That Rastani told it like he sees it , that he was correct on most points. However I don't like his advice..... Got Gold?

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:35 | 1715696 Tom_333
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WilliamBanzai needs to take this on. You can´t make this up. Someone who really speaks the truth as he sees it - on business MSM!

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:36 | 1715701 fyrebird
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Having an opinion on things cannot be a hoax.

If he went on the BBC and said all that and then said "and I'm Paul Krugman so blow me", that would be a hoax.

But any of us could have gone on the BBC and said what that guy said, claimed to be traders (well I do and just did 5 minutes ago and many here are) and it would not have been a hoax in any sense at all.

See? This is meme-casting -- polluting how people think about things -- in which case ZH is a hoax, I'm a hoax, and everyone reading this is a hoax ... whatever the actual fuck that means. In a practical sense, it means nothing at all.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 20:39 | 1716918 tip e. canoe
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"This is meme-casting"   indeed it is -- nice catch.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:39 | 1715706 Hook Line and S...
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Alessio is not who or what he seems. He may not even know it.

Limited hangout tool.

Admits he does not have the wool wearing one's best interest, and then says he does.

Add heavy truths to enhance the ego, tell your targeted 'victim' you are going after them so you can rationalize your misbehavior...

'I told her I was going to sodomize her if she dressed that way, she put on her daisy dukes anyways. Then, I made it clear to her family that if they left the door unlocked I'd come in a steal their lazyboy recliner and defecate on the carpet. F'n idiots, they knew. It's their fault.'

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:06 | 1715825 falak pema
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you wanna read a novel on medieval times ?

Here it is! 

http://www.falakpema.com/buythebook.html

the e-book is availabe on amazon and barnes& noble.

Just saying...

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 15:59 | 1716060 Hook Line and S...
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I shall pick one up, later today. Thanks for the reminder.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:40 | 1715711 buzzsaw99
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Drop by zh anytime Alessio. Or perhap he is already, oh, that's just crazy talk...

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:41 | 1715716 hampsterwheel
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Here someone that caught up with him after the fact - I love it when he referred to his GS comment "I thought everyone knew this" ---- see what happens when you don't get out much - the sheeple don't know - they think its still all GW's fault --- http://abcnews.go.com/Business/trader-prankster-alessio-rastanis-claims-...

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:41 | 1715717 reader2010
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Do you really think you can get truth from TV? Get grip.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:40 | 1715718 bania
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Pulitzer prize intro, nice work whichever version of Tyler.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:44 | 1715732 Piranhanoia
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Imagine that happening here?  No producer in the US would even allow such a guest live.  I am betting that less and less supposed live interviews are just pre recorded these days.  There are only a few people that know who's boss that are allowed to participate in any live news program.  You never see Paul or Kucinich, because they would say unexpected truths and ruin a nice sunday anti anxiety/anti depression compendium designed to work with the medication your doctor is told by your country to give you should you encounter a sudden dose of reality.

 

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:46 | 1715742 Wakanda
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What's wrong with "suck it"?

Works for me.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 14:47 | 1715747 jjsilver
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We don't need some mainstream shill to inform what most people already know that the world is in a mess. What people should focus on is that he believes the dollar and treasury paper are safe havens.

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