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"The Beijing Conference": See How China Quietly Took Over Africa

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Back in 1885, to much fanfare, the General Act of the Berlin Conference launched the Scramble for Africa which saw the partition of the continent, formerly a loose aggregation of various tribes, into the countries that currently make up the southern continent, by the dominant superpowers (all of them European) of the day. Subsequently Africa was pillaged, plundered, and in most places, left for dead. The fact that a credit system reliant on petrodollars never managed to take hold only precipitated the "developed world" disappointment with Africa, no matter what various enlightened, humanitarian singer/writer/poet/visionaries claim otherwise. And so the continent languished. Until what we have dubbed as the "Beijing Conference" quietly took place, and to which only Goldman Sachs, which too has been quietly but very aggressively expanding in Africa, was invited. As the map below from Stratfor shows, ever since 2010, when China pledged over $100 billion to develop commercial projects in Africa, the continent has now become de facto Chinese territory. Because where the infrastructure spending has taken place, next follow strategic sovereign investments, and other modernization pathways, until gradually Africa is nothing but an annexed territory for Beijing, full to the brim with critical raw materials, resources and supplies. So while the "developed world" was and continues to deny the fact that it is broke, all the while having exactly zero money to invest in expansion, China is quietly taking over the world. Literally.

 

More from Stratfor:

In late July, Beijing hosted the 5th Forum on China-Africa Cooperation, during which China pledged up to $20 billion to African countries over the next three years. China has proposed or committed about $101 billion to commercial projects in Africa since 2010, some of which are under negotiation while others are currently under way. Together, construction and natural resource deals total approximately $90 billion, or about 90 percent of Chinese commercial activity in Africa since 2010. These figures could be even higher because of an additional $7.5 billion in unspecified commitments to South Africa and Zambia, likely intended for mining projects. Of the remaining $3 billion in Chinese commercial commitments to Africa, about $2.1 billion will be used on local manufacturing projects. While China has proposed $750 million for agriculture and general development aid and about $50 million to support small- and medium-sized business development in addition to the aforementioned projects, it has been criticized for the extractive nature of its relationship with many African countries, as well as the poor quality of some of its construction work. However, since many African countries lack the indigenous engineering capability to construct these large-scale projects or the capital to undertake them, African governments with limited resources welcome Chinese investments enthusiastically. These foreign investment projects are also a boon for Beijing, since China needs African resources to sustain its domestic economy, and the projects in Africa provide a destination for excess Chinese labor.

 

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Wed, 08/08/2012 - 09:55 | 2687349 daccord
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we all live in a yellow submarine 

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:03 | 2687369 Comay Mierda
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wow look at all those countries the USA/NATO will invade

Obomber is polishing his peace prize as we speak. looks of ppl to liberate with his humanitarian bombs

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:07 | 2687394 MillionDollarBonus_
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The 2005 "live 8 concert" went a long way to improve living standards in Africa by focusing on relieving African governments of millions of dollars of debt. This is the progressive approach to helping Africa - making sure that governments are sufficiently funded to centrally plan a compassionate and forward thinking economy. The progressive revolution rejects that notion that thousands of people per week are being lifted out of poverty in China and India because of "free market reforms". We have done our own analysis, and we are convinced that central planning and regulations are what reduces poverty in the long run.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:09 | 2687401 BeetleBailey
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who is this "we"? You and your dog...assuming that you have dog that likes you.....

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:25 | 2687474 MillionDollarBonus_
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I mean “we” as in forward-thinking progressives. You really think progressives would reject the free market without doing any research? You think we just attack the free market for personal reasons??? NO! ... progressives always do their research. We care deeply about the poor, so naturally we have studied libertarian claims about the free market and poverty reduction in detail. We have objectively and conclusively determined that the free market in fact does NOT lift thousands per week out of poverty in China and India. This is simply a libertarian lie. To make these claims without solid research would be irresponsible, so  of course we research our hypotheses before making claims about how to help the poor. 

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:27 | 2687480 Short Memories
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They need a smiley for "Crying with laughter"

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:34 | 2687514 old naughty
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The map resmebles a GO game chessboard

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(game)

of which many Chinese leaders are experts.

So they are expanding the game-playing to the southern continent, much like the petro chessboard game the US-UK played "so well".

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:20 | 2687716 Precious
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"we are convinced that central planning and regulations are what reduces poverty in the long run"

I think that was Trotsky or Lenin's famous line.  MDB.  The bell just rang.  Time to go to pottery class.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:28 | 2687486 azzhatter
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Thanks for the laughs this morning MDB. A little too obvious but an A for effort

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:36 | 2688003 Precious
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MDB - like most good libs, you just cannot get over how important you are ...

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:13 | 2687693 TruthBeforeAll
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The one thing that central planners absolutely require is a mass of ignorant and desperate people. In the U.S. this is being created by the central planners themselves, in Africa, it's a preexisting condition.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:10 | 2687918 AnAnonymous
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The one thing that central planners absolutely require is a mass of ignorant and desperate people. In the U.S. this is being created by the central planners themselves, in Africa, it's a preexisting condition.
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If that was true, central planning would have taken root in Sub Saharan Africa way before 'Americans' set foot there.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:56 | 2688065 LFMayor
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you mean "Chinese", don't you, you servile little spawn of opium huffers.  And please tell your masters that logistics 1/2 way around the world are a real sumbitch.   Better get that banana boat navy of yours up to snuff if you expect to keep your gains.  And make friends with India, they're right in the middle of your supply lines and could be a serious PITA if they're not onboard.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:17 | 2687713 Carl Spackler
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I have never met or seen a "forward-thinking progressive."

In fact, I am not sure such exist except perhaps in cartoons. 

Why...because realism and idealism are polar opposite philosophies.

<GONG>  Thanks for playing, MDB, we have some nice parting gifts for you.

 

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:47 | 2687850 AnAnonymous
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We have objectively and conclusively determined that the free market in fact does NOT lift thousands per week out of poverty in China and India. This is simply a libertarian lie.

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Libertarians telling that there is free market in China and India? Where can one read that?

The development in those countries is ensured by an increasingly powerful State apparatus.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:56 | 2687874 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

The development in those countries is ensured by an increasingly powerful State apparatus.

Evidently the state apparatus in China has blobbed up into Africa.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:11 | 2687925 AnAnonymous
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Africa is 'American' turf.

Please join reality now and then.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:57 | 2688067 LFMayor
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LOL, we already have enough section 8, what the hell do we want with more?

You try it for a while, see how you like that shit.

YMMV

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 13:03 | 2688090 TheFourthStooge-ing
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ROR! Made me laugh.

Please join reality now and then.

Best example yet of wok calling cooking marmite black.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:15 | 2687928 jayman21
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MDB - Are you Jon Stewart or someone else on Comedy Central trying out new jokes?  The quality of the sarcasm is off the charts and it seems non-stop.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:38 | 2688008 meghaljani
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I admire you as the best satirist on the Zero Hedge. 

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 14:51 | 2688490 cranky-old-geezer
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50 million Americans on food stamps, all time record, growing each month.

Yep, your "central planning & regulations" really doing the trick here in America.

"Progressives" never produce any facts to back up their claims, because there are no facts to back up their claims. 

Facts show the opposite,  central planning always fails.

Central planning isn't about helping people.  It's about controlling people ...and looting people.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:52 | 2687618 Landrew
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Reading and not knowing SARCASM or BELIEF is the height of good writing! I really enjoy the thoughts of MDB! I rarely agree with anything said, however it's exactly what the 1% think of us on both sides of the same Conservative/Liberal yacht. 

 

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:13 | 2687413 Inibo E. Exibo
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You are the wind beneath my wings.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:19 | 2687437 francis_sawyer
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So let me get this straight...

China is spending billions on resources & infrastructure while Bill Gates & Warren Buffett are killing off the population via Eugenics... Am I missing anything?

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:19 | 2687433 malikai
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Caviar!

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:21 | 2687443 Short Memories
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HAHAHAHAHA Love it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_8#A_lack_of_black_presence

Perhaps "Went a long way to making Geldof look like a philanthopist!"

I always take the time to read MDB's posts! Love 'im! :D

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:59 | 2687648 Alpacanio
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Your right MDB. Let the Chinese handle Africa. I'm sure they will get burnt like the others...

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:58 | 2688074 LFMayor
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exactly! 

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:42 | 2687560 YuropeanImbecille
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I do not see a problem here? We have become such PC pussies we do not even try to take what belongs to us!

 

So if the chinese want it, why not let them have it? We can not leave the resources there and think nobody else would not be interested.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:30 | 2687771 Oldrepublic
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Nick Turse of Tom Dispatch recently had a very good article on the US Africa Command

http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175567/tomgram%3A_nick_turse%2C_america%...

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 21:51 | 2689704 Caged Monkey
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and the irony of the financier of their invasion: http://dailypolicyjournal.com/2011/11/18/china-financing-the-development...

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:43 | 2687832 Dingleberry
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Africa is just a big Detroit with minerals.  If they think they are going to get rich by investing there.....good luck to them.  The West has been there. Done that.  China will spend more than they make.  You'll see.  That is why Africa is, and always will be, a backwater cesspool.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:57 | 2687883 dirtbagger
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Yes, Africa is rich in natural resources, but it has been an investment graveyard for over a century.  If you want to exploit African resources, better bring an army with you.   The low hanging fruit has been gone for a long time.  

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:14 | 2687930 AnAnonymous
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If they think they are going to get rich by investing there.....good luck to them. The West has been there. Done that. China will spend more than they make.

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Ah, yes, and the US citizens residing in the US also grow poorer by thieving the land from the Indians.

US citizens have been there, done that, and finally are poorer than they were at the start.

The indo european's burden: an extortion scheme is no longer run for the benefit of the extorter, it is run for the benefit of the extorted.

The great leap in humanity knowledge as offered by 'Americanism', the best thing to ever happen to mankind...

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:30 | 2687984 prains
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And you propose chinkism will do better? quoi

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:52 | 2688056 AnAnonymous
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Chinese ways are inept at performing efficiently certain things like ethnical cleansing, mindless consumption and the rest of 'American' forte.

The Chinese are not going to deploy any chinese traditional way in Africa as they now know of much better way: 'Americanism'

Africa is already 'American' turf and the chinese, proponents of 'Americanism' going in Africa are going to find a more welcoming environment to express and grow their 'Americanism'.

Africa might play a similar role as America played for Europe.

The most virulent chinese 'Americans' might grow and develop in Africa first, sending back the miracles of 'Americanism' later to China, as the 'Americans' did with Europe.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 13:02 | 2688086 LFMayor
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By chinese, you mean Hans, yes?  What about all those other provinces?  There used to be provinces with tall people.  Some were more brown than yellow tinted.  Some in the west are muslim.  And some used to be called Tibet.

No, not in the "chinese" makeup at all to ethnically cleanse. 

You're very inefficient, especially for a paid shill. Don't let your masters see that, or we'll have to start training yet another one here.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 13:55 | 2688248 earleflorida
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china will help the continent... having learned from western atrocities and despot exploitation:

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/aug/03/shell-liability-oil-sp...

etc., etc.,...

Tue, 09/04/2012 - 14:06 | 2761177 matrix2012
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For your reference so you may have better understanding of the modern China today :D

Family Portraits of all 56 ethnic groups in China

http://bit.ly/wKxsSS

This is a “Family Portrait” of China’s 56 ethnic groups. Chen Haiwen, a photographer, recently lead a team of 14 photographers to create a book entitled, “Harmonious China: A Sketch of China’s 56 Ethnicities.” The team spent one year travelling all over China to complete the project. They ended up taking over 5.7 million photographs.

 

CHINA: Portrait of a People

by Tom Carter

TRAVEL / PHOTOGRAPHY

http://www.blacksmithbooks.com/9789889979942.htm

China is in fact made up of 33 distinct regions populated by 56 ethnic groups – and American photojournalist Tom Carter has visited them all. This little book is a visual tribute to the People's Republic of China, with an ardent emphasis on the People.

 

SEE the Q & A between Carter and the publisher.

http://www.blacksmithbooks.com/China_portrait_Q&A.htm

 

 

 

 

 

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 13:30 | 2688213 post turtle saver
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Oh look, someone is feeling Chinese and inappropriately superior. You ever heard of the term "battleship mouth, rowboat ass"? That's China in a nutshell. You groveling vassals should be grateful that we invested in Africa so that the dollars we give you have a home to grow and improve your drab existence.

Put the keyboard down and get back to work before I send the Foxconn floggers after you. Those iProducts don't just make themselves, comrade.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 09:55 | 2687351 Fish Gone Bad
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Africa is a scary place full of nasty diseases and parasites.  In the 1800's, Africa killed something like 98% of the white people (Europeans) who went there.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:02 | 2687377 spartan117
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And why did they kill 98% of the white people there?

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:05 | 2687380 cossack55
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Because they were mostly Banksters and deserved it?

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:23 | 2687462 Short Memories
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2% were tourists! :)

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:15 | 2687938 AnAnonymous
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Africa is a place, a geographical place. It is not people.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 13:04 | 2688097 LFMayor
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Just like Tibet!

and Vietnam.  Well, almost, but then they handed your asses to you and that sort of fell apart.  Tough little sonsofbitches, aren't they?  Don't feel bad about it, we found out the same after the French and Japanese did as well.

Tue, 09/04/2012 - 14:33 | 2761297 matrix2012
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Mayor, since you're so fond of Tibet, it's advisable that you read following info:

-TIBET - A REALITY CHECK

http://bit.ly/v4Lorx

by N. RAM, a journalist from India's National Magazine from the publishers of THE HINDU

 

-CIA in TIBET

ABOUT THE PROJECT

Many have heard the rally cry "Free Tibet!", but few are aware of the past events that have shaped the Tibetan struggle against China's dominance. Exploring this little-known territory in a documentary currently in production, CIA in Tibet traces the hidden history of a secret CIA operation to back Tibet's fight for survival, one that lasted 16 years, to the rebellion that continues today. From CIA-supplied weapons, funding and training in guerrilla warfare to a conflicted Tibetan government and people under siege, the inner-workings behind the elusive mystery of both Tibet and the CIA uncover complex characters grappling with a history-changing geopolitical power struggle. The Dalai Lama, a central figure throughout, has been an icon of peace that has kept the Tibetan cause alive, but Tibet remains a political underdog facing overwhelming odds. How has CIA involvement in a Tibetan Buddhist world, a paradox in many ways, altered the course of Tibet's fate? 

Produced by the daughter of a former CIA officer on the Tibetan Task Force, unique access to first-hand accounts combine with rare and recently declassified archival media, recent events in the US and India, and diverse perspectives from noted scholars and leading activists. Following Tibet's unrelenting struggle against what has become the second-most powerful country on earth, the film raises challenging questions on the justification for violence, the cost of freedom, and the evolving roles the US, Tibet and China play in our world.

INTERVIEWED SO FAR

Former CIA Officers:

 

Clay Cathey

Case Officer for the Tibetan Task Force, 1958-1962. Operated out of Washington DC, and Calcutta, India.

John Greaney

Deputy Chief of the Tibetan Task Force, 1957-1961, in charge of communications at CIA headquarters.

Ken Knaus

Training Instructor at Camp Peary, VA and Camp Hale, CO, 1958-1961. Chief of the Tibetan Task Force, 1961-1965. Author of Orphans of the Cold War. 

Ray Starke

Training Instructor in radio communications at Camp Peary, VA and Camp Hale, CO, 1958-1960.

Bruce Walker

Case Officer and Training Instructor in Camp Hale, Colorado, and India, 1960-1968. The only CIA officer that spoke Tibetan.

MORE info: http://www.ciaintibet.com/about_project.php

Also here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmw5FIjDDBY

 

 

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:31 | 2687495 Dr. Engali
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There seems to be some sort of activity going on around that time, I just can't put my finger on it......oh yeah! the slave trade! You would think the people of Africa would welcome their overlords with open arms.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 09:55 | 2687353 mrktwtch2
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wasnt japan doing this in the late 1980's..how did that turn out..lol they bought the rockfellar center for 420 million in 1989 and dumped it 7 yrs later for 280 million..lol

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 09:57 | 2687358 Tyler Durden
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Was that the "rockfellar center" in Harare? Or in Djibouti?

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:06 | 2687383 i-dog
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You owe me a new keyboard! Damn coffee....

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:31 | 2687783 Nachdenken
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thought it was chow mein in your cup

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:06 | 2687384 Uncle Remus
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Patience.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:28 | 2687754 NotApplicable
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Bedrock, duh.

Yeee-abba-dabba-dooo!

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:58 | 2687881 RSloane
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Don't knock Djibouti. They make our infrastructure look great. Just don't look while your plane lands.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 09:56 | 2687354 LawsofPhysics
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Interesting.  The Chinese want the resources, no suprise.  The Chinese are now similar to Americans and are now wondering "what are all our resources doing under their soil?"

China and the U.S. elite have been on the same page for 30+ years folks, wake up.  This is why China was given unprecedented access to American markets to begin with.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:01 | 2687376 WhyDoesItHurtWh...
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Chinese Citizenism.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:14 | 2687415 BigJim
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It's eternal!

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:20 | 2687444 Dr. Engali
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You're sounding like AnAnonymous.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:25 | 2687473 WhyDoesItHurtWh...
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Ha ha ha ..........

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:02 | 2687650 akak
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It's just more Chinese blobbing-up.

Make me laugh!

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:18 | 2687949 AnAnonymous
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Chinese Citizenism.
_______________________

'Americans' should not be shy. They should shout out of their lungs their fathering of the great system.

It is not Chinese citizenism: it is 'Americanism'

Chinese are just copycats, they did not invent the bitz.

'Americans' did. And 'Americanism' is spreading in China.

'Americanism' is spreading all around the world.

1776, July,4th, the day when human beings were saved.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:41 | 2688022 WhyDoesItHurtWh...
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We were waiting for you to show up.  You must have been taking a roadside dump deposit near an empty city.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 16:49 | 2688955 akak
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Empty cities.

Fecally full roadsides.

Chinese Citizenism in action.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:09 | 2687399 tmosley
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That doesn't sound like the way they are thinking to me.  They are investing in their countries wihtout first destroying them.  Big difference.  This way MIGHT actually work.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:18 | 2687424 LawsofPhysics
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Maybe, but only if it improves things for the native population. How many Africans in the average Chinese city again?  Moreover, ever work with an international Chinese company?  I work with two, they don't hire anyone who isn't Chinese.  How's that gonna work in the long run again if the locals can't find work?

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:22 | 2687455 malikai
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If you take into context the language issue combined with the "Chinese" way of getting things done, it makes perfect sense why they hire the way they do.

Chinese people hire other Chinese people because they know how to get Chinese people to do the job.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:28 | 2687481 LawsofPhysics
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Still doesn't address the problem.  Remember we are talking about the real owners in both cases but it seems to me the "American" approach is kill the locals right up front while the "Chinese" approach is to let them die slowly through starvation.  To my knowledge, there is no EBT program in chinese culture (admittedly a good thing in my view as families fulfill that role).

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:46 | 2687578 malikai
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Remember how the Romans did it: "If you work with us, you live. If not, you can join our slaves, reclaim your worth in the games, or you can just die right here and now."

The Chinese have a different strategy. History will judge them (and us) accordingly.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:51 | 2687613 LawsofPhysics
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You better read this;

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/africa/120805/zambian-mi...

It would appear that you are correct, one wage for chinese labor, another wage for local labor.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:14 | 2687694 cosmictrainwreck
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am trying to follow your thesis here... Tmosley says "might work" then begin your caveats. OK - granted, the locals get fucked - that's a given. It's true everywhere, like USA, where the "locals" are anybody outside Wall Street. So, does it being "wrong" have any bearing on the reality that China will guarantee its own success, at whatever cost, leaving the dumbass "West" in the dust? Too soon to tell whether, on balance, infrastructure build-outs, semi-employment, etc are net plus for populace. I'd guess that a much bigger factor than Chinese malfeasance is the fucking local dictators. If they ever get a grip on that (and there are a few glimmers)......

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:18 | 2687719 LawsofPhysics
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I have no thesis other than humanity itself is simply a giant ponzi.  Hedge accordingly.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:32 | 2687501 Alea Iactaest
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The article was pretty straightforward: "These foreign investment projects are also a boon for Beijing, since China needs African resources to sustain its domestic economy, and the projects in Africa provide a destination for excess Chinese labor."

What part of "destination for excess Chinese labor" do you not understand?

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:35 | 2687800 Nachdenken
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the 1 in the 101 billion ?

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:18 | 2687950 Renewable Life
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It's called karmic Ironery!!!!!! The west enslaves the Chinese population to work for less then a dollar a day, slaving away making cheap shit we buy at Walmart, 30 years later the Chinese need energy and enslave the Africans to work for less then a yuan a day, producing all the resources they need to keep the Chinese population producing the cheap shit from Walmart!!!

Ain't neo-colonialism with a sprinkle of fascism great!!!!!!

The real question is, what are all the people in the west, going to do for jobs, in order to buy the cheap shit from Walmart forever????????

Duhhhhhhhh.......PRINT:)

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:13 | 2687674 Omen IV
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the chinese got it right - state control via communism of all systems and resources then export the system to control resources and deploy the excess population - a US corporation cannot take the financial / political /  expropriation  risks in africa - a government like china can and enforce their position

exporting productive systems weather rail or airports or agriculture with concessionary loans/ investment criteria and then take the hard resources via distribution contracts with fair value to the indiginous population is good strategic move for chinese nationalists coupled with 100 million chinese immigrants settled in africa- a small part of chinese population

in contrast - the usa sells military systems no one can afford for negative outcomes and then sends out the storm troopers to kill and maim them besides and  back at home to top it off they beat up and vilify  muslims while 60% + of africa is muslim - usa has NO status in africa after 60 years of diplomacy - even though the usa has the largest black immigrant population on the planet and should have taken africa by that liason alone and exported the productive with money for support

the usa system of free predatory enterprise unfettered - by national purpose and stated societal objectives outside of the military industrial complex is "bad business" and produces bad societal outcomes long term in usa and around the world

death to the usa capitalist system as we know it -  is necessary  - for the country to survive

the chinese will win this game - they have nationalist objectives, huge excess financial resources of excess dollars to deploy, power, people who are smart and on the same objective, cohesive decision process and long term planning objectives - the government can lose $100 billion of their three plus trillion in reserves and still win - the usa spends $1 trillion a year on CIA and DOD for ??? to win hearts and minds at home and abroad- where?

the usa has nothing comparable!

 

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:24 | 2687964 AnAnonymous
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a US corporation cannot take the financial / political / expropriation risks in africa

____________________________________

What are you talking about? US corporations have done that repeatedly. Check Congo for example. A US corp was behind the long war that happened in the 1995s.

The Chinese are late comers to the 'American' world party.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 13:31 | 2688217 Omen IV
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they had fed government insurance not corporation stand alone risk - EXIM financing  - but still has at risk component for natural resource oriented investments - with the exception of a few limited examples  there are no substantial infrastructure investments like a rail road /airport/ hospital /highways - by corps - chinese buy long term loyalty with these type of investments

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:17 | 2687426 Inibo E. Exibo
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Well apparenlty the Chinese are buying their resources back as opposed to killing all the wogs first and then taking them.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 09:57 | 2687357 Jason T
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to win 100 victories in 100 battles is not skill.  to have 1 victory without fighting is skill.  Sun Tzu

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:23 | 2687464 malikai
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+1000

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:23 | 2687467 Abitdodgie
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Yes "Sun Tzu" the chinese book of proverbs.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:26 | 2687747 Don Diego
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Those Chinese assets can be nationalized at any moment. In order to control effectively Africa you need boots on the ground like the French paratroopers and Marines deployed in several African countries or the threat of a fleet over your horizon like the US Navy. Maybe one day the Chinese will have a true blue water expeditionary navy, right now they don't.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:28 | 2687977 AnAnonymous
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But they are already boots on the ground: 'American' boots.

In order to prevent a chinese deployment on this continent, on the same ground as 'American' troops deployment, that is under the pretext of providing security to plundered assets, 'American' forces cant avoid providing security for the chinese investments.

It is the only way for the 'Americans' to avoid a chinese deployment in those areas.

So the 'Americans' will do the soldiering jobs. That or the Chinese will do it for themselves, endangering the 'American' dominant position as the plunderer in chief.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 09:57 | 2687359 Eclipse89
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Fuck spain we want uganda!

 

A chinese

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 09:58 | 2687361 azzhatter
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Chinese find someone as corrupt as they are, Goldman Sachs and African politicians

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 09:58 | 2687362 FranSix
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Think of it this way.  The Renminbi with its peg to the U.S. dollar has far too much available purchasing power which it would not otherwise have.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:16 | 2687425 BigJim
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The point of the peg is to keep the renminbi weak, ie, it reduces its purchasing power, making its exports more attractive by artificially suppressing the wages of HanBots like AnAnonymous.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:20 | 2687438 FranSix
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I would prefer to think contrarily that if the Renminbi were de-pegged, that it would not retain its purchasing power.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:35 | 2687517 BigJim
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Without the peg, the quantity of Renminbi would not have increased directly in line with the USD during all our QE. This was one of the 'currency war' tactics - to export inflation to any country pegging its currency to the USD.

ie, without the peg, the renminbi would be stronger in relation to the USD, giving the Chinese more purchasing power... but reducing the amount of USD earned through exports.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 09:59 | 2687367 vinu02
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Soon everything will be tagged as "Made in China" 

http://www.freefdawatchlist.com/

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:00 | 2687370 buzzsaw99
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Taking over the world with a measly $100B in clownbux? LMAO! The usa mic spends more than that every year on frappe machines. [/slight exageration]

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:03 | 2687378 duo
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Exactlly.  $100B is a dozen oil rigs off the coast of Nigeria.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:11 | 2687403 buzzsaw99
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Yeah, let's see how much the Iraq war cost. How many Chinese oil operations in Iraq that the usa made possible? How about usa oil bigs investment in Nigeria? Should we go down the list? This is laughable.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:18 | 2687432 BigJim
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You're conflating the interests of countries' elites with the countries themselves.

The Iraq war was an incredible success for the MIC, banks, and Israel-firsters.

The rest of us? Not so much.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:05 | 2687381 irie1029
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Big difference is Chinese know creating wealth takes work.  Many westerners are no longer willing to work and create they much rather manipulate to create faux value.  

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:20 | 2687442 post turtle saver
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"Wealth does not last beyond three generations" - Chinese proverb

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:24 | 2687470 Dr. Engali
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How many generations has it been since coming out of the last depression when the nation saw it's best days? We sure did blow it. Too bad that proverb is so accurate.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:06 | 2687385 caimen garou
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Been watching this go on for some time now,chinese building roads, schools, hospitals,and railways. doing everything they can to get at thoes african resources. chinese are better than the US at snatch and grab!

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:22 | 2687456 spartan117
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Oh the horror!  Building roads, schools, and hospitals.  They should instead be BOMBING hospitals, roads, schools, water treatment plants, etc.  Adopt some true US Citizenism. 

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:30 | 2687492 LawsofPhysics
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Serious question;  Are they employing locals to do so?  If not, simply more imperialism in a different package.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:33 | 2687508 spartan117
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Yes they are.  not exactly the best example, but here you go:

 

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/africa/120805/zambian-mi...

 

 

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:49 | 2687594 LawsofPhysics
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So the chinese pay other chinese a good wage while paying the locals a non-livable wage.  Was this really the example you meant to cite? 

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:02 | 2687663 spartan117
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You asked if the Chinese employ locals, and I gave you a perfect example that they do.  So now your argument has changed to whether the Chinese are fair in their payment of wages. 

It doesn't matter whether the firm is Chinese, Canadian, or Australian.  People will always want more.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/28/namibia-strike-idUSL5E7KS6KS20...

I'm sure your next question to me will be, "Ok, the Chinese do hire locals; the Chinese aren't the only ones having wage issues; but do the Chinese have beer Fridays?"

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:17 | 2687710 LawsofPhysics
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Not at all.  Think a bit deeper, the issue speaks more to the question of this being a Roman approach (you can "work" for us as a slave, take your chances in the games to earn your freedom or die right here and now) or is this a real free market approach?  My experience doing business in China has involved considerable palm-greasing.

Either way, personally I still see a giant ponzi.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:42 | 2687831 Nachdenken
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Think long as well.   What would happen when labour in Africa (a continent, different regional work attitudes) is organised and functions as labour in China (again averaging out regional differences). 

The Long March in Africa, write your book now.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:51 | 2687862 LawsofPhysics
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Indeed.  The chinese state is the ultimate ponzi master.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:29 | 2687763 Don Diego
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they do and surprise African and Chinese work habits are very different.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:30 | 2687986 AnAnonymous
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chinese are better than the US at snatch and grab!
______________________________

Woooo, if that was true, it would be known.

No one can outmatch 'Americans' at snatch and grab.

There are the 'Americans' and the others, gods and mere mortals.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 16:15 | 2688826 akak
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No one can outmatch 'Americans' at snatch and grab.

The Tibetans might tend to disagree, hypothetically at least, if they were not summarily executed by the Chinese Communist authorities for speaking their minds.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:06 | 2687388 The Wizard of Oz
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WORLD WAR III BITCHEZ!!!!!

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:07 | 2687392 lesterbegood
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Perhaps it's in their approach? Approaching countries with money and business plans for development works better than promises to pay and guns and bombs?

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:08 | 2687909 viahj
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i'm pretty sure that most of the $ will end up in very few African hands and China will plunder the resources and leave an ecological mess. 

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:09 | 2687395 torak
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This is like a slow motion game of RISK, with China about ready to dominate Asia, Africa, and South America and now posed to buy Europe as the distressed public and private assets are put up for sale.  World domination without the messiness of troops on the ground.  NATO should take a lesson.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:21 | 2687445 BigJim
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And all achieved through the power of the US dollar's reserve status, It's all pretty ironic, really.

But if they don't develop their armed forces NATO will do their best to take back influence by force.

The nature of US Citizenism, is, after all, eternal.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:32 | 2687989 AnAnonymous
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The nature of US Citizenism, is, after all, eternal.
__________________

Nope, US citizen nature is eternal. But hey, 'Americans' seem to have trouble with that distinction.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 13:43 | 2688272 TheFourthStooge-ing
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What the hell do you know about it, dingleberry?

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:32 | 2687500 Inibo E. Exibo
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Actually the game is called Go and the Chinese invented it.  Trying to beat them at is like trying to beat the Persians or the Russians at chess.  Oh, what, the US really is that stupid, isn't it?

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 16:19 | 2688834 akak
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Actually the game is called Go and the Chinese invented it.

Or, to give it its full name, "Go Shit on the Side of the Road".

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:38 | 2687536 mickeyman
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Remember that in Risk the best strategy is to take Australia first--which the Chinese have already largely done.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:50 | 2687605 Nage42
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Why just talk about it when you can play it instead!

 

http://www.conquerclub.com/public.php?mode=home

 

 

 

 

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:29 | 2687981 smiler03
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Or a downloadable free version

http://www.marioferrari.org/freeware/turborisk/turborisk.html

Another free play online version http://www.dominating12.com/

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:09 | 2687400 Tic tock
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Damn straight - white man civilization is one cold-bloodless exercise in inhumanity. I can hardly wait to usher in any alternative.  

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:22 | 2687454 BigJim
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Judging by how the various Chinese leaderships have treated their own people down the years, I'm sure it'll all be utterly utopian for the Africans.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:40 | 2687544 irie1029
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Chinese people are much better off and have much more freedom than we are led to believe.  You need to live there to understand  such.  Yes there are sociopathic companies and people but in general they are misrepresented as a whole.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:34 | 2687997 AnAnonymous
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Judging by how the various Chinese leaderships have treated their own people down the years, I'm sure it'll all be utterly utopian for the Africans.
_________________

The Chinese will have to up their game to match the 'American' efforts in Africa.

Will be a steel test to measure the spread of 'Americanism' in China.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:16 | 2687404 LeisureSmith
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Even African bees know that Hitlary Clinton is bad news. http://www.rt.com/news/hillary-clinton-bees-mawali-962/ No doubt out shilling for the biotec industry, the bees aint having none of it.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:11 | 2687406 Voltaire
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"Africa was pillaged, plundered, and in most places, left for dead. "  Complete and utter bullshit. Have everyone bought Marxist theory or what? The europeans abolished intra-african and arabic-african slave trade, built infrastructure - schools, roads, hospitals. Set in place administrative frame-work. 

Africas wealth has not dissapeared - it's very much still in the ground.  So please...stop the Marxist politically correct bullshit, will ya?

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:26 | 2687477 BigJim
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It was a mixture of both. Yes, the Europeans built roads and schools and hospitals... but chiefly because it would have been impossible to effectively loot Africa without partially colonising it first.

Instead of tribal societies occasionally warring with each other, they left behind utterly incohesive states where tribes use majoritarian democracy to loot each other.

Recognising imperialism for what it is has nothing to do with Marxism.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:19 | 2687559 Voltaire
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@Big Jim:  Loot? Are Africas commodities gone? They harbour the most rich reserves of natural ressources in the world. When the europeans came they found loose tribes without a clue about what was in the ground and less so what to do with it. The european colonization in africa was extremely short. Most parts were not colonized more than 20-30 years. Colonization is not the reason for Africas problems. Or how do you explain that the baltic countries, Poland or Finland that were all colonized by neighbouring people for centuries do not have the same chaotic and underdeveloped societies as african ones? We have to stop the bullshit man...and yes it's marxistic theory that profess this bullshit about "white man's guilt" etc

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:42 | 2688025 AnAnonymous
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Loot? Are Africas commodities gone? They harbour the most rich reserves of natural ressources in the world.

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A certain amount of it is gone, taken to US citizen nations.

The most rich reserves of natural ressources in the world? That must US citizen assessment to give ground to their infinite growth scam.

____________________
. Or how do you explain that the baltic countries, Poland or Finland that were all colonized by neighbouring people for centuries do not have the same chaotic and underdeveloped societies as african ones?
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They were colonized by neighbourhing countries at different times?

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 16:22 | 2688845 akak
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. Or how do you explain that the baltic countries, Poland or Finland that were all colonized by neighbouring people for centuries do not have the same chaotic and underdeveloped societies as african ones?
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They were colonized by neighbourhing countries at different times?

Are you asking a question, or speculating?  Or are you inventing some wild fantasy and laughably dumping it on us and claiming it to be the truth, such as your childish and grossly untruthful gibberings about how Americans somehow are responsible for the collapse of Easter Island society in the early 17th century?

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:49 | 2687601 Bicycle Repairman
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Ever read "Leopold's Ghost?"

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:43 | 2687834 Nachdenken
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Hi.  No.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:41 | 2687825 slewie the pi-rat
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i agree that stratfor is utter neocon bullshit here

but clickbait!  L0L!!!

the key to understanding africa, imo, is to look at the UN and try to understand that africa may well be "syria on steroids"

yup!  china is involved in syria, too, but the underlying dynamic is the "war on terror" against the "families" which represent the lineage of the koranic revelation and its interpretations "on the ground" thru history

these people are similar to "denominations" in christendom but there is one important difference and it is the binLaden one:  islam can be modernized but it cannot be "post-modernized" b/c the traditional aspects are just too strong and based not only on "theBook" but also on blood &  tribe/clan lineal heritage

as usual, stratfor is just a propwash for the neoCon approach of lying about the nature of the conflict while trying to "take down" the islamic leadership and their arab allies (the moQ comes to mind~~and the mutual support between him and someone like Omar al-Bashir - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia   who is coincidentally, from one of the KEY family lineages)

it isn't that stratfor doesn't know this, for pete's sake!  but their neoCon handlers want a different story:  of "atrocities" crimes against humanity" and "genocide"

might makes right?  that's the game we're seeing and people on zH might like to wake up and smell the coffee sometime soon:  bilary, israel, NATO,  et al do NOT want these "radical due to their traditions" core islamic families &/or their allies in political charge anywhere

as in theWest, the pols are frequently puppets for other interests, and in islam, religion is the biggest business, not oil

mohammedAli &  kareem abdul ja-bar are not chinese, BiCheZ!

can you smell the coffee now...?

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:11 | 2687407 Floodmaster
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Create instability and keep the population as poor and uneducated as possible. 

 

Oil nationalization -> In Venezuela the real GDP has nearly doubled in 5 years.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 13:42 | 2688263 spanish inquisition
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That is the job of the CIA advisors. Go in and destabilize, spread cash and drugs around, get em fighting each other.

If they were left alone, they might discover peace and develope their country without US "help". Can't let that happen.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:13 | 2687408 chistletoe
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I have known about this for quite some time.

 

In the USA it is considered the "moral" thing to do to send food and medicine to Africa to feed the children.  Of course, we also send guns, tanks, rocket launchers, and the like.

The result of these policies is first, to help more children survive and become adults, second, to bankrupt the farmers and other legitimate businesses, third, to bring more and more beggars into the cities, people who have nothing better to do than to make more babies.

Believe it or not, most Africans do not see these gifts as being very helpful.

 

The Chinese have been acting differently for quite some time.

First, they go there, themselves, they are not afraid to go, to live, to conduct business, to oversee projects.

They build roads.  They build schools.  They build railroads, They build factories, They drill for oil themselves and hire locals for help.  They live in the neighborhoods, some of them even intermarry.

The Chinese want trading partners, not beggars, and they act accordingly.

 

The westerners, the colonialists, who never really changed their tune, only the facade, already lost (read "The Dead Zone" by Dambisa Moya, an african woman who graduated from .... Harvard Business School and traded for .... Goldman Sachs, for awhile .....)

 

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:24 | 2687471 Bartanist
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Yes, the US sent disease, vaccines that inhibit intelligence and reproduction and guns through the IMF and then our corporations were buying up all of the assets until the power shift when it was decided to create out of thin air the "conflict" issue to boycott African metals and other raw materials.

The most resource rich area of the world is also the poorest. Over 10,000 people starve to death every day, most of them children, through the good works and intentions of Wall Street, London and the Western governments.

I don't know if governments in the west are so stupid or corrupt. I tend to think the latter ... but there is probably enough stupidity and ignorance to go around as well.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:43 | 2688029 AnAnonymous
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The most resource rich area of the world is also the poorest.

________________

Africa is rich the same way the Moon is rich when seeing from the Earth.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 13:51 | 2688294 TheFourthStooge-ing
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AnAnonymous displays rational thought the same way a moon rock displays rational thought when seeing from the earth.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:12 | 2687411 youngman
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South America too.....they are here...buying up commodities either by buying the company if they can...the land if they can...or just being a very good client.....they also thow in some apartments or some stadium for the politicians..to make them feel good..

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:24 | 2687466 i-dog
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... and no military bases on that map. Compare that with all the US military bases in and around the ME and the rest of the world.

The Chinese have always been traders and diplomats. The ZATO imperialists, not so much....

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:04 | 2687828 Oldrepublic
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On July 4th 1821, the future US President John Quincy Adams

made a speech in the US House of Representatives

http://millercenter.org/scripps/archive/speeches/detail/3484

she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.

She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.

She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.

She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.

She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom.

The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force....

She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit....

Wise words, our US empire will destroy our democracy at home

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:13 | 2687698 Landrew
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I work in Chile and I can't believe the increase of Chinese in the last two years alone! There is no energy in Chile to speak of so the raw (less value metals/agriculture) go back to China for the value added. 

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:14 | 2687417 flyme
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It's an age old Chinese strategy tact of investment, resource extraction, then quietly insert military minions to protect their interests. They have done for centuries. It's just now they're doing outside of Asia, too.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:56 | 2687873 AnAnonymous
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It's an age old Chinese strategy tact of investment, resource extraction, then quietly insert military minions to protect their interests. They have done for centuries. It's just now they're doing outside of Asia, too.
_________________________

Made me laugh. That strategy is the 'American' strategy. Everywhere the Chinese go, 'Americans' have gone first and have already employed this strategy before the Chinese.

Chinese are late comers to the 'American' world party.

The last time we had late comers to the 'American' world party, they were Germany and Japan, that decided to try harder to catch up with the rest of the 'American' world.

'Americanism' can spawn some destructive off spring.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:15 | 2687419 surfsup
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Lets not talk about northern European take overs of that contintent in the last couple centuries which had nations with incredible resources in the ground not even able to feed their own people.  An interesting point of fact was the early Spanish and Portuguese trade to Africa in areas where previously China had a history of making trade.  When the Spaniards arrived the people threw them parties as a reflection of their trade relationship with China assuming the Spaniards were the same -- yet the Spaniards took advantage of this ransacked.   Not saying new china is anything but a corporatist parasite but built upon similar moorings  -- but to be historically accurate, Africa has already undergone quite a pillage...   Not to mention the centuries of western inspired drug addiction of the Chinese...   Indeed the barbaric west calling the kettle black -- and indeed the new china regime appears more as a construct based on these same colonialist values as it too will seek unearned gains at the expense of commoners and perhaps to drug them into a stuppor so as to maintain that awe inspiring aristocratic vestige that the lowly people are merely a rabble that must be of lesser human capacity.    

Reflective Drivel 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:18 | 2687434 haskelslocal
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Like getting to Disneyland an hour before close and wondering where all the people have gone.

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