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Believe In A Return To The Gold Standard? You Are Now Officially An Extremist According To The FBI

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Just when we thought the US could not sink any further in its usurpation of civil rights, here comes the FBI to advise all those who tend to think that the broken economic model of the past century is the cause for the global insolvency, that wanton fiat diluation and reckless debt issuance does not 'fix' the problem of uber-leverage, and that the gold standard is the proper way to return to monetary stability, will henceforth be considered extremists. From Reuters: "Anti-government extremists opposed to taxes and regulations pose a growing threat to local law enforcement officers in the United States, the FBI warned on Monday. These extremists, sometimes known as "sovereign citizens," believe they can live outside any type of government authority, FBI agents said at a news conference." And the most epic line ever written: "The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard." So... the US did not go bankrupt by going off the gold standard? But why did the US "go bankrupt" then? We are confused.

Undesirable #1:

The insanity continues:

Routine encounters with police can turn violent "at the drop of a hat," said Stuart McArthur, deputy assistant director in the FBI's counterterrorism division.


"We thought it was important to increase the visibility of the threat with state and local law enforcement," he said.


In May 2010, two West Memphis, Arkansas, police officers were shot and killed in an argument that developed after they pulled over a "sovereign citizen" in traffic.


Last year, an extremist in Texas opened fire on a police officer during a traffic stop. The officer was not hit.


Legal convictions of such extremists, mostly for white-collar crimes such as fraud, have increased from 10 in 2009 to 18 each in 2010 and 2011, FBI agents said.


"We are being inundated right now with requests for training from state and local law enforcement on sovereign-related matters," said Casey Carty, an FBI supervisory special agent.


FBI agents said they do not have a tally of people who consider themselves "sovereign citizens." 


Sovereign members often express particular outrage at tax collection, putting Internal Revenue Service employees at risk.

Maybe it is not too late to be a beggar in Greece. At least there one is allowed to think anything as to why the country is completely broke and the population is living under "absolute poverty" without fear of being deemed a "sovereign citizen" and getting arrested at the drop of a hat.

And for those who still care about facts, below is a chart of global debt since the world formally and terminally went off the gold standard back on August 15, 1971:



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Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:16 | 2135421 kato
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IT (the Gold Standard) did not work out so well for Churchill when Keynes and others told him it would be a good idea to go back on it.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:18 | 2135430 BigMike
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Read Jim Rickard's book if you haven't already. 

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:24 | 2135459 trav7777
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Holy SHIT!!!!!!11

18 whole cases?  WTFZOMG.


Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:36 | 2135536 dwdollar
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Somewhere in that article is the claim that only about 100,000 people are in the "movement". Haha... Did BLS come up with that number? I seriously doubt there are under 1 million people who hold those beliefs. It's a larger number than any army the American Empire can muster... And that's why they're scared.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:42 | 2135590 Fukushima Sam
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I believe, and you can quote me on this, that the US went broke because they went off the gold standard.

Wait, who is that at my door?  Be right back...

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:44 | 2135604 Xibalba
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Ron Paul is a terrorist now?

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:54 | 2135656 MillionDollarBonus_
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Finally the FBI is cracking down on these dangerous lunatics. I mean, it’s quite astounding. These people openly call for this crazy shit in broad daylight, and they don’t get locked up? If these anti-government lunatics don’t like America, then they can just leave. Otherwise, they need to learn basic etiquette and conform to our society’s decent and wholesome values. 


Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:57 | 2135696 akak
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Otherwise, they need to learn basic etiquette and conform to our society’s decent and wholesome values.

At the risk of grossly mixing metaphors, you really jumped the shark and let the cat out of the bag with that line, TrillionDollarAnus.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:22 | 2135821 AldousHuxley
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Fed's marketing campaign


Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:27 | 2135845 JW n FL
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Eat the Rich!

The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. The stock may not be sold, traded, or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, 6 percent per year.

They have been eating You! and Yours!! for GENERATIONS!!!

Article I, Section 8, Clause 5, of the United States Constitution says

"Congress shall have the power to coin money and regulate the value thereof and of any foreign coins".

But that is not the case.

The United States government has no power to issue money, control the flow of money, or to even distribute it - that belongs to a private corporation registered in the State of Delaware - the Federal Reserve Bank.

Keiser Report: It's All Legal, Folks! (E246)

Uploaded by RussiaToday on Feb 7, 2012

In this episode, Max Keiser and co-host, Stacy Herbert, discuss the supercommittee that runs America, the perils of Draghi's "blitz" and the IMF turnaround on austerity for Greece. In the second half of the show, Max talks to Gonzalo Lira about austerity, printing and running.

KR on FB:

Signed, Christian Constitutionalist

P.S. Don't forget!! “See Something? Say Something!” and here is the link for you ---- >

DHS Home Grown Christians Trying to Protect the Constitution are now Terrorists Propaganda


Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:39 | 2135897 nicxios
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Max asked Gonzalo Lira if he thinks a police state is a possibility in the U.S., his reply:"It already is."

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:09 | 2136032 Comay Mierda
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Whoever writes that the truthtellers are terrorists is the real terrorist. Btw anyone see the hit piece in the constitution in the new york piece of shit times?

Tptb are planning the false flag attack of ALL false flag attacks. probably will look like operation blackjack (google it). Black jack = 21 and 2012 is 21 years after the NWO speech that Bush senior gave. better be prepared for the crack down

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:32 | 2136122 A Lunatic
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Sticks and stones Bitchez!!!

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:52 | 2136491 Temporalist
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Comay I read that article it basically stated that the rest of the world has left the US constitution in the dust because they are given more rights. I took it as the world has gone socialist and the last bastion of hope is the US constitution.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 23:56 | 2136784 FEDbuster
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Yep those crazy Ron Paul revolutionaries, time to build more FEMA camps.  Imagine a presidential candidate that thinks we can get rid of the income tax, return to a gold standard and end the FED?  Lock him up and throw away the keys. 

The war has begun, did you miss the starting gun?

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:34 | 2136854 Oh regional Indian
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Ron Paul, can't change a thing. Good man, but he's peddling reality.

But yes FEDB, the war has indeed begun.


War is Pornography, just a little different is all.


Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:58 | 2136908 JW n FL
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Ron Paul: The Coming Chaos

Uploaded by on Feb 7, 2012

Heed These Words!!

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 02:00 | 2136984 Teamtc321
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I am a huge Ron Paul supporter but this is all bull shit. No one is going to act or do shit till this pig boat hit's the wall. All crap, all talk, all hot air. Moron's sucking off the tit. There, said it for ya. 

Pussy's in office and we all know it. Print faster so this mfer blow's up will ya boy's? 


Wed, 02/08/2012 - 06:43 | 2137208 clymer
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"No one is going to act or do shit.. Pussy's in office and we all know it."

What, are you guessing? Funny that you think he actually makes any decisions. This old rock is controlled by a small handful of inbreds who plan on maintaining control of it.

we are getting closer to the edge of chaos every day.


Wed, 02/08/2012 - 07:59 | 2137258 GetZeeGold
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We're all catholics and terrorists now.


Over 800 comments......hope no one notices this.


It's time to take out the marxists.



Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:52 | 2136900 smiler03
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Now who is that ZH reader who keeps telling everybody to withhold their taxes?


Can I claim a $$$$$ reward if I grass on him?

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 20:09 | 2136224 NotApplicable
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Well, if that isn't the most bizarre thing.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:04 | 2136364 TruthInSunshine
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You are now all on our list.



Big Sis


p.s. - Compiling a list of those whom you know to possess gold, or anything used as an alternate currency to Federal Reserve Notes, if verified as accurate information, may result in leniency towards your ultimate disposition.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:24 | 2136422 economics1996
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MDB that was classic!

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:21 | 2136833 Oracle of Kypseli
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Check the definition of MDB in the urban dictionary


Wed, 02/08/2012 - 01:58 | 2136981 Money 4 Nothing
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Well, hurry up! my house is about to be foreclosed. Need a cot and 3 hot's as soon as you think you could pick me up please. TIA!

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 06:04 | 2137185 cossack55
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Is it a virtual list or did they really cut down trees to compile.  Al Gore is going to be soooooo pissed.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:45 | 2136474 natty light
Tue, 02/07/2012 - 23:47 | 2136770 jeff montanye
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she didn't diss it.  she spoke with respect about the first amendment.  she said there were more recent documents, e.g. the south african constitution, that might be better suited to egypt.  she noted that the u.s., although a young country vs. egypt, operated under the oldest still applicable written constitution in the world.  not a triumphalist jingo.  refreshing.  she also noted that only if the people acted to preserve their freedoms would a constitution matter.  ring a bell?

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 23:12 | 2136666 Barry Mcokiner
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March 6th is the 21st anniversary of the Bush NWO speach. Also happens to fall on a tuesday.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 01:50 | 2136971 Money 4 Nothing
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Tuesday's seem to be their havoc day's for some reason.

Study: 3, 7, 9, 11, 13 seems to be alot of multiples or dates they like too.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 23:57 | 2136744 xcehn
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   In a free society:

    • Police agencies respond only to evidence of planned and actual criminal activity.


    • Police officers keep the peace; they do not investigate citizens and activities unless there is some reason to investigate.


    • Police do not investigate citizens' attitudes toward the central government, only their action.


    • Citizen dissent is lawful and police agencies do not investigate citizens' attitudes toward the criminal justice apparatus.

 Those conditions no longer exist in the United States!

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 06:40 | 2137203 foofoojin
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When terrorism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the US Constitution and holding a Gold coin.

-foofoojin 2012

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:53 | 2135974 Michael
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Looks like the alphabet soup agencies are conducting psyops on us again just like MIAC report.

I like people with extreme passion. Extremists are sexy and intelligent. There, hows that for psyops.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:55 | 2135986 JW n FL
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those that have no heart and no soul.. are the ones who are easy to control.. good little sheeps!

soon enough they will push to far and even the sheep will BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA in Pain... and then when the stampede is going.. thats when it will be time to put in work!

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:35 | 2136128 Michael
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Government employees are becoming the extremists. Government employees need to relearn their place.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:50 | 2136174 whstlblwr
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Did y0u people read this, these freaks shot people. Ron Paul would not call himself soverign citizen. He follows rule of law.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:57 | 2136201 Randall Cabot
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Those two cops in Arkansas were a couple of hot dogs looking for attaboys from their NWO masters, they were Constitution violators pulling over and searching anyone that "looked suspicious"-probable cause was not in their vocabulary.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 20:06 | 2136214 whstlblwr
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Oh, okay, I get it. You disagree with me so I'll shoot you.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 20:19 | 2136256 nmewn
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Well, maybe, maybe not.

Some of us have very long memories...

"Ms. Napolitano insisted that the department was not planning on engaging in any form of ideological profiling.

“Let me be very clear: We monitor the risks of violent extremism taking root here in the United States. We don’t have the luxury of focusing our efforts on one group; we must protect the country from terrorism whether foreign or homegrown, and regardless of the ideology that motivates its violence,” Ms. Napolitano said.

“We are on the lookout for criminal and terrorist activity but we do not - nor will we ever - monitor ideology or political beliefs. We take seriously our responsibility to protect the civil rights and liberties of the American people, including subjecting our activities to rigorous oversight from numerous internal and external sources.”

Now, of course, there hasn't been any violence or terrorism from those "profiled" by Big Sis after the election...but that's not to say she isn't on the lookout for for a Gadsden Flag bumper sticker...ROTFLMAO!!!

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:19 | 2136408 JW n FL
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DHS Home Grown Christians Trying to Protect the Constitution are now Terrorists Propaganda


I could go on and on.

But I dont need to do anything like that with you.

My Best to You and Yours Fine Sir, JW

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:44 | 2136472 nmewn
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And to you my brutha.

It seems, the more power they amass the more paranoid they

Now this was funny, when you look at it sideways...from yours...


"(U//FOUO) Perceptions on Poverty and Radicalization

(U//FOUO) Scholars and experts disagree over poverty’s role in motivating violent radicalization or terrorist activity. High unemployment, however, has the potential to lead to alienation, thus increasing an individual’s susceptibility to extremist ideas. According to a 2007 study from the German Institute for Economic Research, there appears to be a strong association between a parent’s unemployment status and the formation of rightwing extremist beliefs in their children—specifically xenophobia and antidemocratic ideals."

?Somebody needs to inform the leftwing race baiters out there that they're actually..."rightwingers" ;-)

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:57 | 2136740 JW n FL
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Ron Paul: The Coming Chaos

Uploaded by on Feb 7, 2012

Heed These Words!!


how many white extremists are stupid enough to change thier behavior becuase of what someone else thinks of them?

I mean you can tear it apart in any way and make an arguement..

just like a chart.. I can make a chart say it is going to rain tomorrow and make us all rich.. or that the end of the world is coming.


but what I do know..

is that there are a LOT! of people, TPTB types.. that are spending a LOT of money and energy getting all of America wound up!

why do they want us at each others throats?

its the Jews! really? are you sure its not the WASP's that bank roll them?

its the poor niggers and mexicans?? really? dont they all work any job they can with a fake ID and pay all those SSI and with holdings that everyone else pays but they get NO! benefit ever!


it is always someone else.. and a LOT! of energy is being put into turning the world (our world) upside down.


sorry to get so far away from polite conversation.. but I needed to vent to someone with a brain.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 04:08 | 2137091 Jendrzejczyk
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".....and pay all those SSI and with holdings that everyone else pays but they get NO! benefit ever!."

That's going to be most of us soon.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 06:48 | 2137217 clymer
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Government, like fire is a fearful master and a dangerous servant.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:09 | 2136300 CH1
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Did y0u people read this, these freaks shot people.

I read that the FBI said these people shot other people.

I believe the FBI like I believe the mob.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 07:47 | 2137249 silverbullion
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Tue, 02/07/2012 - 20:08 | 2136223 benb
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Pinch me If I’m dreaming but didn’t a special agent of the FBI run the WTC 93’ bombing? Wasn’t Saalem Assad (The Former Eqyptian military officer/explosives expert that assembled the bomb and recruited the re-tards to place it). Wasn’t he paid a million bucks to shut his f-ing mouth and go away? That’s what the court records stated. I don’t know why that wasn’t reported on the corporate news…… No, the FBI is really going down the toilet. Pretty soon the rank and file (and there’s still a lot of good guys in the FBI) won’t even go for this crap.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 22:42 | 2136601 soccerballtux
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I'm new to this stuff can you post some links

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:08 | 2136807 jeff montanye
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the reference may be to emad salem.  i am not endorsing this report but the general idea certainly seems believable, given the zionist thirst for a u.s. run war in the middle east against israel's enemies.  google has plenty of hits with this name.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 12:23 | 2137066 benb
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You're right . It is Emad Salem. I'm just going from memory. And I read about this case many years ago.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 03:30 | 2137059 benb
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Here’s a good video explaining government involvement in WTC 93’ by Ralph Schoenman. At this link - At the fifth paragraph down - - DETAILS IN 15 MIN VIDEO of Schoenman

Also A good background video to view would by Alex Jones’ TERRORSTORM –

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:15 | 2136398 918pigpen
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Thanks for the PDF

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:01 | 2136794 JW n FL
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The MOST DANGEROUS! are the God Loving! Constitutional Ones!! WATCH THEM! CLOSE!! 


even more dangerous than the Christian Terrorists! 


thats right! the Commie Pinko ACLU! who fights for the Christian Terrorists Rights!


imagine they want Terrorists, just becuase they are Americans.. in America.. to have a Fair Trial! what the hell fur'??? 


you can read right there.. how Ismalist Extremists are the SAME as Christians with Guns and a copy of the Constitution! the Goobermint said so!


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"If You See Something, Say Something™"


If you see suspicious activity, please report it to your local police department. If you are experiencing an emergency, please call 911. More on the "If You See Something, Say Something™" campaign.


Immigration or Customs Violations


Report suspected immigration or customs violations to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).


· Report suspicious activity by calling 1-866-347-2423.


Cybersecurity Activity


· Report an Incident (US-CERT)


· Report Phishing (US-CERT)


· Report a Vulnerability (US-CERT)


Emergencies in Federal Buildings


Report life-threatening and non-life-threatening emergencies in federal buildings to Federal Protective Service (FPS).


· Report suspicious activity by calling 1-877-4FPS-411 (1-877-437-7411).


I reported all of ya's!

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:12 | 2136817 Hugh G Rection
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Eat the Rich!

I like my filet aged with a little marbling... but there is not enough garlic butter or tarter sauce in the world to make a George Soros steak palatable!

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:56 | 2136903 JW n FL
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Ron Paul: The Coming Chaos

Uploaded by on Feb 7, 2012

Heed These Words!!

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 01:49 | 2136969 NoClueSneaker
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barret ... :-P

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:30 | 2135853 spinone
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Yeah, its only funny if you arent real obvious.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 20:48 | 2136328 Hedgetard55
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Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:11 | 2135706 Pladizow
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time

             with the blood of patriots and tyrants"

                           - Thomas Jefferson

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:40 | 2135860 JW n FL
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I think if enough Patriots can stand together that the Tyrants would be the ones Mostly shedding Blood!


If You See Something, Film Something (Recording The Police is a Dangerous but Necessary Thing to Do)



White Paper

July 17, 2006

Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids in America

by Radley Balko

Radley Balko is a policy analyst specializing in civil liberties issues and is the author of the Cato study, "Back Door to Prohibition: The New War on Social Drinking."


Executive Summary


Americans have long maintained that a man's home is his castle and that he has the right to defend it from unlawful intruders. Unfortunately, that right may be disappearing. Over the last 25 years, America has seen a disturbing militarization of its civilian law enforcement, along with a dramatic and unsettling rise in the use of paramilitary police units (most commonly called Special Weapons and Tactics, or SWAT) for routine police work. The most common use of SWAT teams today is to serve narcotics warrants, usually with forced, unannounced entry into the home.

These increasingly frequent raids, 40,000 per year by one estimate, are needlessly subjecting nonviolent drug offenders, bystanders, and wrongly targeted civilians to the terror of having their homes invaded while they're sleeping, usually by teams of heavily armed paramilitary units dressed not as police officers but as soldiers. These raids bring unnecessary violence and provocation to nonviolent drug offenders, many of whom were guilty of only misdemeanors. The raids terrorize innocents when police mistakenly target the wrong residence. And they have resulted in dozens of needless deaths and injuries, not only of drug offenders, but also of police officers, children, bystanders, and innocent suspects.

This paper presents a history and overview of the issue of paramilitary drug raids, provides an extensive catalogue of abuses and mistaken raids, and offers recommendations for reform.

Botched Paramilitary Police Raids: An Interactive Map

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 22:57 | 2136617 Divine Wind
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"I think if enough Patriots can stand together that the Tyrants would be the ones Mostly shedding Blood!"


I like the thought but do not see it happening.

A large portion of the population is already so fucking brain dead and locked into the BS shown on television that they probably don't even give a hoot. In effect, they have already been pacified. A growing percentage of them can't even discuss the founding of the country, let alone do basic algebra or speak in complete sentences.

Those that DO know what is happening, and have the resources, have already prepared for a quiet egress, such as I.

Nope. Sorry Bitchez. I love my country, but not to the point of spending the rest of my life trying to return it to the Golden Days.

As a sovereign citizen who has no problem paying his taxes and recognizing authority, I also have no problem with loading the wife and kids on the boat and moving elsewhere.

Even if we toss the whole lot of them out, the gamed system remains.




Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:57 | 2136771 JW n FL
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Ron Paul: The Coming Chaos

Uploaded by on Feb 7, 2012

Heed These Words!!



they all have to go... God willing some nice people will make it happen and save the rest of us!


I see the oppurtunity for some.. when things get out of hand.. to see the Rich.. the people not on Forbes 400 list.. sent to Hell!


that would take care of "K" Street, the Lobby Whores (state and national level) as well as wall street.. all at once.


kill the roots.. and the rest of the weed will wither and die.


so! all you crazies!! when the shit gets crazy.. dont kill other poor people! find the ones that pull the strings! and cut the strings!


Thank You in Advance!



Wed, 02/08/2012 - 06:40 | 2137204 mushioov
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There's that "god" word again. Stop believing in fairy tales.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:06 | 2136022 Nigh Eve
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Wasn't it the Giants defense that said that?

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:12 | 2136047 Hey Assholes
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Government thugs - be afraid, be very afraid. Your time is coming. Keep oppressing us. The bell tolls for thee.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:43 | 2136465 weinerdog43
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I would add our friends at Blackwater, et al...  Corporations are where the money is, and money buys lots and lots of rental thugs.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 01:20 | 2136937 Cathartes Aura
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chameleon. . .

Academi is the latest colour

Academi[2]—previously known as Xe Services LLC, Blackwater USA and Blackwater Worldwide—is a private military company founded in 1997 by Erik Prince and Al Clark.[3][4] Academi is currently the largest of the U.S. State Department's three private security contractors. Academi provided diplomatic security services in Iraq to the United States federal government on a contractual basis.[1] Academi also has a research and development wing that was responsible for developing the Grizzly APC along with other military technology. The company's headquarters is located in Arlington County, Virginia.[5][6]

The Obama administration awarded Academi a $250 million contract to work for the U.S. State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency in Afghanistan.[7]

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 22:22 | 2136550 RiverRoad
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They watch us; we watch them back.  Their FBI/CIA spooks troll us; we troll 'em back.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:06 | 2135740 lasvegaspersona
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man you do stay 'in character'...private acting lessons, method acting/ Second City?/ free form improv???share!!!

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:42 | 2135916 JW n FL
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dont you have a Temple you should be walking too?

maybe some immigrants you should help over run anyone's Country but your own?


Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:59 | 2136203 Ahmeexnal
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Unless you are a full blood Seminole, you should best STFU pal.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 23:37 | 2136723 UGrev
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Aren't those the half assed indians?   ermm.. wait.. nvm. I'm thinking of the Semiholes.. :D

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:12 | 2136816 jeff montanye
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half ass u.  couldn't resist.  sorry.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:06 | 2135743 americanspirit
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Hey MDB - I think some people missed your invisible sarc tag, and also failed to notice your tongue in your cheek. Funny post!

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:51 | 2135961 Translational Lift
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I guess you have to post "SARC" for some of the slower reactionaries here.....

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:06 | 2135745 ebworthen
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Easy folks, MillionDollarBonus_ could very well be offering up a cold pate of sarcasm.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:32 | 2135871 Real Money Wins
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It's more likely MDB is an undercover agent for the FBI.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:26 | 2136101 drink or die
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The FBI agents are the ones out in the open calling for violence and rebellion (in order to catch the idiots)

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:21 | 2136413 DeadFred
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MDB is just a computerized psyops subroutine, you can tell by the lack of originality in his posts. Nothing there but 0s and 1s.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 09:52 | 2137480 Don Birnam
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Fred, you could have a point. Note how "it" never responds to comments or questions. That programming is not in the subroutine...yet.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:42 | 2136136 BoNeSxxx
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I think his sarcasm is well known among regular ZHers although, to my knowledge, he has never admitted to being the anti-PODS (i.e. a sharp contributor but with a sense of humor -- no offense PODS)

The scary thing is that his green/red arrow ratio is closing in on 50/50 which only signifies that intelligent people appreciate good humor -- even when perverted.  If the current trend continues, he will have a preponderance of up-arrows which is going to be damn confusing to the newbies (and gov't shills sent to see what all the fuss is about).

Stay tuned... gotta love MDB

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:57 | 2136202 nmewn
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He's dangerous, in my opinion...and when I take over as benevolent dictator for life, he will be one of the first to be locked up for abusing his free speech ;-)

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:33 | 2136441 pods
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Appreciate the (undeserved) compliment but I hope I bear no responsibility for MDB. I actually grow tired of the posts, as they seem to push everything off the first page (the replies, this one included).

The sarcasm is cute, but you catch more flies with honey.  And as a troll, MDB has no equal.  

A magician of sorts.  Like magic the conversation turns from something near and dear to my heart, to something of a mudfight.



Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:12 | 2135771 NumNutt
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Looks like it is time to start printing all those "Sovereign citizen" T-shirts and bumper stickers, What the FBI going to do when everyone on the street is seen as a enemy? Can't lock all of us up, guess they will need to start building castles.....

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:18 | 2135801 Zymurguy
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When you watch everything, you see nothing.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:48 | 2135946 Normalcy Bias
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That was the Achilles Heel of the East German Stasi. They collected so much information that they could only analyze a tiny fraction of it, so it became  effectively useless.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:23 | 2136090 koperniuk666
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like the DHS?

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 20:22 | 2136268 francis_sawyer
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Will Hunting had it right all along...


Tue, 02/07/2012 - 20:55 | 2136348 New World Chaos
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Hey pigs- I just saw something in the bedroom of a sovereign citizen, so now I will be a good little toady and say something:


Tue, 02/07/2012 - 23:18 | 2136675 A Lunatic
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You might be surprised to know how precious little intel on the masses they actually had. They did have a massive effectual PSYOPS campaign which led the masses to believe that they were being effectively monitored 24/7, when in reality only a fraction of the high profile "dissidents" were. The same shit is being pulled today........using certain words is now a flag......certain behaviors are now a flag. Certain purchases are now a flag. Certain actions/affiliations will get you smoked by a drone..............When a government feels the need to rule through threats and intimidation, punishable by death or disappearment, then it's fucking over. To live in fear of government reprisal for exercising Constitutionally guaranteed rights is bullshit. Maybe this time they really can know all/see all..........but I doubt it...and quite frankly don't really care as I do not exist at the pleasure or mercy of the State.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 07:43 | 2137248 unemployable
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You're all I can see ... !

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:36 | 2135881 Real Money Wins
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No thats FEMA's job using their rendition and detention centers and when those are full they'll just overcrowd the regular prisons some more.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:20 | 2135809 Moe Howard
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Next thing you know, these crazy people won't want to die for Israel anymore, they might even question why we want to go to war with Iran! Can't have that shit. They must be Paulbots.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:42 | 2135919 zerotohero
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FBI - Full Blown Idiots

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:53 | 2135981 smb12321
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What is most disturbing about many of these is their rampant anti-Americanism.  They hate all politicians, every president, cabinet position.  They hate the UN, FBI, CIA & FED.  They hate the military, the Superbowl, Jews & the stupid American people ("sheeple").  They hate all banks, Wall Street, the media, CNBC, economists and universities.  About the only things they seem to like are despots like Assad, Putin and that idiot in Iran. 

Many believe every evebt frin from the Battle of Hastings to the Syrian slaughter are simply the manipulation of a secret cabal.  And don't try disussion - all you get are obscenities, pitiful grammar and accusations of being either a "Sheeple" or (of couse) so dumb you can't see the grand conspiracy before your eyes. I love ZH for the stories and have learned to ignore the "posters".

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:18 | 2136065 CompassionateFascist
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"America" no longer exists. Just another Zionist colony, subject to all the same atrocities; see also: Palestine.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:22 | 2136416 smb12321
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Do you realize how loony this sounds?  I thought (because I thankfully never met those who spouted such stuff) that this kind of jabber went out with the Dark Ages.  But no, we're still blaming Jews on everything from our prolifigate spending to global warming.  Zionist colony?  Please take your meds.   And, oh yeah, Palestine is not a state today because of the objections of Jordan and Egypt who stole most of the orignal land after the '47 debacle. At any time, they could have declared themselves independent but for those two "friends".

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 22:07 | 2136521 Moe Howard
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You have a unique view of history in the middle east. One that is confusing mythology with reality.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 22:46 | 2136610 Dr. Thorndike
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Yeah it's too bad all the scapegoating of the big bad "Zionism". There is a vexing and unfortunate conflagration of the criminal syndicate-at-large with the political philosophy known as Zionism. This attention by (what The Daily Bell calls the "alternative") blogoshpere often to the point of obsession only muddies the message about the globalist agenda. I think you'll find some nuggets of wisdom on the matter of scapegoating Zionisms here: David Icke on Terrorism, 'Totalitarian Tiptoe' and the Coming Post-Industrial Technocracy  

In particular i'd call you attention attention to "The Daily Bell After Thoughts" reprinted below:

"David Icke can speak for himself, and if you read this interview, you'll see he does in great detail and with great passion. We will therefore take this opportunity to thank him for an extremely detailed interview and move on to another point, having to do specifically with "Zionism."

"We mentioned the word Zionism to Mr. Icke and received a complex answer having to do with how he uses the term Rothschild Zionism because he finds the word Zionism insufficient. This gives us the opportunity to re-emphasize a point we've been making for some time: What is taking place (in our view) is at root a criminal conspiracy, not areligious one.

One of the reasons that "normal" people are often so confused by what's going on is that those trying to expose what's taking place often continue to use the word Zionism, or even worse, Jewry, to describe the current situation.

"The current criminal conspiracy is evidently and obviously a medley of different organizations and groups. It includes corporate, military and religious entities, including the Vatican, which is not Jewish so far as we know. In fact, try to pin down who and what is a "Jew" and like Alice, one descends into a rabbit hole.

"There is plenty of controversy over Jewishness and whether or not most Jews are related to a tribe that CONVERTED to Judaism centuries ago. If this is the case, then the over-riding qualification for being Jewish is that one's mother, too, was Jewish. This, of course, only begs the question!

"Here is another way of figuring out what is going on. Strip away the central banking and financial elements of the conspiracy and see what you are left with. The New World Order, without its financial component, would rely on various kinds of promotional majik, Illuminism, New Age religion and a number of other spiritual practices and prophetic symbols. Would this be sufficient to drive forward the conspiracy to create a one-world government?

"To ask the question is to answer it. No.

"What is driving global governance is the multi-hundred-trillion-dollar purse of central banking, which those at the top of the one-world conspiracy seem to control. Without money (funding) and mercantilist strategies, the New World Order is nothing but a "pipe dream."

"Money is the "mother's milk" of conspiracy (to paraphrase an old chestnut). To pretend that the religious paraphernalia is paramount makes little sense to us. What matters is the money, and keeping it flowing. That's why, at its heart, the conspiracy is a criminal one that USES religion, black majik and other elements of human spirituality to confuse the issue. In aggregate, we'd argue, these are a kind fear-based promotion, a set of dominant social themes. They are akin to the Masonic symbolism used by NWO types.

We've called this a "signaling compulsion." The idea is to intimidate, but intimidation is not necessarily a belief structure. We don't believe the top people necessarily believe in Illumism or free-Masonry. They USE these elements much as they use the Jewish religion itself (and other religions as well).

These people PLAY with belief systems in our view. Even now they're setting up a war between Islam and the West. One can see the pieces of the puzzle being put into place. Religion is a tool for these people. To constantly harp on the idea that these people are OF religion seems to us a kind of naive perspective.

"It is also a confusing one. We've offered this exercise before. Try to explain the Italian mafia from a religious point of view. Tell people that ROMAN CATHOLICS engaged in the exploitation of Italian-American neighborhoods. Tell people that ROMAN CATHOLICS were responsible for intimidating small businessmen into paying protection money, etc.

"See how the explanation collapses? See how weird it gets? Now tell people that ORGANIZED CRIME was responsible for mid-20th century exploitation of Italian-Americans. Suddenly ... clarity!

"We can't stress it enough. By explaining that what is going on in the world is "Zionist," one perhaps opens the door to confusion. What is a Zionist? Why are Zionists doing these things? Who is an Illuminated one? Why are they using black majik to gain their goals? Etc.., etc.

"Strip away the mumbo-jumbo and one ends up with an impossibly wealthy group of people that hires within its cultural nexus just as the Italian mafia did (and does). This group works in concert with enablers and associates of all races and creeds, and from elements of Western military, religious and political groups.

"It's a big mafia. it uses the techniques of organized crime. It even has deniers around the world who, like J. Edgar Hoover did for the Italian mafia, maintain that it doesn't exist!

"But it does. The New World Order is a vast criminal conspiracy. In fact, those at the very top of this criminal conspiracy probably like nothing more than a good expose about how Jews are responsible for everything that is wrong with the world. Immediately, the individual or group involved is labeled "anti-Semitic." Case closed.

"We know it's not popular in the alternative media as it is currently constituted to make the point that what is taking place is multi-generational CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY. (We know even Mr. Icke may disagree with this.) But look ... the motivating force of the New World Order is MONEY not RELIGION. There are people and organizations involved from every part of the globe. That's how big it is.

"And that's why we should be clear. At the very heart of the current conspiracy, the driver is MONEY. Central bank, fiat/monopoly money. And what surrounds the extraordinary privilege of controlling this counterfeit global currency is murder, mayhem and malevolence. These are the attributes of sociopathic people intent on retaining their grip on power.

"Murder, mayhem and malevolence. The signifiers of organized crime."  - The Daily Bell

Read the whole interview it's very interesting

P.S. To @MDB nice meme trolling. Really.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:31 | 2136859 Hugh G Rection
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I'm not reading your cut and pasted rhetoric, but you better not blame us Jews for anything?

Have you forgotten about the HOLOCAUST!  Do we need to produce another multi million dollar Spielberg movie on the subject for you to grasp the importance of this event?

We poor jews have tried for thousands of years to live in peace with our goyim brothers, whom we love and respect deeply.  Hundreds of times we have been expelled for no good cause!

Some claim to have read our holy books, and misinterpret the meaning of passages such as:  

Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status

Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews

Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.


We humble Jews have nothing but the best intentions.  We comprise 2% of the population in America and 99% of the media, but that is only attributed to hard work and honest practices.  We control the most powerful lobby in DC, but that is attributed to the strong bond of faith between our Gentile brothers.  Accusations that we control banking/media/education and the political process are COMPLETLY unfounded.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 12:02 | 2138022 tired1
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Damed be You Sir! By what source do You deign to proffer such lies or obfuscations?

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 01:15 | 2136929 smiler03
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Quote anybody but David Icke. The man seriously thinks that the moon is a hollow alien spacecraft. 

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 01:17 | 2136933 akak
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After the aliens hollowed it out, what did they do with all the extra cheese?

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 01:30 | 2136952 Cathartes Aura
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zomg!!  it's Pizza Hut!!  they even stuff it in the CRUSTS!!!

PIZZA HUT is teh aliens - and it's amrkn's fave food!!!


Wed, 02/08/2012 - 01:32 | 2136955 Money 4 Nothing
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Good fuckin question.. Kraft? So that's where they got all that powdered cheese from. Job's on the Moon do exist!

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 02:21 | 2137004 Bay of Pigs
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Well, one thing is certain....when the mac n cheese runs out, we're all fucked.


Wed, 02/08/2012 - 01:29 | 2136951 Money 4 Nothing
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It's not? I thought that was the death star... Disappointed.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 03:56 | 2137080 Element
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I suspect David Icke is the result of a botched lobotomy.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 01:20 | 2136932 merizobeach
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smb12321: Hey there, USuckAss-ian, go pay some more taxes and support your wars, genocidalist assfuck.

And as for your anti-free-thinking/expressing opinions, I think Maynard said it best:


I can say what I want to,
even if I'm not serious.
I can say what I want to,
even if I'm not serious.
Things like....
'Go fuck yourself, go fuck yourself,
You piece of shit, why don't you just go, kill yourself!'
I said, I can say what I want to, even if I'm not serious.
I can say what I want to, even if I'm just kidding!"


As it happens, though, I'm not kidding.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:13 | 2136036 Xanadu_doo
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brilliant, crazy, funny shit as always (well, maybe not as always...). way to go, mdb.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:11 | 2136044 NumberNone
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Give me a fucking break.  The West Memphis incident involved a fucking nut job and his 16 year old son.  The 'Sovereign Citizen' had numerous previous run-ins with the law and was a known by law enforcement to be potentially violent.  Pretty broad brush the FBI is painting with. 

I also heard he liked country music and ate at McDonald's along with being a tax evader and defying government environmental regulations (whatever the fuck that means).  Holy Shit this country is overrun with 'Sovereign Citizens'!   

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:58 | 2136497 zoomer
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"and defying government environmental regulations (whatever the fuck that means)"


I kinda figured they were talking about taking a wizz behind the car door. Most sovereign citizens I know, do so routinely.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:26 | 2136098 CH1
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I sure hope the people voting MillionDollarBonus Up understand that it is heavy sarcasm.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:53 | 2136189 DarkStarDog
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ur funny. Wholesum values LOL seems more and more people aint as dumb as they look, and they are pissed. If Dr. Paul gets on the ballot he just might win if the elections werent rigged. S&P 400 here we come. Bawwaaaa haa haa benny u jack ass

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:59 | 2136503 Uncle Remus
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Finally the FBI is cracking down on these dangerous lunatics

Wait - Corizine went to jail? When did that happen?

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 22:02 | 2136508 cranky-old-geezer
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Otherwise, they need to learn basic etiquette and conform to our society’s decent and wholesome values.

What "decent and wholesome values"?  I can't think of any.

Was your father (or grandfather) a propaganda minister in Hitler's regime?

Do you wish you were one of Hitler's "brownshirts"?

Sounds like you're totally sold out to the government.  You think government can do no wrong.

How much are they paying you to troll ZeroHedge and make inflammatory comments?

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:55 | 2135679's picture

Ron is what he's always been. Something else has changed.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:13 | 2135774 Bay of Pigs
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Yeah, the ability to think. 

This is propaganda, brainwashing and misinformation on a whole new's beyond fuckan stupid.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:28 | 2136108 CH1
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Honestly, I think the media sycophants are worse now than I've ever seen before... and that includes a lot of years.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:17 | 2136061 Things that go bump
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Prioritizing who to round up first?

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 23:51 | 2136777 tickhound
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You guys need to shhhhhhhhh....

This is a olicepay tatesay, itchezbay.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 22:53 | 2136630 Sam Clemons
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China encourages citizens to own silver and gold, and the US calls you a terrorist for doing so.

What happened?  I thought we would all have to go to FEMA camps to have new brains installed, but it appears the brains and values have already been replaced for most of the populace and enforcers.

Just imagine them sitting around the table talking about this new terrorist label..."so wait, these people actually think that they aren't owned by the state?" Raucous laughter erupts.  Sounds like a conversation from the state planners in Atlas Shrugged.

"The Money that Is Sold Abroad Is You"

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 01:26 | 2136942 Money 4 Nothing
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I just watched your youtube video about "money that is sold abroad" and I just put 4 puzzle pieces together.

(1) Empty Chienese cities.

(2) Leaving the southern borders open and giving illegals a Federal ID card. Now counted as assets.

(3) It boosts GDP numbers all at the same time?

(4) Under NDAA S1867, you can be shipped to an overseas "detention camp" if declared enemy of the state because that's to whom you've been sold to?

Do I have this right?

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 05:30 | 2137157 New World Chaos
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I doubt the Chinese would build nice cities for us or even expect us to integrate at all.  They would sooner build detention camps where we could make cheap crap for the sheeple back home.  I figure the empty cities are preparation for a nuclear war.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:23 | 2136840 BunnyMunroe
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Except when he doesn't admit to writing his own wackadoddle newsletters???

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:23 | 2136841 BunnyMunroe
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Except when he doesn't admit to writing his own wackadoddle newsletters???

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:55 | 2135680 Richard Chesler
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The United States went off the gold standard by going bankrupt.



Tue, 02/07/2012 - 23:41 | 2136738 Matt
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If the USA was still on the gold standard, either:

1) there would be 40 paper gold ounces for every physical one, and climbing, or

2) all of the physical gold would have been redeemed and there would be none left, or

3) They would have had, instead of debt ceiling hikes, readjustments of the price of gold, each time they needed more money, or

4) something else I havent thought off.

Fundamentally, America went insolvent the same way as everyone else: by spending more than they brought in revenue for an extended period, at an accelerating rate.

Holy crap, even Australia, while having a net debt of ~14%, has a gross external national debt of ~74%. Its like CDS accounting, if it all nets out, it's fine, right?

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 03:57 | 2137084 AnAnonymous
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Certainly. The gold standard tale is cherised by US citizen apologists of the fabled past.

Hard or fiat currency, it does not matter. US citizenism is the key.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:56 | 2135685 AldousHuxley
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If Ron Paul was a president of another country leading the efforts to put the gold standard back and move away from a dollar, yes US would deem him a terrorist and send him troops to kill him off.


Wikipedia (

In 1986, 2000, and the months prior to the 2011 Libyan civil war, Gaddafi announced plans for a unified African gold dinar currency, to challenge the dominance of the US dollar and Euro currencies. The African dinar would have been measured directly in terms of gold, which would mean a country’s wealth would depend on how much gold it had rather than how many dollars it traded, allowing a greater sharing of the wealth and self-determination in Africa. This has led some Africans to believe that, because it may have disrupted the dollar-dominated world economy, this may have been a reason for NATO's 2011 military intervention in Libya against Gaddafi


Saddam tried to move away from dollar to Euro and got killed


Iran trying to move away from dollar and US is trying to kill the country too


It is all about money....more importantly the control over currency of exchange.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:25 | 2135825 BoNeSxxx
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You don't have to leave our own shores for examples of this AlHux... (as you well know).

Lincoln, Kennedy,... they both tried it and met with similar ends.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 20:27 | 2136275 Pants McPants
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Lincoln?  I'd like to see a reference!

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:22 | 2136417 pods
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"The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. The banking powers are more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. They denounce as public enemies all who question their methods or throw light upon their crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe."

Abraham Lincoln

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:47 | 2136478 TruthInSunshine
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Abraham Lincoln and his Treasury Secretary, Salmon P. Chase (Chase Bank later named after him) went to the New York bankers "and applied for loans to the Government to carry on the [Civil] war; the bankers replying, 'Well, war is a hazardous business, but we can let you have it [the loans] at from 24 percent to 36 percent.'" (Dr. R.E. Search)

Appleton Cyclopedia (1861), page 296, states: "The money kings wanted 24 percent to 36 percent interest for loans to our government to conduct the Civil War." (qtd. in Search's book)

President Lincoln and Secretary Chase were outraged at the usurious interest, and refused the offer.

Lincoln wrote to an old friend, Colonel Dick Taylor in Chicago, and asked for advice. His friend told him to "get Congress to pass a bill authorizing the printing of full legal tender treasury notes or greenbacks." (qtd. in Search's book)

60 million dollars of full legal tender greenbacks were issued. "All were taken at par and never appreciably fell below par at any time..." (Dr. R.E. Search)

Lincoln referred to these greenbacks as "the greatest blessing the people of this Republic [have] ever had." (qtd. in Search's book)

But as soon as Lincoln began issuing the greenbacks, "the bankers and money changers saw that unless they could stop that sort of thing they were 'sunk' as far as ever being able to issue money again themselves." (Dr. R.E. Search)

The banksters "had been able to fool and hoodwink England, and keep her in bondage for 168 years, and they wanted very much to continue, and to add the balance of the world to their conquest; making the people everywhere economic serfs, working for them." (ibid.)

From the London Times:

If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks]... should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of the world. The brains and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That government must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe. [qtd. in Search's book]

The Bank of England/Rothschilds (do not be deceived by name, "Bank of England"; Bank of England was/is a private bank) issued, and distributed to American banksters, the following document, quoted in part below:

The Hazard Circular

Slavery is likely to be abolished by the war power, and chattel slavery abolished. This, I and my European friends are in favor of, for slavery is but the owning of labor, and carries with it the care of labor, while the European plan, led on by England, is that capital shall control labor by controlling wages.

The great debt that capitalists will see to it is made out of the [Civil] war must be used to control the value of money. To accomplish this, the Government bonds must be used as a banking basis.

We are now waiting for the Secretary of the Treasury of the United States to make this recommendation. It will not do to allow greenbacks, as they are called, to circulate as money any length of time, as we cannot control that, but we can control the bonds and through them the bank issues. [qtd. in Dr. Search's book]

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 22:16 | 2136542 BoNeSxxx
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Thank you to PODS and TIS for carrying my water...

I would have added the citations had I not been otherwise occupied.

That said, I would not have been nearly as thorough nor as eloquent.

Tip o' the hat gentlemen.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 03:36 | 2137065 Nobody For President
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Ask for a reference in this place, and you get a god damn Reference! Most excellent work PODS and TIS.



Wed, 02/08/2012 - 16:48 | 2139140 downrodeo
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they have plausable deniability when it comes to this, but the more you think about it the more it seems a bit too coincidental. When you line that up next to EO 11110 (which, of course, has been fully 'discredited' as having any causal link to JFK getting popped) and the attempt on Andrew Jackson's life, something resembling a pattern appears to emerge. Naw, nevermind, that must just be my imagination...

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:33 | 2135869 spinone
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It is all about money....more importantly the control over currency of exchange settlement for oil.


There, fixed it for you.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:59 | 2136183 Randall Cabot
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I just heard that jew supremacist Michael Weiner trashing Ron Paul, calling him a Chamberlain and a Lindberg. Actually, being compared to Neville Chamberlain and Charles Lindberg is a good thing for anyone who knows history but weenie boy's followers are either fellow jew supremacists or FUBARed goys.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 14:46 | 2138699 Hugh G Rection
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Ron Paul is probably a HOLOCAUST denier. 

He wants to go after our Federal Reserve???  Hasn't he seen the Zapruder film?  We committed a financial coup in 1913, and a political coup on 9/11/01.

Non of you bloviating Goy trash can stop the Jew World Order.  Our Holy Books state the purpose of a Gentile is to serve a Jew.  You will be much happier in life when you accept your fate.


Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:23 | 2136421 SillySalesmanQu...
Tue, 02/07/2012 - 23:03 | 2136652 lakecity55
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Yep. Ol' Barry is cleaning his .308 right now.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 01:51 | 2136973 darkpool2
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Terrorists for POTUS

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 03:36 | 2137067 Tompooz
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Time for ZH to go underground.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:01 | 2135719 Barbarians_R_Us
Barbarians_R_Us's picture you won't.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:53 | 2135980 Franktastic
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should  the government  drones  side with the trayants they  will be marched to the guillotines right along with them, either they are with the 99% or they are against  us.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:04 | 2136015 Nigh Eve
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"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation...."

Radical, indeed.

Someone should arrest whoever wrote such a treasonous statement.

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