Believe In A Return To The Gold Standard? You Are Now Officially An Extremist According To The FBI

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Just when we thought the US could not sink any further in its usurpation of civil rights, here comes the FBI to advise all those who tend to think that the broken economic model of the past century is the cause for the global insolvency, that wanton fiat diluation and reckless debt issuance does not 'fix' the problem of uber-leverage, and that the gold standard is the proper way to return to monetary stability, will henceforth be considered extremists. From Reuters: "Anti-government extremists opposed to taxes and regulations pose a growing threat to local law enforcement officers in the United States, the FBI warned on Monday. These extremists, sometimes known as "sovereign citizens," believe they can live outside any type of government authority, FBI agents said at a news conference." And the most epic line ever written: "The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard." So... the US did not go bankrupt by going off the gold standard? But why did the US "go bankrupt" then? We are confused.

Undesirable #1:

The insanity continues:

Routine encounters with police can turn violent "at the drop of a hat," said Stuart McArthur, deputy assistant director in the FBI's counterterrorism division.


"We thought it was important to increase the visibility of the threat with state and local law enforcement," he said.


In May 2010, two West Memphis, Arkansas, police officers were shot and killed in an argument that developed after they pulled over a "sovereign citizen" in traffic.


Last year, an extremist in Texas opened fire on a police officer during a traffic stop. The officer was not hit.


Legal convictions of such extremists, mostly for white-collar crimes such as fraud, have increased from 10 in 2009 to 18 each in 2010 and 2011, FBI agents said.


"We are being inundated right now with requests for training from state and local law enforcement on sovereign-related matters," said Casey Carty, an FBI supervisory special agent.


FBI agents said they do not have a tally of people who consider themselves "sovereign citizens." 


Sovereign members often express particular outrage at tax collection, putting Internal Revenue Service employees at risk.

Maybe it is not too late to be a beggar in Greece. At least there one is allowed to think anything as to why the country is completely broke and the population is living under "absolute poverty" without fear of being deemed a "sovereign citizen" and getting arrested at the drop of a hat.

And for those who still care about facts, below is a chart of global debt since the world formally and terminally went off the gold standard back on August 15, 1971:


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Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:16 | 2135421 kato
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IT (the Gold Standard) did not work out so well for Churchill when Keynes and others told him it would be a good idea to go back on it.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:18 | 2135430 BigMike
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Read Jim Rickard's book if you haven't already. 

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:24 | 2135459 trav7777
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Holy SHIT!!!!!!11

18 whole cases?  WTFZOMG.


Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:36 | 2135536 dwdollar
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Somewhere in that article is the claim that only about 100,000 people are in the "movement". Haha... Did BLS come up with that number? I seriously doubt there are under 1 million people who hold those beliefs. It's a larger number than any army the American Empire can muster... And that's why they're scared.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:42 | 2135590 Fukushima Sam
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I believe, and you can quote me on this, that the US went broke because they went off the gold standard.

Wait, who is that at my door?  Be right back...

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:44 | 2135604 Xibalba
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Ron Paul is a terrorist now?

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:54 | 2135656 MillionDollarBonus_
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Finally the FBI is cracking down on these dangerous lunatics. I mean, it’s quite astounding. These people openly call for this crazy shit in broad daylight, and they don’t get locked up? If these anti-government lunatics don’t like America, then they can just leave. Otherwise, they need to learn basic etiquette and conform to our society’s decent and wholesome values. 


Tue, 02/07/2012 - 17:57 | 2135696 akak
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Otherwise, they need to learn basic etiquette and conform to our society’s decent and wholesome values.

At the risk of grossly mixing metaphors, you really jumped the shark and let the cat out of the bag with that line, TrillionDollarAnus.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:22 | 2135821 AldousHuxley
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Fed's marketing campaign


Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:27 | 2135845 JW n FL
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Eat the Rich!

The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. The stock may not be sold, traded, or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, 6 percent per year.

They have been eating You! and Yours!! for GENERATIONS!!!

Article I, Section 8, Clause 5, of the United States Constitution says

"Congress shall have the power to coin money and regulate the value thereof and of any foreign coins".

But that is not the case.

The United States government has no power to issue money, control the flow of money, or to even distribute it - that belongs to a private corporation registered in the State of Delaware - the Federal Reserve Bank.

Keiser Report: It's All Legal, Folks! (E246)

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In this episode, Max Keiser and co-host, Stacy Herbert, discuss the supercommittee that runs America, the perils of Draghi's "blitz" and the IMF turnaround on austerity for Greece. In the second half of the show, Max talks to Gonzalo Lira about austerity, printing and running.

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Signed, Christian Constitutionalist

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DHS Home Grown Christians Trying to Protect the Constitution are now Terrorists Propaganda


Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:39 | 2135897 nicxios
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Max asked Gonzalo Lira if he thinks a police state is a possibility in the U.S., his reply:"It already is."

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:09 | 2136032 Comay Mierda
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Whoever writes that the truthtellers are terrorists is the real terrorist. Btw anyone see the hit piece in the constitution in the new york piece of shit times?

Tptb are planning the false flag attack of ALL false flag attacks. probably will look like operation blackjack (google it). Black jack = 21 and 2012 is 21 years after the NWO speech that Bush senior gave. better be prepared for the crack down

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:32 | 2136122 A Lunatic
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Sticks and stones Bitchez!!!

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:52 | 2136491 Temporalist
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Comay I read that article it basically stated that the rest of the world has left the US constitution in the dust because they are given more rights. I took it as the world has gone socialist and the last bastion of hope is the US constitution.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 23:56 | 2136784 FEDbuster
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Yep those crazy Ron Paul revolutionaries, time to build more FEMA camps.  Imagine a presidential candidate that thinks we can get rid of the income tax, return to a gold standard and end the FED?  Lock him up and throw away the keys. 

The war has begun, did you miss the starting gun?

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:34 | 2136854 Oh regional Indian
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Ron Paul, can't change a thing. Good man, but he's peddling reality.

But yes FEDB, the war has indeed begun.


War is Pornography, just a little different is all.


Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:58 | 2136908 JW n FL
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Ron Paul: The Coming Chaos

Uploaded by on Feb 7, 2012

Heed These Words!!

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 02:00 | 2136984 Teamtc321
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I am a huge Ron Paul supporter but this is all bull shit. No one is going to act or do shit till this pig boat hit's the wall. All crap, all talk, all hot air. Moron's sucking off the tit. There, said it for ya. 

Pussy's in office and we all know it. Print faster so this mfer blow's up will ya boy's? 


Wed, 02/08/2012 - 06:43 | 2137208 clymer
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"No one is going to act or do shit.. Pussy's in office and we all know it."

What, are you guessing? Funny that you think he actually makes any decisions. This old rock is controlled by a small handful of inbreds who plan on maintaining control of it.

we are getting closer to the edge of chaos every day.


Wed, 02/08/2012 - 07:59 | 2137258 GetZeeGold
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We're all catholics and terrorists now.


Over 800 comments......hope no one notices this.


It's time to take out the marxists.



Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:52 | 2136900 smiler03
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Now who is that ZH reader who keeps telling everybody to withhold their taxes?


Can I claim a $$$$$ reward if I grass on him?

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 20:09 | 2136224 NotApplicable
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Well, if that isn't the most bizarre thing.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:04 | 2136364 TruthInSunshine
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You are now all on our list.



Big Sis


p.s. - Compiling a list of those whom you know to possess gold, or anything used as an alternate currency to Federal Reserve Notes, if verified as accurate information, may result in leniency towards your ultimate disposition.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:24 | 2136422 economics1996
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MDB that was classic!

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:21 | 2136833 Oracle of Kypseli
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Check the definition of MDB in the urban dictionary


Wed, 02/08/2012 - 01:58 | 2136981 Money 4 Nothing
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Well, hurry up! my house is about to be foreclosed. Need a cot and 3 hot's as soon as you think you could pick me up please. TIA!

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 06:04 | 2137185 cossack55
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Is it a virtual list or did they really cut down trees to compile.  Al Gore is going to be soooooo pissed.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:45 | 2136474 natty light
Tue, 02/07/2012 - 23:47 | 2136770 jeff montanye
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she didn't diss it.  she spoke with respect about the first amendment.  she said there were more recent documents, e.g. the south african constitution, that might be better suited to egypt.  she noted that the u.s., although a young country vs. egypt, operated under the oldest still applicable written constitution in the world.  not a triumphalist jingo.  refreshing.  she also noted that only if the people acted to preserve their freedoms would a constitution matter.  ring a bell?

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 23:12 | 2136666 Barry Mcokiner
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March 6th is the 21st anniversary of the Bush NWO speach. Also happens to fall on a tuesday.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 01:50 | 2136971 Money 4 Nothing
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Tuesday's seem to be their havoc day's for some reason.

Study: 3, 7, 9, 11, 13 seems to be alot of multiples or dates they like too.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 23:57 | 2136744 xcehn
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   In a free society:

    • Police agencies respond only to evidence of planned and actual criminal activity.


    • Police officers keep the peace; they do not investigate citizens and activities unless there is some reason to investigate.


    • Police do not investigate citizens' attitudes toward the central government, only their action.


    • Citizen dissent is lawful and police agencies do not investigate citizens' attitudes toward the criminal justice apparatus.

 Those conditions no longer exist in the United States!

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 06:40 | 2137203 foofoojin
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When terrorism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the US Constitution and holding a Gold coin.

-foofoojin 2012

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:53 | 2135974 Michael
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Looks like the alphabet soup agencies are conducting psyops on us again just like MIAC report.

I like people with extreme passion. Extremists are sexy and intelligent. There, hows that for psyops.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 18:55 | 2135986 JW n FL
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those that have no heart and no soul.. are the ones who are easy to control.. good little sheeps!

soon enough they will push to far and even the sheep will BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA in Pain... and then when the stampede is going.. thats when it will be time to put in work!

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:35 | 2136128 Michael
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Government employees are becoming the extremists. Government employees need to relearn their place.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:50 | 2136174 whstlblwr
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Did y0u people read this, these freaks shot people. Ron Paul would not call himself soverign citizen. He follows rule of law.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 19:57 | 2136201 Randall Cabot
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Those two cops in Arkansas were a couple of hot dogs looking for attaboys from their NWO masters, they were Constitution violators pulling over and searching anyone that "looked suspicious"-probable cause was not in their vocabulary.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 20:06 | 2136214 whstlblwr
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Oh, okay, I get it. You disagree with me so I'll shoot you.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 20:19 | 2136256 nmewn
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Well, maybe, maybe not.

Some of us have very long memories...

"Ms. Napolitano insisted that the department was not planning on engaging in any form of ideological profiling.

“Let me be very clear: We monitor the risks of violent extremism taking root here in the United States. We don’t have the luxury of focusing our efforts on one group; we must protect the country from terrorism whether foreign or homegrown, and regardless of the ideology that motivates its violence,” Ms. Napolitano said.

“We are on the lookout for criminal and terrorist activity but we do not - nor will we ever - monitor ideology or political beliefs. We take seriously our responsibility to protect the civil rights and liberties of the American people, including subjecting our activities to rigorous oversight from numerous internal and external sources.”

Now, of course, there hasn't been any violence or terrorism from those "profiled" by Big Sis after the election...but that's not to say she isn't on the lookout for for a Gadsden Flag bumper sticker...ROTFLMAO!!!

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:19 | 2136408 JW n FL
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DHS Home Grown Christians Trying to Protect the Constitution are now Terrorists Propaganda


I could go on and on.

But I dont need to do anything like that with you.

My Best to You and Yours Fine Sir, JW

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:44 | 2136472 nmewn
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And to you my brutha.

It seems, the more power they amass the more paranoid they

Now this was funny, when you look at it sideways...from yours...


"(U//FOUO) Perceptions on Poverty and Radicalization

(U//FOUO) Scholars and experts disagree over poverty’s role in motivating violent radicalization or terrorist activity. High unemployment, however, has the potential to lead to alienation, thus increasing an individual’s susceptibility to extremist ideas. According to a 2007 study from the German Institute for Economic Research, there appears to be a strong association between a parent’s unemployment status and the formation of rightwing extremist beliefs in their children—specifically xenophobia and antidemocratic ideals."

?Somebody needs to inform the leftwing race baiters out there that they're actually..."rightwingers" ;-)

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:57 | 2136740 JW n FL
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Ron Paul: The Coming Chaos

Uploaded by on Feb 7, 2012

Heed These Words!!


how many white extremists are stupid enough to change thier behavior becuase of what someone else thinks of them?

I mean you can tear it apart in any way and make an arguement..

just like a chart.. I can make a chart say it is going to rain tomorrow and make us all rich.. or that the end of the world is coming.


but what I do know..

is that there are a LOT! of people, TPTB types.. that are spending a LOT of money and energy getting all of America wound up!

why do they want us at each others throats?

its the Jews! really? are you sure its not the WASP's that bank roll them?

its the poor niggers and mexicans?? really? dont they all work any job they can with a fake ID and pay all those SSI and with holdings that everyone else pays but they get NO! benefit ever!


it is always someone else.. and a LOT! of energy is being put into turning the world (our world) upside down.


sorry to get so far away from polite conversation.. but I needed to vent to someone with a brain.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 04:08 | 2137091 Jendrzejczyk
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".....and pay all those SSI and with holdings that everyone else pays but they get NO! benefit ever!."

That's going to be most of us soon.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 06:48 | 2137217 clymer
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Government, like fire is a fearful master and a dangerous servant.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 21:09 | 2136300 CH1
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Did y0u people read this, these freaks shot people.

I read that the FBI said these people shot other people.

I believe the FBI like I believe the mob.

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 07:47 | 2137249 silverbullion
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Tue, 02/07/2012 - 20:08 | 2136223 benb
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Pinch me If I’m dreaming but didn’t a special agent of the FBI run the WTC 93’ bombing? Wasn’t Saalem Assad (The Former Eqyptian military officer/explosives expert that assembled the bomb and recruited the re-tards to place it). Wasn’t he paid a million bucks to shut his f-ing mouth and go away? That’s what the court records stated. I don’t know why that wasn’t reported on the corporate news…… No, the FBI is really going down the toilet. Pretty soon the rank and file (and there’s still a lot of good guys in the FBI) won’t even go for this crap.

Tue, 02/07/2012 - 22:42 | 2136601 soccerballtux
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I'm new to this stuff can you post some links

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 00:08 | 2136807 jeff montanye
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the reference may be to emad salem.  i am not endorsing this report but the general idea certainly seems believable, given the zionist thirst for a u.s. run war in the middle east against israel's enemies.  google has plenty of hits with this name.

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