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"As such we doubt much if anything will come out of this," In this you err. Germans have political and moral convictions and are brave. They also hate disorder so I wouldn't look for mass riots just yet but they will fix the situation.
This is way better then plundering shops at least.
They are scaring the 'right people' with expensive car burnings instead of bankrupting random store owners.
Please, not scary. Burn my car, that is what insurance is for. Great, get newer model....
...Except when you can't get insurance the second time around.
Um, yeah, insurance... biggest money losing business on the face of the earth...
A new car "loses 50% of it's value as soon as you drive it off the lot," or so they say... If they have a buy 2, get 1 free special, maybe it's not so bad.
But premiums go up, and maybe they decide on "a replacement of equal or superior value" and they move you up a grade to a car that always smells like kebabs, except for driving on the autobahn, when it starts to smell like the previous owner had a bunsen burner filled with astroglide for a car "freshener."
Germans aren't stupid fucking brain dead idiots like a significant minority of the Brits. They still have some political awareness. They won't stand for this shit:
I remember a commentator at ZH who said "only blacks riot and loot." I suppose the recent rioting in Germany, looting/rioting in Britain, and looting/rioting in Vancouver - all of which was done by uncivilized whites - call that into question.
And NO, I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty. I'm just trying to dispell the BULLSHIT.
Gotta link to that?
Just a point of contention about Vancouver. The rioters were multicultural. Vancouver has not been all white for decades. In fact, it is known colloquially as Hong Couver, all though you didn't see many chinese rioting.
Quit being a racist, dude.
gotta quote Mr. Celente
When people lost everything and have nothing left to loose, they loose it!
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to loose.
And NO, I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty
And NO, I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty
I love it! You feel guilty and try to project that on others! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I think the point they are trying to make is that there is a disproportionate number of minorities involved in crime relative to their proportion of the population. We all know its true, but the better question is, why?
Because minorities are disproportionately affected by poverty relative to poverty levels among non-minorities.
har har. Any serious responses?
Typical central banker - blaming anyone or anything rather than yourself.
They say the rioters don't know about responsibility but it's members of society like you that have a problem with society.
I'm not confused that you're a central banker, but I bet you trade shares and are pleased with you returns. You make money from doing nothing and people around the world begin to riot because hay have nothing.....it doesn't take a genius to work it out......but that explains why you are forced to revert to 'simple' answers, like race - your brain isn't big enough to see the cause and effect here.
Shame, because in the end you'll be confused when your money / gold can't prevent your house being burnt down by the people where you unearned wealth came from.
you need to check your facts. the rioters in britain were mainly black. the "trigger" was the shooting by the police of a black gangsta
The riots in tottenham were mostly black, because mostly black people live there, in Enfield they were mostly white, because mostly white people live there. I think you need to get your facts straight.
P.s. To all the racists and race deniers out there, it's been kept under wraps but it looks like the men who ran down 3 Asian youths in Birmingham were white. Funny that the press forgot to mention this when they were arrested, only because they deliberately mentioned race when any arrestee was black.
You are proper mind fucked idiots, the media feeds you any old shit and you suck it up like clowns because it's a nice simple concept that you can understand.
I agree. Inner city people riot. That just happens to be where all the minorities live. I'm sure the nice Hispanic ranchers out in the country are not going to burn down main st. Oh and racism is real and every human engages in it. Learn to cope.
Looks like the German Tea Party, aka "Wutburger" (angry citizen) movement is crystallizing.
Or should I say igniting?
I see VW Golf and Jetta's, Fords... even a Smart car. These car owners are the 'right people'?
From the link:
Guess they've never been to Louisiana? I imagine since 2007 at least the same number. lol
A little paint and Bondo™ -- they'll be good as new!
There pretty soon will be increased neighbourhood watches and the like. Its over ten years now that a radicalised lefty youth and Germany-haters with migrational background do these things in Hamburg and Berlin. Soon, these retarded ideologists will be publicly flogged and hung by their nostrils. Politicians will then wake up as well! Can't wait!
Ah yes, those Germans must stop this protesting and restore ORDER. You know, the same old order in which 92% of the folks get shafted every day by the upper 8%.
You watch, if that shit comes to the US they will bust some heads of anyone they can catch, even if they didn't do it, and put their mugs on mainstream media to show you that they caught those criminals. Meanwhile, the banksters who stole billions and trillions walk around free every day.
That's how law & order works in a good fascist country.
The problem is that the violence is being perpetrated against the wrong individuals. In this day and age, it's not hard to find out where certain bankers/politicians live. I'm not advocating violence, but if you're going to take that route, at least act out against those that are responsible.
I think Sir Fred Goodwin (former RBS chairman) did get a brick through his window in edinburgh. That's the only instance I can think of of people going after the perpitrators. Although, I think a couple of greek politicians have been attacked.
I hope the germans have saved some of that gas for the bankers and politicains! Completely agree; its crazy going after normal people like this. However, it looks likely to maifest as a clash of the generations. A merc is so out of reach for anyone under 25 and will remain so that it marks the owner out as someone who's played the bankers game and deserves punishment.
Completely agree with you. The big problem is that most of the time you won't find very intelligent people among these violent groups. These are instinctive low level violent reactions to a negative environment, which at the end put in danger the whole process of change. The "system" is just very happy to see that kind of action because they finally have the legitimation to use the full power of the law AGAINST the people. They will say that it is in your own interest and safety and then one day you will wake up in a police state where your freedom is limited to a minimum.
Sadly, most of the population is already asking for MORE police and control and is willing to exchange freedom for safety.
This is very simple psychology of FEAR! If you really want to control somebody or a whole group of people how you do it? It is so easy! You just scare them! Then they will ASK you for protection! And PROTECTION = CONTROL! And you will end up being the hero!
Thanks God, nowadays people are waking up and understanding more about this "game". I hope it is not too late because if the whole thing gets out of control and gets really violent there will be no winners.
By the way Idiot Savant: I love the movie Rain Man!
"Sadly, most of the population is already asking for MORE police and control and is willing to exchange freedom for safety."
It is really quite freeing to understand that you will never - never, ever, ever - be safe.
No one can save you, no one can protect you from anything and that's a fact. Shit happens, it's that simple. If your number is up or you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time - well, it sucks to be you.
Anyone who believes that the police or your government can keep you safe - that other people can keep you safe, can keep bad things from happening to you or to anyone else - is a natural born idiot.
You underestimate your fellow man.
On the face of it the uk riots don't look clever, but what they have done is created a split in public opinion by committing crimes of a mediocre nature, mostly theft, criminal damage, which has cause the inexperienced government to overreact. 2 men got 4 years in prison for incitement to riot on facebook, for a riot that never took place.
They are also threatening to evict whole families where someone has been involved. This is politically motivated sentencing and will result in massive discourse with the general public and the criminal justice system.
It's just like when you see protestors getting beaten by police at protests, it turns the public against the brutality of the police.
The problem is if the rioters hadn't taken such shocking actions, leaving out the murders as these were simply criminal and unjustifiable, then the government would not have been recalled from holiday.
How many times have the American people been able to bring back bush or Obama from holiday? Even when the tt's were attacked, bush still finished listening those kids. They don't give a shit about the american people it's so obvious.
However in the uk the rioters have clearly shown a mass hypocrisy in government as hacking dead childrens phones and stealing public money through expenses goes lightly punished.
The banks looted the economy so the kids loted the shops - now that's a dilemma, how can you punish one and not the other?
"The "system" is just very happy to see that kind of action because they finally have the legitimation to use the full power of the law AGAINST the people." - OliverTwist
Please, don't give TPTB any ideas.
Or next will be false flag attacks and undercover agent provocateurs ...
oh ... never mind.
They also hate disorder
They also hate disorder
If Germans hate disorder, how do you explain that the word war which etymologically is linked to bringing confusion, disorder has spread that way in so many european languages?
Europe was under roman domination and in latin, bbellum is the word. Yet, in the latin languages, just like in English, the word to designate war has germanic origin. Can this tell something other Germans hate disorder?
US cheap propaganda. If someone could find a way to monetize every bit of US propaganda, even though US citizens produce so much of it, it wont solve their debt problem because US propaganda is so cheap.
I still believe when riots come to the US, we will see the most amount of bloodshed. The Greece police will seem like the Lollipop Guild compared to our military hardened from mutliple tours over the course of a decade in the Middle-East.
Let the revolution begin :)
They would have to be brought home at just the right time. No sooner. Otherwise there might be too much risk of them siding with the public.
The Jack booted Swat teams are trained and ready to coordinate with TSA. Of course the gang bangers have there AK's. The rednecks have some serious firepower as well. UK riots are quaint compared to how it will go down here. Detroit 67 - 43 dead, Watts 64 - 34 dead, LA 93 - 53 dead. Records are made to be broken.
Be too heavy handed and the results could be quite the opposite. Given the digital recording age and all. 'They' have family too...
@baby_BLYTHE....... Think Again...... Troops coming home are committing suicide at a higher percentage rate than of any other war.
Think. Why do they do it? Mel Gibson says he doesn't believe in Post Tramatic Stress Disorder. Hmmmm
Think. Are we asking our troops to engage in something they see as wrong and feel guilt or just plain wrong.
Think. Collateral damage is something that happens in war. Is their too much of it over there ???
Think. Except for "Texas Gun Slinger, 'Kill the FED types" like Perry who approves of this thought. Might.......
.......................................those troops just side with the right side of the fight against the Plutocracy that IS hurting their own. Including Family.
And take side with their own families and friends who blame the Banksters and Wallstreet that just might be foreclosing
on their house too. Because you know.....Banks are foreclosing on troops houses too.
Think about it.
My thought, I remember Carl Quintanilla asking Joe Kernen on the Riots in Greece and Lybia and if it could happen here with concern.
So if it gets to that point, I believe our troops will not kill their own, just like the police stopped in Lybia.
While the government doesn't get it. I believe the people of America do. Including our military.
Hence, I don't think the military will kill their own blood for what is really wrong and against theri own family too.
but this isn't a new phenomenon, our veterans have had a plethora of mental health issues ever since the US got involved in the second World War. Today is no different. I actually work as a secretary in the health offices associated with the VA here on campus and have interacted with several hundred venterans from every war since WWII. Believe me, I do feel for our veterans.
All I suggest is that we differentiate from countries like Greece, which have mandatory military service. Current veterans come back knowing only one thing, their pension and government benefits depend on and are the result of their service in military adventurism that serve and pretect only the big oil and other multi-nationals. It was different circumstances during the early 20th century, even if US involvement was totally unnecessary in WWII.
They will obey orders. Our Constitution and rule of law have been so totally watered down ever since they took out Kennedy. This is the main source of my frustration. President after president gives lip service to the betterment of American society yet continue to only serve and protect the interests that help him come to power.
I do realize a good amount of our military and police personal are good patriotic citizens. My only concern is when the SHTF, the majority consensus will turn against us patriotic Americans and shift to those barking orders seeking to preserve the status quo even if it is inherently unamerican and against all the traditions this nation has ever known.
I feel ya! However, when it comes down to it, we all know that some will tow the line and some won't. It's the proportion of those that do and those that don't that'll determine how much blood will be shed and how it'll all play out (and something will be playing out sooner rather than later). Here in the South, it really doesn't matter. Man or woman, we are for the most part still fiercely independent and a private military in one way or another. I have met several people lately (including a former CIA agent) who have relocated here from other parts of the country SOLELY because they believe the culture of the South will offer the most protection when the SHTF. I'll be spending this Saturday shooting up watermelons on private land with an anesthesiologist and corporate attorney. We'll be ready for whatever . . .
!. So you recognize the Mental Health Issues. My point is they are worse this time. Most don't believe it. Hmmmmm.
2. We too have a mandatory military requirement. It's called the economy. No jobs here. Hey, the military hiring. Texans love cheap labor.
3. It seems those "Job Creators" who got their "Tax Cuts" did not create enough jobs under Bush's Tax Cuts.
4. We should have mandatory service for all. Then we would have better opinions about the expansion of military being everywhere in the world.
5. Think about this. Instead of blowing up bridges in other nations. We could repair our own that we can't afford to do now. Be careful where you drive.
U.S. highways are not safe. They are falling down killing people because we are too poor to fix them. Did you see that new bridge in Iraq we built. Eh.
"i can make you feel b
ut i can't male you think" -Jethro tull
Why so many suicides?
Here's a thesis that wont get tested in this PC world.
US citizens live in an oppressive society. They fancy a lot on performing certain actions they know would get jail time if done in the US.
When in a war like Iraq, they are free to do what they fancy about: raping, torturing, looting, shooting people like lame ducks... It is like a fun park for them. They love this and this is their definition of freedom.
When they are forced to return to the US, suddenly, they can no longer bear the oppressive nature of the US society, they feel homesick of the good old times they spent in Iraq, Afghanistan where they could set up innocent bystanders and blow them up into pieces, using grenades. It was so damned fun.
They miss the lolz, they miss the rush of killing people. They would like to keep doing that but in the US, it would be jail time (even though when caught in the military, they usually avoid the death penalty sentence and have unusual light penalty times)
They get depressed, life is losing meaning to them, they have known paradise and are forced into hell, they have been deprived of their god given right of having fun killing people.
In this US driven world, one should not expect this thesis to be tested because it is very likely to get validated.
US citizens love to perceive themselves as victims. So...
You conveniently neglect the fact that some of the "rioters" will be the "militarily hardended from multiple tours over the course of a decades (decades) in the Middle - East"
The others will be good ole' boys or gangbangers with lots of local knowledge.
Good old house to house combat, coming to a town near you.
Lets quit talking and get it on already.
More than a few of the gang bangas are fresh out of the ME...
Unfortunately, I think you're right. We have fine-tuned death and violence to an art form in America.
Hell, they will likely make a big screen, 3-D movie or two of all the violence and citizens getting maimed, mutilated and killed to make a few more bucks off the obedient sheep who will pay to see it.
You can bet that when the riots finally arrive in USA we will show the world what the old slogan "We're #1" is all about when it comes to debauchery, decadence and violence..,and making a profit from all of it.
True, babyB- I fear the US iteration of these inchoate feelings of marginalization and financial terrorism (already seen in Chicago, DC, LA, etc.) will be far bloodier with deadlier consequences.
Glad I recently left Mad-hatten for the hometown hills of Appalachia...
So you're expecting that it will be the 'military' who would deal with rioters on American streets? That would only happen under conditions of 'martial law', not something anybody wants to see... ever. That's the police's job, not the military's. The US marines have sworn oaths, and tose oaths don't include killing Americans. But they 'do' include protection America from all threats foreign and 'domestic'. Those 'domestic' threats are not any future rioters, but the fucking bankers who drove them to riot.
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