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Bill Maher "Applauds" Ron Paul, Calls Paul Detractors "Brainwashed Liberals"
When Bill Maher, hardly a conservative, says that he applauds Ron Paul on his positions, and calls those Paul detractors in his audience "brainwashed liberals" it is safe to say we have seen it all. And so, once again, Ron Paul is officially cool.
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Tyler, you look to that deep thinker of the modern age, Bill Maher, for approval? How sad.
Slow down, try again. Here let me paste it below slowly.................
"When Bill Maher, hardly a conservative, says that he applauds Ron Paul on his positions, and calls those Paul detractors in his audience "brainwashed liberals" it is safe to say we have seen it all. And so, once again, Ron Paul is officially cool."
If that was Debbie Wasserman Schultz on his panel you couldn't get much more braindead liberal then her. oh sorry, "brainwashed".
I concur. Wasserman lives in another reality.
It's nice to see at least one person from her district is proud she is a cosponsor of SOPA.
It's a sad time in America when someone like Ron Paul gets booed for talking about The Golden Rule.
How can we hope to achieve peace if we're constantly preemptively attacking other countries?
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Saw a picture that I thought spoke volumes.
"I like Ron Paul except for his stance on foreign policy."
"I like Jesus...Except the part about loving your neighbors."
Since when is using our military in preemptive, illegal, and unconstitutional wars being a "conservative American?" Christians refusing to support Ron Paul because he believes in a Just War?
We are a sad, sad lot indeed.
Re: Golden Rule...
The irony that he was talking in front of a bunch of sanctimonious Evangelical pricks about the words of their putative saviour that a good fraction expect to see within their lifetime is almost too much to bear....
Many of us recognize that we are deeply flawed people and in need of a Savior. Many of us also strive to be better people with his guidance. We also try our best to do the right thing,knowing there are times we will fall short,having faith he will be there to catch us.
Well it seems that not too "many" of "you" make it into audiences at GOP debates...
You do recall the ovation Perry got about executions? Another very Christian response...
The Evangelicals are a bunch of phony pricks that have a lot of hangups that they need to address....
Again, there are a lot of us who don't believe the state has a right to take another life. If all Christians would take a deep look at their faith they would recognize that the state took an innocent life when the Romans killed their savior.
Good for you, I don't believe the state has a right to take life either...
That being said, and to quote Maher,
They are no different than the Islamic wackadoos that want to impose Sharia law.
In fact anyone that runs around telling me how they know how to save my immortal soul deserves a one-way ticket to a deserted island and when they are all gathered there they can sort it out amongst themselves once and for all...
apparently there are no glass houses in South Carolina or stones for that matter, they just throw shit or wallow in it, it would seem.
Well Jesus didn't mean the brown people who are sitting on top of our oil.
My daily Hannity inoculation (up to 5 min now) has a caller or Hannity dumbfounded as to why Ron Paul cannot see how pre-emptively blowing up people around the world is not defense.
pods
I believe Jesus WAS one of the brown people sitting on top of our oil?
I'm sure that they boo'd him because the Golden Rule is "those who had the gold made the rules".
I've said this before, and will say it again.
RP, although an honorable man of conviction, cannot win the Republican Nomination. His presence is important as it helps to have at least somebody out there discussing things like the Federal Reserve, our Foreign Military Policy, etc, but he cannot win the nomination.
It doesn't matter what brainwashed liberals think. It only matters what brainwashed conservatives think (since they're the ones who will nominate their candidate).
The thoughts of liberals and Democrats will only be important if/when RP runs as a Democrat or as an independent...
To all those who love RP, I feel your pain, because my favorite candidates could never win a nomination either.
It's not that he can't win, it's that TPTB will do everything they can to PREVENT him from winning.
Your attitude parallels the attitudes of many living in 1776. "We can't defeat the British." "We can't have freedom."
RP winning the nomination depends on the Sheeple waking up from their brainwashing induced trance. I admit, the chances of that happening are slim to none, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. Gingrich will probably fade, Santorum is out for sure before it's all over. It's basically Paul vs. Romney. Let's see them debate 1 on 1.
A one on one between Paul and Romney....hmmmmm.....I wonder how they could get Romney to argue with himself over the issues and his stances over the years thereby neglecting Ron Paul. They have to keep this a three-four man circus as long as possible, otherwise it will be impossible to ignore Ron Paul in thedebates.
Total Talk % Romney 22:21 28.08% Santorum 22:17 28.00% Gingrich 18:40 23.46% Ron Paul 16:17 20.46% Total 1:19:36 100.00%What if he did win the nomination and he won the presidency because he's respected across party lines?
What happens next?
Heaven on earth. Utopia. The end of war. The end of socialism. The end of hate. The end.
Beginning of a culture war to beat back Theocracy in all 50 states...allowing the bankster and predator class to have a field day.
Yeah, the end allright.
your ignorance is appalling.
No state theocrat could ursurp your INDIVIDUAL right to practice your religion, nor violate your private property right, NO MATTER WHAT THE STATE LAW. Ron Paul would remove the federal laws, but would ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS FROM THE CONSTITUTION ON THE STATES.
Get a clue and and education dumbass.
Your blind spot it appallingly large, fantasy boy.
Adultery is still illegal in many states (roughly half)...and a felony in some. Most state and local prosecuters don't bother, but that could easily change under a different regeime.
Do a web search. Get a clue.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2010-04-26-column26_ST_N.htm
Adultery, in many states, is still a crime
>>>Across the country, some social conservatives are fighting for what they view as a critical article of faith: criminal adultery laws. In the U.S., in the year 2010, people can still be prosecuted for breaching their marital vows. The laws are some of the last remnants of our Puritanical past, where infidelity was treated as not only a marital but also as a criminal matter. While the laws have been challenged as unconstitutional, many people are resistant to the idea of removing such "morality crimes" from our books...<<<
>>>Civil libertarians have long opposed adultery laws as a version of the "tyranny of the majority" over the values of citizens. Many thought this debate was closed after the 2003 decision of the Supreme Court in Lawrence v. Texas, which struck a Texas statute criminalizing consensual sodomy. They underestimated the political resistance to the idea of making infidelity a purely civil matter.
In Minnesota, for example, state Sen. Ellen Anderson in December made the modest suggestion that the state repeal laws that make it illegal for a married woman to cheat on her husband and make it a crime for single women to have sex at all. The response of the Minnesota Family Council (MFC) was to call for the law not to be repealed but strengthened. Make it a crime for men, too, the group argued.<<<
Perhaps you should read the entire article which discusses recent enforcement and convictions in some states.
>>>In these state and federal systems, adults who cheat on their spouses are still deemed presumptive criminals and face the potential of a criminal charge. Just a year after the Lawrence decision, John R. Bushey Jr., then 66, the town attorney for Luray, Va., was prosecuted for adultery and agreed to a plea bargain of community service. A year later, Lucius James Penn, then 29, was charged with adultery in Fargo, N.D. In 2007, a Michigan appellate court ruled that adultery can still support a life sentence in that state.<<<
Just step-up enforcement and penalties and you are well on your way to a Christian Reconstructionist Gulag state. Yeah, can't happen here...BWAHAHAHA!!!
Ron Paul touts endorsement of pastor who defends death penalty for gays, delinquent children & adultery
http://wthrockmorton.com/2011/12/28/kayserendorsemen/ Public Stonings 2012!!!Gave ya a green for the importance of the following:
It only matters what brainwashed conservatives think (since they're the ones who will nominate their candidate).
That's it, right there. There's no "threat" to Ron Paul from the liberals or the progressives because they've all been driven out of the Republican party over the past 30 years. The Republican party's "base" is laissez-faire business interests, interventionist neo-conservatives, and fundamentalist Christians.
None of those groups are going to turn out for Dr. Paul.
Calling the non-believers names is actively counterproductive. You have to explain the benefits of Paul's objectives to the Republicans. Good luck with that.
You can say it, but that doesn't make it so. An assertion isn't an argument.
"I've said this before, and will say it again. Mr. Snuffleupagus is our lord and savior."
See how that assertion is missing something?
was arianna puffHo on too?
+1
Considering how the media buries any stories about Dr.Paul (except how "unelectable he is), how about "Unforgotten" with Dr.Paul as Clint Eastwood.
There's a poster with the faces of Gene Hackman, Richard Harris, Morgan Freeman, and Clint Eastwood that would be rather apt for the photoshop.
Nice work...Can you do a velociraptor/penis mix for Bill Maher?
Bills mahers movie on religion was great.
Glad He's seen the light on Paul.
Your perception is not my reality. Try, "I thought..."
Or from my perspective, "I think your soul is in peril."
Glad I could help.
go ron go!!!!!
comments from a man who had Van Jones on his show...
Maher is a douchebag. Who gives a fuck about what he has to say...
But if he's one more vote for Paul, and his statements cause a few hundred braindead numbskulls to eventually get enlightened, then "I'll take it!"
I like Ron Paul. But when a smug moron like Maher praises him, it makes me doubt my opinion.
RP is able to unite people across party lines. Dems that voted for BHO and looking for an alternative will most definitely not vote for either Newt or Mittens.
This right here. I was walking around downtown Austin a few Saturdays ago and heard a ruckus coming up Congress Ave. It turned out to be a RP rally (I'd say there was about 50 people or so). I headed up towards the capitol with them and was struck by how diverse the group was. Clean cut young republican/frat boy types, stinky hippies banging bongos, tatted up skaters, black dudes, Mexicans, some decent looking girls. The group was un-categorizable. The only commonality was that nearly all were under 40 years old. Dr. Paul is a once-in-a-lifetime treasure. America better not fuck this up.
Closer to the 99% than any of the others.
Maher is an opinion maker. I wonder too if his intent is to confuse those who hate him to drop support for RP because of that. Maher endorsing RP??????? cogdis.
The only intelligent/honest bit I've heard from that lost soul.
Paul's a Libertarian corporate whore masquerading as a warrior for personal freedom.
He gets my vote but I understand your suspicion. After all, he's still alive.
H/T. Nicely said.
Wrong. Whores get paid. Whores like Obama/Romney/Gingrich etc.
Ron Paul's Top 3 Contributors
1. US Army personnel
2. US Navy personnel
3. US Airforce personnel
They don't even try to buy this guy off, they know it's futile to try:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-1pY7oSfcmc
He's nothing but a poser to true civil libertarians. Personal freedom for less than 50% of the population. State enforced pregnancy for the majority that have wombs.
And when his Christian Reconstructionist nutball followers make a power grab on the state level, we'll all be scrambling to beat back Theocracy in all 50 states...yeah, like that won't be distracting.
The bankster and predator class will have a field day once the CRs launch the ultimate divide and conquer strategy.
Glad you see it too. Surprisingly, few here at ZH see much beyond his ridiculous personal freedoma and liberty rhetoric.
Because Ron Paul is really omnipotent and can accomplish all his desires and more merely by winning the presidency.
Obama barely got healthcare and had to sell his soul to do it and it was a shell of any real reform, no single payer option for example.
Yet somehow Ron Paul will move the entire universe and accomplish everything needed to get everything he wants in a single 4 year term.
Are you high or just in denial?
Are you STILL trolling the same old shit? Really?
Hey guess what? Steven Colbert just supported Ron Paul...Now hes secretly a Christian theocrat AND a Liberal Comedian!
yes yes, Ron Paul FORCED those women to GET PREGNANT.
How about with FREEDOM TO HAVE SEX you take the RESPONSIBILITY once you're PREGNANT?
There was a story out recently how a 9 1/2 oz baby SURVIVED.
If the women was FORCED into having sex and ended up being pregnant, that is a different story, since there was NO CHOICE and hence she could abdicate responsibility.
And you wonder why this country is in the shit state its in, it's because fuckers like you don't take responsibliity for your actions.
You get a girl pregnant, you take care of her.
If the girl is pregnant her responsibility is to raise that child.
God gave us the most amazing power to create life, something scientists have been unable to do. Yet we abuse it at the first possibility.
If your mother aborted you we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Now that you're safe, you're 'pro choice'? We should allow retroactive abortions too, then anyone who is pro-choice can be aborted post-hoc? Kinda stupid argument right? So what grants a person their individual rights? only when they're born? so a baby who's 39 weeks and 6 days is not a legal person but someone 10 minutes later who is born is?
And how the fuck does the 'bankster' class have a field day. If Ron Paul was in power, JPM, BAC, WFC, Citi, Ally etc. would NOT EXIST TODAY.
Ron Paul's anti-choce law had no exceptions for incest, rape or life of the mother. Without access to a legal, safe abortion it IS "state enforced pregnancy."
Call it what it is. Don't try to justify it with a load of morality laden rhetoric.
That's your religion...not mine.
So much for "libertarianism" 777. Change your moniker. You're a poser too.
The moderation of last night's debate was shameful. Dr. Paul was given less time to answer each matter than the others were allowed. King was interjecting comments to rush him; I have no respect for King at this point. Even the issues that were framed were designed to go completely around Dr. Paul. I watched this debate to learn more about Dr. Paul and his stance on the issues. I do not believe he was given a chance to get his full message out. The whole debate process confirms just how broken the media is. How many times were the images of the debaters framed to eliminated Dr. Paul's presence on the stage. Most shots were of 2 or 3; rare were the entire 4 shown. I am surprised Dr. Paul did not speak about the moderator's bias right in the debate. I hope he calls them out in the future. He is the only candidate out there with fresh ideas. Romney is a smug rich boy who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth; I believe I would count my fingers if I ever had to shake hands with him. Newt is a brilliant man but he just jumps around so much with his positions you never really know who he is or what he stands for. Santorum ...? Dr. Paul has apparently been consistent on everything throughout his life. Dr. Paul seems to have the most credibility and integrity. I hope he wins the primary.
Hope springs eternal but brace yourself for Barack Romney. My only curiosity is what crazy asshole Mitt picks as his VP running mate. Al Sharpton?
Marcus Bachmann?
Marianne Ginther?
Ron Paul
Wait for the day that Mittens releases his tax returns. He was "very successful" by his own accounts and will only invite those who are equally successful. We're fucked anyway. Who needs to add insult to injury and be constantly reminded of how successful the guy was in his business dealings? He's made his fortune on the backs of others, just like the rest. When it's inconvenient he can afford to layoff the masses to increase his bottom line. What's so good about that? He is representative of the bulk of CEOs that got paid more than ever in the history of this country during the recession and with rising unemployment. Big deal.
Romney is a leach on the back of the proletariat.
It was very obvious. They're scared shitless about RP's increased popularity despite all their efforts to the contrary.
Liberals leery of of Paul isn't nearly as strange as the way the corporate-conservative media and Republicans themselves have beat up on the guy. After all, Paul does have the whole conservative Christian baggage going on which will instantly make some folks unsure of him.
I think support for Paul boils down to those who can see behind the curtain and those cannot, or will not see behind it. The whole political left/right BS is just there to add confusion and emotional idiocy to the matter.
What happened to EZ's proposed Greek PSI deal news conference for today?
The liberal Glenn Greenwald said it best: Ron Paul holds a mirror up to the face of the Democratic Party and they don't like what's reflected back on them.
The positions on anti-war, anti-corporate welfare, protection of civil rights, end the racist drug war, protecting whistleblowers, preserving individual privacy, and anti-inflation to protect fixed income classes from taking a quality of life hit are all what the democrats used to be about. These are your positions and it's not surprising a libertarian is saying them given that they draw themselves from the same classical liberal tradition. The libertarian critique of the liberals is that they sold themselves out for a welfare card to prevent themselves from being called fascist/communist/terrorist sympathizers.
Liberals, at some point you're going to have to decide whether your bankrupt welfare state is worth the intrusions above. It's not enough to say "yeah, I agree with him on some things, but others are so off base that there's no way I could for him". The next question you need to answer is "what's your welfare system worth to you? Your liberty? Your privacy? 60% of your wealth?" Make a decision on the price and then figure how the math on how bankrupt this country is.
"what's your welfare system worth to you?" Just ask the Europeans, they already sold their skin their children and their soul for it
"figure out the math" even a mention of Math makes most people turtle up in their Brains like a pack of wolfs was out to get them, don't expect a liberal to even know how to spell m.a.t.h
True. But neither party is what they are supposed to be anymore.
The Dems have been corporate whores since Clinton's years while Rush and his ilk kept calling him an ultra liberal even though Clinton was a fascist's wet dream. And we know Rush is a fascist, feudal lord wannabe.
On the other hand, the party that constantly tells us they stand for freedom is the party that had the majority in congress when they passed the Patriot Act and the NDAA.Yep, they are all about freedom...for them and theirs.
Heck, I actually started off calling myself a Republican when I was 18 and Reagan got elected. His presidency had enough hypocritical "freedom" for me to say thanks but no thanks to the modern republican party that supports freedom, but only for themselves and their feudal lord buddies.
+1 for proper framing of the liberal vs. classical liberal ideological divide.
What makes the welfare state a "liberal" issue at this point?
Maybe in the '30s. Maybe in the '60s. But today?
It was a Republican Congress that passed the Medicare D extension, and a Republican President who proudly signed it into law.
Are those guys just another batch of liberals?
Is EVERYONE ON EARTH a liberal because they've all made stupid decisions at one time or another?
Maybe we need to step up the level of understanding of our terminology, because clearly the whole one-dimensional axis doesn't work.
It's nice to have a libertarian expose the liberals for the phoney liberals they are.
Did u all see Santorscum jump in and call out Dr Paul on abortion. Of course Paul told him he wasn't even thinking of the asshole when he answered. Just more proof why Santorscum is still in this circus.
Santorum is Huckersterbee 2.0.
Gotta have someone fill that role, otherwise the religious block might be inclined to listen to the good doctor and come to recognize that his ways are fully aligned with the Prince of Peace.
I liked the way RP schooled Scumtorum by saying that the easiest way to defeat Roe vs Wade would be to allow the states to decide the issue instead of waiting on the Supreme Court to reverse its own decision, which would be NEVER.
I honestly had never thought about it that way, but it makes perfect sense and is Constitutional!
Excellent analysis. Like the other Globalist pawns set after a guy who doesn't even play the game.
Frothy actually did Dr. Paul a huge favor. RP was able to get in a freaking haymaker counterresponse that described abortion as a "violent act" and allowed him to further discuss his constitutional expertise regarding to abortion and states' rights - all to wild applause. I believe that was the last response of the night.
Who are we kidding? Maher voted for BHO and is disillusioned. His feelings and opinions are representative of many Americans who voted for "Hope and Change" and got "Same Old, Same Old". Now here's a quirky conservative candidate who speaks straight up and makes sense. None of what RP says seems scripted, it seems off the cuff and that's a good thing. He's not rehearsed to taking stabs at the other candidates because he ultimately doesn't care to tear them down. It doesn't matter to him. He's way cool and witty.
GOP might send Mittens into the race against BHO and will loose. Guaranteed. Gingrich doesn't stand a chance in hell either. Heck, I'd sooner vote for BHO then Gingrich despite the fact that BHO is an imposter.
Let's just say if RP doesn't get nominated, I could care less what happens next.
That's because if RP doesn't get nominated, the outcomes is the same regardless of who get elected President, regardless if it's Republicans or Democrats.
Maybe there's a chance RP will try his own run as 3rd party candidate. The Dems would be cheering (until they learn their own voters are deflecting) and the Repubs would be complaining and playing the "Obama-gets-reelected-if" scare card. Whatever.
RP should run all the way to the finish line. Either with GOP blessing or alone.
It's now or never. Enough with the bullshit. I don't want my kids and their kids to be citizens of United States of Goldman Sachs.
+1
but seriously, it's fucking *lose* ...can we NOT tighten this shit up?!!
I always watch Bill Maher on Friday. He's legit funny and talented I find. He offends a lot of people but he always calls it as he sees it right or wrong. he makes a lot of good points on some topics and he does make you think. He has been very open to Ron Paul and his message for some time. He always shows Ron Paul respect.
just go give him a blowjob, goof.
I like RP, but BM is a total asshole, so who cares what he says about anything?
...BM, pathetic waste of time. An idiot able to attract idiots, by claiming to be ...funny? Zero interest, ...hmmm, makes him a great pitchman for BofA.
the funny/odd thing is, while probably 99% of us would agree about both parties basically 2 sides of the same coin, the Totally Contol MSMedia....that one would think the simple fact that these groups are doing all they can to bury Ron Paul, that alone should be an Endorsement......its harly mentioned that of all the GOP candidates, it was Ron Paul who showed to be the Strongest vs Obama, yet the GOP don't want him
its my Big Hope that Ron Paul runs as a 3rd Party Candidate.
This country is so Ripe & Ready for that, and Ron Paul can easily Win as a 3rd Party
First, Paul could only possible have a successful 3rd party run if the nomination was stolen from him in a brokered convention where someone like Daniels ends up the nominee, but for that to happen he needs to perform much better than he has to date. Any other 3rd party scenario results in Obama's second term. This is also another reason why the mainstream media and left have been so accepting of Paul. There are so many ways he can help them.
I've finally figured out what people mean when they say there is no difference between left and right. There are two types of people that say that. The first is the econmically literate who realizes that no matter who wins the election that they always appoint the same people to the economic and monetary policy jobs. These guys actually have a good point. The other group are the people who are so very far out on the fringes that they look at the two parties and can't see any difference, but that's not because the parties arent different it's because the observer is so far away from either point that they can't see the difference. It's like looking at two stars in the sky and thinking they are relatively close together. The economically literate crowd need to do something to draw a clear distinction.
The fake war on terror, the endless foreign police actions, the rending and shredding of civil rights like the patriot act and NDAA, the war on drugs, the massive corporate bailouts.
These are all non partisan issues supported by those who wear red ties and those who wear blue ties. Elephants and donkeys alike, are really both just pigs at the trough.
The parties are more alike than different and its not just the economic elements that bridge them. They are both cesspools of cronyism and revolving door capitalism helping to sell america and americans out to the highest bidder.
Any difference you can see is merely an illusion to market them to your viewpoint.
Newt Gingrich was a democrat who became a republican because he couldn't get elected as a democrat in Georgia, most politicians are fungible as Romney proves.
Maher is a stooge. There is so much blatant dis-info garbage on his show I can barely sit through an episode without yelling obscenities at the screen.
You're like many people. And many people are mentally ill.
It's just teevee. You shouldn't let it upset you. The media companies do not deserve that kind of influence over your mood.
That was a pretty dumb comment, I've come to expect better from you blunder-d.
"You're like many people. And many people are mentally ill." lolwut? Not your best work...
Thank you for the critique. What do you suggest I do to improve in the future?
Waiting with baited breath for your input.
(Edit: BTW--I am completely serious in my comment. If you're truly made passionately angry by watching Bill Maher on the teevee, you're crazy. I'll be happy to elaborate if you like, but I don't think there's any reason. The truth of this should be obvious.)
I usually enjoy your commentary, which is why I bothered to respond in the first place. I guess I appreciate your snarky condescension more when it's not directed at me, and well, when it's clever and makes sense (making a mental health diagnosis based on a salty comment I made about the dis-info, and propaganda in our system/propagated by HBO et al is neither). Maybe in your world/culture the ONLY cause for shouting expletives is "passionate anger" or insanity, I tend to let off a little verbal frustration any damn time I feel like it ( Watch out for this nut amirite?!?!) I would be happy to further elaborate on why your silly "ha, ha, this guy talks to his 'teevee' because Bill Maher makes him so 'passionately' angry, as to be 'mental' unlike me, tha mothafucking stoic scholar heerr, above such petty emotions(?)" narrative is juvenile, but... it... should...have.... been.... obvious... Cheers.
So, who do you rely on for reliable commentary and to be entertained???
why your silly "ha, ha, this guy talks to his 'teevee' because Bill Maher makes him so 'passionately' angry, as to be 'mental' unlike me, tha mothafucking stoic scholar heerr, above such petty emotions(?)"
Nah, you're making unwarranted assumptions about my perspective. I don't yell at the teevee 'cause I don't watch it. If I did, I might.
You're free to watch teevee or not. If you're choosing to do something that you know makes you angry, yep: you're crazy.
You're in good company, though. Millions of people are just like this. Rather than pay attention to important things that affect their lives, folks displace a good deal of anger onto something optional and completely unimportant.
But anyway, sure, I'm a condescending and juvenile narcissist who thinks he's above others, etc etc.
Yup.
Most people don't even realize it is a false reality because they have been embedded in it for years. It's the first thing they do when they get home and the last thing they do before they go to sleep. they watch a glass panel filled with manipulated media and situations for years of their lives and at most levels of their being beleive it is real.
it's just ghosts trying to sell you things, like this is the way life is, that you should be passive and watch, not active and participate.
They couldn't have sold millions of McMansions and Hummers to the brain dead without television, it is the best brainwashing device deployed to date and they make you pay for the brainwashing and make you buy the brainwashing device and so many losers line up at bestbuy on their thanksgiving holiday for the chance to be a lucky sucker and buy one with their hard earned cash.
Notice how the obesity rate has increased alongside the increase in the amount and hours of television programming available?
When I was a lad television went off the air at midnight and didn't resume broadcasting until 7 or 8 am, and people were skinny and talked to each other. Now its all 24/7 tv and people so large they have to buy hummers to haul their lard asses around.
Dysfunctional comes to mind.
Insanity is too small a word to describe this entire situation.
In typical Hollywood fashion they cram way to much shit on the show with too many people and too many bits. Aren't 3 pannel guests enough? My gawd with the 4th guy who ususally upstages and the 5th one who appears via skype? Not to mention the idiot Real Rules that is only sometimes marginally funny but yet again, a wasted cut off from any real conversation.
This show is approved by the ADD association of America.
So you must be a fan of the Newshour with Jim Lehrer???
Hapte, why do you watch if it upsets you? Life is short.
Do you avoid things that irk/annoy/upset you, even if there is knowledge/info to be gained? I watch Real Time for the same reason I watch Fox Newz, to keep on top of what most people think is fact.
I dabble in the media channels once in awhile, just often enough to see that nothing much changes. The scripts remain the same and the packaging doesn't change. Much of what is out there in the world is irking/annoying/upsetting, and not just because it's outside my immediate strike zone. I know that just because I zip through cable channels or network news doesn't mean that I'm informed about what is happening in the world.
I guess the reason I asked is because I figure that most people here can pretty much write the dialogue for both sides of any argument by now, so why would you seek the aggravation? Perhaps I presume too much.
"I watch Real Time for the same reason I watch Fox Newz, to keep on top of what most people think is fact."
That is to say, a little aggravation is worth staying on top of the MS BS. Do you disagree?
Yeah, I disagree. I know what some people think is fact and I know that I don't agree with a lot of them. I don't need to have it confirmed by talking heads, nor do I need to have my particular viewpoint confirmed by other talking heads. It's enough that my husband and I see things from the same point on the spectrum -- I'm really glad that we see things the same because I know that's not such a common thing.
Real aggravation is saved for tackling recalcitrant real life problems. That's not to say that I don't care about what happens in the world because I do. But I have a clear understanding of where I end and where the rest of the world starts.
To each their own. Cheers.
If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem. (No offense)
double post
The whole purpose of television is to misinform you. Seeking information from the disinformation system is a sure fire path to dissapointment.
Television exists to sell. they will sell you ideas, lifestyles, viewpoints, problems, solutions whatever they want you to think and whatever they want to sell.
It has an off button for a reason. I would suggest unplugging it for a couple of weeks and seeing how you feel. even an acoholic lets his liver recover for a couple of hours.
It is satan's dream box.
It's funny, because I don't even own a television. But I do enjoy all these posters telling me a bunch of shit I already know...
Empty slogans don't offend me but I don't get staying out of a regular television audience keeps me from being part of the solution. I take it you think I'm uninformed or uninvolved? You'd be wrong but I don't believe I need to prove it to you.
"I watch Real Time for the same reason I watch Fox Newz, to keep on top of what most people think is fact."
With all due respect, there is probably very lucrative potential in a derivative play on the market for a meta-sheeple perspective analysis of a situation where seemingly sheep dogs sleep but the truth is in both situations above, they don't.
"Which way the flock gonna bolt?!"
The MSM bear watching....and for that reason only.
Hey Hapte, you are entitled to your opinion, out of curiosity, who do you rely on to give you reliable information? I am legitimately curious...
Drudge.
Jk, As many sources as possible I guess? Doesn't everyone triangulate news/info? What with the internet and all it's pretty available... Anyone who trusts any one source as 100% reliable is a fool.
Yep....agree with you, but in all fairness you are completely deluded if you think that is what you are doing...
You can't triangulate if you only rely on "rightish" sources... sorry, maybe listen to NPR...
You are guilty of myopia....
Sry mate, you are guilty of being clueless. JK = Just kidding. Myopia? Trolol! I'm listening to Terry Gross as I type this.
So, what is the "leftist" place you check out?
Do you ever frequent Naked Capitalism as a financial commentary site? Have you even heard of it?
And let me guess, NPR news is too "lefty" and "statist"?
Are you trying to sound dumb? Terry Gross is the Host of NPR's talk show "Fresh Air". I've been listing to NPR every day since my birth. Yes, I've heard of the aforementioned blog, no I don't read it, plenty of overlap among the blogs though.
Sorry, I missed the connection with NPR... good for you. That does provide some balance...
Former leftist/statist here to say yes it is too leftists and statist to listen to. You really do not need news to know what is going on.
Ron Paul is only cool as long as he's gumming up the works in the GOP primary. You let him win the nomination and you'll find out exactly what Rand found out when he got ambushed by Rachel Maddow. He learned that his usefulness had come to an end. If Paul were to win the nomination he would morph into a crazy white racist who indulged in conspiracy theories and racism in his newsletter. He has the most easily, racially, exploitable history of the whole GOP field.
So very true yet how much of that is false? Ron Paul is certainly a good ol' boy with racist tendencies. Anyone who cannot admit this true fault of his is blinded by their very own HOPIUM.
Ron Paul has written 10 books, none of which anbody has been able to cherrypick for a racist quote.
He's quite an outspoken man and doesn't mince words about the fed or foreign wars. If he were a racist he would be just as outspoken about it.
All those quoted racist comments come from 4 pages of one newsletter written by someone other than Ron Paul but published in a newletter with Ron Paul's name on it.
These newsletters were written and published by someone other that Dr. Paul at a time when he was not in Congress and had left congress to pursue work in his medical practice. I'm sure he was too busy delivering babies and being a doctor to spend much time on an obscure newsletter that he thought was in capable hands.
Was that an error on his part? Most likely, was Ron Paul a racist? Not likely, since there is no other record of racist comments by him despite many reams of written words both in congress and in publication.
He might not be everybodies cup of tea, but no reason to try to smear him as racist, when you could spend the time finding holes in his logic or disparaging his lack of support for Israel.
Good for Maher; He is also having Buddy Roemer on as well.
F@#$ that RDDB. (Red Diaper Doper Baby.)
and of course if you try to vote for RP in the newsmax poll on the left you get an error---LMFAO--
newsmax is all Gingrich, all the time.
Well done Maher, who unlike many americans does not refer to various skymen stories for their belief's.... and thanks for all the air time you gave the Hitch(RIP) who travelled the USA comprehensively outdebating every religious apologist america has...
Even our guardian uk did a very positive article bout RP but sky news here will not even show his face they pan 4 microphones and stop before RP face gets seen he is made invisible in all nearly uk media....
The bullshit on tv is better than the back and forth bullshit on this post...
The police state has got him running scared. RP has been sounding the alarm for a long time, and he's the best candidate period.
whats the difference when Obama moves to the middle trying get swing votes, and Ron Paul crosses party lines?
Whats the diffence when GoldmanSachs is the top campaign contributor of both Romney and Obama?
What's real difference between Obama (who ended the Iraq war, and who says he plans to end Afghanistan) and Paul, who wants to bring the troops home?
answer there is not a lot of real difference between the two, therefore Ron Paul is a legitimate candidate, but the real difference is how the media treats one, the incumbent, and the other, who cant' be elected.
remember John McCain received votes in proportion to how Goldman Sachs funded the two campaigns.
The real difference? Obama is the Fed's boy; Paul is not.
I am a "Liberal"
I watch The Daily Show and Bill Maher
I voted for Obama.
I thought my vote for Obama was a vote to "Undo Bush" I thought Obama would understand that he was being voted into office so that 1) the rest of the countries of the world would lower their flashing-red anxiety level that I felt was very dangerous; and 2) allow the economy to correct instead of doing what Bush had done and print money.
None of those things happened. Obama did NOT undo Bush, instead he pushed a very expensive and stupid agenda; he is a social conservative - closing medial marijuana dispenseries, ending the morning after pill, etc....; and he is wildly Kenseyan. HELP!
I and many of my "Liberal" friends have become strong Ron Paul supporters. I was a Liberal for social reasons, not fiscal ones. Ron Paul is exactly in line with my views on both social and fiscal policies.
I do NOT believe that Bill Maher is being disingenuous, he would vote for RP over Obama. I know I will vote for anyone over Obama (not true, actually I will be writing in RP if he is not on the ticket...) I think RP would easily win a general election based on the support that I've seen move from Obama to him from my friends on the left.
--Brian
"ending the morning after pill"- So you support murder. Jeez what a nice guy you are Brian...fuck this world is WAY better place with people like you around.
I might be convinced to support murder if you were the victim and I was permitted to watch. The world would suffer a great loss, but I'd be briefly entertained.
Wow! You know I hope Paul does not get in (even though I support him). This world is so cruel, perverse and corrupt it does not deserve an honest money system and correct governance. Esp. with assholes like you two who support the morning after pill. Say, who has the right to take life? Do you? Off topic given ZH is all about the money but they do allow social issues here as far as I can tell. So fuck you Brian and blunderdog fuck you very much.
Consider sharing this video with the non-believers. A list of topics the candidates really should be discussing, and Ron Paul comes closer than most.
watch the limo-liberals run...good for him though...
Ron Paul is a moron.
Youngandhealthy, is your last name Butstupid by any chance?
If you truely are Young and Healthy you won't be after Obama and/or Romney/Newt get done with you! That's a FACT JACK!
How big is your Card Board Box you call Home?
You're young and healthy, remember you said that for the rest of your long life, living under the two party tyranny.
Romney is a morMon....
but way to go troll. since this is fight club, put up or shut up. JUSTIFY WHY YOU SAY HE's A MORON.
The kiss of death
is he trying to hurt RP?
my problem with RP is that he still thinks that if he is elected President, he can fix this fascist state we once called America. IMO we're way too far gone and a President Paul would only reside over the brink of the failure of our system. can't fight math forever with hope and change and as we all know, the other branches will never succumb to the pricinciples of the Constitution and foundations of a Republic. there is no going back. there will be a reset at some point.
+1
True spoken whispers will tear you apart no matter how hard you resist it.
My sincere hope is that with RP we will see that "reset" rather sooner than later.
Short term pain.
Bill Maher applauds Ron Paul? Oh no I've gone cross-eyed!
I must rethink my attitude towards Maher now........To Be Continued
From:
http://investmentwatchblog.com/zio-media-propaganda-is-a-drug/#.TxnWAnKt2nA
From Rose King:
Thursday, January 19, 2012
ZIO-MEDIA-PROPAGANDA IS A DRUG!
Just have to say,
It is really bad when you have a tax cheat predator and a womanizing two-timer hypocrite running for office. Both of these corrupted rat bigots romney and gingrich are evil to the core and are NOT for the American People and their records PROVE IT!
THE CRIME IS THE ZIO-MEDIA-PROPAGANDA TV DRUG COVERS IS ALL UP!
Why aren’t people asking more about mitt romney’s tax havens and his tax cheating? Why is he above the tax requirements of the American People? How many tax haven shelter bank accounts does he have? This is where the poor people’s money whose jobs he took is stored. How many in Switzerland too? How about all those poor people he put out of work for his personal profit? Is this what america wants? Another cheating lying predator corporate sock-puppet for the banksters that are supporting him? The people do not support him, the wall street zio-bankers do. How can anyone be so dam stupid as to vote for any of these two faced zio-puppet hypocritical criminals?
Why aren’t Americans asking about the CFR newt gingrich and his two faced disdain and disrespect for all women in his treacherous actions in his marriages? Is this what the American family is all about? Women in America are complicit with, Honey, I hope you are OK with me having an extramarital affair and if not, I will divorce you and go home with her. This disgusting two timing rat is actually trying to be president of America?
He talks about jobs? Does anyone remember this newt clown was a major supporter of NAFTA and Agenda 21? That whooshing sound of your jobs going overseas? Look at his voting record is not in the interests of America, but for the globalist profiteers. He is a CFR NWO PUPPET!
Both of these clowns talk about jobs and yet their records show they have actually done more to kill jobs in America than to create them. Wake up people!!!! Do you all really want more of this criminality and corruption in your govt? Do you really want MORE WAR???
And how about those warmongering democrats pushing for more big govt and obama care taxes on every single thing the people can buy that went into effect on the first of January? The BFD they would not talk openly about. Every big govt agency profits from obama/romney care taxes. Never considered that after eight years of the bush agenda and profiteering wars, the democrats would push that exact same republican agenda and romney care package and still actually want four more years totaling 16 years of useless WARS and higher taxes.
It is unflipinbelievable to see how many of these stupid sheeple still support all the wars and corruption of obama the illegal alien puppet. It is in fact, totally ludicrous! On the cover of time’s yellow journalism magazine it asked, what is wrong with those who oppose obama? The real question in Orwell’s world is, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE OBAMABOTS AND ZOIDS THAT SUPPORT HIS WAR MONGERING HIGHER TAXES AGENDA FOR THE WALL STREET PUPPETEERS OF PROFIT AND PLUNDER?
And what has that done for you America? What has obama done for you personally? What have the senseless wars that only the oil companies and bankster rothschilds profit from done for you? How many people do you personally know that are doing better in their lives after 12 years of war AND THE BUSH/OBAMA TAX AND SPEND BIG GOVT POLICE STATE AGENDA?
If you feel a need to be sensible, look at the records people and vote for who has the record of PAST honesty to stand on. The choice is quite simple this coming election, if we actually have one. The people will vote as zazi’s and for more totalitarian police state wars, or as Americans and for peace and resolution to our financial and foreign policies. It is a no brainier for anyone who can read. War, or not? Bring our troops home, or send more. Recover our economic structure, or all fail and depression and more war comes. Nazi Isramerica, or America the good ol USA? Easy choice. Only one candidate stands head and shoulders above all the others and it does not take a genus to figure it out. Ron Paul is America’s Last Chance. ANY OTHER CHOICE FOR LEADERSHIP WILL END AMERICA AS YOU ALL KNOW IT! Choose well.
Just GO AHEAD AND MAKE A CHART comparing the past voting records of all the republicans and obama too and then you will see the truth. The question is, will you still deny your own eyes and heart of truth for what you believe on the drug TV and zio-media-propaganda following course with the sheeple headed off the cliff, or will you turn into the wind and lead the pack out of danger and destruction?
Follow your Heart and NOT the zio-media-propaganda.
In Service,
ROSE KING
God invented hyperlinks so you don't have to cut and paste a wall of text which nobody will read.
Just post the 1st paragraph and a link and if it looks interesting people will click the link.
I didn't even read the whole post and i doubt many will. Do yourself a favor, if you want it to get read, just post the link.
Bill Maher is closer to a Libertarian than a Liberal.
I guess you can't be Fiscally Conservative and Socially Liberal at the same time. Why is that so ? Because you are brain-washed AMERICANS !
It appears that Zero Hedge Readers also think that George Carlin was a liberal.
(the IQ on the website has continually dropped over the past two years)
What was he?
I'd love to hear what you believe the great George Carlin actually to be? This is not an attack, just curious.
Yes, I am interested to hear what Carlin was as well in your opinion...
Finally, the man says something that doesn't make me wince and lose hope for humanity.
For all you guilt-by-assocition haters of Paul out there, this only means one thing;
Paul is a far left, anti-religion liberal in disguise. Don't let his libertarian-conservative facade fool you!!!
Bill maher on your side is certainly not a good thing.