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Bill Maher "Applauds" Ron Paul, Calls Paul Detractors "Brainwashed Liberals"
When Bill Maher, hardly a conservative, says that he applauds Ron Paul on his positions, and calls those Paul detractors in his audience "brainwashed liberals" it is safe to say we have seen it all. And so, once again, Ron Paul is officially cool.
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If you noticed, one of the panelist on with Bill Maher was David Frum. I wish we could have seen his face when Maher endorsed Ron Paul. I can imagine Frum shit his pants. The Necon Zionists (of which Frum is the poster boy) are completely against Ron Paul for one reason. He wants to end the special relationship with Israel and end the billions of dollars of funding. And of course he is completely against attacking Iran. This is unforgivable to the Zionists. This also accounts for the viciousness of the attacks in the MSM.
Where are all the guys endlessly repeating the mantra; there is no left / right only fools believe.. Ron Paul looks pretty darn hard right libertarian to me and no, he does not come close to going full circle no matter what Beck says..
This penis nosed dwarf has an opinion, oh he has an asshole too, oh good, who cares? Enough said..
The pro-life stance is incompatible with "hard-right libertarian" dogma, though.
There's not even any argument for why the government has a legitimate interest in who is *pregnant*.
You, me everyone has outliers in our opinions and actions, using a generallly accepted measure my description is accurate and not that I disagree with the man just restating the obvious with regards to left right. I agree, Gov has no interest in who is pregnant it does have a legitimate interest in whom is killing whom..
it does have a legitimate interest in whom is killing whom..
Why?
We do imbue gov with certain duties one of the most important justice and the protection of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Having a conversation about your apparent hot button, abortion falls pretty squarely in the life category. For example a minor capable of pregnancy but not capable of higher decision making unless pulling her panties down presupposes that, should not be able to have an abortion without mom or dad's permission why? Because leave aside the fact that another humans beating heart is involved, she cannot legally contract under 18..
So very simply the basic rights we are endowed with make the central authority beholden to society as a whole to hold that conversation. That said the decision should reside with individual states.
Let me ask you a question if I attempted to kill another, you perhaps, would you feel gov had an interest in that decison and outcome?
It starts a bit vague.
if I attempted to kill another, you perhaps, would you feel gov had an interest in that decison and outcome?
It has to depend on killing another "what." If you attempted to kill a centipede or a goat, no. If you attempted to kill a taxpayer, though, then yes, the government interest becomes pretty obvious.
(This isn't about how I feel, BTW. This is about what I think.)
Fair enough how you "think" but you failed to answer the question. Funny you choose a goat If I slaughtered a goat in my yard the gov would certainly have an interest. It is only in the selective slaughtering of humans where some folks feel the gov should see no interest. If the aformentioned minor attempts to contract with an adult the gov has an interest, right..
You've got nothing, huh?
It's okay to kill muslims, unless they are muslim fetuses. Its a rather twisty path the logic of giving the government the right to kill and the right to decide who can kill.
Can I kill a fetus with an unmanned drone? Can I waterboard a fetus? Can I imprison a fetus without a trial or charges for life? How is life imprisonment without trial different than murder?
i think I'd like to get the government out of my pants, out of my wallet, and out of my garden and if i were a woman I'd probably want the government out of my womb.
I'd vote for Ron Paul. I'll vote for anyone to get the Assassin-In-Chief out of office. But. I've never counted on Bill Maher to decide who's cool.
Voting Fraud Suspected in NH Republican Primary
http://chasvoice.blogspot.com/2012/01/voting-fraud-suspected-in-nh-repub...
c.f. Iowa Primary fraud
http://www.infowars.com/media-cover-up-ron-pauls-standing-not-discussed-...
the real headline would be "No Voter Fraud suspected."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAyYbSn_Mds
Watch it before you respond to the title.
Whats far more important and interesting is that Steven Colbert (out of character) put his support behind Paul.
That guy is not only *ACTUALLY* funny, hes not a self-righteous douchebag.
(It also means that because the guy supports Paul, Paul is clearly a Liberal comedian, disguised as a neo-con, disguised as a Libertarian) Err....Something.
Many comedians as well as ordinary Americans are waking up to the fact that they admire Ron Paul for his intellectual honesty; party is secondary for these folks.
Disclosure, setting the stage for what follows: I think Bill Maher is both clever and funny. He takes stabs at everybody, no matter the ideology, and that includes himself. I laugh a lot when I watch his act, even if he is making fun of my own beliefs. I can take it.
I'm glad most of Tyler's articles are informative and entertaining, because the zeitgeist here reminds me of one of the major accomplishments of the internet: it has given a forum to those who used to walk the streets alone raging at the wind and barking at the moon. It's group therapy for the shut-ins. It lets those consumed with hate for anything and everything---save for guns, gold and Ron Paul---vent their frustrations with life itself. Everybody's a "douchebag" or a "fucktard", unless they're a "sock puppet" or a "paid troll". Everything is terrible and is "going to collapse much faster than everybody thinks". Zombie hordes will be roasting babies and raping the family dog, even though that hasn't happened anywhere else ever despite the degree of poverty or economic decline, with a few minor exceptions. And it's all according to "A Plan", drawn up by the uber evolved Illuminati. I saw in another recent post a man who detailed his own experience in post-Soviet Russia. It was real, first hand experience. The man said that gold coins or bars were both useless and even dangerous, and that silver was totally meaningless. Food and necessities were the means of exchange. The poster was junked. Apparently the shut-ins know better than someone who actually survived a societal collapse.
I guess people here have some fantasy that after the collapse, they will all be marching in a line led by Ron Paul, who will be carrying one of those flags like the front man on a Japanese or Chinese tour group carries to keep the tourists in line and not lost, and everyone will be carrying AK-47s or MP-5s or sniper rifles, toting "stacks" and MRE's, looking for Galt's Gulch, and like Francis "Psycho" Sawyer in Stripes, asking "when do we get to shoot somebody?" In an historical period that was the easiest ever to reach a position of financial autonomy and independence and to be able to say goodbye to society if that is one's choice (remember the "Beanie Baby" guy?), they failed to achieve it, but somehow in the next, far more difficult economic iteration, they will be on top. Dreams die hard.
I've read here a thousand, if not a million times, "I've tried to educate people with The Truth, but even my family looks at me like I'm crazy". Maybe they look that way because most of those who say this ARE crazy? Maybe other people buy guns to protect themselves from the wackos and moonbats who frequent places like Rense and Jones and now, to some extent, Zerohedge? Personally, I believe the danger is greater from those who believe in Lizard People than from either Barack Obama or Dick Cheney and their respective minions. There exists a slight possibility of dealing with the mere callously indifferent, no chance with the loons.
There is a fantastical tale floating around that has surfaced numerous times in comments on Zerohedge, with links and all. Some have wondered why "Tyler hasn't picked up on it yet". The tale revolves around some secret and inscrutable Oriental family named Dragon, who are the richest people in this or any parallel Universe and who own a mountain of gold the size of Rhode Island, if not Texas. Links detailing this tale show "World Bank" documents detailing bank accounts, one of which supposedly contains more than a quintillion dollars. That's a million trillion. It's also more than the total GDP of the human species since Adam and Eve's apple shop combined, yet this family has not only earned, but saved that much. And that is just one account. This "World Bank" document also notes that a single account at HSBC ("White Spiritual Boy") paid fees and service charges of $464 trillion last year (seven and a half times worldwide GDP). Wow, imagine the bonus that private banker got! It's biscuits and gravy seven nights a week for that guy!
Most regular readers of Zerohedge can guess what posters champion this tale, so I won't name names. Oh, and they can show links, too, as if that lends gospel credibility. Ironically, or perhaps astonishingly, these same posters---who believe a single family has quintillions of dollars---are worried about the hyperinflationary effects of Bernanke printing a mere trillion or two. I suspect there is a lack of perspective there. There is also, in the fact of belief by some posters, prima facie evidence of a troubled mind.
Folks here often pose the question, "what if the real world is nothing like you believe it is". That question is usually addressed to "the sheeple". I pose the same question, albeit toward those who think Alex Jones and Rense and David Icke and Webster Tarpley have a grip of the truth. What if the world is nothing like you believe it is?
I will continue to think Bill Maher is funny. He's nowhere near as funny as quintillion dollar bank accounts, $464 trillion bank fees, Lizard People, 33rd Degree Freemasons or heavily diluted old wealth families, but few things are.
/rant
No need to read a wall of text from this mind-numbingly repetitive, tiresome windbag. Let me boil all of chindit13's posts down to their essence, because they are all the same:
If you disagree with "chindit13" on a controversial topic, it means you believe that lizard people rule the world (as if that is a common theme in posts on this site).
Reduce all of his posts down and you'll find that the "chindit13" poster is nothing but one long-running stream of logical fallacies meant to reinforce establishment memes through various shaming techniques and guilt by association smears. All the same threadbare strings that the establishment media plucks to try and silence critics of the establishment.
Don’t know your belief system, but the current norm on ZH comments is that everything is part of some master plan controlled by whatever the poster’s favorite bad guy happens to be. That is nonsense and bears no relation to reality. Little is hidden in this world; most is exactly as it appears to be, though that seems to disappoint a lot of people who seem to have a need for some greater power, even if that power is malevolent. The fact is nobody is as clever or omnipotent as the now average poster on ZH would have one believe. Too many variables in the world, too many divergent interests, and too many envious competitors for the throne make anything but temporary control an impossibility. Yes, those in society who have achieved some standing or power will do what they can to maintain their exalted status, but eventually they either err or they are toppled by the next pretender to the throne.
My beef with the direction ZH, at least the vocal readership of it, has taken over the last year and a half is that the challenges facing society and the markets are presented as being under the control of some nefarious group---whether it is Bilderbergers, Rothchilds or something more (if you visit here often you know full well that is the predominant belief)---that has each step planned out and is following a script. That is nonsense, but more importantly, it abrogates in a sense real responsibility for cleaning up the mess, because it affords the opposition far more power than they actually have. Create a monster that one cannot defeat, and victory is not possible. Address reality instead, and there is some chance the wrongs can be righted.
There are topics in which I am not well versed, and I abstain from jumping into the fray, such as peak oil. There are other topics in which I have a good deal of knowledge and first hand experience, and when I see the drivel presented as fact regarding these matters, I will often, though not always, speak up.
Along the same line, I have a great deal of respect for what the Tylers have done with this site and the jabs they have taken at the system, which the system should no longer be able to ignore. When the site---at least the comments---drifts off into fantasy, bigotry, conspiracy and such, it diminishes the site and lessens the impact of its message. It makes the site and its message---because of bad associations---dismissable. That is a waste.
By the way, feel free to point out my "logical fallacies".
When the site---at least the comments---drifts off into fantasy, bigotry, conspiracy and such, it diminishes the site and lessens the impact of its message.
While I appreciate the bulk of your message, I have to raise the advocacy flag for the freaks and creeps and crazies.
I completely agree that the "everything is controlled by bogeymen" premise common to some posters is counterproductive, but I strongly prefer to be able to read/hear the opinions of these people than never being exposed to it. Our society is largely ruled by decorum, and in *most* environments, it's unacceptable to talk about problems of any importance or express emotions like anger, hate, suspicion, etc. The workplace, communal/public areas, institutions of worship/education/business...you're not going to get into sincere conversation with people you don't know about most subjects.
A pseudonymous and uncensored environment for discussion is very valuable.
This isn't a randomized controlled sample, but do you not see value in being exposed to the postings of believers in the lizard-men? Or the devout antisemites? It's easy to forget how many people's vision of the world is shaped by beliefs like these.
The reminder that there are people who REALLY DO see Jews (or blacks or women or liberals or whatever) as the cause of all the problems in the world is like a punch in the eye to those of us who are not surrounded by proud bigots. It can be a bit painful, but it sure is important.