Black Friday Gun Sales Break Records

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Even as Joe Sixpack was maxing out that last credit card on useless gadgets (but not flat screen TVs as Corning was so nice to warn), he was making sure to have enough in store for that one final Plan Z purchase. Guns. As KNDU reports, "Gun dealers flooded the FBI with background check requests from shoppers,  smashing the single day record with a 32% increase from last year." USA Today has more: "Deputy Assistant FBI Director Jerry Pender said the checks, required by federal law, surged to 129,166 during the day, far surpassing the previous high of 97,848 on Black Friday of 2008." And in reality, the number is likely far greater: "The actual number of firearms sold last Friday is likely higher because multiple firearms can be included in a transaction by a single buyer. And the FBI does not track actual gun sales." And while Saudi Arabia is warning that women driving leads to the end of the world, in America women are now the marginal guy buyer: "Some gun industry analysts attributed the unusual surge to a convergence of factors, including an increasing number of first-time buyers seeking firearms for protection and women who are being drawn to sport shooting and hunting. Larry Keane, a spokesman for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, said 25% of the purchases typically involve first-time buyers, many of them women. "I think there also is a burgeoning awakening of the American public that they do have a constitutional right to own guns," Keane said. Yet Keane said last Friday's number appeared to defy complete explanation. "It's really pretty amazing," he said." Indeed it is, and unlike Europe, where with the exception of Switzerland the best the local rioters can do is some imported (from the US) tear gas, when the Arab Spring finally makes landfall, it will be time to use up those one way international frequent flier miles (assuming of course that American and soon others don't cancel them).

More from KNDU:

In the Tri-Cities, sporting goods stores say they've seen an increase in sales in the last four years. Griggs in Pasco saw a 25 % increase in sales from Black Friday last year.

 

Wholesale Sports in Kennewick has an increase of 35 percent%.

 

"Normally it's electronics and people are out there looking for that screaming hot deal, and we were discussing that maybe women were out doing that shopping and their husbands were out buying their own Christmas gifts," says Charlie Grigg, whose family owns the ACE Hardware Griggs store.

 

Grigg says more than half of the calls that come into the store are for the gun department. They even had to put in extra phone lines to do background checks. Managers from both Griggs and Wholesale Sport say the presidential elections have a big effect on sales.  Sales went up four years ago when Obama was elected into office and they say with the new elections around the corner, many fear the President will work on changing gun control laws during his second term in office.

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Sat, 12/03/2011 - 20:52 | 1942760 a growing concern
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Welcome to the jungle!

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 20:53 | 1942764 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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We goin' huntin'?

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 20:55 | 1942768 a growing concern
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We ride at dawn, bitchez!

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 20:59 | 1942773 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Hopefully we'll meet some chicks, too.

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 21:01 | 1942777 a growing concern
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With Guns N Roses and Lord of the Rings references?  Probably not so much.

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 21:55 | 1942890 Dr. Richard Head
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So is this a result of fear of civil unrest, federal government unlimited detention of American citizens, or both. Increased interest in sport shooting is poppycock.

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 22:28 | 1942926 Manthong
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I was driving around Michigan about this time a number of years ago and stumbled across Ted Nugent's show on the radio.

He was plugging a local gun shop with this wrap to the commercial: "And remember, ammo makes good stocking stuffers!".

Hey , here's another holiday gift idea:  http://www.amazon.com/Kill-Grill-Guide-Preparing-Cooking/dp/0895261642

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 23:25 | 1943121 Mauibrad
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Get your guns on, bitchez!  F--- S. 1867!

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 00:00 | 1943199 trav7777
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well maybe white women are waking up...tens of thousands of rapes at the hands of black men annually. 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 00:24 | 1943237 Real Money Wins
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Citizens Arm Yourselves

The time for talk is OVER!!!

Let the traitors swing from the Liberty Oak Trees!!

 

Sic semper tyrannis

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 01:46 | 1943338 Hugh G Rection
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sic semper tyrannis...

indeed.

 

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Punisher cover plates make a great accessory for your Glock.

http://www.rockyourglock.com/custom/BlackSCPs/RYG-BLKPUNISHER.htm

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 06:11 | 1943503 jeff montanye
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per the story above: women are now the marginal guy buyers.  i'm assuming the core of demand remains catholic priests.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 07:58 | 1943556 GetZeeGold
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I would never invade the United States, there would be a gun behind every blade of grass....Isoroku Yamamoto

Sport shooting.....that's f__king hilarious.

 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 10:04 | 1943705 FEDbuster
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BTW the picture with Santa is from the Scottsdale (AZ) Gun Club.  If you are ever in the Phoenix area take the time to check it out.  Very nice store and range.  The range has Class 3 weapons (machine guns) available to shoot.  They also have a very large seclection of guns to "rent" there and try on the range.  Gives you the chance to try before you buy. 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:08 | 1943912 False_Profit
Sun, 12/04/2011 - 04:03 | 1943434 Michael
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This gun story alone is why I really love America so much.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 01:10 | 1943289 dark pools of soros
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they only say it's rape when their dad finds out

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 23:25 | 1943122 wanklord
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First of all, Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue. Gun manufacturers in the United States are making humongous earnings thanks to the stupidity of these mules.
The Federal government has already a comprehensive -and constantly updated- national database of all gun owners in America, so when it is time to implement Martial Law due mainly to social unrest (Google NSPD51), they will order the surrendering of all weapons in exchange for food coupons – HASTA LA VISTA Second Amendment.
Those who decide not to obey this emergency decree will be considered enemies of the state and a potential threat to National Security, thus all law enforcement agencies in the union (including the US military) will have green light to use deadly force against gun owners who may opt to put some sort of resistance during the confiscation process.
In the end, Americans do not have a single clue of what Martial Law is all about and it will be virtually impossible to educate these brutes about the subject itself.

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 23:33 | 1943140 fnord88
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that depends on whether or not serving military personnel feel like shooting US civilians. Somehow i don't think they will feel like it. In fact i am guessing quite a few will instead feel like shooting whoever gives them the order.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 00:05 | 1943206 trav7777
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they do what they are ordered to do

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 00:52 | 1943273 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Hugh Clowers Thompson, Jr., DFC, BSM, PH, AM (April 15, 1943 – January 6, 2006) was a United States Army helicopter pilot during the Vietnam War. He is most well known for his role in stopping the My Lai Massacre, in which a group of US Army soldiers tortured and killed several hundred unarmed Vietnamese civilians, mutilating their bodies after they had been murdered.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Thompson,_Jr.

 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 01:12 | 1943293 milbank
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First of all, He isn't well known and secondly, he obviously didn't stop the the My Lai Massacre.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 01:46 | 1943337 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Obviously he did stop the massacre.

 

Thompson: What's going on here, Lieutenant?
Calley: This is my business.
Thompson: What is this? Who are these people?
Calley: Just following orders.
Thompson: Orders? Whose orders?
Calley: Just following...
Thompson: But, these are human beings, unarmed civilians, sir.
Calley: Look Thompson, this is my show. I'm in charge here. It ain't your concern.
Thompson: Yeah, great job.
Calley: You better get back in that chopper and mind your own business.
Thompson: You ain't heard the last of this!
Realizing that the soldiers intended to murder the Vietnamese, Thompson landed his aircraft between them and the villagers. Thompson turned to Colburn and Andreotta and told them that if the Americans began shooting at the villagers or him, they should fire their M60 machine guns at the Americans:[8] "Y'all cover me! If these bastards open up on me or these people, you open up on them. Promise me!"
Sun, 12/04/2011 - 02:47 | 1943400 Libertarian777
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well according to McCain, who ironically was imprisoned as a POW in Vietnam, we'd just call those villagers 'associated with terrorists', then even if they were US citizens, since the entire world is the battlefield, the president could unilaterally order a drone strike to wipe out the entire village.

It would make no difference if said village was in the mainland of the USA or in Yemen.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 06:17 | 1943506 jeff montanye
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you make an interesting point.  judging from obama's latest moves, he wants to make sure nothing like the heroism cited above in the face of illegal orders surfaces.  this time they'll be legal orders.  the constitution?  he's protecting and defending it. like he swore he would.  change you can't refuse.  

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 00:18 | 1943232 Oh regional Indian
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And then there was Kent State. And that was then. 

This is NOW. Or is that NWO?

ORI

/the-plan/

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:46 | 1944273 Socratic Dog
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"that depends on whether or not serving military personnel feel like shooting US civilians"

It amazes me how many on this site pin their faith on US soldiers somehow being too noble to shoot US civilians.  I'd suggest that that the US military has a long and proud history of killing and maiming civilians, in vast numbers, all over the world.  WTF do you think Hiroshima was?  I'd further suggest that your idea that this would magically stop at our borders is, to say the least, misguided. 

Get real guys.  The military has to be assumed to be the enemy, until it proves otherwise. 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 00:07 | 1943214 goat
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The Federal government has already a comprehensive -and constantly updated- national database of all gun owners in America,

 

Unless they have Madame Cleo performing psychic readings on gunstore A&D books, this is untrue.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:51 | 1944289 Socratic Dog
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Sure.  All that paperwork you fill in, all that lovely useful data, is just thrown away.  Right?

I think not.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 15:06 | 1944617 Coast Watcher
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Many states still allow the private and unregulated sale of firearms between individuals without the FBI background checks. Even the People's Republic of Maine allows it.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 18:53 | 1945159 goat
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Its all kept by the gun dealer...none transmitted to the government (except under certain circumstances)...unless and until you go out of business.  And then it cant be collated.  It is open to inspection.  

 

That is current procedure.  of course this could change at any time.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 00:23 | 1943236 preppin.for.the...
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What "wanklord" fails to take into account is that

a) America is chock full of military veterans armed to the teeth and fully aware of why the framers of the constitution decided to add the 2nd amendment;

b) a good percentage have stocked up on food and water, so food stamps for guns won't mean shit; and

c) the vast majority of the military will not obey an unconstitutional order - this is part of the "obey LAWFUL orders" that is drilled into the heads of American servicemen.  

That's what "wankers" outside the US haven't quite figured out: "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 06:08 | 1943502 prole
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The military will obey orders just like they did in the Bonus March, Just like they did at Waco, Just like they did at Katrina. As far as the Mei Lie Massacre, every day is Mei lie in Iraqnamistan.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 06:24 | 1943511 jeff montanye
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we are at war.  with u.s. citizens in this country, if need be.  we are all subject to assassination at the (secret or publicized, as needed) order of obama without appeal or recourse.  don't kid yourself it stops with the muslims.  http://www.salon.com/2011/12/03/the_we_are_at_war_mentality/singleton/

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:30 | 1944501 DosZap
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prole,

Well, if they do, it will be the first time their out numbered 3000x's to 1.

I wouldn't like those odds.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 00:33 | 1943245 Clay Hill
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Why all the fuss? It's just Wanklord speaking out of turn again.

Gun laws vary a great deal according to which State you reside in.

Over the last twenty years or so, I have bought and sold dozens of guns via flea market, yard sale, and estate sale.

Hell, Wankie, I've even taken them in trade for handy man work once. I've never needed to provide identification unless buying from a licensed dealer in a brick 'n' mortar location.

Come and get'em Statist bitchez.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 00:31 | 1943246 Teamtc321
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You know wank off lord bitch, fuck you and the horse you need to ride off on. You do not know shit about rural american's you fucking troll. For one, if there is a shit storm, we all loyal american's hope that after the dust settles, there will be some sort of piece with people. 

If there is not and shit does hit the fan, say being attacked from a foriegn gov. etc, you have no idea you dumb fuck how true american people will stick it out. Not everyone sit's behind a desk, or hides behind a p.c. dick head.  

You are a complete troll and to boot a dumb fuck I would like to meet in the mountains if shit does hit the fan you punk. 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 01:41 | 1943334 NullShrub
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Sorry, but guess again.  I have two in special operations that will follow my orders to shoot, before they follow an order to shoot American civilians.  Your scenario is not going to happen.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 01:47 | 1943340 Baleful Runes 4 U
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You guys do realize that guns won't offer any protection whatsoever against engineered bugs and even more exotic weapons?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 06:34 | 1943515 jeff montanye
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oh let them shoot their rifles at the robotic russian doll of death.  i believe anwar al-awlaki (and his teenaged son) was armed or in the company of armed men.  maybe those depending on massed rural guerilla warfare in the u.s. should consider the ballot box while there is still a chance.  http://www.defensesystems.com/Articles/2011/10/27/AGG-Tigershark-mini-dr...

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 10:42 | 1943835 Calmyourself
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No, really my shotgun won't protect me from flu, do tell..  Then stfu and go back to mom's basement.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 02:01 | 1943363 Cast Iron Skillet
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"they will order the surrendering of all weapons in exchange for food coupons"

so that means you need to have a lot of weapons so that you can get a lot of food ...

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 05:28 | 1943480 OldPhart
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You have the idea.

One has one legally registered weapon that can be seized.

One also has 300 other weapons that are NOT registered and stashed in a safe location.  All the goobermint knows is what is registered.  They have no idea about all those thousands of guns that have gone missing from police lockers over the years, nor of the unrecovered stolen guns, nor of the guns dropped during street crimes,nor of smuggled weapons.

They only know what they think they know.  Their pronouncements of adequacy are mere bluster.  And the moment they seize the legally registered weapons is the moment all the hidden ones lock and load.

Not saying it won't happen, because the wanabe predators we have in government believe they are infallible in thier supremeness.  I'd wager there are way more individuals in Virginia alone that believe in their sovereign, god-given rights than there are bureaucrats in DC.  I imagine the House cleaning will be thorough enough, though pretty devastating.

Parasites in our government now think they have the power to issue dictates and to enforce those dictates with 'shoot to kill' orders.  They forget thay are outnumbered, in DC, by a factor of millions to one.

The Senate's near declaration of War on American citizens is the last alarm bell.  It's time to lock and load, and start marching, or targeting.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 06:38 | 1943519 jeff montanye
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one would think.  but it seems that the majority of armed, god-believing virginians still vote, when they do vote, for the corporations and their tools.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 09:45 | 1943405 joshua10
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WankLord, Keep in mind. A green light for the government to use force is also a green light for the people. The use of force door swings in both directions. The government does not have a monopoly in this department. This is not Rwanda, or China under Mao,  Russia under Stalin, or Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. Most Americans understand that The People are the sovereigns of the United States and it's our duty to resist tyranny, subjugation, and to remain free using any means necessary. Believe it!

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:56 | 1944302 Socratic Dog
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The government IS using force.  100 SWAT raids daily.  Things that one fella used to take care of with a tap on the shoulder and a "please come with me Sir".   Wako?

Unfortunately, this IS Rwanda etc.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 20:13 | 1945338 joshua10
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Yes the government is using force. If you throw out a number of SWAT raids you need to breakdown what the raids are for. Are they looking for heavily armed and violent Mexican drug gangsters? Are they looking for violent armed gang members? Are they looking for terrorists building an IED or a weapon of mass destruction? Are they looking for someone who's parking meter ran out? I don't know. 

One thing I can tell you, this is not Rwanda. We don't have organized groups of terrorists running around from town to town, neighborhood to neighborhood with machetes committing genocide, beheading people, castrating men, raping men & women, cutting womens breasts off, and cutting out nine month old fetuses from mothers. We don't have that here in the US. If crime in my neck of the woods even scratches the surface on that kind of wanton and naked evil, the bandits had better be able to run faster than the 2600 feet/second it would take my .308 Win projectile to reach them. We are not allowing that kind of criminality here.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 04:18 | 1943439 Michael
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All I know is I got this three inch thick burl wood coffee table I can stand up for protection while I'm shooting back with my 17&1 SR9. Hopefully I can take out a dozen of them before they get to me.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 08:42 | 1943608 Floordawg
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The way I was taught... In a fight, a sidearm is your secondary weapon used when tactical reloads aren't conducive or your fighting to your rifle.

My friendly advice is to get a good primary weapon (AR variant, SCAR, ACR, etc.) with a good reflex optic (Aimpoint, EOtech) and a matching 3X magnifier with a throw-switch if you want to engage targets at greater distances. Of course plenty of mags and a bench loader will really up your lead dispenser status.

If it ever gets to that, we're all in this together...

Party on!

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 09:54 | 1943691 FEDbuster
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Michael time to step up your game.  The pistol is nice and works well in the movies, but like Floordawg said you need a rifle.  If you anticipate engagements at you doorstep .223 will be fine.  If you want to have a fighting chance at longer distances go with a .308 AR10 or even a good bolt action gun.  Spend the money for a good optic and good match ammo.  Then practice, practice, practice.... 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 10:28 | 1943786 Instant Wealth
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The ultimate weapon for engements at your doorstep is a crate of handgrenades.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:58 | 1944309 Socratic Dog
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You might want to buy a new coffee table as well.  You'll need 12 inches to stop .308.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:39 | 1944396 FEDbuster
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Nothing says "Welcome" more than an improvised Claymore.

Since we are on the subject, I think many here might enjoy the first chapter of "Absolved" which can be read here:

http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2008/02/absolved.html

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:56 | 1944424 KowPie
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"All I know is I got this three inch thick burl wood coffee table I can stand up for protection while I'm shooting back with my 17&1 SR9. Hopefully I can take out a dozen of them before they get to me."

 

A 300gr .44 MAG penetrator (FMJ) with 22gr of Alliant 300-MP and a Federal 150 primer packed in a starline case traveling at 1350 fps muzzle will go through your coffe table like swiss cheese. I have 500 of these loaded in stock. Wood, bricks, sheet metal and sheetrock are no cover from the right round. Good concealment, but shitty cover. Unless you add a .75" plate steel liner to your coffee table keep using it for coffee.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 16:31 | 1944842 FEDbuster
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An inch of hardend steel or a foot of sand, isn't it funny how sand works so well at stopping bullets?  Stock up on sand bags and sand for cheap cover, should you ever need it.

Check out the Box of Truth:  http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot7.htm

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 16:45 | 1944868 Calmyourself
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You need training friend.   First lesson, the difference between cover and concealment and three inches of coffee table is concealment unless it is a rolled homogenous coffee table..

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 08:01 | 1943573 Fred C Dobbs
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You talk like you know the future.  You do not.  In reply to wank something above.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 10:27 | 1943782 g speed
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Yeah Wanker--like the IRA turned in their guns -right-- same old Red Coat bullshit from the "lost empire wantabes"-- England is on its knees and you talk shit about Americans-- English fop. Have some tea and crumpets--don't for get to cross your legs.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:01 | 1944439 KowPie
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Go fuck yourself wanklord. Not every firearm is registered you ignorant limey fuck. As to trading a firearm for food??? Only a dipshit like you would even consider that. And yes, I'm a "brute" (only a pussy like you would use that description in that context) and I would gladly put a round through your rotten mellon from 700 meters all day long.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:22 | 1944486 Things that go bump
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In the Philippines, when Marcos confiscated guns people simply wrapped them up and buried them.  Hide em with your gold.

Thu, 12/22/2011 - 14:32 | 2004961 twotraps
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Gun Envy?  Have another pint darling

Thu, 12/22/2011 - 12:55 | 2004478 Piranhanoia
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Ahh,  the poster boy for methedrine induced reality.  Teddy.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 15:39 | 1944713 pcrs
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good luck with your handgun against the indefenite detention of the government

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 21:58 | 1942897 WaterWings
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The best backup is always "well equipped".

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 23:25 | 1943123 NoClueSneaker
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If u meet them in the GS GQ, 200 West Street - shoot first, and take them b4 they get cold.

Shooting baby squids is the major fun, methinks ...

 

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 21:16 | 1942807 economics1996
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I just bought a Rugar 380 with lazar sights.  Urban duty.

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 22:24 | 1942948 Rome is burining
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http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/be/fn-five-seven-e.html

 

check this out - nearly zero recoil, 20 in the magazine.  It is a fast round.  Oh.... there is also a rifle that uses the same (interchangeable) ammo but it has only a 50 round magazine.  I hear the Israeli's really like this.  It comes with a guarantee that it will keep the cats out of the backyard.

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 22:34 | 1942978 CompassionateFascist
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I'm worried about coons, not cats. When the EBT cards stop working.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 06:51 | 1943528 jeff montanye
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i'd worry more about the zionists than the "coons".  they explain more of the current predicament, if not offering as much visceral satisfaction as "the other".

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 00:10 | 1943220 goat
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five seven ammo is not really plentiful right now

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 23:53 | 1943186 JoeSexPack
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Got an internal Lasermax sight for my Glock 17.

 

A little pricey, but good for aiming.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 01:56 | 1943357 Hugh G Rection
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Have a lasermax in my carry piece, Glock 26.  Keep a few 32 round mags in the side panel of my car, great piece of mind.

It's always good to have tritium nite sites anyways, never want to rely solely on batteries.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:58 | 1944307 sun tzu
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I got a Glock 26 too. Those 32 round mags are a bit much for me. 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 01:53 | 1943350 Hugh G Rection
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Ruger pistols are shit, and 380 is shit for stopping power. Get a Springfield XDM 45 with nite sites. Load it with golden sabers, and buy plenty of mags.  Quick Shok is also a great round, I have seen what they do to flesh... makes a big mess.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 05:18 | 1943470 Idiocracy
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economics1996, I hope you shoot better than you spell.  Otherwise your neighbors are in for a lot of collateral damage.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 09:22 | 1943664 peekcrackers
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"With a gun barrel between your teeth, you speak only in vowels."
Sat, 12/03/2011 - 21:02 | 1942778 philipat
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Here we go again. Actually, the US Constitution does NOT give the right to individuals to bear arms. What it actually describes is the right of the people to establish "Armed militias". In most countries this is known as the military.

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 21:09 | 1942796 a growing concern
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"...the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Sounds like individuals to me.

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 21:29 | 1942836 MachoMan
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It's what the SCOTUS think it sounds like too...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 21:41 | 1942863 DaveyJones
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until the corporations tell them to think different

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 21:58 | 1942899 Schmuck Raker
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At which point SCOTUS & CorpUS will no longer be parties to the conversation.

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 22:34 | 1942973 TheSilverJournal
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There is no spoon. See the system for what it is.

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 23:01 | 1943058 FranSix
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This too, is for the attention and reading challenged:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Noo2HNj5vM

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 22:57 | 1943042 GOSPLAN HERO
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SCOTUS can "interpret" constitution any way they want.

Your rights are negotiable in their eyes.

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 23:34 | 1943145 ironsky
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How big is their army.

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 23:48 | 1943174 nmewn
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Just under 1,000 in my estimation. They are nothing without us. Its called consent.

The enemy within to them ;-)

It could change tomorrow if we all really wanted it to...the sheeple remain convinced they have no power or just prefer to graze off the scraps thrown over the fence.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 01:30 | 1943319 Freddie
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The morons love being brainwashed 24x7 in HD. All TV is shit. Most viewers/morons love the muslim.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 06:15 | 1943504 prole
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For a "Moslem" he sure bombs a lot of Moslems. That is one funny Moslem.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 16:48 | 1944876 Calmyourself
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Yeah, how many divisions does the pope have anyway...

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 22:43 | 1943000 UP Forester
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From the Michigan Constitution:

§ 4 Militia.

 

Sec. 4.

The militia shall be organized, equipped and disciplined as provided by law.

The law:

32.509 State military establishment; composition; organized and unorganized militia.

 

Sec. 109.

The organized militia of this state taken collectively shall be known as the state military establishment and constitutes the armed forces of this state. The organized militia consists of the army national guard, the air national guard, and the defense force when actually in existence as provided in this act. The unorganized militia consists of all other able-bodied citizens of this state and all other able-bodied citizens who are residents of this state who have or shall have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, who shall be age 17 or over and not more than age 60, and shall be subject to state military duty as provided in this act.

 

So does that make me part of the unorganized militia, with full U.S. 2nd Ammendment rights, or am I reading this wrong?

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