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Blast From The Past - Cramer On Kodak "EK Has Gone From A Classic Business To A Revolutionary One"

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Because we can always do with a Saturday afternoon laugh at Cramer's expense...

From CNBC, November 6, 2007

Eastman Kodak has gone from a classic business to a revolutionary one, and that’s why this stock is finally ready to turn up.

 

At least that’s what Cramer said. He’s bullish on the once-failing company’s push into the digital space and, more importantly, high-quality inkjet printers. Ever since Antonio Perez – he used to run Hewlett-Packard’s  inkjet division – took the helm in 2003, the CEO’s strategies in these two areas have been paying off.

 

One in particular is the reason Cramer is so excited about this stock. Normally, printer makers sell their wares on the cheap with the intention of charging exorbitant prices for the accompanying ink. That’s how they make their money. But Perez and Eastman Kodak have turned this model on its head. Thanks to a newly improved balance sheet, EK is able to sell its printers and the ink for less than the competition as a way to attract and retain customers.

 

The results are apparent, too, as Kodak reported a fabulous beat Nov. 1. The Street was expecting 27 cents a share and EK gave it 46 cents. Not bad for a company that’s only a couple of points above its 52-week low. The only similarity between the old failing Kodak and the new outperforming one is the strength of the brand, and Cramer thinks it’s about time this company got some respect.

 

But if that doesn’t happen, it just means there’s more time for investors to make money waiting for Wall Street to catch on.

Or not...

 

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Sat, 10/01/2011 - 14:59 | 1729266 spankthebernank
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An unbelievable sociopath. I love that his ad currently abuts this piece.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 16:58 | 1729501 smlbizman
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i liked dan dorfman better....

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 01:05 | 1730237 rcintc
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"No Dopes in Epitope!"  

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 13:51 | 1730976 FEDbuster
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BooooooooooooooooYaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!

The Cramer endorsment for buying gold came right before a 15% drop in the price of gold.  He is the kiss of death.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 17:54 | 1729623 Looney
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It gives a whole new meaning to "The Kodak Moment"!

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 13:34 | 1730936 WTFx10
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Since they make decent ink-jet printers, and a certain printer company dosen't offer any ink-jets in its offerings. Maybe a buyout is an option for Kodak?

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 14:58 | 1729267 Yield2Greatness
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That man should have been retired long ago.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:01 | 1729272 bugs_
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take my show away!!!!

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:02 | 1729278 Fips_OnTheSpot
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I lol'd. This is like "AOL never fails"

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:03 | 1729281 Buckaroo Banzai
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Has anybody ever compiled a "Cramer's Greatest Hits" of stupid calls? I would love to see a comparison of Cramer's good calls (are there any? I'm sure there must be some) to his stupid calls. Also has anyone rated these calls on some sort of scale of stupidity?

We know this man is a buffoon, but we don't know HOW BIG a buffoon he is. I really feel like someone needs to put a little research around this, and define it in concrete terms.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:05 | 1729286 Yield2Greatness
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It's all out there.  Google...

But why beat the dead horse?

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:20 | 1729313 Buckaroo Banzai
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Yeah there's stuff out there but nothing really comprehensive. Why beat the dead horse? I dunno, it seems like we need to fully understand this guy, and the position he has achieved, so we can better avoid this crap in the future.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 16:47 | 1729479 Problem Is
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 Why beat the dead horse?

Because every CNBC douche bag needs a douche bag rating on a douche index...

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 18:02 | 1729636 CrazyCooter
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Well, Wall Street has been doing this since there was a stock market pretty much, right? I mean, this is nothing new at all. There was plenty of this type of faux-news/mis-information in the early 20th century.

The reality is that no one should invest in anything they do not fully understand. Even with this in mind, information was asymmetric 100 years ago, just as it is today. Not saying a little guy can't make it, but they are clearly disadvantaged.

Regards,

Cooter

EDIT: Actually, to take your idea in a different direction, someone with the resources/knowhow/infrastructure could create a Cramer index which is simply a running trade of his buys/sells. Then you could just short the shit out of it and go on vacation!

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 13:55 | 1730984 FEDbuster
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Don Harrold used to rip on Cramer all the time on Youtube, I am not sure what happened to Don?  Anyway some ETF firm should do a Cramer Inverse Investment Advice Fund,

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 16:19 | 1729427 Atlantis Consigliore
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His call on Wynn was perfect top;   puts worked fine.

please say more about the mkts.....better than the screaming

oldies jiggling and giggling. from greece.

the show is a joke.....

a hedge fund contra his predictions would be a good index of sentiment;

call it The Poop Scoop .... as opposed to the Vix on volatility.

 

I cant think of any contrary indicator better than the pimp show his own

and the PIMP mouth...

 

you ve got to get in the game....Bye bye GOLD,  lol....

 

hes jumped the shark and been nibbled by it, better than Fonzie.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 16:48 | 1729482 Waterfallsparkles
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He absolutely loved Nflz at $300.  Said it would go higher.  Absolutely loved Aapl at $420. Said it would go higher.  Loved Amazn at $240. Loved Google at $700.  Said it would go higher.

Said any money in Bear Stearns was ok.  Although, he only talkes about stocks on his show he said any money in Bear Stearns was ok then back tracked and said he ment as a deposit in their Bank.

The shame of it is that he loves stocks after they make a huge run and a $10. up day he recommends them.  If they fall out of bed he says to sell them.

I remember when tazr went from $107. down to $4. in three days and he comes on the air and tells everyone to sell the stock.  DUH.  Should have said to sell at $107.

He is like an analsis looking in the rear view mirror.  If a stock goes up he loves it, if it goes down he hates it. 

Although, I truly believe that he is working for Gs and the Hedge Funds to panic those who have already lost a boat load of Money on a stock to give it that last spike down or up to get his buddies out of the position.  Either short or long.

I think they should take him off the air.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 20:08 | 1729874 FMR Bankster
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Although I was never a big fan of Mark Haynes he had it right on on Cramer. " And now, here's Cramer from the church of what's working now". Complete clown, and that's from someome who managed $20 billion in institutional assets for a living.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 18:27 | 1729717 monoloco
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I wonder if anyone has ever charted how an investor who did the exact opposite of what Cramer has recommended would have done vs. one who had taken his advice 100%. 

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 18:32 | 1729727 Hot Shakedown
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Here is Cramer's top tick call on CSCO; the man has sealed his fare in hell:
http://www.thestreet.com/video/10674234/strong-dollar-stocks.html#117433...

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:05 | 1729287 Earl of Chiswick
Sat, 10/01/2011 - 21:21 | 1729954 fuu
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The four of them sound like Gibbons high on meth.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:15 | 1729299 tunaman4u2
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He was also SUPER bullish on Coal in March, down 50%+ in 6 months on all his recommendations

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:22 | 1729316 Motley Fool
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:D

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:24 | 1729318 RSloane
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He needs more face time with Jon Stewart. I absolutely am revolted by Cramer on a level I usually don't experience with talking heads. He is beyond disgusting. I usually listen to Squawk Box because of their guests and because that show is less likely to go full tilt stupid unless Liesman is hosting. I never watch past Squawk Box because the idiots at CNBC decided to have Cramer on throughout the day and when I hear his voice I shut the TV off.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 17:13 | 1729498 Waterfallsparkles
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I cannot stand him in the Morning.  Like listening to Richard Simmons doing jumping jacks while trying to position your stock trades for the day.

He talks so fast and makes sure to get in all of his buddies stock positions and pump them.

Even when he is not supposed to be on he jumps into other segments to give his opinion if what they are saying is contradictory to what his stock positions are.  Hate that with the Greenberg segment in the afternoon and he gets a portable mike to dispute what they are saying.

He is like where is Waldo and all of a sudden he is on the screen pumping what he wants.  CNBC needs to bring back the hook where they would litterally put out a hook and remove someone from the stage.

CNBC has almost become the World acording to Cramer.  Maybe they should rename the whole program.

I also notice that as he is speaking puming a stock that he cannot get his eyes off either his Computer or the Ticker when he is on the floor.  He is all consumed by how what he is saying is affecting the stock.  Like he has an Ownership interest in that stock.  Watch for yourself and you will see.

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 09:12 | 1730567 RSloane
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I absolutely agree with you. Its sickening how he jumps up and down and screams "I'm moving the markets." Sorry, Cramer, the people who you think you're influencing are working and not listening to your rabid mouth.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:22 | 1729320 Shinjuku
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Well, four years ago...

From Seeking alpha just a few

09/16/10 Eastman Kodak (EK): "No. It's really just a spec at this point. There's been too much damage done at that company... too many divisions sold. Too much has gone on. I'm not a bull. I have not been a bull for 15 points. I'm not changing my view here."

11/01/10 Eastman Kodak (EK): "You come to me with Eastman Kodak, which is a Rochester loser! I want you to sell, sell, sell."

11/05/10 Eastman Kodak (EK): "We're a seller of EK..."

12/23/10 Eastman Kodak (EK): "No, I don't want to recommend a stock on a takeover unless fundamentals are good...and the fundamentals are not good for EK."

09/09/11 Eastman Kodak (EK): "No, everyone likes it as a patent play. I don't like it...it is so overvalued...it's like one up and one down, and that's not enough for me."

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 19:06 | 1729794 Milstar
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Your logic has no place here!

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:25 | 1729326 King_of_simpletons
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It's time to show action. I am talking on behalf of the sheep.

Cash or Bonds..

Bonds are risky. Go to Cash.  Yeah, cash doesn't grow beyond inflation.. the same propaganda that's been heard a million times. Atleast you won't lose everything. End of Dialog.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:37 | 1729354 Confused
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Cash, since 1913, doesn't have a real good track record for keeping its value. 

 

I'll sell you my Bonds and cash....at a discount. Of course I only take PMs.

 

;-P

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:51 | 1729378 snowball777
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40% PMs, 40% cash, 10% bonds, 10% casino (hopefully with some dividends, if there are any corps that still do that left).

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 17:55 | 1729620 RmcAZ
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I can't think of anything worse to invest in besides cash. It's gone down 96% since 1913. That's pretty much losing everything.

http://i.imgur.com/PpGi6.jpg

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:35 | 1729350 Storch
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He is currently statistically worse than a coin flip when identifying stocks that will over or under perform the sp500. Does that make him a contra indicator? Could we sell everything he says to buy, then buy the same $ amount in sp500 for a market nuetral portfolio that capitalizes on his wrongitude?

http://caps.fool.com/player/trackjimcramer.aspx

Weeed

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/64357b2127/smoking-weed-all-day

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:50 | 1729376 Outlaw Of The W...
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a jew jewing jewfully on the jewtube.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:53 | 1729384 DavosSherman
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Cramer and the gang are fucking inept economic MORONS.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 16:44 | 1729474 Sokhmate
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I disagree. Cramer and the gang are deliberate, premeditating, calculating lechers.

 

If you got the time.. long read.

http://www.deepcapture.com/michael-milken-60000-deaths-and-the-story-of-...

Opening paragraph:

"This story, like too many others, begins with Jim Cramer, the CNBC personality, making “a mistake.”

On September 26, 2005, Cramer  announced to his television audience the sad news (punctuated by funny sound effects – a clown horn, a crashing airplane) that Provenge, an experimental treatment for prostate cancer, had flopped. Thousands of"

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:56 | 1729391 AnAnonymous
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Cramer is a modern embodiement of the US citizen spirit.

He should have his face on a US dollar note.

A true US American, this one.

This your typical US citizen makes millions your US citizen typical way: selling cheap propaganda.

His propaganda is cheap as good US propaganda has to be, easy to debunk.

But as this guy is your typical US citizen, he is making millions selling his cheap propaganda.

The last point being, this your typical US citizen, just like any other your typical US citizen, thinks he deserves every single cent he makes and that he was to disappear, the world would not survive.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 16:06 | 1729411 RSloane
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What the fuck are you going on about?

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 16:20 | 1729433 Fukushima Sam
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He's A Chinese Psycho.  Too much melamine and plastic rice in his diet.

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 02:22 | 1730298 AnAnonymous
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What about? About how US citizens allow their own to grow richer selling extremelly cheap propaganda.

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 09:52 | 1730613 Diogenes
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"What the fuck are you going on about?"

Cramer is an American with something to sell and that means bullshit. The less what he has to sell is worth, the more bullshit. Cramer is selling his investment expertise which is worthless so that means bullshit to the max.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 23:03 | 1730090 Stoploss
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Crack head.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 16:06 | 1729410 max2205
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I just feel bad to see EK, another US co expire. Like the death of Polaroid

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 16:46 | 1729478 Motorhead
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Don't feel too bad.  That's progress.  Now excuse me.  The ice man is here to deliver ice for the ice box.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 18:05 | 1729654 CrazyCooter
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LMAO!

And its been years since I have seen Motorhead in concert ...

Regards,

Cooter

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 10:23 | 1730664 Temporalist
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Back in 2003 or 2004 I met with Kodak and asked them what their plans for digital were and they looked like deer in headlights, still talking about film, no vision of the future, their core management was raised on film and could not grasp that their audience was shrinking and their business model doomed.

I tried to give them a clue.  There was a huge normalcy bias as none of them wanted to even consider that Kodak wouldn't be around if they didn't start to change and I was alreadly late in making suggestions to them.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 16:20 | 1729435 Atlantis Consigliore
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Hes Shultz  on the tv show,  the rest are Cramers Heros......

who's Kink?    Commandant Klunk......?

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 16:43 | 1729469 Problem Is
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Col. Klink = Hank Paulson...

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 16:41 | 1729467 Problem Is
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Just what the world needs... more obsolete ink jet printers...

BTW Cramer the Clown: The world went digital in photography a decade ago... Nobody told Rochester NY and EK sure couldn't figure that one out...

So your douche EK stock and you Clown, are once again a decade behind the curve...

Somebody tell me why EK isn't in bankruptcy and why the sweaty methed up Clown is still on TeeVee?

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 17:11 | 1729522 Waterfallsparkles
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Cramer has a lot of conflicts of interests.  I am not sure why CNBC continues to have him on the air.

He is a Major Stock holder in the Street.com. No one has questioned if the Street.com owns stocks and Cramer get part of that revenue.  Or if any of the Shareholders in The Street.com own stocks and Cramer is pumping their positions.

Cramers disclosure always says that he may have deciminated the information earlier.  So, he tells everyone that is a Subscriber to his Service or a Share Holder in the Street.com what he is going to recommend so they can position themselves ahead of time.  Is this front running?  Is this insider information being he is pumping these stocks on National TV?

Cramer has that "Charitable Trust".  Just how much of that "Trust" goes to Cramer for managing it?  How much of the money from that Trust ever goes to Charity?

All other announcers on CNBC cannot own stocks or have an ownership in an outside Company.  Why is Cramer different?

He needs to either get rid of his Ownership in the Street.com and his Charitable Trust (make it a Blind Trust without his over site or management) or get off CNBC as an announcer.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 17:14 | 1729536 Night Owl Trader
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Boo wah hah hah.  You think that's funny?  How about this quote from Kodak CEO Tony Perez in 2005: ''By 2008, Kodak will be the digital company I came here to run''.  He forgot to add, "into the ground".

For more laughs along these lines and the whole sad timeline of Kodak's headlong rush to the pink sheets, see my blog post on The Rise and Fall of Eastman Kodak here: http://nightowltrader.blogspot.com/2011/09/rise-and-fall-of-eastman-koda...

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 17:23 | 1729553 adr
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Kodak didn't want digital to succeed so they purposely released garbage digital cameras. They were making some of the best imaging sensors on the market but they wanted digital to remain as an industrial and military application. Allowing them to sell sensors at unbelievable markup. Consumer digital would become a race to the bottom and obliterate margins on sensors. Just like Sony didn't want to embrace mp3 because of the massive royalties they made on disc players and CD media.

The irony is Sony helped to kill Kodak and then Apple stole a market taylor made for Sony. Now google is stealing the market space of Apple. That is why you don't invest in tech, it changes too rapidly and the old dogs don't want to give up what brought them to the top.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 17:42 | 1729604 SwingForce
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I totally agree with what Cramer said about Kodak- INK is a ripoff, and Kodak sell BLACK for $10 and COLOR for $15, who else is tired of being ripped off by HP? But, then again, there was this time he said buy BAC 1/6/2011

http://www.cnbc.com/id/40949412/

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 17:43 | 1729608 Waterfallsparkles
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Anyone remember when he told everyone to remove all of their money from the Market when the S&P was at 666?  He went on all of the Television shows and said to take your Money out of the Market NOW.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 19:22 | 1729796 SwingForce
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8MAHQhKe7Q

swingforceultra.blogspot.com

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 19:17 | 1729810 tkinfo
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At least on his call regarding pulling money out of the market when the S&P hit 666, he was simply early but he is right about this. Fair Market Value based on the credit markets for the index is 550 on my models. And we'll get there soon enough. :)

http://www.thebeareconomy.com

 

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 19:17 | 1729811 Outlaw Of The W...
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cnbc should be raided and all but the great santelli taken away in handcuffs under the RICO act.

 

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 10:30 | 1730679 Temporalist
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I'd like to see Lies Man placed in a tub of his own shit, featherd and then sent to occupywallst and prodded with sticks until he never shows his face in public again.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 22:24 | 1730041 High Plains Drifter
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classic pump and then dump into the rally.....that is what cramer does. he should be in prison...........he did the same thing with netflix last week. 

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 11:34 | 1730777 Waterfallsparkles
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Yep, loved Nflx at $300. said it was going even higher.  Pumped it every night, mentioned and recommended every morning at least twice. 

Then after it sold off down to somewhere around $130. he said that it was going to be half of that and to Sell.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 23:14 | 1730104 Stoploss
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Well, i got my wifes brand new Kodak all in one printer registered Friday, just in time for the bk filing!!

Nothing like setting up a new printer while simultaneously watching the stock of the company you just bought it from fall off a cliff...

And now, it's too low to short.

Surely, my purchase will save the company, no??

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 23:33 | 1730117 reader2010
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Bullshit. By having come up with the world's first digital still camera in1975,  Kodak identified the digital photography would be the future and invested heavily for then up-coming digital era since 1989. The results had already spoken for themselves.  The most innovative $15K 1.5MP Kodak digital camera back in the days got killed by the $5K 2.7MP Nikon D1 five years later in 1999.  It appeared the cost-structure and its upper/middle management were the root cause.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 23:59 | 1730169 CalibratedConfidence
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