Boehner Releases Revised Plan: To Cut $91.7 Billion Each Year For A Decade, Buys 4 Months Before Next Debt Ceiling Hike

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Wed, 07/27/2011 - 18:13 | 1499599 mynhair
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Replace Boner as Speaker now!

The idiot refuses to learn.  Crush the Libs!

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 18:29 | 1499666 oh_bama
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Wed, 07/27/2011 - 18:32 | 1499684 mynhair
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Cuz Libs can't figure out how to use their Tomtoms to find the embarkation area.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 20:36 | 1500015 Ahmeexnal
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JPig and GS about to get busted in Brazil:


As part of currency measures unveiled today, the government levied a 1 percent tax on some net short dollar positions by investors in the country’s futures market. The government may increase the tax up to 25 percent if needed, according to the decree signed by President Dilma Rousseff and published today in the Official Gazette.



Thu, 07/28/2011 - 08:47 | 1500661 GetZeeGold
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Replace Boner as Speaker now!

He doesn't know any better anymore......he's been Institutionalized.


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 18:39 | 1499710 DormRoom
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Those Republicans sure know how to play hardball.


If Boner gets what he wants Obama 2012 election chance is greatly reduced.  If Obama goes against Boner's plan, and causes a financial meltdown, he is unelectable.


It's like choosing between AIDS, and a sea of AIDS.  Obama's gonna cave, and we'll be back to discuss this in 5 months.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 18:43 | 1499725 malikai
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Wed, 07/27/2011 - 22:15 | 1500151 Almost Solvent
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The senate will not pass Boner's plan so it's all moot anyway, no bill to veto because no bill ever reaches his desk



Thu, 07/28/2011 - 00:22 | 1500326 whaletail
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Wouldn't be so sure, Solvent. If you're a Dem Senator, and you're up for election in 2012, do you want to tell your State that YOU voted against a plan that could have staved-off default (assuming, of course, default leads to the immediate gloom and doom that some predict, including Timmy)? So, go to the other side of the aisle, shrug and say "I had no choice" and vote for any plan in front of you that will "wash your hands" of any blame. If it gets to Obama, and he vetoes the bill, it isn't your fault. I'm sure the Republicans have already targeted these Dem senators.*

There are no loyalties in politics, even to those in your own party. 

*I, of course, have not done the research to determine the weakness of these senators, so this comment could be baseless. 

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 18:47 | 1499737 mynhair
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Oweblahma is getting primaried.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 19:17 | 1499811 Scisco
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You are of course assuming that there is a functioning government that could run an election!

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 19:28 | 1499848 malikai
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Double Checkmate.

Meanwhile, the whitehouse is rickrolling. No joke.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 20:36 | 1500016 -Michelle-
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Wed, 07/27/2011 - 19:29 | 1499849 Weisbrot
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nationalize the fed and erase the debt



Wed, 07/27/2011 - 21:41 | 1500125 CompassionateFascist
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IQs must be dropping suddenly at ZH....Repubs acting like cockroaches poured out of bottle. Crybaby's plan won't even be supported by TPs, it's such a transparent surrender. Zero wants the whole debt limit increase now and, since all but the TPs are invested in the Ponzi, that's what he will get via House alliance of RINOs + Dems. The kicker is, at the rate the Govt is bleeding red ink, $2.whatever trillion won't get him thru 2012 election. This is going to blow sky high...about this time next year. I can wait....

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 22:46 | 1500194 trav7777
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91B is fucking NOTHING.

We are running north of $2T PER YEAR

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 18:42 | 1499723 slaughterer
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Boner plan = no plan.   FUCK BONER WITH A BONER UP THE A$$
Wed, 07/27/2011 - 19:24 | 1499837 gall batter
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No plan is still a plan.  it's called no plan.  

Thu, 07/28/2011 - 06:26 | 1500540 Papasmurf
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That's been the plan for years.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 21:25 | 1500097 MarkD
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Come on....... Boners plan is gonna cut $22b from a $1.7t deficit next year. Wow, that's some serious cuts. We will have to live within our means for at least 5 fuckin days next year. How will we survive?

This is such a joke. Can't get over how stupid Americans are.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 22:06 | 1500144 dwdollar
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Why are people junking you?

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 22:47 | 1500196 Spastica Rex
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Partisan tantrums.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 19:32 | 1499868 slaughterer
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Sorry, but this Boehner plan is doing absolutely nothing for ES or PM futures right now.

-200 on Dow tomorrow.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 19:40 | 1499883 caerus
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Wed, 07/27/2011 - 22:25 | 1500165 Sam Clemons
Sam Clemons's picture  my charts show there may be some more weakness in the short term before a politically induced bounce (2 or 3 days max) and then hell should really break loose.

Thu, 07/28/2011 - 00:53 | 1500356 caerus
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imho forget causality...this shit has been brewing for a while...i see support at ES 1280, 1260 to be conservative...then you'll get your typical fib bounce...

Thu, 07/28/2011 - 01:07 | 1500374 caerus
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fuck the whiskey mind says we got a massive head shoulders / trip top that began in january...sell this shit..sell it hard..then take  a vacation

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 20:03 | 1499949 cara leaf
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When you print counterfeit money to pay debts, you are already in default.


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 20:27 | 1499996 Founders Keeper
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Oh, the insidious advantages of fiat currency.


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 22:30 | 1500176 Sam Clemons
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Haha, awesome.  Yes, for some reason people don't understand that if you aren't paying back debt in full (which you aren't if the units are worth less), then you are undergoing a camouflaged default. 

Unfortunately, camouflaged default benefits the already rich and punishes the poor.  Official default punishes the already rich.

Thu, 07/28/2011 - 00:01 | 1500309 DrunkHarryReid
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You are dumb. A public service message from your friends at The Onion (and DrunkHarryReid).

Thu, 07/28/2011 - 00:01 | 1500310 DrunkHarryReid
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You are dumb. A public service message from your friends at The Onion (and DrunkHarryReid).

Thu, 07/28/2011 - 00:05 | 1500311 DrunkHarryReid
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Drunk Double Post <hiccup>

Thu, 07/28/2011 - 01:27 | 1500384 jwäges
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Take a look at Boehners version, in particular pg 35, starting with section 401. It is nearly identical in language to the Senate version. This Joint Select Comitee, is not constrained soely to deficit reduction, is appointed not elected, can originate legislation, suspends all congressional and senate rules regarding its legislation, can over ride vetos by itsself. Appointment for three comitee members is made by the House and Senate majority and minority leaders for a grand total of 12 members. These appointments are for the life of the comitee, or their tenure, and vacancies are filed within 14 days. In summation this is the motivation for this manufactured crisis, passage of this legislation. It matters not which version is ultimately made into law, as this section is nearly identical in both versions. Welcome to fascism.


Go to page 35 for the part on the Super Congress. God help us if this is enacted.

Sincerely, Joe Wäges

Thu, 07/28/2011 - 02:34 | 1500430 Sp00ky
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As you state the powers of this so-called Joint Select Committee, it cannot pass the Constitutional test.  It requires a Constitutional amendment, and you know what that requires.  Meaning, ain't gonna happen.  Someone(s) on the Hill has been smoking too much of their own smoke.

Thu, 07/28/2011 - 03:55 | 1500477 whiskeyjim
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I disagree with Durden and you. There was never going to be any grand plan. There never will be any grand plan. The reason is simple. Obama and the Dems do not believe we have a debt problem; you can only negotiate with people who are sane.

The only course left is to do this thing in small chunks, with the debt ceiling gun to everyone's head.

Boehner's largest mistake was to ever try to do something large. He fucked up. He thought the other side was rational. He needs to bring on one discussion after another. It will take 10 years anyway. TURN THE GOVERNMENT INTO A FULL TIME DEREGULATOR. Give them no time to dream up more shit to control.

NO ONE is going to shut down the government because the cuts are too small. No one.


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 18:14 | 1499606 buzzsaw99
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The Guyliner has spoken.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 18:14 | 1499607 doomandbloom
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veto, bitchez

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 18:14 | 1499608 No Bid
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Considering what's going on, Google Trends is pretty hilarious right now.  Real Housewives of Beverly Hills is in the top ten.

Commence crash.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 18:30 | 1499678 Vic Vinegar
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Contrasting Google Trends with what's written on this site each day is always amusing.

People care about Carlos Beltran and Kyle Orton, not Boehner and Barack.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 18:50 | 1499751 Shameful
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Never have the masses been concerned about the real goings on of the world and things that heavily impact their lives.  So while they could spend hours going over "boring" things, or they look up little facts and videos they can talk to their peers about.  In my personal life I tend to avoid the finance topic because people have no idea what is happening, even "educated" people who studied economics.  So I come off as either a "nerd" or "boring" because I know so much about he financial structure.  Stupidity and ignorance is reveled in.  We are living in a culture that glories banality and mediocrity, makes for a very easy for people to be fooled.

If anyone doubts this, randomly bring up something simple like fractional reserve banking or asking what another person things about QE and see the response you get.  Might as well be speaking a foreign language to them.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 19:16 | 1499810 Hulk
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Wed, 07/27/2011 - 19:17 | 1499819 cossack55
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It is a foreign language. Greek, I think.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 19:22 | 1499832 Backspin
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Yep, that's exactly my experience also.  I have a friend who can talk for hours about sports, but bring up something about the banking industry or the bond market or the national debt and he's ready to go chat with someone else, and he's a financial advisor - that's what he does for a living.  And he's in debt.  And that's just one example, but I won't ramble on.  It's refreshing to come here and find people who understand that we're on the edge of a cliff, and heading toward the edge, and that our politicians, in nearly everything they do, are stepping on the gas pedal.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 20:22 | 1499983 V in PA
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Yes!. I love the people of ZH. Even the haters. Been reading for over two years now. Just join 3 weeks ago. Reading the comments and articles has been the best intellectual exercise of my life. Most of the sheeple I encounter are so vapid and boring I feel we are doomed. This is one, of the few, rays of hope left for world.


God Bless the Internet

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 20:51 | 1500035 Nikao7
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That's pretty much my story as well.  I'm a simpleton but an informed simpleton. 

Plato summed it up nicely........

"Those who are able to see beyond the shadows and the lies of their culture - will never be understood, let alone believed, by the masses." - Plato

Mentally speaking most of us around here are island dwellers amongst the masses.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 23:00 | 1500218 Backspin
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In Plato's cave allegory, I think they ended up killing the guy who saw the daylight and understood.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 22:51 | 1500201 UGrev
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sit in a walmart parkcing lot one day. It will give you an idea of who will be rushing your property and how to deal with them ;)

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