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Boehner Retorts To Obama, Presents Republican Position On Jobs Plan

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Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:12 | 1673871 voshnishki
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Sell out.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:16 | 1673889 Clueless Economist
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For once, an adult talking sense...get GOVT out of the F&&king way!

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:20 | 1673907 SuperRay
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you have an accurately named handle.  You think this moron is going to do anything helpful or useful?  He's as clueless as you are..

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:23 | 1673927 Melin
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meanie...

but you're spot on re: Boehner.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:47 | 1674044 whstlblwr
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Get government out of way in financial market too? Problem here not taking cheats to jail. What about danger of Federal Researve monetary policy Boehner? Look today they coordinate save for Europe bank and look what it's doing to dollar and price of gas and food.

Get to work Zero Hedge readers. I'm on facebook and twitter showing this to friends. It's clear as day. Look at price today of gas. It spikes the minute of intervention. You can show them. It's not some slow long process of inflation, it happens in second. The second the Federal Reserve prints money for Europe banks.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:52 | 1674059 Spaceman Spiff
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I really wish we could say Boehner was the adult in the room.   He had his shot at it, but he has absolutely sucked in getting meaningful cuts during the budget and debt debates.  I know Republicans only have one branch of government to bargain with and the cutting the budget stance is politically unpopular, but hell, someone has to take a stance sometime.   

 

With that being said, he is still better than Pelosi.   What an f'd up country.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:58 | 1674077 whstlblwr
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Quit whining and do something.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 14:03 | 1674095 Fukushima Sam
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It is unfortunate that there is no mention of cutting the costs of wars and other foreign entanglements.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 14:20 | 1674116 Dr. Richard Head
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That is because the likes of Limbaugh and O'Reilly program their viewers to only look at "on-budget" costs and therefore see Social Security/Medicare as the biggest threat to our country's finances.  "Off-budget" items don't seem to exist in their reality, so no need to mention them or address them.  Class warfare is easier to misdirect the people (I often fall prey to it with the seniors).

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 14:41 | 1674204 topcallingtroll
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That is understandable.

Seniors would vote for stalin and hitler as long as they promised to burden their grandchildren with debt so they can have their new electric scooter and visiting nurse and physical therapy for that back ache.

Ooh yeah. Just a little bit lower..right there...aahh.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 18:29 | 1675181 bid the soldier...
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I don't have grandchildren. Can I burden yours?

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 14:16 | 1674130 wisefool
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And dont mention the Republican Norquist pledge of "no net tax increases." which means the tax code can never get fixed. The democratic two party quantum entangled particle to Norquist is the populism of elizabeth warren. "You should not have to pay more than $5 to use an ATM, which gives you the ability to withdraw cash, against your bank acount, anywhere in the USA and likely the world.  But if you spend 40+ man hours a year doing your taxes that is a-okay."

  • Ron Paul
  • Herman Cain
  • Huntsman
  • if we cant get one of these, lets go "Full Keynes" and change the constitution so
  • G-Pap from Greece can be our leader.
Thu, 09/15/2011 - 14:45 | 1674212 topcallingtroll
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The tax code can be fixed without any net increases.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 15:05 | 1674256 wisefool
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Not when the rushbo/hannity/boehner crowd thinks that business is done on the golf course, so golf trips are 100% deductable.

the left is just as bad. Notice all the back to school "sales tax holidays" so that if you buy your kids an I-pad for school, we can reduce the burden on over worked 3rd grade math teachers.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 17:32 | 1674906 RockyRacoon
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Eliminate the "seminars" and "professional lectures" at ski resorts and golf meccas and you'll see some crashed economies at Vale and other posh locations -- doctors, lawyers, and financiers would have to find another way to write off their deductible vacations.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 15:08 | 1674263 Vagabond
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Don't we have to restructure our currency before any meaningful change takes place anyhow?  How can there be such thing as equilibrium in a debt based currency.  We need increasing amounts of debt in order to sustain the ponzi.  How can we fix this system without fundamental change?

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 16:36 | 1674615 baby_BLYTHE
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not much needs to be legislated either. Simply following the Constitution recognizing only gold and silver as legal tender as intended by the founding fathers as well as enforcing the Coinage Act of 1792- which would see the likes of Volker, Greenspan, Bernanke, Paulson and Geithner executed for crimes of intentional debasement of the dollar- would go a long way to restructing our currency and economy.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 14:11 | 1674120 Spaceman Spiff
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I do plenty.  

 

If only people could vote for their party's leadership in Congress directly.  

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 14:01 | 1674089 DirtMerchant
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its all bullshit, if Boehner or any of the other shills on the hill had any interest in fixing any of this they would be getting behind Ron & Rand Paul and backing them for permanent fixes for this horseshit. Boehner is part of the problem, not the solution.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 15:23 | 1674316 disabledvet
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We're printing money for European banks? COOL!

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:39 | 1674006 A.W.E.S.O.M.-O 4000
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I think a major component of the Jobs Plan involves selling fake tan spray to Boehner

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 14:07 | 1674108 Fukushima Sam
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No, all these "gentlemen" do most of the time is play golf, so they don't need the spray. 

Here Boehner fills in his friend Biden on his golf game:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20104063-503544.html

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:27 | 1673948 Shocker
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I love talk and no action.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 15:25 | 1674328 disabledvet
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As do i! As do i!

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 21:23 | 1675790 NumNutt
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Hmmm...interresting, anyone catch his comment at about 46:46 when he said "Life is like a poker game. You have to play the hand that you are delt. It would be great to be delt 5 aces every time but that doesn't always happen." HUH!!! What!?!?! 5 aces? The poker games I attend, you lay down 5 aces you better be ready to be dragged out into the alley out behind of the building and get your ass kicked. What kind of card decks is he using that has 5 aces? Let me think Spades, Clubs, Hearts, Diamonds, am I missing something. I guess that is why I am just a dumb fucking tax payer, I was always playing the game with decks that only had 4 aces! See damn politicians, can't play fair at any game...

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 02:09 | 1676257 StychoKiller
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So, your deck doesn't have the Ace of Printers?

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:31 | 1673963 SheepDog-One
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Get bankers out of the way. None of them are saying that, so theyre all just spewing BS.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 15:27 | 1674336 disabledvet
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You strike me as someone who wants them in the way... so you can run them over. Correct me if i'm correct.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:48 | 1674049 XRAYD
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Everyone knows there are THREE kinds of economists - there are those who know how to count, and there are those who don't.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 14:01 | 1674090 tekhneek
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I've got three words for you: not good at math.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 14:23 | 1674134 The Deleuzian
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I've never before 'replied' to you tekhneek but you are one of the posters that has been 'greyed' for some time!

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 14:32 | 1674182 tekhneek
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"greyed'?

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 15:29 | 1674342 disabledvet
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Yeah...what the hell does that mean?

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 16:07 | 1674519 Jason_1sandal
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Greyed: I believe it means that all your posts are marked for reading....

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 16:38 | 1674636 tekhneek
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Ah... well in that case, I'm truly sorry.

Haha.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 14:33 | 1674178 Dr. Acula
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A lot of pseudoeconomists are great at mathematics.

The problem is that there is no means to quantify, compare, or add  the subjective valuations of different individuals. To understand economics, one must understand praxeology. 

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 15:35 | 1674359 Cliff Claven Cheers
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I'm not sure what that means Dr. but it sure sounds good.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 16:32 | 1674612 Variance Doc
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Yes there is.  It's called subjective probability (e.g. Bayesian probability) and utility.  STFU about things you don't understand.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 17:03 | 1674731 Cliff Claven Cheers
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That sounds really good Doc, not sure what it means though. 

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 17:35 | 1674924 RockyRacoon
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Aha!  An imposter.  I thought so.   The REAL Cliff Claven would never have admitted that.   A little known fact.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:49 | 1674052 Hot Apple Pie
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Absolutely! The sooner we lift eliminate any and all restrictions on Wall Street, the sooner they can create more jobs and save us all! The invisible hand of the market will ensure that we are all provided lube as we're fucked in every orifice.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 14:57 | 1674238 monkeyshine
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I will take one or the other but not this fake hybrid BS. Don't tell me we have "regulated markets" with an SEC and congress and NASD (which doesn't have our interest at heart) asleep at the wheel, HF computers allowed to trade in ways that would be illegal for 1 or 2 humans to collude in, suspiciously collusive practice by Fund managers, market makers exploiting loopholes for specific advantage, securitization of MBS, selling CDOs to unrelated parties, and so many other countless ailments in the markets. If we want regulated markets, let the civil system reign, let all data flow in real time to all participants, force reporting of all hedge funds in real time, force short and long disclosures in excess of 1%, SEC should encourage civil suits and profit share in settlements and wins in court.

Or

Give us complete laisser faire, and everyone will know that stepping into the vipers nest is going to be poisonous.

I don't want to pretend the markets are fair and safe when they aren't. There are many ways to reform and improve the markets through honest regulations but we won't get that until there is a firewall between the SEC and the markets, make them adversarial, give SEC profit sharing on fines, and forbid SEC employees from ever working on or for WS.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 15:36 | 1674364 disabledvet
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Does that include former Chairmen of the SEC? And are you including media appearances in which these same former Chairmen announce who they work for and follow that up with "damn Skippy!" i mean REAALLLY! On THAT paycheck?

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:58 | 1674079 55 men
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Peter Schiff knocks it out of the park in front of the Congressional Job Committee yesterday! You have to watch this!

http://www.dailypaul.com/178607/schiff-knocks-it-outta-the-park-must-see-video

 

Here is somebody who speaks some truth!

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:13 | 1673872 GFKjunior
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All talk no action

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:14 | 1673879 HelluvaEngineer
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Boner = Limp

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:29 | 1673955 Dr. Richard Head
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Come on already.  Aren't you so happy about the Republicans winning Weiner's seat?  Almost 100 years with a democrat sitting there and now we have the republicans in there.  They certainly now unerstand the folleys of their past ways.  /sarc

Left, right, left, right, left, right - It doesn't matter as the march is the same......off the end of the cliff......WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:31 | 1673968 SheepDog-One
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2 wings of the same american bird symbol. 

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 13:40 | 1674013 Dr. Richard Head
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damn straight.  oh well.  I had fun when i lived in my ignorant dream world of Fox news and voting straight R.  The good thing about being in a dream state is that the pain is not obvious thus it can be ignored.  Being awake sucks at times.  The inflationary depression/currency crisis should be fun, so at least we have that going for us.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 15:19 | 1674300 Clark Bent
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Pffffft! Look, there is a huge difference between Republican and Democrat. The Democrats today are not looking out for the little guy, they outright Soros controlled marxist automatons. The ones that don't recognize that are pathetically stupid. Your comment is better aimed at acknowledging that while the republicans run on platforms that promise they will fix things, and institute practices that actually will work, and then, unlike Bush, represent the citizens of the country, they consistently fail to hold up their end. But, through steady pressure they are improving. Third party alternatives are unappealing for many reasons, so we need to move forward where we may. First halt the damned totalitarians and try to deter the rest of the world from attacking the weakened behemoth. The attitude of surrender we can do nothing will net exactly that result. We need to get our asses in gear and make this happen, this is not an unpopular movement. 

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