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Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:03 | 1487476 Eireann go Brach
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Beavis, Butthead and Boehner, a new cartoon coming from Washington! hehhehhehe Boner, do you go tanning every morning before you go on TV you asshole?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:29 | 1487523 TruthInSunshine
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Query:    

 

What happens when a significant and hard crash is needed in order to obtain as much public support as possible for instituting dramatic policy/legislative changes (that further subsidize the financial-military-industrial complex at the expense of individual American taxpayers, American small businesses, and even mid-sized American businesses with little or no international operations), yet the crash doesn't take place?

 

My Response:

The question has an idiotic premise as it presupposes that elected representatives, whose sole constituency is the financial-military-industrial complex, pay attention to 'public support,' as the media is so corrupted, barely a decimal point's worth of the voters in their districts understand the hows & whys of what's being done at the legislative level, but rather cling to taglines tossed out the punditry that fronts for the false left-right paradigm that "freedom loving Americans" cling to.

If that was tl;dr - Elected Representatives no longer have to worry about public opinion of the voters back home because there's no viable alternative to the criminals in CONgress.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 15:49 | 1488098 darkstar7646
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There's another reason it doesn't work -- so many of the people in most parts of the country are reliant on the government that if you do have that "hard crash" event, you would have default WHILE you also have Civil War II.

It would literally be the end of the Republic. I don't even think there's enough money to support both debt service and the military complex -- I believe, if my math's right, you can't service the debt and keep the military going.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:16 | 1487534 trav7777
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All as predicted:  remember this.  The zillions to bail out the banks, now it's austerity for everyone else.  The war won't be cut, the monies to the banks will not be clawed back.  They levered the shit out of the gov't to bail THEM out and now they will slice everything else.

Will we pull out of the $1T/year wars?  Nope.  No plan for that.  It's cut everything else.  Cut SS spending to pay for wars that none of us actually want.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:22 | 1487559 Flakmeister
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Quelle suprise....

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:37 | 1487628 Pimp Juice
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Quelle Boner...........

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:56 | 1487704 Caviar Emptor
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Yup it's "Granny, can you spare a dime?"

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 14:30 | 1487823 A Lunatic
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Yes, about that war. Why don't we adopt a legitimate defense budget as defined within the framework of the Constitution, as crazy as it sounds. God knows we don't defend our borders, so why is all of this "defense" money being wasted in foreign lands?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 15:04 | 1487928 ConfederateH
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Budgets and spending are the responsibility of the house, but foreign policy falls on he shoulders of the Democratically controlled senate and executive.   So not only are the Democrats obstructing any spending cuts, they are also the true war mongers here.  When are the closet Democrats here at ZH going to stop diverting attention away from Obama's destructive plans for America and the progressives that are supporting it?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 15:05 | 1487931 minosgal
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When I listen to this too-orange Oompa Lumpa, my brain swells as big as Veruca Salt.

OMG. My parents are aged 89 and 90 -- children of the Depression and the (self-named?) Greatest Generation. I was raised to believe.

Now all I want to do is opt out.

Inanity, thy name is Boehner.

 

 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 15:49 | 1488100 darkstar7646
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Civil War. NWO-level population reset to follow?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:23 | 1487566 MiguelitoRaton
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It would be helpful if the Senate and President could put forth their plans instead of simply shitting on the Congressional plan.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 14:16 | 1487781 RockyRacoon
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Plan?   For what?   The debt ceiling is a separate item on all agendas.   It has been made a focus of the Republicans to bring attention to the debt/deficit problems.   That in itself is a good thing, but the ceiling is another animal altogether.   Just because you come into my front yard with a frisbee doesn't mean that I have to drop what I'm doing and play.   It's just possible that the Republicans may have picked on too large a foe to win the fight.   I applaud their efforts, don't mistake that.   It should be a big battle, but not at the expense of the ceiling.  

Now, for my own personal view:   Default is not a big thing to my thinking.   Gonna happen sooner or later.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 14:26 | 1487814 chet
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The President has been working with Boehner on various plans for weeks.   What he really wants is one that cuts spending by up to $4 trillion, about double what the GOP seems to be shooting for.  That's right, that damn "socialist" Obama wants a deal with twice the spending cuts that the GOP wants.  He'd also like to close some bullshit tax loopholes, that you and I and everyone else know are bullshit.  But that is simply unacceptable to all who teabag and therefore "can't pass the house."

I agree that the Dem senate hasn't done much.  Frankly teh President should have walked away along time ago and left it to Boehner and Reid to hammer out.  We're talking about legislation, from the Legislative Branch, to pay for the spending they've authorized, for the programs they created.  It's been unclear to me why the Prez has put himself in the middle of it in the first place.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 14:41 | 1487855 skipjack
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So, chet-sky, have you seen the President's plan ?  What exactly is it he's proposing to cut ?  How much and out of what programs ?  Point us all to a reference where he lays his cards on the table for all to see.

 

Uhh, that's right, you can't, because Obozo hasn't specified what he wants to do.  He's tossed a number out there, but there is nothing specific to back up that number he says he's willing to do.  He's a lying cocksucking tool, playing you and everyone like you for fools.

 

How do you know a politician is lying ?  Either his lips are moving or it comes in the form of a vague statement by sycophantts.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 15:05 | 1487932 chet
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1) He's negotiating.  You meet, you work through ideas, you try to get to what will work before you put it on paper. The parameters of Obama's plan have leaked over the past few weeks.  They include larger cuts than the GOP is working for, including entitlement reform, which is hardly a small offer.

2)  When dealing with the Dems, the GOP always operates on bad faith.  Always.  So if the President puts anything in writing it won't be used by the GOP to work out a deal, it will be used by the GOP to attack him and score political points.  (The Dems are guilty of this too, but not to the absolutely-without-fail-every-time extent that the GOP does it.)

The GOP wants to destory the president, and right now they're finding out just how far they'll go to do it.  I don't think that even they know for sure.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 16:14 | 1488217 r101958
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Riiiiiiiight.....what a crock!

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 02:09 | 1489859 FlyPaper
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Total bull, Chet-ster.  Have you read the GOP legislation passed last week?  You ought to.  Can you read Obama's legislation?  No - nothing on paper.  Using "negotiating" as a cover for the "let's talk and then say what you said isn't what you meant.

I'll be much more interested when Obama puts it on paper.  Until then, we don't have anything to go by.

 

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 00:49 | 1489777 trav7777
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$4T over what, 10 years?  That wouldn't close 1/4 of the real deficit

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 15:17 | 1487851 Sudden Debt
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AND HOW MUCH "EFFORT" CAN YOU PUT INTO A NEGOTIATION WHEN YOU STILL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO APEAR ON TELEVION DOING INTERVIEWS?!!

And nobody ever mentions that Republicans created this mess starting under Reagan !

Even back then, the US BORROWED 100 MILLION DOLLARS A WEEK from China!

 

 

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 02:15 | 1489867 FlyPaper
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How bout we ratchet back to Vietnam, Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon: they paid for Vietnam by going off the gold standard; then they raided social security funds (Johnson) to pay for that and the new deal.  So IMO it goes back much further than Reagan.  Nixon was a clueless idiot on economic issues.

Have been puzzled by why we look at the President re: debt, when its Congress who creates and signs the spending.  So under Reagan we had "D" in the House and Senate for 6 years - last 2 Senate went R?  And under Clinton, we had Congress under 'R' control when the "supposed" budget surplus appeared (no surplus if you don't swipe the SS funds).

R's f-d up under Bush.  No question.  Bush = bad fiscal juju.  Obama = worse fiscal juju.  

 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:03 | 1487477 Conrad Murray
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Full faith and credit! Confidence! Bipartisan nutsuckers! Confidence! Markets! CONfidence. Fuck you Boner. And FUCK YOU WASHINGTON!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/matt-taibbi-the-crying-shame-o...

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:47 | 1487669 foxmuldar
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You forgot Fuck you Obama and your socialist party.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:04 | 1487478 williambanzai7
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MASTER HU FLUNG DUNG

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:06 | 1487487 cossack55
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I just GOT to find his barber.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:10 | 1487506 snowball777
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Epic 1337 awesomesauce, Banzai. Priceless.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:28 | 1487589 jomama
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win.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 15:20 | 1487988 RacerX
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BANZAI!!

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 01:45 | 1489836 nobita
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You rock Banzai!

On another note, the swedish media barely reports at all about our incomprehensible involvment in Libya. Gutless bastards spending all day klickwhoring posting celebrity nipslip pics.

This is supposedly the freest press in the whole world. The most disturbing thing to me is that to get the truth nowadays one would be best served to go to www.RT.com. That's right it is now better to get your news from the fucking Kremlin than what was once the freest and greatest press in the world. Nice.

End rant.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:04 | 1487479 cossack55
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What a sad joke. Luckily I'm a dystopian. 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:04 | 1487480 rajat_bhatia
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Here i'm again fellas, my gold shorts are gonna pay me big time tomorrow, when the market opens

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:11 | 1487509 BlackSea
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Look, if you got nothing interesting to say, STFU!

Do you really think anyone gives a flying f..k about your trading position?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 14:01 | 1487711 Captain Planet
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BlackSea, relax, rajat is just another Hamy Wagner, a joke on all the moronic trolls out there. 

don't look too deep into his words, they are just well crafted sarcasm, so in turn, with that understanding, look very deeply into the words

edit: but to be honest, and someone has already said this, rajat is boring as hell. 

Wheres Hamy? Guess he bolted once people outed him. 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 14:45 | 1487875 rajat_bhatia
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Thank you Sir, for your understanding, I'm indeed boring as hell. I know that. But what does that say about the merry people who reply to my posts?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:11 | 1487513 snowball777
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You transmuted your copper shorts into gold overnight, dingleberry?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:36 | 1487624 Transitory Disi...
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Transitory Transmutation

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 15:21 | 1487992 RacerX
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btw your avatar really freaks me out

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:16 | 1487535 Doyle Hargraves
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Long Ruger, ammo, and gold, short morons like you!

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:23 | 1487569 Flakmeister
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umm... didn't you mean "shot morons like you"?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:49 | 1487680 Doyle Hargraves
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Thanks for the correction, it is still early here...

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:16 | 1487537 kito
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youre gonna be taking a crap in your gold shorts shortly

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 14:24 | 1487561 Doyle Hargraves
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Edit:

If it gets too bad for the rat I will trade him his crappy gold shorts for some of my patented cement shoes!

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:18 | 1487540 knukles
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The gold market will be open today.  You don't have to wait for tomorrow if you're here, now.
Gold will not do badly, old boy.
Uncertainty and fiscal irresponsibility breed contempt... for fiat.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:21 | 1487555 HungrySeagull
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Quiet you. Take a dip into the Ganges.

There is a LITTLE bit of talk in GENERAL here and there about topics of different kinds. Until you learn to stop hyping your own trades, no one is going to pay attention.

Contribute something else beside the damn Gold and Silver blah blah.. we know that already.

 

Once in a while someone says something that is quite useful. But mouth shut, ears open.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:22 | 1487562 traderjoe
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You said you covered on the India markets. Give this guy a -1 so he disappears.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:22 | 1487563 Manzilla
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I highly doubt you know one thing about trading. Move on sir.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:25 | 1487581 slow_roast
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FAIL!

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 14:13 | 1487767 Use of Weapons
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Robotraders' job got outsourced?

 

Times are tough in this economic climate.

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/ixuld/iama_business_owner_with_15_... [Spoiler: guy is 28, runs a trading house, and is currently sleeping on the office floor due to lack of revenue]

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 14:51 | 1487889 equity_momo
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Dude , you're trapped in a 2008 timewarp if you think the dollar is going to outperform Gold in a risk-off scenario.   When was the last time a defaulting Nations currency rallied? When was the last time raising the debt ceiling hurt gold? Gold is win/win.  Youre entering the twilight zone so buckle up.  

For the paper schmucks out there , Mr Fat Fingers has been doing his exercises and is ready to have a fit all over his keyboard.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 18:39 | 1488859 Manzilla
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How's that gold short doing? By the way, the market opens today for the metal. Not tomorrow.

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