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"Austrian finance minister says worried about larger EU countries needing aid"
Hurry up and go down, already, I want to buy a vacation home out there later to take advantage of the fire sale on Greek assets (especially the exotic Greek chicks.)
You will be utterly disappointed when you see Greek chicks. Some of them even have moustaches.
Yep and very hairy armpits
cant be worse than the local walmart crowd
Please stop talking about hairy Greek women, you are getting Zorba very excited.
Greece already defaulted.
They only need time to make the announcement.
They need the time to print&distribute their own drachmas.
When the announcement is made, all the TBTF will have covered their loses. It's the sheeple who will bear the shock.
Not true at all. Greek women are some of the most beautiful in the world. And their moustaches don't come in until they turn 50 or so.
Agreed. But I don't think Greece will default this week.
Never will 'til it does I suppose.
Normalcy bias anyone?
everyone bailing each other out all the time means that all fail together. therefore, you must get "outside of the equation" to get profits rolling again. opt out of the sucker game.
So it's better to keep showeling more into the black hole, preferrably on leveraged basis, to avoid pain now and get massively more pain in the future. As long as it's not happening on my watch i don't care coz by that time i'll be enjoying tax payer funded fat pension in Bahamas.
But most people do not know this and are expecting the Halloween Rally followed by the Thanksgiving Rally and finally the Christmas Rally...
Each time the markets are at the abyss, a giant rally ensues... until it doesn't. BTFD will eventually turn into WTF???
Pass the crack!! EUR/USD heading straight to 1.40. Free money time tapping out foolishly pessimistic stops.
It could play into Goldman's hand again: they don't trade ranges, they pump it up with all of the suckers and sell into the rally, when it finally unexpectedly breaks down.
All of the other peasant blogs and sites like marketwatch have been omitting all of the worsening economic data; breaking news is when Dow is up 200 pts.
and don't forget they have the secret (hft) sauce to push it where ever they want.
Until enough momo idiots get burnt the rumors will fly.
I think Brasil so much wants to be in the first tier of world leaders....they want to be the first choice for the podium TV shots....the big speeches...they have teleprompter envy
Greece bondholders about to get a haircut? or full brazilian?
The reason that Brazil's opinion matters is that Brazil probably has the best set of economic minds in the world based on real experience in handling both inflation and deflation, boom and bust, over many decades. Brazilian economists live in the real world, unlike most of their brethern elsewhere, and when they speak anyone who also lives in the real world - eg has money or assets at risk - better damn well listen. The Swiss may have the rep, but Brazil has the creds.
huh? Brazil is on its 3rd currency in 20 years
I wouldn't be so sure. In Brazil they say so many of Brazil's economists got their PhDs at Vanderbilt U. that not only they failed to learn proper economics, but also passed the chance to learn proper English.
By the way, if by "best minds" you mean people like Persio Arida, Gustavo Franco, Arminio Fraga, Pedro Malan etc., you definitely have to check your criteria for geniality. These are first-hand profiteurs of Central Bank-created volatility, credit orgies, debasement of the currency, privatization, regulatory and supervision failures. Rephrase it to "best criminal minds" and I agree with you.
Don't forget the country was run by an marxist alcoholic up until a few months ago. And a marxist (from a high caste in Brazil) is still in power now. Brazilians are being setup for a major economic catastrophe.
"The daughter of a Bulgarian immigrant father, Rousseff was raised in an upper middle class household in Belo Horizonte. She became a socialist during her youth, and following the 1964 coup d'état joined various left-wing and Marxist urban guerrilla groups that fought against the military dictatorship. Rousseff was captured and jailed between 1970 and 1972 and reportedly tortured."
Maybe this run up in the market is actually good news. Market crashes never come when expected right?
It only matters what the Germans do...period
It must be fantastic to have a top economic post in any country at the moment. The market is moved by headlines only, so you put positions on in your personal account, and then send out a statement to put them immediately in the money.
DAX up 4.5%. Ze Germans obviously do not believe in zer own finance minister.
Called it yesterday, cannot find the link. I'd asked about Brazil via santander via spain as being THE Eurobomb waiting to go off. That will rock a whole house, forget just the BRICS.
Weird World, What do You believe?
that was the title of my university thesis
they outsourced the printing of the New drachma, will take a few days for the Chinese to deliver.
this rally lets the insiders sell financials before the storm
If that were true, the counter feat is staggering.
Wouldn't be worth the hassle ORI.
High quality chinese fake drachma banknotes would probably cost more to manufacture than the value of the real ones.
Hah, probably Ahmee.
All this shit is like someone poking a dead animal with a stick to make sure it's dead.
Note to world.. "Yes, it's dead"..
Words. Got to get them right. Leisman got them right yesterday, and look at the results. And if a total tool like him gets the words right, what does that say about those Europeans:)
One more thing. "Messaging" is the word. Loose lips sink ships, and virtual currencies:)
Alfred E. Neuman reports on the Greek debacle as follows: "What, me worry?"
My take is Greece is done like dinner. The Germans are just making noise and pretending like they somewhat care. They are going to let Greece go. They have stepped back and are ready to start catching the fall out.
Well i am glad he cleared that up [IMG]Rollereyes[/IMG]
it is hard to accept that the ECB et al are so incapable of action
possibly they are trying to buy time while they make preparations for some kind of framework for "orderly" default of greece (and possibly others in the future). given enough time there is no limit to how they can rig the system.
so likely greece will leave the euro? is already priced in?
there will be casualties - purely business as usual
I remember the days when Ireland was the 'huge deal' everything hinged upon what was happening hour to hour...turns out not so much and its swept right under the rug just like Greece will be.
Exactly, this will end when they are ready for it to end. Many here have an incorrect view of how controlled this all is and pin their hopes on a reset caused by market forces only there is no market.
more like a festering boil thats going to spew
they can test thier default management on greece then maybe ireland will be next
they will only fail if they get caught - with thier pants down
it is the new system of bubble economics
Quiet day as the equities markets recover lost ground. Seems the only certainty is volatility. Still say this plan for Europe is hogwash and a head fake, but who knows? Timmah and the gang are ready to print.
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