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Brent At $126 As Israel Security Cabinet Votes 8 To 6 To Attack Iran
Looking at the tranquil sea that is the S&P one may be forgiven to ignore the rapid intraday surge in Brent which was up over $3 in a few hours, approaching $126 once again. But why? After all the FOMC minutes were oh so very slightly hawkish, and not to mention that the Fed's scribe Hilsenrath told everyone at best the Fed would proceed with sterilized QE which would leave risk prices untouched. Maybe it has something to do with this. According to Israel's NRG, in a just completed cabinet vote, for the first time Netanyahu has gotten a majority (8 over 6) supporting an Iran attack. NRG also notes that at this point Israel has decided to not wait until the US elections in November before proceeding with sending crude to the stratosphere. From NRG (google translated): "Israeli political sources believe that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a majority Cabinet support Israeli military action against Iran without American approval....He announced that he would not hesitate to perform the operation without the approval of President Obama mentioned the precedent of the decision to attack the Iraqi reactor, Prime Minister Menachem Begin, and with the comments heard yesterday some cabinet ministers say privately that "It sounds like a speech preparation for attack." Political - Security Cabinet 14 ministers. According to estimates, at this stage tend to support Netanyahu and
Barak's approach eight ministers, and six against it (including the traditional opponents octet: Moshe Ya'alon, Dan Meridor, Benny Begin and Eli Yishai)." So... $4.00 gas is just around the corner. As is, probably, $5.00 gas. And $6.00 gas.
And from Richard Silverstein's blog:
Just when you thought it was safe to come out from your air raid shelter after Bibi returned from his U.S. foray to stoke up war fever, Maariv raises the temperature to a boiling point. Ben Caspit reports (Hebrew) that the cabinet now has, for the first time, a majority (eight votes for, six votes against) favoring the measure. This means that theoretically Bibi can begin an attack at any time. Of course, it could mean something different: it could mean the cabinet has approved a strike at any point in future with Bibi determining the timing. So it doesn’t necessarily mean the F-16s will fly tonight or tomorrow. But it could:
Cabinet Majority Supports Iran Attack
The prime minister yesterday delivered one of the most combative and explicit speeches in the history of the Iran affair. Several cabinet ministers said in private conversations that it sounded like a “speech preparing for war.”
Political sources judge that the prime minister has a majority in the cabinet which favors a military strike against Iran, even without American approval. Yesterday, Netanyahu said he wouldn’t hesitate to attack Iran even without the approval of Pres. Obama…A senior official said Bibi believed it would be best not to wait for the November presidential elections because he didn’t trust the president to deal with the problem after the election.
So it appears that the dies is cast. Our ETA for the earliest possible offensive? Not before CVN-65 Enterprise reaches CVN 70 and CVN 74, sometime over the next 3-5 days. Of course, this is not a prediction of war. Just a logistical notice.
h/t Gregor Peter
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My horse runs just fucking fine on MW(midwestern) hay, thank you.
;P
Between the Mideast conflict and the California Air Pollution Control Board, Californian drivers are between a rock and a hard place.
We will know California drivers are suffering from higher gas prices when they are no longer spending $30 to +$200 on car washing, waxing, and wheel polishing.
http://www.victorandjonathansmobilecarwash.com/Big_Rigs_Car_Wash_Wax_Det...
Californian drivers aren't between a rock and a hard place unless the "between" is the Apple store where I saw hundreds upon hundreds lined up waiting to hand over gas money for the new iPad. (Although, with credit cards today, they could've all just as well been lined up at the Ferrari dealership ready to sign a 12 month lease)
just spent $125 for 34 gal gas. That's all we can do at one time here- took advantage of Kroger discount, might last me a week.
The "Axis of Evil"(US, UK and Israel) starting WW3.
...under the leadership of Reichs Chancellor Netanyahu.
Sy Hersh wrote that an attack on Iran by Bush was imminent 5 years ago. And 4 years ago. We could have had this all over with by now.
Damn that Bush!
You guys gleefully waiting for the "imminent" financial collapse should be all for this oil war disruption thingie, it will sink us fast.
U got that right.
What about additional bunker busters?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/obama-promises-bunker-busters-israel-if-ne...
It's one thing to fly in through sovereign airspace, another to get out cause the jets must refuel either close to drop points on the way in or darn quick on the way out. I am not sure they can do it even with just one refueling?!
I guess we may get to find out...
Pete
We have 2 aircraft carriers in the region and 1 more on the way. Aircraft carriers can accept the landing and storage of airplanes.
Not when they're lying on their sides..
...or displacing water from the seabed.
ha-ha...and without a tail hook to catch the wire they would continue across the flightdeck while the "Airboss" announces we have another bolter as the ship throws on the brakes to avoid running over another no-tailhook aircraft. I think you get my point..only aircraft configured to land and takeoff on carriers can do so and the required pilot training is an additional plus.
who could have guessed?
how stand-alone brave of them, too, shouldn't we note?
i'm pretty sure it's canada's turn to go first, tho, isn't it?
can we get a fuking break, here, pullleeeese! jeeeeeez!
What corner? $4.29 today in the "far west" suburbs of Chicago.
Oops, I just gave away my bunker location.
Don't answer that knock at the door...
Landshark
I've had to trade down to Landshark... a decent cheap beer.
Pretty sure Knuksie was making an SNL reference.
Candygram.
Don't open the door to greyheads.
Don't open the door to Coneheads.
$4.19 best price-Costco central valley, Ca. Hard to dig a bunker at 14' above sea level. Sitting ducks. Made my peace.
And Barry's campaign manager (CNBC) is out with the spin...
http://www.cnbc.com/id/46760636
War very soon. Cue HFTs and major stock panic. Israel will NOT wait for Obama.
This is excellent news!
Oil prices will drop in the long run after the valuable natural resources are freed from the grips of the backwards, barbaric tyrants. Providing competing entrepeneurs with access to the resources will help relieve humanity's most urgent needs. This will help move us toward a more peaceful world organized by division of labor and free exchange.
It is a logically justifiable and cheap way to make the world a better place.
I only hope the USA joins in with Israel so that overwhelming force can be focused on the chosen targets. I'm guessing the strategy will be to blind Iran and quickly achieve air dominance. Then, act to prevent an annoying naval mine barrage in Strait of Hormuz. Next, take out the dozen "cancer treatment" factories located in underground bunkers.
Yeah Occupy them kill them and then give the Country to Banksters and Corporations. They know what is good for the people and worldwide peace
>Banksters and Corporations. They know what is good
Of course they do. Like individuals, but unlike governments or bureaucracies, they are profit-seeking.
Oil prices will drop in the long run after the valuable natural resources are freed from the grips of the backwards, barbaric tyrants. Providing competing entrepeneurs with access to the resources will help relieve humanity's most urgent needs.
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So the backward, barbaric tyrants are not part of humanity.
So much for three billions people who wont see one drop of iranian oil.
US citizens, hijacking humanity since 1776, July, 4th.
>US citizens, hijacking humanity since 1776, July, 4th.
Actually, the US has the among the highest ratings for economic freedom in the world.
It's backwards governments like the one in Iran that are hijacking humanity.
did you wipe your hands after pulling that "statistic" out of your ass or did you just lick your fingers as usual?
Do you need help using google?
Do you need American blood and treasure to "pacify" a non-threatening Iran?
Economic freedom, what is that?
Scratching the ass freedom, how about that one?
Iranians do not hijack humanity. They might come to it but hijacking humanity is US citizen stuff.
Iranians do not speak on the behalf on humanity as it is so natural to US citizens.
Iranians speak on their behalf, on the behalf of their god, but not humanity.
.
Chinese citizenism: murdering tens of millions, shitting on the side of the road and blobbing-up since 243 BC.
DiscountViagra
AA- from the land of peoples who sleep with pigs and goats- spreading influenza one year at a time. A bit of bird flu with your bird brain? China is not exactly well regarded in the world of human rights, intellectual property rights, or just doing the right thing...Hack much?
And that explains why so many people want to immigrate to the US both legally and illegally every year because nobody informed them we are as you say "US citizens, hijacking humanity". I will get back with you in a few days after my laughing hysteria winds down.
you are a motherfucking retard.
and I mean that with all due respect.
He was either being sarc or its Neti himself posting.
Please stop lowering the SNR (signal-to-noise) ratio of this thread
Fuck the Zionist entity....
The Nazi's taught them well...
And no I aint semetic....
I'm anti oppression and anti bullshit...
In conclusion, anyone on the planet that is a consumer...is now poorer than when the day started. That is all.
We just passed $4.00 gas all over Nevada with a few minor exceptions. Lee Vining, near Yosemite is over $5.00. Do not think there will be a war anytime soon. If Israel does attack Iran, you are going to have 1 pissed off President who can kiss his re-election good bye. Who wants a president who cannot control the .....Muppets.
That assumes one thing.. That there is an election.
There were elections during the civil war. There will be an election, you will have the choice of a black goldman sacks guy or white goldman sacks guy......... decision decisions
>you will have the choice of a black goldman sacks guy or white goldman sacks guy......... decision decisions
The populace have demonstrated their inability to choose wisely. Thankfully, the choice has been taken away from them.
Better focus on American Idol instead.
The thesis of Hans-Hermann Hoppe is inexorably coming true (see Democracy: The God That Failed).
I am waiting for the democracy dance on idol to the tune of "Show me what democracy looks like This is what democracy looks like".
In the Civil War, the constitution was still young, hot and popular. It had a good figure and everyone stared.
Why would they remove the single greatest insurance policy to their power?
Hope.
Iran may already have a working, deliverable nuke. If they don't and are attacked, it will certainly be next on their list.
Israel may produce the results they seek to avoid. I believe it's just noise.
Just like Osirak. That plant was not and could not have been part of any Iraqi nuclear weapons program. The Israelis, with their vaunted intelligence, must have known this, it seems to me. But they blew it up anyway. Thus began the Iraqi nuclear weapons program--in earnest. Or so I have read.
False flag Galore coming up,,, but Israel wont attack just yet,, $ 6 for Gas, will look cheap when the REAL SHTF,,
Dont forget Persian/ Iranian New year on the 20th,, ideal time for something to go woooooooooooooshh
Will the 19th do, so history can rhyme with itself?
http://articles.cnn.com/2003-03-19/us/sprj.irq.int.bush.transcript_1_coa...
Bush declares warstill a vernal equinox date, Sun enters Aries. . .
this year as well - 19/20 March, depending on where you land in the "time zones". . .
That might be it - the Israelis will take their chances with a moderately liberal Republican instead.
<< "Muppets" eclipses "Sheeple" as term of art for the unwashed masses
<< "Sheeple" forever, dood
I've down-arrowed myself to disavow any bias construed from my avatar. :D
nuke israel for peace in the middle east
The Estate of Jim Henson should take legal action on this perversion of their trademark brand. Take another $1 billion out of the Squid.
You still holding onto BAC from $5?
they'd have to go way back to the mid-80's when Mike Leigh made the BritTV movie Meantime - I can't read the word "Muppet" without hearing Phil Daniels calling Tim Roth "mmMuppet!"
if you've not seen that film, do yourself a favour. . . it's a great taste of Thatcher's Britain, hella funny, hella sad - prime Mike Leigh actually.
(also has Gary Oldham playing a skin-head, early role)
Can someone please do the world a favour and rehypothecate Bibi to somewhere deep in outer space
Send the still comatose Ariel Sharon with him.
Yeah, right! The Israeli's are very likely to leak the results of their cabinet meeting, just so that the Iranians will have time to prepare for the upcoming attack. And just a few days ago ZH was saying there was an agreement with Obama to delay the attack until after the election.
The Israeli's may or may not attack Iran. But there a lot of noise and confusion being leaked from secret sources. No telling whether any of it is actually true.
Today at a Shell station in Portola Valley, CA (SF Bay Area/Peninsula) I paid $4.45/gal.
I hope the psychopathic fascist Zionist Israeli politicos understand that if they launch this attack they're going to be starting a regional war that could end up going nuclear. The Russians and Chinese simply aren't going to accept this bullshit. Remember when Georgia launched that surprise attack on S. Ossetia? Well, the only reason the U.S.-backed Georgians retreated was because the Russians moved up their mobile ICBM missile launchers and THREATENED TO WIPE THEM OFF THEM OFF THE FACE OF THE PLANET.
The reason they retreated was because the out of date russian harware was making swiss cheese out of our fancy new equipment (Oktar Cobras)
pods
I know where that is, they suck. Bay area has always had the highest gas. I moved in 1986. Get 'er done.
re China & Russia - considering we keep screwing with Chinas oil suppliers in MENA, not sure how much longer they are going to put up with this shit when Iran is another oil supplier taken away from China. The unintended consequences could very well be WW3
I'm not so sure the consequences are unintended...and I'm pretty sure China knows that.
And there lay the real danger.
they have a central bank too right?? puff puff pass the usury
iSad! If the jews go in, they will get slaughtered and we have to go after them! Many of our brave men and women will have to get into something they have little or nothing to do with! Some will fall, some will get injured, some bad, some worth, adn for what?!?!
Imagine Iran deploying rockets our intel does not know shit about, the ones hidden away..just in case...Israel will be hit hard, many innoncent people will die, just so their warmongering "leaders" try one more time to "conquer" the world, with our help of course! What a big joke! Oil, big joke! ETC ETC ETC
I hope if they really do it they get whiped real good and we take our time launching aircraft to bail them out! But whaddayaknow...we have our "motives" too, don't we, eh?
This thing could escalate out of control real fast and then....
Iran 2012 ain't Iraq 1981, bitchez.
May this act of war get israel deleted.
Wonder how long Russia or China or any other nation would wait to put down Iran if it were them that Iran said it intended to wipe off the map?
My bet and speculation posted few times on ZH:
- Attack by no later than March 20
- Oil spikes
- SPR release
- Oil down to $45 (so Obama hopes to get re-elected)
- Greek CDS auction (anybody remembers it?) is on March 19.
- Full market collapse by 2000 or 3000 dow points in 1 or 2 days ensues.
I disagree.
After this recent SPR release the price of oil dropped less than $2. It was a joke.
A regional conflict with the possibilty of it going nuclear will create such a dramaicspike in oil that any feeble SPR release will do absolutely nothing.
There was no SPR release. It was just a test as to what the effect would be. $2 in 20 minutes, it looks quite great effect to me.
umm Facebook needs to go public first.... carry on afterwards
Good one.
Finally, Armageddon? Hell no. If Iran gets attacked, the Saoudi's will pump up more oil. Problem solved. No oil crisis. Boring world we live in.
Next `Black Swan`, after Greek default and Iran, will be French elections. Keynesian money printer/debt maker Francois Hollande elected, eurocrisis back to front! Hell no, Sarkozy gets re-elected. Problem solved. No new euro crisis. Boring world we live in.
I think the only true black swan is if pakistan nukes india for whatever reason... then all those cheap off shore jobs go poof and corp balance sheets go to the shits
A true black swan would be an event no one has yet contemplated.
Mitt Romney converting to Islam and joining the Libertarian Party?
Hillary converting to Islam, full burqa.
(since the Chelsea married an orthodox jew, ceremony & all, that would deffy be a *shocker!!*)
ANYTHING to get that Gorgon covered-up and out of public view is fine by me!
If Pakistan nuked India ... who would answer the phones?
Peggy.
Peggy is RUSSIAN not Indian. But really, Paki nuke India? Never. If they used every weapon in their inventory there would still be 800 million really pissed off Indians swarming the border.
LookingWithAmazement said:
...as soon as they can finish rebuilding the destroyed crude oil storage and shipping facilities at Ras Tanura and nearby locations. Until then, get used to gasoline at $20 per gallon, when available.
Why does anyone put up with such a grave threat to American economic security as Netanyahu, Israel, and the prospect of $6 gas?
How laughable this once great land has become. Hollowed from the inside.
What about our Iranian brethren, who put up daily with grave threats like Ahmadinejad?
Why not be charitable and assist them, given that we have the capability to do so?
If I knew my neighbor was beating his wife, I would do something to intervene.
If I knew my neighbor was beating his wife, I would do something to intervene.
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Made me laugh. Yes, US citizen intervention style.
US citizen:my neighbour beat his wife. I intervened. I killed the man, I raped the woman and I sold the children to pedophiles. At least, I did not do that to my own family.
>US citizen:my neighbour beat his wife. I intervened. I killed the man, I raped the woman and I sold the children to pedophiles
Honestly, I don't know any American who would do that.
If I knew a neighbor was beating his wife, I would most likely employ the social apparatus of coercion, viz. the police.
Just like I would employ another apparatus of coercion, viz. the armed forces, to free the Iranian people from the cruel regime that they are subjected to.
Honestly, I don't know any American who would do that.
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Really. So it means no knowledge of soldiers, police officers or/and that soldiers, officers can not be US citizens.
Acting through proxy does not change the cure applied by US citizenism.
Chinese citizenism would have treated the family much more kindly: the father would be sent to a "re-education camp" in colonized Tibet, the woman would have an enforced abortion before being permanently separated from the rest of her family, and the children would be generously given jobs in a bootleg Nike factory for 12 hours a day at 2 yuan per hour.
Colonized Tibet?
The US of A is a colonial country.
The US of A lives on Indian lands.
What is the obsession with poor achievers like Chinese?
US citizenism. You've got an issue of overconsumption? The non consumers, the low consumers are the cause. Never the big consumers.
No matter how hard US citizens wish it, China is a small player.
Pushing forward Tibet (60 years ago) to make for Iraq, Afghanistan, libya, maybe soon Syria and Iran.
Wait for it, you are worth your last performance and Chinese tibetan performance dates back and is dwarfed by previous US citizen achievements like the US of A.
Give US citizens their deserved spotlight. US citizens have worked for it.
China is hardly a "small player", being the world's leading source of CO2 and atmospheric pollution, having the second-largest economy, the highest rate of resource extration and exploitation, as well as having 1300 million people packed into an area about the same size as the United States --- and still growing!
So in other words, "Do as we say, not as we do".
Got it.
Hypocrisy, totalitarianism and blobbing-up: Hallmarks of chinese citizenism since 243 BC.
At least the Chinese are killing and maiming their own people. Can't say the same for the grand ol US of A. But if it makes you feel better to hate on China just to be able to swallow what your own country is doing abroad, I say keep on trucking.
AA- Shut up and serve me my egg roll!
You want prum sauce with egg lorr?
+1 for Ph.D in Engrish
Perfect timing on the announcement too! They don't miss a trick.
Double trouble...arsenal double barrel .45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM-DGaNmtA0&feature=player_embedded
I want one (or is it 2) in 10mm.
"My! That's a big one!" --Serial Killer to Dirty Harry when Harry pulls out his .357 Magnum
We will bring freedom and democracy to Iran. No doubt about it. And secure its oil supply of course.
More like liberating the oppressed oil.
Of course, the Iranian government has no legitimate claim to oil deposits occuring naturally on Iranian land. Did it purchase them or originally homestead them? No, it seizes them through coercion.
It's not theft to take what's already been stolen.
Ed Wood character Dr. Acula said:
That sounds a lot like American citizenism, the new theory of historical propagandized economic resource extractionary depletionism as an ideology of global domination that I've been hearing so much about.
Make me laugh!
And it also causes global warming and genital warts, too.
And I hear it is even eternal.
Of course, it helps to deliver the message if you are an autistic Chinese online troll.
Sorry but this is bullshit. In fact, that is one of the most offensive things I have ever read on ZH.
Justifying theft and murder. Dr. Acula huh? Study under Mengela?
Fucking deplorable.
Don't waste your time feeding the troll--Dracula is certainly one.
I know it's just when I read crap like that it makes me want to vomit.
That's the same rationale that resulted in selling blankets tainted with small pox to the indians. It's disgusting.
Just give troll Dracula his favourite Iranian cancer treatment.
"2012 American Democracy created using depleted uranium rounds."
"Ooooooh, I'm sorry you didn't answer in the form of....."
"Wait, wait, wait, WHAT IS 2012 American Democracy created using depleted uranium rounds?"
DING,DING,DING !!!
"That is correct, tell him what he's won Don Pardo!"
Seriously... the most legitimate claim to oil is that it is on your own land. You want to disqualify the entire land itself as not Iranian?
Worry about American coercion & eminent domain, taxation through inflation & corruption before you go looking in someone else's house to complain about the drapes or the floor.
Kenya believe they won't wait for Obama?
13.99 for a kilo of bananas in America?
http://downloads.naftemporiki.gr.edgesuite.net/static/12/03/16/us_consum...
1.30 euros in Greece bitchez!
As if any store in America would sell anything by the kilo.
$0.69 per pound at Foodtown
Chevron 811 W Olympic Blvd & Figueroa St. close to USC $5.99 per gallon
Fleet Fueling 800 N Hollywood Way & W Clark Ave in Burbank $4.01 per gallon
avg $ 4.389, five cents above state avg and over a doelar over the national average $3.803 at $106.210+ a barrel
http://www.losangelesgasprices.com/
no smoking at the pumps!
Only one thing in the world is worse than a nuclear war. Losing a nuclear war.
It's called M.A.D. http://www.nuclearfiles.org/menu/key-issues/nuclear-weapons/history/cold-war/strategy/strategy-mutual-assured-destruction.htm
And so it is done....
Maxine Waters: "Netanyahu is a liar. He will never attack Iran without the USA."
I don`t know about you guys, but I'm sure glad we have such a reliable and honest banking system to back our imperialistic endeavours alongside Israel.....thank you Holdr, thank you Oboma...u guys are the best! Pass GO and Collect 200 million.
(SARC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecPeSmF_ikc
All of this threats of war sound like blustering. If Israel was seriously considering an attack, they would not talk so openly.
I come from a family of Armenian Christians who fled Turkey and found refuge in Iran in the wake of World War I. I don't like the leadership of the Islamic Republic but I certainly don't want to see Iran turn into another failed sectarian terrorist state like Iraq or Afghanistan under the occupation of the US. Just look what happened to the Chaldean and Assyrian Christian communities in Iraq after the fall of Baghdad. They were driven out from their ancient homes and many are now living in Iran.
Unlike the Arab nations, I believe Iran has a strong potential for positive political reform and it is a much different nation compared to the terrible times of the 1980s. Christians and Jews have relative freedom and I don't know of any relatives who were or have been harassed for their beliefs. The religious oppression of the regime is directed against Shia Muslims who want to leave their faith.
The sanctions and warmongering by Israel and the US only work to solidify support for the religiously conservative and nationalistic elements of Iran. An attack would be a disaster.
Yes, there is injustice, corruption, and political oppression of reformists but it is nothing compared to one of the West's great ally, Saudi Arabia.
I think you're looking at this situation way too logically. You think the fascist elements in Israel who want to launch this attack are unaware of blow-back of the sort you just mentioned? (i.e. an attack empowering the nationalist elements within Iran)
The elites in control of the Western governments and Israel are psychopathic and ultimately self-destructive.
They want a regional war large enough to create such a global crises that the sheeple of the world will willingly embrace a totalitarian global government.
It doesn't matter if billions die in a nuclear holocaust.
Satan is on the clock and his seat of power is now Israel (now that he has moved from the US and prior to that Britain).
That son of a bitch still owes me money for the cable bill.
I totally agree.
The only rational player in this drama at this moment is Iran.
War has already been declared on them by historical standards, and they refuse to be goaded.
Iran actually has the moral high ground at this point ,but it will not stop the maniacs lanching
an attack.
Time to get some iodine tablets I think.
Not sure, but I think iodine tablets are meant for reactor-meltdown-type events--and are less effective the older you are. Someone will surely correct me if I'm mistaken, but I think they're mainly to protect the thyroids of children and young adults. I've lived within about 40 miles of a plant for about 15 years now and acquired some KI years ago.
Radiation from a nuclear detonation ,ie x-rays and alpha particles,will disable the
thyroid of any human being,no matter what age ,unless iodine is taken to keep it
functional until it can recover..Main cause of death in radiation poisoning ,unless you get
such a high exposure that nothing helps.
WHO says
"For adults over 40, the scientific evidence suggests that stable iodine
prophylaxis not be recommended unless doses to the thyroid from
inhalation are expected to exceed levels that would threaten thyroid
function. This is because the risk of radiation induced thyroid carcinoma in
this group is very low while, on the other hand, the risk of side effects
increases with age."
Great, just great. Can't win...don't try.
Source, for those interested: http://www.who.int/ionizing_radiation/pub_meet/Iodine_Prophylaxis_guide.pdf
reason for iodine in salt?
Nuclear Detonation Timeline "1945-1998"
>I don't know of any relatives who were or have been harassed for their beliefs
How wonderful. I guess you aren't related to any gay Baha'i people:
"4,000 lesbians and gays have been executed since the 1979 Islamic revolution. Methods of execution include; beheading, chopped in two, stoning to death, burning alive, and being thrown alive from a high building" - http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Persecution_of_Homosexuals_(Iran)
"Iran’s largest non-Muslim religious minority (now numbering about 300,000 people) has faced systematic persecution; resulting in the loss of jobs, pensions, properties and inheritances; discrimination in education and employment; violence incited by state-sponsored propaganda; arbitrary arrests and unlawful trials; and thousands of individual Baha’is killed for their beliefs." - http://iran.bahai.us/overview/
Does Iran have an AIDs problem?
Living up to your name again Dingleberry?
Like I said, I don't deny the Islamic Republic is oppressive towards certain groups but policy makers in the West don't actually care about these things. Don't tell me someone like Santorum laments the gay rights issues in the Middle East.
Iran is a bad place. But thanks to US citizens and their inherent talent, it will get worse.
Libya was a bad place but you did not see what is happening right now.
Same with the rest...
While you're at it, shouldn't you blame the fall of Constantinople to the Turks (Anatolian US Citizens?) in 1453 on "US Citizenism" too?
It would make as much sense as anything else you have to say.
How many Americans have been persecuted to death in the USA since 1979, would ya guess?
You think it's less than 4000?
Just curious. Oppression's all bad'n'stuff. Mean people suck.
NO NO REALLY THIS TIME THEY REALLY MEAN IT FOR REAL!
Organized religion is bullshit no matter what is prayed to for however long. It is even worse than vampire capitalism.
...prophetic.
Did we not hear that the country of Israel was the world's largest "investor" in oil futures? I wonder how they are dated?!?
A little war talk should be worth the return of a few more points for the Israeli investment. Seems like it should be illegal though.
>Seems like it should be illegal though.
Why should profiting from a rightful action be illegal?
Why should war by Israel be rightful? It looks wrong to me
Being the conspiratorial nut case that I am, I cannot help but think all are involved with increasing the price of oil. BP is fixing to pay out bilions, so they want payback. Israel, Iran, Britain, US oil companies and government.....all are in cahootz. Until I see actual bunker busters dropped on Iran.....SHUT THE FUCK UP. We have been hearing about this bullshit "crisis" for EVER.......enough already!!!!!