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Bundesbank's Weidmann Warns: Debt Monetization Is An Addictive Drug

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It is one thing for various anti-Central Planning (and thus central bank) outlets to warn, over 3 years ago, that easy monetary policy is merely an enabling substance, and is addictive as any drug to a dysfunctional political establishment which is more than happy to avoid fiscal prudence if monetary policy is readily available to delay the inevitable day of reckoning when monetizing the debt will no longer work. It is a different matter entirely when the head of the world's only solvent central bank -  the German Bundesbank, which happens to be the biggest guarantor of that other mega hedge funds the ECB, and which of all developed economies also happens to have had the closest recent encounter with hyperinflation (unlike all the "other" theoretical experts who enjoy talking extensively about matters they have zero experience with). In an interview with German Spiegel magazine, Buba head Jens Weidmann, once again has loudly warned what as recently as 2009 very few dared to even think: namely that rampant and gratuitous deficit plugging using central bank debt issuance, and thus explicitly monetizing the debt, "can be addictive as a drug." Obviously, like any drug overdose, the aftereffects are always fatal.

From Spiegel:

Bundesbank President Jens Weidmann has strongly criticized of the plans of the European Central Bank to launch a new program to purchase government bonds. "Such a policy is for me too reminiscent of public funding via printing," Weidmann warns in an interview with SPIEGEL. "In democracies it is parliaments that should decide on such an extensive pooling of risks, and not central banks."

 

If you buy the Euro-banks government bonds of individual countries, "the papers end up in the balance sheet of the Eurosystem," Weidmann warns: "Ultimately, the taxpayers of all other countries pay." The basic problems are not solved in this way, the Bundesbank president - on the contrary: "The blessing of the central banks would raise persistent monetization demands," said Weidmann in SPIEGEL. "We should not underestimate the risk that central bank financing can be addictive like a drug."

Is Weidmann insane? After all, central banks are known to always end their futile unconventional and massive monetization programs on cue and when promised, because they are always so well attuned to the threat of runaway inflation when the assets of global cental banks account for 30% of global GDP. Naturally, this explains why after two failed Quantitative Easing episodes, and two additional Curve shaping, flow-facilitating exercises by the Fed, there is not even a peep of more NEW QE on the horizon - after all Ben has certainly learned his lesson that the Fed is powerless to do anything when the political authorities are bickering and will do nothing to reach a consensus until the market is in free fall mode, as it was in August 2011 when the only catalyst that led to a debt ceiling hike was a market plunge.

Oh wait...

Spigel continues. 

Weidmann also provides for the independence of the ECB at risk. At second glance, to trap it in the plans "amounts to concerted actions of government bailouts and the Federal Reserve. This creates a link between fiscal and monetary policy." He wanted to "avoid, that monetary policy is under the dominance of fiscal policy."

Does the BUBA head see an imminent inflationary threat? No, and thank god. Because if the time comes that real inflation does finally arrive (as opposed to soaring prices only in things that "nobody" needs like food and energy) and the major central banks have to some how offload about $20 trillion in asset between them, then say goodbye to the status quo.... and any fiat reserve status. 

Weidmann does not see an immediate threat of inflation. "But if the monetary policy can be pegged as comprehensive political problem solvers, the central banks' real goal is threatening to drift more and more into the background." Weidmann warns therefore against commitments of the ECB to "guarantee the whereabouts of member countries in the euro zone at any price". When deciding on a possible exit of Greece "must surely play a role that no further damage is done to the trust framework of monetary union and keep the economic conditions of the assistance programs credibility."

All of the above, and the fact that German now singlehandedly calls all the shots in Europe, also explains why the ECB's latest rumored actions have slipped into the twilight zone: bond yield thresholds, though not just any bond yield thresholds, but of dodecatuple "secret" type which are completely not public (and thus do not hinder reelection chances): in other words, Schrodinger monetary policy, where CBs get the effect of the policies they (but not Germany) would like to enact, but are terrified to launch the cause.

According to recent SPIEGEL information, European central bankers would establish interest rate thresholds above which the ECB would intervene with bond purchases. This would ensure that interest rates on government bonds issued by countries such as Spain and Italy do not rise above a certain level. This proposal was, however, missing some central bankers' and the federal government's approval. A spokesman for Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble called the discussed variant as "burdened with problems." Therefore, some central bankers argue now apparently for the caps to be set internally, and remain unpublished. Some central bankers would prefer this approach to a recently discussed official ceiling, the newspaper reported.

 

The Governing Council will decide at its 6 September meeting what the promised bond purchases could look like.

Spoiler alert: they will look like nothing, because the ECB will not go ahead and enact any bond caps, secret or otherwise. Unless they want to conduct monetary policy in the absence of Germany, who have about had it with the Goldman alumnus' attempt to make European monetary policy merely an add on to Goldman year end bonus policy.

Finally, for those who think the US is immune from any of this, look at the chart below. It shows that most recently, a whopping 40% of US funding needs were "met" through debt issuance.

 


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Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:34 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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9.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:37 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Can totally quit anytime I want.....I just choose not too.

 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:01 | Link to Comment flacon
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I can raise interest rates in 15 minutes if I have to. I just choose to keep them low.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:02 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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Quitting is easy. I have already quit 240 times this year.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 17:10 | Link to Comment Lore
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Yes -- That's exactly the point. THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT. All talk to the contrary is noise. If they could keep the cart rolling by doing this forever, they would. It's exactly like "Harm Reduction" for drug addicts: perpetuate the addiction, perpetuate (and grow) the Victim Industrial Complex. In matters of debt and drug addiction, you want to control supply AND demand. That is the guiding principle of elite socio-fascist-pathocratic international banking and foreign policy. The outcome is total systemic breakdown resulting from complete and utter misallocation of capital. (Big hint: you'll know the end is near when they start talking about a Carbon Tax.) Their work done, the sociopaths will leave us to pick up the pieces again.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 10:34 | Link to Comment LMAOLORI
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The Fed has been monetizing our debt what I would really like to see on Zero Hedge is an article explaining to people what that means and how it affects them.

 

WSJ: Fed Buying 61 Percent of US Debt

We Will Not Monetize The Debt – Bernanke

"“Unless we demonstrate a strong commitment to fiscal sustainability in the longer term, we will have neither financial stability nor healthy economic growth,” Bernanke said in testimony to lawmakers today. “Maintaining the confidence of the financial markets requires that we, as a nation, begin planning now for the restoration of fiscal balance.” He said the Fed won’t finance government spending over the long term, while warning that the financial industry remains under stress and the credit crunch continues to limit spending. “Either cuts in spending or increases in taxes will be necessary to stabilize the fiscal situation,” Bernanke said in response to a question. “The Federal Reserve will not monetize the debt.”"

Bernanke Lies Under Oath re: Monetizing Debt


 

 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 10:46 | Link to Comment Sean7k
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We have to be fair here. Most of the monetization goes to banks and the money that goes to government has interest payments tied to it- more money for banks. If the FED didn't create the money, how would the banks be able to profit from its' use? It's not like the banks EARN their money.

Ben doesn't lie, he just doesn't tell the truth. Anyway, jews don't have to tell the truth to gentiles. So, it's all good!

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 15:18 | Link to Comment Sandmann
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Interest is a Cost Burden that is not productive. Every LBO imposes increased cost on consumers not attributable to product innovation

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 11:37 | Link to Comment Republicae
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It is the nature of this monetary system to organize debt into currency, the differences between a dual-tiered fiat monetary system and a single-tiered system is that the dual-tiered system has a slightly longer life-span before the entire system collapses than does a single-tier system where the government simply monetizes debt directly. The reason for that is because a dual-tiered system organizes debt into currency through a debt-market allowing for the association of massive inflationary depreciation risk to be spread among the entities which purchase the debt instruments. In the case of the U.S. we have exported inflation to the rest of the world while maintaining a relatively stable pricing structure within this country, partially due to the Reserve Currency status of the U.S. Dollar, that however, is about to change.  

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:17 | Link to Comment Sir Humphrey
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Welcome to the European Roach Motel California! You can check out any time you like but you can never leave!

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:26 | Link to Comment TIMBEEER
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You can leave any time and let the German guest pay the bill.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 12:37 | Link to Comment stocktivity
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Too young for the Eagles I see

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 18:58 | Link to Comment schadenfreude
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9!

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:35 | Link to Comment LoneStarHog
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Weidmann ... You must be the original Captain Obvious ... Addictive? ... Ya think?

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:01 | Link to Comment bank guy in Brussels
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What the Bundesbank people are avoiding talking about ...

How Germany really created the euro-zone mess ... and how the German banks would collapse in a euro break-up scenario ... interview of Adam Posen, formerly of the Bank of England:

« ... "The debt crisis is the result of decisions by the Germans who acted similarly to sub-prime lenders in the US … It was German government decisions and German banks who lent the money to all these countries so they could buy German exports," said Posen. Germany has "been running a scheme and so just as everywhere around the world you want to restructure the debt, you can’t make it all on the borrower." Lenders have to "take a hit" as well, he said. ... In break-up scenario, Germany’s currency would “shoot through the roof,” the country’s trade relations would be disrupted and its banks have to be bailed out, Posen said.»

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-08-21/germany-ill-advised-to-let-e...

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:12 | Link to Comment centerline
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Mutually assured financial destruction. That is just scratching the surface.  Expand it to oil, food, water, medicine, etc.

There is no easy way out, no one is going to accept losing, and if we continue on the current course the stakes only get raised till we finally reach a inevitable breaking point.

My bet is we keep on trucking right into the event horizon - which we will pass quietly without knowing it in advance.

 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 10:05 | Link to Comment Nachdenken
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"It was German government decisions and German banks who lent the money to all these countries so they could buy German exports...."

German exports are bought because German products are the better. 

German banks lend where there is borrower pressure, they cant lend where there is no demand for credit.  The strong and stable  DMark was desirable as a trading and balance sheet bulking currency.

Export and domestic surluses are recycled to areas where those surplusses may be maintained.

Tied loans are a feature of different nations, begin with the USA, France, the UK and now China.

Nice to now know there are sub-prime lenders in the US.  Who was a sub-prime lender until the US derivative and swap industry built massive economic castles in the air which are now being supported by more sub-prime lending by all European banks.

Get off German bashing, they are the last in line after the US, the UK and France.

 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 10:24 | Link to Comment Sean7k
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Must be why greece was given all those loans to buy german military equipment. Or china gave greece loans to buy ships they don't need. Markets are created by funding and influence (military). Yes, germans make great products, but not everybody can afford them without "help". 

"German bashing", please, is this what passes for propaganda? You explain german loan programs to buy their products and maintain employment levels, then call it bashing?

Get off the xenophobic train. 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 15:17 | Link to Comment Sandmann
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So China was loaned money to buy German imports by the USA which ran huge trade deficits to supply the Chinese with Dollars they could then recycle through the US Banking System to produce Synthetic CMOs to sell to European Banks to expand credit in the EuroZone on the back of S&P and Moddys rated "A-grade" Bonds

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 15:15 | Link to Comment Sandmann
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Like Posen is reliable - a Trilateral Commission member - he forgets CHINA as the real disruption in global economics and finance - that is what caused the Sub-Prime Crisis by recycling cheap credit to nations running huge trade deficits and permitting surplus countries to run up Credits that were unsustainable. It was the suspension of proper economic balance in trade that caused the whole mess

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:36 | Link to Comment Monk
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Total money supply is essentially that.

 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:37 | Link to Comment I am Jobe
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Crack, IAPPS Bitchezzz. Maybe they need Odumba and Mittens in Europe with their chrm. Send a few inbred Amerikans.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:48 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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And then depression set in.......we might actually have to fix this ourselves.

 

Well......that's just great freakin news there.

 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:53 | Link to Comment deez nutz
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And then depression set in.......we might actually have to fix this ourselves.

I would consider a DEEP and DARK, painfully horrendous american depresson more of an economic correction - one that has been longforth in coming (20 - 25 yrs?).  The end of the "Great American Credit Donkey" as we know it!

You will know it is here when 80% of the cars you see on your local Blvd. are more than 10 yrs. old and college kids' cars have rust.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:43 | Link to Comment Zola
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And today Neil Armstrong died. One after another, lights of courage, honor and greatness are being extinguished all over America. What is this country becoming...

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:49 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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You totally can choose........marxist, communism....or socialism.

 

Choose wisely grasshopper.

 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:00 | Link to Comment Alcoholic Nativ...
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*****blows dog wistle****

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 10:36 | Link to Comment Atomizer
Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:02 | Link to Comment I am on to you
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What about Alcoholism....Egoism..... Economism.... Drugism...Reganism or Capitalism, the virus that caused it all:Dont underestimate the addictivness of Gambling,especialy with other people lives, health and money:

Velcome to Planet Vegas ,slothalls and what follows!

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 10:00 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Thought those were the same damn thing.....I've seen an occupy rally.

 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:13 | Link to Comment deez nutz
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You totally can choose........marxist, communism....or socialism.

I think we will enter more of a fascist state as the depression begins. Politicians protecting the main source of campaign revenue, as we are seeing now. As the fabric of society breaks down and violence erupts the nation will have no choice to covert to socialism.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:39 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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I took an incredible beating on here yesterday with the shooting article in NYC. Part of my beating was attributed to defending the media coverage and how they quickly pointed out that police were responsible for the victims.

Please accept this link (from this morning) as my apology. This is ridiculous borderlining on insane.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/experts_wounded_are_price_you_pay_tn94AHxbq1Gj3qhIQaTBTL

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:47 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Well I for one totally accept your apology.

 

I'm guessing you have something else to say.......it's just a guess.

 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:52 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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Nah, I was caught off guard by some of the responses but I said what I had to say. No need to repeat it. On that one aspect (the media) I had to come back here and own up, when I read that piece.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:59 | Link to Comment centerline
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The PR machine is hard at work for sure. That one really takes the cake.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:21 | Link to Comment deez nutz
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quickly pointed out that police were responsible for the victims.

if you break this down you can backward engineer what is taking place.  Police came in with "guns ablazing" even though the assailant was not shooting.  In the old days they would assess the situation and one officer would give a command - "drop the weapon!".     You can surmise the police are being trained as well as conditioned that WHEN the SHTF you have to stop it immediately without regard to the surroundings - a full on frontal assault.  Who will get the blame in all this? the assailant as he "broke the peace".   They just reacted in accordance to their conditioning. 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:47 | Link to Comment apberusdisvet
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Hyperstagflation will be the new buzzword of the remainder of this decade.
Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:48 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Boom - that is all.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:50 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Fin......nothing more to say.

 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:50 | Link to Comment AUD
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the world's only solvent central bank -  the German Bundesbank

Are you sure about that?

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:23 | Link to Comment TIMBEEER
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yeah, I laughed at that crap. They should have a long hard look at Germany to realize how debt-ridden the zoo-like Germany is these days.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 08:50 | Link to Comment elwu
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Weidmann or his predecessort Weber should have become predident of the ECB.

Not again a representative of the ClubMed, a GS alumni on top of that.

However, due to the ridiculous distribution of power (for instance Malta (look up where and what that is) has the same voting power as Germany) in the ECB council, this would be just a beginning to get the ECB and so the Eurozone onto a sustainable path. Next step must be that the ECB council voting powers are strictly according to the economic weight of the memeber countries. Next step then the same for the EU commission, and the rest of the undemocratic supranational organisations.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:24 | Link to Comment TIMBEEER
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If a German was to head the ECB (or the EU), they would blame the Germans, whatever happened.

Oh, wait..

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:24 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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So just remove the junkies works while he takes a hit.

Good luck with that.

Thats why the euru will fail.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:15 | Link to Comment kornholio
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Bullish

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:30 | Link to Comment AynRandFan
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Monetization induced inflation hits unevenly.  Imported necessities like oil, clothing, food go up.  Real estate stays down.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:33 | Link to Comment SafelyGraze
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when I was a kid, I was told never to give money to a hobo.

he'l just spend it on booze. and hookers.

if you want to help, you can offer him a sandwich.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:35 | Link to Comment SafelyGraze
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spoiler: 

never give bailout to banker

he'll just spend it on derivatives and further indebtedness. and crack. and hookers.

if you want to help, you can offer him an ebt card.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:44 | Link to Comment vertexa
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Laid-Off US Workers Are Taking Huge Pay Cuts At Their New Jobs WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. economic recovery hasn't felt much like one even for people who managed to find new jobs after being laid off. Most of them have had to settle for less pay.
Only 56 percent of Americans laid off from January 2009 through December 2011 had found jobs by the start of this year, the Labor Department said Friday. More than half of them took jobs with lower pay. One-third took pay cuts of 20 percent or more.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:47 | Link to Comment max2205
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2 rules

Never cross the beams

Markets never go down

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 10:23 | Link to Comment Hayek FA
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3rd rule-

Ray, next time someone asks you if you’re a god, you say YES!

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 09:54 | Link to Comment intric8
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The "after effects" don't necessarily have to be "fatal" to be a worst case scenario, Tyler Durden. Ask any family with a chronic meth addict in it. They would actually be better off taking that individual on the far side of a barn and putting a bullet in the side of his head, rather than deal with years of ongoing items that go missing from the house or constant begging for cash. In the case of these leeching, chronic banks, the correct prescription would indeed be a bullet through the temple. Or a Michael Jackson sized serving of propofol.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 10:07 | Link to Comment Quinvarius
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Printing is done merely to prop up the banks.  These talking heads need to stop associating the money printing with the economy otherwise they will never understand what is going on or how to survive.  There is no way the printing will stop because the banks still need trillions.  They will print and they will lie.  They don't give a crap about the economy except to tell people that is why they are printing when they have to do it publicly again.  It isn't your money.  It isn't your world.  You are not on their team.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 10:07 | Link to Comment Nachdenken
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Bonds Away.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 10:37 | Link to Comment Sean7k
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Just imagine a world where the markets determined what was currency and its' value? Where people could use and write contracts in any value instrument they wanted to. All of this ridiculous crap would no longer exist. No one would care about the FED, ECB and all the others.

If someone wanted to create a currency, the market could decide its' place. No propaganda to maintain its' value, governments forced to pay as they go, wars fought by necessity- because you couldn't afford to otherwise. 

Real private property laws that protect the people from corporate excess and allowed you to actually own property. 

Never having to listen to an obama, romney, bush, cheney, merkel, juncker, etc- ever again. Instantly unimportant.

Not quite heaven on earth, but the elimination of CB control over money would be a true godsend. 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 11:14 | Link to Comment yogibear
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No reason for Washington or the Fed to stop. As long as both are making money the game will continue.

Washington and Wall Street continue to profit from the QE forever. Reason enough to hide the inflation aspects of all the money printing and the mounting debt.

Washington knows it won't pay it's obligations to the public. 

The banksters can get Washington to allow them to take money market and trading accounts, what else is left? IRAs and 401Ks.

 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 11:21 | Link to Comment Nawaralsaadi
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Weidmann is quickly becoming irrelevant with even Merkel backing Draghi, as he keeps sounding the alarm, the impact of his warnings continue to fade, in few months or even weeks he will sound like a crazy old man walking the streets warning of Armageddon with no one taking him seriously.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 11:54 | Link to Comment q99x2
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The battle against the FSB is the war to end all wars - again.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 12:06 | Link to Comment Dareconomics
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The President of the Bundesbank, Jan Weidmann, is against bond purchases by the ECB to keep the rates of the PIIGs stable. He believes that debt monetization is addictive, like a drug.

The endgame of a bond buying program is problematic for the ECB, because of the debt preference it has given itself for its other sovereign bond purchases:

http://dareconomics.wordpress.com/2012/08/18/the-consequences-of-unlimit...

Weidmann also points out another problem with a monetization program that is rarely spoken of. The ECB is not a democratic institution accountable to the people of Europe. Debt monetization mutualizes the risks and costs of all the governments that use the euro, and that action requires the consent of the voters in a democratic society.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 12:29 | Link to Comment JR
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Wealth transfer is the same as giving passing grades to flunking students. It discourages the good students and encourages the bad students. Bernanke’s QE stimulus not only encourages the failed TBTFs who use the QE in their own interests, but it takes away the earned wealth of the good students, the producers. Bernanke has lost his integrity; he has ignited moral hazard by encouraging higher and higher risks by the Goldman boys on their so-far-so-good perceived notion that they are protected from bankruptcy in the event of collapse.

It's rewards for gambling losses; Las Vegas saying if you lose we'll give you your money back.

Now that Bernanke’s reckless Fed policy has been shown not only to be destabilizing the domestic financial system but to be cultivating a “global moral hazard economy" nourished by cheap credit and mis-pricing of credit risk, Bernanke just keeps on with his central planning failures.

Peter Warburton of Debt and Illusion wrote in 1999 that, “in their extreme forms, both counterfeit currency and reckless credit expansion pose a direct threat to the authority of government and the rule of law.” The longer the falsehoods of the collective folly lasts, he said, “the greater the collective delusion…but one day the mist will clear, exposing the true extent of past follies” resting on the “anarchic developments of global capital and credit markets.”

The mist is clearing, exposing the collapsed structures, revealing that the power to create money is also the power to destroy.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 12:31 | Link to Comment Dick Darlington
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But but but, BBG is running an interview with BOE's Chief eCONomist Spencer Dale where the muppet claims QE has been and is good for SAVERS. Yes, u read it right, he said for SAVERS. Wow, ex Weidmann these lunatics at charge of monetary "policy" are totally out of this world.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 13:12 | Link to Comment JR
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This is Pravda; Stalin ushering in the Kremlin’s notorious era of purge and terror and starvation in the mid-1930s with the slogan “Life is better, comrades, life is gayer.”

Eventually we’ll be calling Bernanke “Dear Leader.”

So far, Bernanke’s call for sacrifice by savers only amounts to their loss of 400-500 billion dollars in lost earnings since 2008 -- to be made for the good of his Orwellian economy, of course.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 12:49 | Link to Comment Silversem
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More QE is good for me. I profit from it with a gold CFD

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 14:52 | Link to Comment TomGa
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Seems very similar to warnings published over eighty years ago in the NYTimes  in 1930. "Cheap Money is a Costly Panacea" (April 13, 1930) warned that our own  Fed's pumping of cash into banks would quickly be used by intoxicated bankers to speculate in the markets for capital appreciation, rather than being directed to business loans for the purposes of re-igniting the productive base of the economy as intended.

 

Dr. Anderson of Chemical Bank Says Remedy for Business Slump is Only Temporary

"Cheap Money is a stimulant, also an intoxicant," warned Dr. Benjamin M. Anderson Jr., economist of the Chemical Bank of New York City, in an address here tonight. "If the dose is large enough," he said,"a very substantial temporary effect can be brought about, but headaches will follow. It is not the sound way to do it."

Dr. Anderson, who is author of several books on finance and economy, said States and municipalities increased their debts with great rapidity in times of cheap money, borrowing more than was necessary because it was easy to do. This, he said, was a costly method of buying temporary prosperity.

Dr. Anderson's Address:

 

After saying that cheap money was a costly and temporary panacea for business depression, Dr. Anderson said:

"It is definitely undesirable that we should employ this costly method of buying temporary prosperity again. The world's business is not a moribund invalid that needs continuous galvanizing by an artificial stimulant."

The Federal Reserve System and the central banks of Europe are under heavy pressure from advocates of the cheap money panacea, Dr. Anderson said. The matter is exceedingly simple in the minds of its advocates, he added.

"Cheap money makes good business, firm interest rates make bad business, and the whole thing is in the hands of the Federal Reserve System," Dr.Anderson said. "If the matter really were as simple as this, everybody could be an economist, and only the perversity of the central banks would keep us from being endlessly prosperous. But when we analyze the reasoning upon which this doctrine rests, difficulties present themselves."

Interest rates, Dr.Anderson said, are only one element and not a dominant one in merchants' and manufacturers' costs. The activity of the manufacturer is governed by the prospect of profits, namely, the difference between his receipts from the sale of his product and the total of his outlay. The interest rate on money borrowed from the banks is usually a relatively small factor in this.

Cheap money will not induce manufacturers and merchants to increase their borrowings in an unsatisfactory business situation, Dr.Anderson declared. He cited the figures for commercial loans as reported by member banks of the Federal Reserve System in support of this contention.

But if merchants and manufacturers will not use cheap money, he said, speculators will. They will use cheap money in buying stocks, for the prospect of capital appreciation. Security loans of the reporting member banks stood on April 2 at the highest point in history, with the exception of the stock slump period ended Nov. 13 last and the year-end week ended Dec.31.

"Cheap Money is a stimulant," Dr.Anderson said. "It is also an intoxicant. If the dose is large enough, a very substantial temporary effect can be brought about. But the headaches follow. It is no the sound way to do it.

"In the first place, it costs too much. The ultimate gold reserves of the world are used up by it much too rapidly. A great expansion of bank credit requires a very substantial increase in member banks' reserves.

"The extremes of the movements in both these years were much greater than even these figures indicate. It is strange that those who talk about a 'gold shortage' should favor such wasteful use of reserve money, and should be willing to make such lavish expenditures of reserve credit to get such meager and temporary results, even assuming that the business activity that followed these two episodes was due wholly to this lavish expenditure of reserve credit.

"In the second place, such methods are extremely costly in their effect upon the quality of bank credit. The ideal employment of bank credit is in financing the movements of goods, in financing short, self-liquidating commercial transactions. We have gone much too far in the substitution of bank investments in bonds, collateral loans against securities, bank holdings of real estate mortgages, and bank holdings of installment finance paper for the normal bank credit that represents goods in movement and that adjusts itself automatically to the volume of trade."

 

NYTimes, April 1930

 

--Dr. Benjamin Anderson of Chemical Bank, Special to the NYTimes, April 13, 1930, p.9, Addressing the Fed's intervention to provide cheap liquidity to the markets"

 

This article does not even attempt to address the problem of banks which are UNWILLING to lend to businesses which they lock out of borrowing with extreme credit standards.

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Thanks for this interesting reference.

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