A Butterfly In Japan And A Banker In Belgium

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Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:21 | 1765011 cossack55
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Love chaos. Embrace entropy. Live anarchy. Happy trails.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 09:05 | 1765107 LawsofPhysics
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Damn straight.  The kleptocrats have known for a long time that fear is the only tool that is required to keep sheep in line.  The only reason banks don't collapse are because sheep really believe that they are too big to fail.  They are afraid of what will happen, they are afraid to be truly independent in their thoughts and theirs actions.  Thousands of years of history and nothing has changed folks.  Nature makes no promises regading your survival, why anyone belives similar promises coming from a politician is beyond me, yet they do.  Embrace the collapse and a new begining.  It comes one way or another, now pass the popcorn cossack.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 09:08 | 1765118 Zgangsta
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You down with entropy?

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:28 | 1765012 DormRoom
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all this QE has pushed up commodity prices, so that input costs are rising, impeding earnings growth.  Any type of EFSF plan does not solve the imbalances between Europe North-South.    China-US trade war, pushing the USD lower, will destabilize the yen, and force more BOJ intervention, tipping Japan into recession, and possiblity of sovereign default.  Triffin dilemma is still unresolved between US-China.


@ best developed economies head into stagflation.  worse case scenario: hyper stagflation, and all stores of wealth are wiped out as near everyone loses their jobs.


see what's happening in Britain as a prelude.  Highest unemployment in 17 years, and 5% CPI inflation.  And this is before the Fed considers QE3

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:22 | 1765013 GeneMarchbanks
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Put away the pipe. Chaos theory, really?! You're clutching at anything & everything now.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 09:00 | 1765034 Mercury
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It's more like a globe-spanning Rube Goldberg contraption designed to prevent risk from ever being accurately priced by market forces.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 09:05 | 1765109 baten
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As a sidenote - have you heard anything related to Roubini Global Economics being bankrupt?

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 09:21 | 1765153 Mercury
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I hear it's principals are doing just fine.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:22 | 1765015 Cursive
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I still have some hope that the insanity will be nipped in the bud, that some country will see they are going too far and risking the futures of too many, to protect too few right now.

We're on the verge of a Euro collapse and he still thinks this?

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:24 | 1765021 GeneMarchbanks
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Some dope. He meant dope.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:54 | 1765088 Manthong
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He said bud.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:41 | 1765053 SheepDog-One
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I dont have any hope of a sudden Springtime for Sanity at all...thats why I stockpile ammunition. These markets can do whatever they want I dont really care.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:22 | 1765017 Minoan
Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:23 | 1765018 TradingJoe
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Market will turn o a dime at 1220 latest! We all know about the manipulation yet we seem to forget it every time we see it!  Given all what has been going on since 2007-08 we should be trading with the ants now, yet we are HERE! THAT should tell it ALL!

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:27 | 1765025 CapitalistRock
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Dollar surge again today. Strange.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:30 | 1765031 GeneMarchbanks
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Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:41 | 1765055 HelluvaEngineer
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Your chart is upside down.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:42 | 1765060 SheepDog-One
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Dollar surge? Or you mean stocks surge due to dollar plunge?

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 10:52 | 1765694 Mike2756
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What are the odds that this is a bull trap up here?

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:31 | 1765029 disabledvet
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Why equities are rising anywhere still needs to be explained (it probably already has been among the large Wall Street trading houses--or what's left of them.) What we do know is that the EU flying apart is a massive competitive advantage for the US and China. Monetizing this advantage however is a whole 'nother game entirely as Europe itself represents a huge market for these two nations' wares. The only thing that seems certain is that once the EU nations start "flying off the wheel" it would be hugely inflationary for them as they would have to go back to their worthless currencies that they had before. The cut to living standards would be as enormous as it would be instantaneous. It sounds like total chaos to me.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:34 | 1765039 ArkansasAngie
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The reason ... Fed goodwill.

The dollar is down.  If the market matches the fall in the dollar back to August levels ... well ... BTFD.


No way ... no how.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:40 | 1765052 ArkansasAngie
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Making lemonade ... since I'm not in the MARKET, I am forced to invest my money elsewhere.  As a result I'm in my local market.  I'm bying income producing real estate.  I'm investing in local start ups.

They may get your gold but it will be a while before they come get my apartment complex.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 09:10 | 1765123 LawsofPhysics
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There it is!  Dumped paper gold last November for some rentals and more farm land.  Yeah, I was never good at picking tops, so be it.  You better be investing in income-generating assets that your neighbors, customers, and community in general will have a vested interest in protecting.  NOBODY is going be able to fight the government monsters that will be forthcoming by themselves.

Know your neighbors, got physical?  You better.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:31 | 1765033 wombats
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Can a butterfly in Japan cause a bank run on JPM or BofA?  I sure hope so.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:41 | 1765054 cossack55
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Think Mothra.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:35 | 1765041 Zgangsta
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Whatever happens, it's all bullish for stocks.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:36 | 1765043 nmewn
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Who's up for another crony capitalist expose'?

"How did a failing California solar company, buffeted by short sellers and shareholder lawsuits, receive a $1.2 billion federal loan guarantee for a photovoltaic electricity ranch project—three weeks after it announced it was building new manufacturing plant in Mexicali, Mexico, to build the panels for the project.
The company, SunPower (SPWR-NASDAQ), now carries $820 million in debt, an amount $20 million greater than its market capitalization.  If SunPower was a bank, the feds would shut it down.  Instead, it received a lifeline twice the size of the money sent down the Solyndra drain.
Two men with insight into the process are SunPower rooter Rep. George R. Miller III, (D.-Calif.), the senior Democrat on the House Education and Workforce Committee and the co-chairman of the Democratic Steering and Policy Committee, and his SunPower lobbyist son, George Miller IV."


Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:48 | 1765077 Yamaha
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That's why they call this the new normal. Same Government corruption.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 09:34 | 1765229 nmewn
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They don't even bother setting up related shell companies anymore...its now just open theft straight from the Treasury into their pockets.

Really amazing.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:42 | 1765057 falak pema
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A congressman in Washington can start the acrimonious stampede on Capitol Hill as the Oligarchs start mud slinging amongst themelves. 


You Won't Believe Who Newt Gingrich Wants To Throw In Jail For The Financial Crisis



Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:52 | 1765085 Yamaha
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Yes, but if we throw Barney Frank in jail he will like it too much and will provide new sexual deceases in the prison system that we will all have to pay for in the future.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:45 | 1765068 SheepDog-One
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Kill the Dollar.....Save the Futures.....Kill the Dollar...

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 08:56 | 1765089 Poor Grogman
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How about we use the Zero hedge logo as the basis for a new currency unit called the "zero" that way we could join in the printing party.
It could be "tied " to an ounce of gold and we could offer a fractional reserve banking service for those people overseas who wanted to use the new money.
The zero would soon become the new world currency and then the federal reserve and ECB could be replaced by zero hedge.

Everyone lives happily ever after.

See all you have to do is think it through a bit....

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 09:06 | 1765114 YHC-FTSE
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Of course at some point the banking problem will become a French/German problem. Not only that, but a Eurozone problem, then ultimately an EU problem bringing those outside the EZ (but EU member) the same pains as everyone else. As a UK tax payer, I'm already anticipating a shit storm in our banking sector, more unemployment, more taxes, more austerity, and more civil strife no matter how the talking heads on the msm dress up the rotting mutton that is today's economy.


You wrote some great articles on Dexia, and Belgium is a good indicator of where things are heading in Europe. Dexia has 566 Billion € of "assets", 155 billion € of public debt, while Belgium itself has 322 billion € of debt countered by 340 billion € GDP. Nationalising Dexia has, in one smooth stroke of the pen, made the Belgium debt to GDP ratio positively Japanese. 


And that, in a nutshell, is the European solution. To become Japan and surpass her in the Debt/GDP ratio while making the middlemen, bankers, and creditors wealthy beyond imagination. The Euro's strength sustained by the SDR compulsory purchases by IMF members (Just like the Yen, USD, & GBP), to offset the mad printing sprees. Meanwhile, the unemployed/retired get to suck at the teat of central government slowly succumbing to malnourishment by rising prices. Same old same old until another country falls off the cliff. Each time I expect a cascade failure of this complex system, it's saved by another bout of faux news and bandaids. 


Anyway, many thanks for the contributions you make here. Well appreciated.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 09:19 | 1765149 LawsofPhysics
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"And that, in a nutshell, is the European solution. To become Japan and surpass her in the Debt/GDP ratio while making the middlemen, bankers, and creditors wealthy beyond imagination. "

The world's financial system is set up so that there can be no other outcome.  Unfortunately, there is only enough room for so many "Japan-like" economies.  How many?  Who knows, but all economies still require energy to run, no energy, no economy. While there are many energy solutions out there, all this mis-allocation of capital and people's time make it highly unlikely that the energy issues get addressed and things will begin uncoupling exponentially faster.  Too bad folks don't understand the exponential expression.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 09:30 | 1765197 YHC-FTSE
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Yep. I've spent far too much time worrying about the economy accelerating towards disaster. We can all see the final outcome, but time seems to have slowed down at the moment of collision. 


There's a passage in a Douglas Adams book, probably the last in the series of the Hitchiker books, where he describes a bunch of morons (The first humans on earth) running around destroying their environment and getting rich by using leaves as their currency. Every time I look around, that's precisely what comes to mind.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 09:07 | 1765117 adr
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It's earnings season so the dollar tanks. After earnings season you'll see the dollar go back up. You don't think there could be some last minute accounting changes to make some of that profit look better do you?

Corporate profits as they are reported are pure fiction. Some corporations choose to lie a bit less, usualy dividend paying ones, but others like non dividend paying tech and the BS momo stocks should have presented by mother goose written on the reports.

The stock market and many of the pie in the sky P/E crowd exist to generate income from the sale of insider granted stock. The IPO market is a joke.

It all just needs to end.

Wed, 10/12/2011 - 09:23 | 1765124 citrine
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