From "Buy The Rumor" To "Buy The Rumor Of The Rumor"

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TzaristBondHolder's picture

Tyler, have a better one for today.......called the magic $31.

 

Here is the fresh Bloomberg article today:  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-23/morgan-stanley-gains-most-among-banks-as-france-concern-wanes.html

 

Deja vu. I had to re-read the article several times as something sounded rather familiar. Then my brain spit out something priceless......it was the price target of $31. Where did we hear it before? 

Here: "Morgan Stanley recommended investors buy Lehman Brothers LEH.N shares, setting a price target of $31" http://reut.rs/lDNMvr 

We all know what happened after. $2bln total exposure? How sure is MS this time around?

Great time to add to the shorts. Desperate "Risk On" Brigade Gets A Morgan Stanley Reinforcement.... I thought I'd share a Dow Rosecast Bradley chart predicting the market directions:http://inkom.com.au/sites/defa... 

Magical $31.....

Irish66's picture

Morgan Stanley CEO Moved To Quash Rumor About European Bank Exposure -Fox Business's Gasparino Last update: 9/23/2011 1:50:27 PM DOW JONES NEWSWIRES Morgan Stanley (MS) Chief Executive James Gorman called analysts to quash a rumor that the firm faced heavy losses due to its exposure to European banks, Fox Business Network's Charles Gasparino reported Friday. Gorman then ordered Morgan Stanley's traders to buy the firm's own debt in a bid to demonstrate its own financial health, Gasparino added. Gorman told bank analyst Richard Bove that Morgan Stanley's "net exposure" to French banks in particular was "zero," according to Gasparino's report. Full story at http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2011/09/23/morgan-stanley-bounces-aft...

Village Smithy's picture

I am sorry but do they really expect us to believe that they backed the truck up for $29 Billion of exposure but then hedged it down to $2 Billion?

lolmao500's picture

So I bought double long etf silver at 45, you know how I'm doing right now? I'm about to shoot myself.

whstlblwr's picture

I think margin call usually go 5 days. Try to dollar cost average.

nope-1004's picture

 

So I bought double long etf silver at 45, you know how I'm doing right now? I'm about to shoot myself.

Please do.  Your trolling adds nothing to the board, and the fact that you bought paper at $45 (when was it last at $45, in April???) and held 'till now means you're an idiot.

So I bought a boatload of physical all the way up to $45 and still have it, not like you.  That means that the best thing for you to do is go shoot yourself.  One less inbred bankster would do the world some good.

 

TzaristBondHolder's picture

Tyler, have a better one for today.......called the magic $31.

 

Here is the fresh Bloomberg article today:  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-23/morgan-stanley-gains-most-among-banks-as-france-concern-wanes.html

 

Deja vu. I had to re-read the article several times as something sounded rather familiar. Then my brain spit out something priceless......it was the price target of $31. Where did we hear it before? 

Here: "Morgan Stanley recommended investors buy Lehman Brothers LEH.N shares, setting a price target of $31" http://reut.rs/lDNMvr 

We all know what happened after. $2bln total exposure? How sure is MS this time around?

Great time to add to the shorts. Desperate "Risk On" Brigade Gets A Morgan Stanley Reinforcement.... I thought I'd share a Dow Rosecast Bradley chart predicting the market directions:http://inkom.com.au/sites/defa... 

Magical $31.....

Cognitive Dissonance's picture

(Rumored) Hope Springs Eternal.

TzaristBondHolder's picture

Tyler, have a better one for today.......called the magic $31.

 

Here is the fresh Bloomberg article today:  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-23/morgan-stanley-gains-most-among-banks-as-france-concern-wanes.html

 

Deja vu. I had to re-read the article several times as something sounded rather familiar. Then my brain spit out something priceless......it was the price target of $31. Where did we hear it before? 

Here: "Morgan Stanley recommended investors buy Lehman Brothers LEH.N shares, setting a price target of $31" http://reut.rs/lDNMvr 

We all know what happened after. $2bln total exposure? How sure is MS this time around?

Great time to add to the shorts. Desperate "Risk On" Brigade Gets A Morgan Stanley Reinforcement.... I thought I'd share a Dow Rosecast Bradley chart predicting the market directions:http://inkom.com.au/sites/defa... 

Magical $31.....

TzaristBondHolder's picture

Tyler, have a better one for today.......called the magic $31.

 

Here is the fresh Bloomberg article today:  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-23/morgan-stanley-gains-most-among-banks-as-france-concern-wanes.html

 

Deja vu. I had to re-read the article several times as something sounded rather familiar. Then my brain spit out something priceless......it was the price target of $31. Where did we hear it before? 

Here: "Morgan Stanley recommended investors buy Lehman Brothers LEH.N shares, setting a price target of $31" http://reut.rs/lDNMvr 

We all know what happened after. $2bln total exposure? How sure is MS this time around?

Great time to add to the shorts. Desperate "Risk On" Brigade Gets A Morgan Stanley Reinforcement.... I thought I'd share a Dow Rosecast Bradley chart predicting the market directions:http://inkom.com.au/sites/defa... 

Magical $31.....

TzaristBondHolder's picture

Tyler, have a better one for today.......called the magic $31.

 

Here is the fresh Bloomberg article today:  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-23/morgan-stanley-gains-most-among-banks-as-france-concern-wanes.html

 

Deja vu. I had to re-read the article several times as something sounded rather familiar. Then my brain spit out something priceless......it was the price target of $31. Where did we hear it before? 

Here: "Morgan Stanley recommended investors buy Lehman Brothers LEH.N shares, setting a price target of $31" http://reut.rs/lDNMvr 

We all know what happened after. $2bln total exposure? How sure is MS this time around?

Great time to add to the shorts. Desperate "Risk On" Brigade Gets A Morgan Stanley Reinforcement.... I thought I'd share a Dow Rosecast Bradley chart predicting the market directions:http://inkom.com.au/sites/defa... 

Magical $31.....

TzaristBondHolder's picture

Tyler, have a better one for today.......called the magic $31.

 

Here is the fresh Bloomberg article today:  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-23/morgan-stanley-gains-most-among-banks-as-france-concern-wanes.html

 

Deja vu. I had to re-read the article several times as something sounded rather familiar. Then my brain spit out something priceless......it was the price target of $31. Where did we hear it before? 

Here: "Morgan Stanley recommended investors buy Lehman Brothers LEH.N shares, setting a price target of $31" http://reut.rs/lDNMvr 

We all know what happened after. $2bln total exposure? How sure is MS this time around?

Great time to add to the shorts. Desperate "Risk On" Brigade Gets A Morgan Stanley Reinforcement.... I thought I'd share a Dow Rosecast Bradley chart predicting the market directions:http://inkom.com.au/sites/defa... 

Magical $31.....

TzaristBondHolder's picture

Tyler, have a better one for today.......called the magic $31.

 

Here is the fresh Bloomberg article today:  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-23/morgan-stanley-gains-most-among-banks-as-france-concern-wanes.html

 

Deja vu. I had to re-read the article several times as something sounded rather familiar. Then my brain spit out something priceless......it was the price target of $31. Where did we hear it before? 

Here: "Morgan Stanley recommended investors buy Lehman Brothers LEH.N shares, setting a price target of $31" http://reut.rs/lDNMvr 

We all know what happened after. $2bln total exposure? How sure is MS this time around?

Great time to add to the shorts. Desperate "Risk On" Brigade Gets A Morgan Stanley Reinforcement.... I thought I'd share a Dow Rosecast Bradley chart predicting the market directions:http://inkom.com.au/sites/defa... 

Magical $31.....

TzaristBondHolder's picture

Tyler, have a better one for today.......called the magic $31.

 

Here is the fresh Bloomberg article today:  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-23/morgan-stanley-gains-most-among-banks-as-france-concern-wanes.html

 

Deja vu. I had to re-read the article several times as something sounded rather familiar. Then my brain spit out something priceless......it was the price target of $31. Where did we hear it before? 

Here: "Morgan Stanley recommended investors buy Lehman Brothers LEH.N shares, setting a price target of $31" http://reut.rs/lDNMvr 

We all know what happened after. $2bln total exposure? How sure is MS this time around?

Great time to add to the shorts. Desperate "Risk On" Brigade Gets A Morgan Stanley Reinforcement.... I thought I'd share a Dow Rosecast Bradley chart predicting the market directions:http://inkom.com.au/sites/defa... 

Magical $31.....

TzaristBondHolder's picture

Tyler, have a better one for today.......called the magic $31.

 

Here is the fresh Bloomberg article today:  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-23/morgan-stanley-gains-most-among-banks-as-france-concern-wanes.html

 

Deja vu. I had to re-read the article several times as something sounded rather familiar. Then my brain spit out something priceless......it was the price target of $31. Where did we hear it before? 

Here: "Morgan Stanley recommended investors buy Lehman Brothers LEH.N shares, setting a price target of $31" http://reut.rs/lDNMvr 

We all know what happened after. $2bln total exposure? How sure is MS this time around?

Great time to add to the shorts. Desperate "Risk On" Brigade Gets A Morgan Stanley Reinforcement.... I thought I'd share a Dow Rosecast Bradley chart predicting the market directions:http://inkom.com.au/sites/defa... 

Magical $31.....

Tsar Pointless's picture

Hence, my screen name.

It's all pointless.

TzaristBondHolder's picture

Tyler, have a better one for today.......called the magic $31.

 

Here is the fresh Bloomberg article today:  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-23/morgan-stanley-gains-most-among-banks-as-france-concern-wanes.html

 

Deja vu. I had to re-read the article several times as something sounded rather familiar. Then my brain spit out something priceless......it was the price target of $31. Where did we hear it before? 

Here: "Morgan Stanley recommended investors buy Lehman Brothers LEH.N shares, setting a price target of $31" http://reut.rs/lDNMvr 

Magical $31.....

TzaristBondHolder's picture

Tyler, have a better one for today.......called the magic $31.

 

Here is the fresh Bloomberg article today:  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-23/morgan-stanley-gains-most-among-banks-as-france-concern-wanes.html

 

Deja vu. I had to re-read the article several times as something sounded rather familiar. Then my brain spit out something priceless......it was the price target of $31. Where did we hear it before? 

Here: "Morgan Stanley recommended investors buy Lehman Brothers LEH.N shares, setting a price target of $31" http://reut.rs/lDNMvr 

Magical $31.....

navy62802's picture

JFCWTF - Please stop the repeat postings. This is ridiculous.

Tsar Pointless's picture

Hence, my screen name.

It's all pointless.

TzaristBondHolder's picture

Tyler, have a better one for today.......called the magic $31.

 

Here is the fresh Bloomberg article today:  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-23/morgan-stanley-gains-most-among-banks-as-france-concern-wanes.html

 

Deja vu. I had to re-read the article several times as something sounded rather familiar. Then my brain spit out something priceless......it was the price target of $31. Where did we hear it before? 

Here: "Morgan Stanley recommended investors buy Lehman Brothers LEH.N shares, setting a price target of $31" http://reut.rs/lDNMvr 

Magical $31.....

Tsar Pointless's picture

Hence, my screen name.

It's all pointless.

Caviar Emptor's picture

If a bullish rumor turns out to be false and causes you to lose money after being presented as investment "advice" on CNBS then it was just Optimism, a sunny outlook on life, and "betting on America!"

A negative rumor that turns out to be false was "rumor mongering" of the most vicious and un-patriotic type. In fact it was witchcraft, let's be honest. And through in a conspiracy theory too

tekhneek's picture

Jesus Christ Tzarist Bond Holder -- Do all of us a favor and turn off your computer.

SilverRhino's picture

High Frequency Trading Mouse buttons suck.

SilverRhino's picture

High Frequency Trading Mouse buttons suck.

SilverRhino's picture

High Frequency Trading Mouse buttons suck.

TzaristBondHolder's picture

sorry guys, unsure what happend...posted 1 time, got a message ZEROHEDGE overloaded, now I look like a spammer......

 

sorry, how do I delete the extra dozen of same posts?

Bill D. Cat's picture

I'll tell you ......it'll cost you tho .

fyrebird's picture

Never repost when the server is overloaded. It accepts everything, hungry lil bastard.

Now go back, edit those posts you dupped, and replace the contents with a "dup my bad"

No charge.

TzaristBondHolder's picture

turning off to prevent crap....sorry again

bill1102inf's picture

Look how fast gold and silver fall when no one is WILLING AND ABLE to buy it at a higher price.

Dick Darlington's picture

ESM should have capital in it from the start from each member state. Not like EFSF which is nothing but big bag of hot air, a headline for the momo algos. That's the original plan for it. Of course Germany and others started to water down the time frame in which the capital was supposed to be in place. The problem is that NONE of the member states have the required capital, hence the watering down. ESM is just hot air like it's predecessor EFSF. A big headline with pundits screaming "we want bigger". It's a promise to take on massive amounts of new debt to pay for the old debt which cannot be even serviced anymore not to mention pay back. It doesn't solve a single problem but makes the old problems worse. It's a failure already even when it's not up and running. That's the most important thing to know. It's too funny that noone EVER mentions what's gonna happen when Germany has it's next depression. When it needs it's resources for itself. There's nothing to give to any insolvent PIIGSF country or to any foreign bank. Folks, euro is done.

Spastica Rex's picture

Reality is for pussies. Buy and be saved.

Peter K's picture

Words. Just words.

BTW Speaking of WORDS, i bring you the one, the only, the greatest....... eveh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwwplStgzp4

And I dedicate this to the shorts who are riding this gab fest......:)

Robslob's picture

 

 

When I see gold and silver fall like today I know the end is near...just not for physical gold & silver owners like everyone wants to think today (Owner is defined by physical in one's own possession)

Peter K's picture

Words. Just words.

BTW Speaking of WORDS, i bring you the one, the only, the greatest....... eveh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwwplStgzp4

And I dedicate this to the shorts who are riding this gab fest......:)

spanish inquisition's picture

I already sold the rumor of a rumor that you haven't even bought yet.

bigdumbnugly's picture

well then rumor has it that it's safe to buy that rumor as the rumored selling is over.

Piranhanoia's picture

It is the Pleiades bailout rumor all over again.  Untraceable and no number to call for a confirmation. He got if from a guy in Alpha Centauri so it has to be lightyears closer to the truth, right?   This is going to be better than thinking Microsoft is going to send you money to give away all your friends email addresses to spamcentral. Soon the various religions are going to get involved by going all in on one of their favorites coming back and leading a crusade against everyone bad-o.

When did "question" and "conspiracy theory" get newspeaked?  damn scientific method. compared to what?

 

 

bid the soldiers shoot's picture

Why buy the rumor of the rumor, when you can start the rumor on ZH?

FIFO

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Hey, rumors are baby ponzi schemes, aren't they?

navy62802's picture

Yesterday, I posted on a couple of ZH stories that traders today are reduced to simply reading the minds of central bankers. And this piece is just another example of that. Investments in today's market are not based on the merits of a company. Instead, they are based on the supposition that central bank "X" will take action "A" and it will have result "C." The markets are broken because of central bank involvement ... i.e. we do not have free markets. Trading on rumors is bad enough ... trading on the rumor of a rumor is even worse. Anyone who has any sense will keep well enough away from stocks and shift their investments more towards commodities until the storm has passed.

NEOSERF's picture

People really have to start realizing that dumping money from banks to ECB, ECB to banks, sovereigns to EFSF, EFSF to sovereigns doesn't matter.  The loaners of this money A. will never get that money back and B. either had to print (inflate) to get it, tax their people or cut costs so dramatically that both of the latter create the death spiral you see in Greece.  YOU DO NOT COME OUT OF THIS STRONGER...all you do is delay the inevitable while piling more gas on the fire.  LET CAPITALISM WORK!

max2205's picture

People really have to start realizing that dumping money from banks to ECB, ECB to banks, sovereigns to EFSF, EFSF to sovereigns doesn't matter."""""

A 2,000 point Dow short squeeze might convince you, if the ECB prints

SeventhCereal's picture

This was the silly putty bounce.  The sells are breathakingly strong and the little bounces are just an opportunity to short at higher prices thanks to uptick rule.