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Charting The WTF Economy

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America's WTF (certainly not to be confused with Winning The Future) economy summarized in one easy chart.

Conclusion: go long the WTF economy by shorting BAC which is a proud sponsor (courtesy of not having received one cash payment for hundreds of billions in inversely overwater mortgages) of the WTF spread.

h/t John Lohman

 

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Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:56 | 1555119 fyrebird
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I had to read that one a few times before I could fully unwind it.

Somebody, get that guy a job writing FOMC statements.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:03 | 1555127 Cognitive Dissonance
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I should use the chart as my new Avatar. Nothing better that that to illustrate Cognitive Dissonance.

The Mary Poppins Chart

Just a spoon full of QE makes the medicine go down in a most delightful way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrnoR9cBP3o

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:40 | 1555278 Dr. Richard Head
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Superbenniprintthemfastandloadyourselfsometoner.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:44 | 1555293 Shitters_Full
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One hand cupping Lloyd's ballsack, the other Jamie's boner.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:51 | 1555311 Dr. Richard Head
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If you have some bad assets the Fed will gladly load them

Superbenniprintthemfastandloadyourselfsometoner!!!!!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:54 | 1555332 Shitters_Full
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Um diddle diddle, the world's gonna die! Um diddle diddle the world's gonna die!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 17:52 | 1555732 Diplodicus Rex
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Its Friday night and after a couple of glasses that made me chuckle....a lot. Thanks.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:45 | 1555052 vast-dom
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sheer insanity

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:54 | 1555106 jus_lite_reading
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>>"Speaking of confidence, Retail Sales, which we speculated last month will go higher this month based on M1 money supply of a whopping 12% YoY, went higher. But not by much - just 0.5% (with +/- 0.5%) on expectations of 0.3%, and that includes gasoline sales which were up 23.6%! Isn't it ironic that Wall Street's finest can't even get this number right, based on M1 money supply? Do they even know how to add and subtract basic math?


Further, as we explained last month, sales in price is not sales in units. So, once again, retail sales signal 
nothing good about the economy other than that we have inflationary pressures mounting. It doesn't take a poison Ivy League degree to read through the smoke. But the markets will rally on this and ignore the consumer confidence disaster - only to collapse shortly."<<

 

http://fiatsfire.blogspot.com/2011/08/free-fall-fryday-texas-university.html

 

They prettymuch NAIL THAT!!!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:17 | 1555417 Citxmech
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The sure evidence will be the continuing lack of diversity in sales across the consumer market as diminishing "discretionary" spending is shifted more and more to "essentials."

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:35 | 1555483 Kali
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It's already here, wasn't WallyWorld just complaining that people are only buying food and essentials and none of their cheap Chinese crap anymore?

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:45 | 1555053 Alienated Serf
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must buy iPad to distact me from my lack of consumer confidence

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:47 | 1555537 StormShadow
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iPads taste like s**t...but with a lil Frank's hot sauce, DEE-LISHUS!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:51 | 1555551 Alienated Serf
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As long as you don't mean Barney Frank's hot sauce... ey  oh

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:46 | 1555055 Missiondweller
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Channel stuffing?

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:06 | 1555159 Id fight Gandhi
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Stuff just costs more

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:46 | 1555057 Angel Face
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Are those retail sales adjusted for inflation?

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:52 | 1555095 RobD
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I don't think so but even if they are the inflation calculations are garbage too so garbage adjusted by garbage = ...garbage.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:46 | 1555058 caerus
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now that's a chart...

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:48 | 1555065 Ancona
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That chart would make a great tee shirt

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:10 | 1555174 caerus
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i sir...would buy that tee shirt...

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:55 | 1555334 Dr. Richard Head
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I am buying one of these on a t-shirt instead - www.familyrotten.com

The consumer will buy to kill the pain and then drink down the default.  Weeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:21 | 1555432 caerus
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come, come now...surely it is not entirely de-fault of the consumer?

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:36 | 1555488 Dr. Richard Head
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I agree the initial poor investment choices were not of the consumer.  That would be blaming the victim of rape.  Sooner or later though, the consumer can no longer be given a free pass while banking at JPM of BofA, continually racking up the credit card, and buying Apple products.  Most of us here have pulled away from this system after we saw the system for what it is.  Many have also been warned, yet the consumer keeps going back for another donkey punch.

Disney Store sales numbers are literally going through the roof in my area.  Makes no fucking sense to me.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:54 | 1555571 caerus
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lol..."donkey punch"

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:47 | 1555067 LookingWithAmazement
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So it's going well in the US. Dow 100 pt up, recession and all of those much predicted "collapses" and 'crashes" are over.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:47 | 1555068 darteaus
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Retail sales are being boosted by the squaters living in REO properties.  They have minimum wage jobs or government benefits with no visible job upside hence the lack of confidence.

Prognosis:  Not good.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:00 | 1555140 Seer
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High-end retailers thrive despite US weakness

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/194a83f8-c370-11e0-b163-00144feabdc0.html

 

Perhaps it's time for you to pull off your blinders...

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:19 | 1555207 d00daa
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yes, already wealthy people who benefitted from goosed equities via free bernank $$$ are still buying coh and tif.  wtf is your point exactly?

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:44 | 1555296 csmith
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Bingo...skip the mortgage payment and party like its 1999. When the survey guy calls, just say: "Yea, we know we're F*$&ed."

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:23 | 1555439 OpenEyes
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Some squaters yes.  And some under-water McMansions not paying mortgage anymore.

But, whether retail sales have increased .3 or.4% isn't nearly as important as the fact that they haven't DECLINED (even with the above mentioned squaters and no-pay mortgages).  To me, this is indicative of the fact that the American people are not much different than their government - spending money they don't have, living beyond their means.  That shopping habit, and those smart phone, ipad, latest gadget, new car addictions are like crack!  Hard to give up once you have them.

I would take this chart as particularly bad news for banks and credit card issuers... I smell a new wave of defaults and bankruptcies coming by year's end.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:48 | 1555073 fifteenfifty
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I suppose food and ammo count as retail sales.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:01 | 1555144 Helmholtz Watson
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I suppose food and ammo count as retail sales.

don't forget gold.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:10 | 1555173 citta vritti
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why the ZHers claiming to have bought PMs alone are enough to account for a big chunk of that rise.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:24 | 1555232 Hi Ho Silver
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don't forget gold.

or all the dollars spent outfitting for human habitation the recently purchased small farm.

 

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:36 | 1555489 slewie the pi-rat
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here is the weekly round-up from goldSeek's chris mullen.  he draws the line @ 4pm easterm, so the PM prices may not agree w/ some of the other feeds from later. 

the $53 Bil on the June trade bal shld have a minus sign in front of it (-). 

rest up, Bichez, & take care of the cranial tissues!

Gold Seeker Weekly Wrap-Up: Gold and Silver Gain About 5% and 2% on the Week

 

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:48 | 1555074 Eireann go Brach
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I am sure O'robyomama signed off on this bullshit report before packing his bags for a 10 day vacation in Martha's Vinyard, that will no doubt eat up $100's of thousands in taxpayer money!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:51 | 1555555 StormShadow
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Hundreds of thousands?  Seriously?  Try millions.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:49 | 1555077 mr_sandman
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Retail sales are in dollars.  Consumer confidence is in votes.

 

That's why there's a discrepancy.  As long as the rich are confident, the retail sales won't affect population-based polls.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:49 | 1555078 Newsboy
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This means run up the credit card, for tomorrow we lose our jobs.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:08 | 1555166 Id fight Gandhi
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We can all rest assured that some where the elite rich are profiting just fine.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:33 | 1555255 SheepDog-One
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Right, and in this USAA+ economic model, all that matters is a few elite are kept well stuffed with lobster thermadore and new Ferraris....everyone else can go suck it.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:54 | 1555569 StormShadow
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Try driving that Ferrari once it HTF...will give new meaning to beat down

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 22:01 | 1556219 ZippyDooDah
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Ferrari target practice, bitchez!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:49 | 1555079 Vandelay
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My retail purchases would be up also, if I stopped paying my mortgage.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:14 | 1555189 Bam_Man
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You would have more money to spend, but knowing that you may be kicked out of your house at any moment is not a confidence booster.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:01 | 1555362 -Michelle-
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"At any moment" is quite a stretch.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:49 | 1555080 the not so migh...
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inflation spread

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:51 | 1555085 Oh regional Indian
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Holy cow. that makes no sense at all. none. Such a mirage, this whole engineered game.

to funny.

ORI

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:59 | 1555354 Goldilocks
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Reclaim your dominion, ya’ll. ;-)
“Because this system has stolen the wealth of the whole world.”

Santos Bonacci - Roman Ecclesiastical Law & Sovereignty
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/08/RIR-110811.php

Watch (5 parts, approx 15mins each)…
 
The Law- 1 Sovereigns_ time to stand up! Reclaim your rights – YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PNkvWvv-Dew

The Law 2 Sovereigns_ time to stand up! Reclaim your rights – YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ5F9YUTLRw&feature=related

The Law 3 Sovereigns_ time to stand up! Reclaim your rights – YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6_bR-Uy6Eg&feature=related

The Law 4 Sovereigns_ time to stand up! Reclaim your rights – YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emC3dvypHvU&feature=related

The Law 5 Sovereigns_ time to stand up! Reclaim your rights – YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1Hhetuc-Bs&feature=related

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:11 | 1555396 SheepDog-One
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Thanks!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:19 | 1555418 Goldilocks
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;-)

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:37 | 1555492 JW n FL
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

so far.. I did not get far into the 1st video.. but the couple of minutes I did watch looked very promising! so I say Thanks NOW! and Later!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 18:20 | 1555794 Jendrzejczyk
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Just be careful researching this.

Got into a bit of a row with one of my government "spy" contractor friends two nights ago on this very subject (recall screaming "I WILL NOT OBEY" as he squealed tires and drove away). HT/ Chumba

All my localized google ads flipped to Bolling Airforce Base and Langley, VA for a while. My friend assured me that as long as you don't keep going back to those sights multiple times, you won't become a serious target of interest.

He was totally baffled as to why I resented any government intrusion into my browsing habits.

 

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 11:03 | 1557011 tip e. canoe
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"All my localized google ads flipped to Bolling Airforce Base and Langley, VA for a while."

very interesting...thanks for the tip

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 18:58 | 1555881 Abitdodgie
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Hay Goldilocks have you become a Soverign I did no more taxes , actually owning your own property free and clear , but the best bit is the way the police treat you with this new found respect because you dont live in thier fantasy land anymore .

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:51 | 1555087 GenX Investor
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Plan coming together for algobot takeover. They now have consciousness, and we are all slaves to their free commerce purchasing devices (aka the US Dollar).

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:15 | 1555411 SheepDog-One
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I heard on nites and weekends the Algobots are building T-1 terminators.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:25 | 1555444 JW n FL
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoVlcWvxffc&feature=feedf

Uploaded by bstill3 on Aug 12, 2011

Unveiling a new 6-Step pathway to free ourselves from the shackles of the national debt system.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:51 | 1555089 Segestan
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Hope and some small change?

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:00 | 1555097 Dick Darlington
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Is that real retail sales? If not then Chairsatan's "non-inflatory" policies might explain the huge difference. Not to mention Tiny Tim's strong dollar policy. Yes we can!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:53 | 1555100 Paul Bogdanich
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definitely a problem in the data but some portion of the effect is that people see the currency depreciating and buy certain foreign things now (wine, clothing, foodstuffs) before the prices go up.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:54 | 1555108 etrader
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D.E Shaw would be drooling at the potential of a  spread closer trade on that chart .

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:54 | 1555110 CalibratedConfidence
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Selling"hope" short and going long on "reality"

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:55 | 1555111 Mercury
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Ahhhhhh Consumer Confidence is a BS stat anyway.  I think a lot of people simply treat any and all questions like this as an excuse to vote up/down on whatever their pet bellyache of the moment is.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:08 | 1555155 dwdollar
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If that's the case...  It wasn't BS until recently as it correlated well with retail sales.

I'm going to go with something is very wrong with these numbers or in the economy.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:32 | 1555253 SheepDog-One
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Well if they want to live by the sword, they have to deal with it cutting both ways.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:55 | 1555114 Mutatto
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What are the symbols on these ETF's?  Bueller? Anyone?

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:55 | 1555116 Nate H
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consumer spending is 70% of GDP

IN THEORY, if 99% of the people were broke and bought ramen noodles and netflix only but 1% lived high of the hog and bought jets and vacations to Hawaii, its possible that standard economic indicators would show 'growth' even while most people were contracting.  In other words, GDP (and retail sales) are an aggregate indicator - I wonder what retail sales look like for bottom half of distribution in USA - not like the blue line above I assure you...

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:00 | 1555139 Sandy15
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Blue line represents more inflation type buying going on.  People are buying food, gas, etc and less extras.  But retail sales go up due to inflation pricing.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:11 | 1555176 Id fight Gandhi
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How about an inflation adjusted retail sales report?

Yes everything from food, energy, health care, clothing, haircuts, having the roof fixed etc, all got price hikes. Stuff you can't go on without.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:02 | 1555147 Seer
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High-end retailers thrive despite US weakness

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/194a83f8-c370-11e0-b163-00144feabdc0.html

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 19:06 | 1555894 Moe Howard
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Wal mart by me is empty most of time, not that long ago it was full all the time.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 07:47 | 1556876 Bob
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I was at Lowes yesterday and it was virtually deserted . . . on Friday, mid-morning, when it's usually jammed with people preparing for those weekend projects.  I've never seen that before. 

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 03:46 | 1556648 alexwest
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PRETTY FUCKING GOOD QUESTION..
#
are an aggregate indicator - I wonder what retail sales look like for bottom half of distribution in USA - not like the blue line above I assure you...
##

luckuly we have an answer.. old good WALL-MART..
who is shopping where ? bottom of 50 %population..

i dont remember exact numbers, but same store sales in USA are falling down for a few years in row..

AND THATS IN NOMINAL $$$.. adjust by 3-5% inflation.+ "growth" in popualtion AKA number of people on food stamps
, so physical quantity is probably down 10-15 %from peak..

dont forget Wall-mart is 10% retail in USA (exlc cars), so its fucking pretty perfect proxy for retail sales..
( much better than bulslhit retail sales from truth ministry like BLS/BEA/NBER/etc)

hope it helps
alx

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:56 | 1555121 Seasmoke
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time to buy more Polo shirts made by Ralph Lifshitz

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:12 | 1555183 Id fight Gandhi
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Is somene hiding their Jewish heritage to sell over priced sweat shop made clothing?

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 20:34 | 1556037 trav7777
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uh oh, someone just pulled a Helen Thomas

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:57 | 1555123 shushup
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OMG! the World is coming to and end! BUY BUY BUY!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 23:00 | 1556316 disabledvet
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Actually there's a lot to that. ZH is one of history's great cntrary indicators. Just watch out for the occassional T Rex....and remember "it ain't no luck...i learned to duck" and you'll be fine.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:57 | 1555124 Silver Dreamer
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That chart makes perfect sense to me actually.  People are preparing for the collapse and possibly worse.  Fortuna favet paratus!  Spending your money while it is still worth something too is a good idea.  Online PM purchases would be included in those sales, right?  Ammunition and other supplies would be too as someone else already pointed out above.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:57 | 1555125 dwdollar
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I keep looking at this chart in amazement.  I am speechless.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:59 | 1555130 Helmholtz Watson
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This is what happens when a 52" TV holds it's value over time better than treasury notes

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:59 | 1555131 Rynak
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Masochist Nation.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:59 | 1555132 NotApplicable
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Way Too Fabulous?

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:59 | 1555134 Cdad
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Rich criminal syndicate Wall Street bankers buying shiny bobbles, bitchez!  

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:05 | 1555375 jomama
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baubles*, bitchez

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:00 | 1555137 HoofHearted
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Whenever they call asking if I want another credit card (nice to have the 800+ credit score as if that should mean anything at all in this economy) I always tell them "Yes, please. We're about to declare bankruptcy, so we would love another one of those credit cards. Please give me a high credit limit." For some reason I always here, "Click, bzzzzz..." on the other end.

Seriously, though, we have been stocking up on canned goods, beans, rice, long-dated fruit juices, etc. We'll use all that stuff and the price will be higher on all of it in just a few days.

I wonder if large PM purchases, Berkey equipment, gasoline stores, and ammo could change the consumer spending by that much. Always buy the silver on a JP Morgan credit card that has a "no interest for 15 months" clause on it.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 09:45 | 1556942 DosZap
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<Always buy the silver on a JP Morgan credit card that has a "no interest for 15 months" clause on it. >

 

They STOPPED this program......................Smart lil ckskrs.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:00 | 1555138 2DollarBill
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That chart is showing that people have to use their savings to pay for everyday essentials.

-or-

They have lost confidence in the dollar, and are spending it as soon as they get it. 

-or-

Both.... Spending Under Duress

 

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:00 | 1555142 Caveman93
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Holy gaping hole Batman! WTF!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:00 | 1555143 PhattyBuoy
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US GDP% = Mortgage Jubilee / BAC

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:15 | 1555197 Silver Dreamer
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That's another source of this.  When you're not paying your mortgage, you're still going to spend, spend, and spend some more.  The cash has to go somewhere.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:02 | 1555146 anynonmous
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when you're down to your last 10 grand - it truly is a WTF situation as in WTF I need another flat panel and a new iPhone

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:03 | 1555150 citrine
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Tyler,

I am glad that my assessment of the economy matches yours verbatim.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:08 | 1555158 buzzsaw99
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Never bet against the usa consumer. That is an decades old axiom. This isn't the first recession we've ever had. Throw in easy credit cards, free houses, funemployment, social security. This shouldn't come as a surprise the trade deficit numbers were posted here yesterday.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:39 | 1555270 SheepDog-One
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Recession? This is a planned implosion.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:20 | 1555425 buzzsaw99
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People are smart.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 10:42 | 1556992 DosZap
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buzzsaw@16:20,

"People are smart."

When folks see their being gamed, they game the system.

That's where we are today, if the 99er's bennies had run out in the normal time frames, we would have a totally new Gov't in D.C.......the last election would have been a major house cleaning.

The only reason the bennies have been extended to these folks is not out of compassion,it is to keep them under control, and converting them to a WHY work mindset as long as I can GET BY.

This kills the entreprenuerial spirit,and kills the spirit.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:07 | 1555164 CalibratedConfidence
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I just went through and replotted the data.  When you don't use a secondary axis for Consumer Confidence it becomes less skewed looking.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:10 | 1555172 anynonmous
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don't forget the SNAP effect - i wonder if that chart correlates

http://dailybail.com/storage/chart-food-stamps-2.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHE...

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:11 | 1555179 inkarri9
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Inflation?

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:18 | 1555206 Youri Carma
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INFLATION
- Food More expensive
- Oil More expensive
- Dollar and Euro value down making everything more expensive

DEFLATION
- Houseprices decline
- Salaries decline
- Money supply sucked dry by the shadow banking system/ Deleveraging

I say STAGFLATION http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagflation – In economics, stagflation is a situation in which the inflation rate is high and the economic growth rate is low. It raises a dilemma for economic policy since actions designed to lower inflation may worsen economic growth and vice versa.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:06 | 1555382 Citxmech
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"Biflation" bitchez!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 19:24 | 1555915 slewie the pi-rat
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since fuk_u went full 4-banger, i've been in radioactive stag/biflation, which = BiChflation

soon, we shall all be in a radioactive recession = isotopal downer

BiCheZ

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 10:00 | 1556949 TruthInSunshine
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INFLATION - Food More expensive - Oil More expensive - Dollar and Euro value down making everything more expensive DEFLATION - Houseprices decline - Salaries decline - Money supply sucked dry by the shadow banking system/ Deleveraging I say STAGFLATION http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagflation – In economics, stagflation is a situation in which the inflation rate is high and the economic growth rate is low. It raises a dilemma for economic policy since actions designed to lower inflation may worsen economic growth and vice versa.

 

Inflation - Things needed to live on a day-today basis (food, energy, etc.).

Deflation - Things already owned and things for which loans/credit are needed to purchase, and also on things that are more discretionary (electronics as one example).

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:11 | 1555180 buzzsaw99
Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:28 | 1555455 JW n FL
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That is HIGH QUALITY! UN-CUT!! stuff you are passing around to "We the People"! You may want to cut it! someone may overdose!

The first line is Free Ya'll!!

Thank Buzzy! You Rock! as Always!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 20:03 | 1555982 au_bayitch
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Thanks for posting the link. Great info!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:14 | 1555191 Stuck on Zero
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Duh.  The retail sales figure is weighted toward the high-end buyers: big screen TVs, yachts, private jets, etc. and the consumer sentiment cuts across incomes.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:25 | 1555204 Muddy1
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It's been quite a week.  I think I'll go back to the ZH home page, click on the ad near the top right, and schedule a weekend getaway.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:18 | 1555205 jimmayjvf
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Those also aren't same store sales.  They are adding sales from new stores in.  That plus inflation = total BS numbers

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:37 | 1555491 Drag Racer
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alls not to worry, confidence will be revised nest week.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:20 | 1555213 Gringo Viejo
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Seems America is indeed, cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:21 | 1555218 Jim in MN
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I gots one fer y'all: Disposable personal income per capita. From Doug Short's site.  Still not at pre-crisis levels.

In your mind you can chart the difference between actual disposable income per capita, and what it could have been without the treasonous bailouts and horrific Japanification policies of our Dear Leaders.

THAT would look a lot like the consumer confidence chart. As in, cratering.

http://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/charts/indicators/DPI-overview...

 

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:29 | 1555247 SheepDog-One
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Trying to find where it was I read this morning that 65% of americans right now could not put their hands on $1,000 for some unseen emergency or expense....

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:39 | 1555269 JuicedGamma
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Some news program broadcast it last night also.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:55 | 1555339 TruthInSunshine
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by SheepDog-One
on Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:29
#1555247

 

Trying to find where it was I read this morning that 65% of americans right now could not put their hands on $1,000 for some unseen emergency or expense....

 

64% of Americans Can’t Handle a $1,000 Emergency Expense

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:22 | 1555431 SheepDog-One
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AH thanks a lot Truth!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:23 | 1555440 TruthInSunshine
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+

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:07 | 1555384 fyrebird
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That's really dangerous if true.

The US electorate is lied to and disconnected. People won't pitch a fuss anymore over things like political posturing and feckless leadership. It's now accepted as BAU. They hate it but can't change it. So long as they can feed themselves they will accept being powerless and marginalized so long as the corrupt State supports them in their infantile need.

But if they run out of money for food and energy -- even for a little while -- they will likely go apeshit and very quickly.

One really bad quarter of high unemployment and budget austerity could mean that the 65% that couldn't raise $1000, suddenly can't raise $1.

And that's when it really becomes iinteresting, and there are troops in the streets.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:42 | 1555517 Kali
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Yup.  I was reading an article yesterday about people who are trying to survive on SNAP only, no other income.  Also, search, "East St. Louis".   I know people always cringe about Detroit, but ESL, I think, is way worse.  I would bet that they are the first to explode like London.  They were calling for the Feds to go in to fight crime there, the police are overwhelmed. ESL has been bad for DECADES, not just this last "soft patch".

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 20:36 | 1556040 trav7777
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good luck with that gold bubble if that's the case

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:21 | 1555221 caerus
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consume damn you! consume!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:27 | 1555240 chinaboy
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Winning the future is mostly about ES and stuff. As far as the real economy, no much can be said.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:27 | 1555242 SheepDog-One
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Could also be people are spending, but not on frivolous junk. Maybe theyre out maxing credit cards on food, ammo, and guns!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:30 | 1555248 TruthInSunshine
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Ben Bernank's Bullion, Bullets & Beans effect, bitchez.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:57 | 1555344 Paul Bogdanich
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Guns and ammo qualify as frivolous junk.  I went to a gun show recently and priced a pistol I bought in 1977 (Colt Python 6 inch barrel blue) and it was seling lightly used in 2011 for what I paid in 1977.  Not a good investment.  Also if you know anything about guns that is a very good revolver.  Possibly one of the best ever made.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:04 | 1555373 Citxmech
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Nice.  I've always had a hankering for a 4" Python.  Just can't seem to justify spending $1k though.  Settled on a vintage 4" recessed and pinned S&W Highway Patrol for less than half the price instead.  Then spent my savings on a pre-lock ss .357 S&W bodyguard and still had some change for lighter return springs for both.  =]  The old N frame Smith's are Smoooooth. 

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:37 | 1555264 JuicedGamma
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WTF=Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot sticks by me.

I've been playing this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEmJ-VWPDM4 (Turning Japanese) in an endless loop today.

After seeing the current suite of Presidential candidates and the ridiculous rules coming from Washington, I'm convinced that we will have foisted failed politicians and policies for at least the next decade oh and let's not forget the Feds promised ZIRP till forever and ever.

 

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:38 | 1555268 Cheesy Bastard
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WTF FTW.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:42 | 1555272 Hephasteus
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I feel really really terrible.

I knew all along that the consumer was totally lying out of his ass about his confidence.

I feel dreadful for all that wrongly acussing I did of Intel, Apple, Verizon, AT&T, Orange Telecom, etc etc.

I'm dreadfully sorry for calling you big fat stinking making shit up liars. I don't know how I can ever make it up to you. I have wronged you at a level that is beyond forgiveness.

So in closing. Suck rocks you pig fuckers.

PS. blah blah blah broke sales records. Avatar made a 200 billion dollars. Blah blah blah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vgQalXaIxs

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:40 | 1555277 lizzy36
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Well, after spending a week in NYC, i can confirm that dopes are still lining up (yes at the 5th ave store there are line ups) with their pre teen daughters @ANF to get their pics taken with hairless males models, and buy $70 t-shirts.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:59 | 1555353 Hephasteus
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Hope you have a nice comment ready for when they come looking for an answer as to why that all went away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxUATkpMQ8A

Pefect encouragement. Perfect discouragement. No other route to equality.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:00 | 1555359 TruthInSunshine
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I wouldn't get too distracted by what you see in New York, which is a tourist destination, and also contains the bail out queens of Wall Street, and I certainly wouldn't use it as empirical example of the health of the consumer on a national basis.

I'm not saying that you are doing this, and based on your past posts, doubt that you intend to do so.

I was talking to a friend in Florida recently, which is being hammered, with many big box retailers ceasing construction of stores they've already spent millions on (site work, infrastructure, engineering - all done) and which has a foreclosure epidemic the banks literally can't keep up with, and he was telling me that DisneyLand was packed, but that there were more Europeans and Canadians there than he's ever seen in his life there (that exchange rate thing certainly doesn't hurt).

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:22 | 1555434 Pants McPants
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Agree w/first part of your post.  I recently re-located to the midwest from DC and the living conditions could not be more different (as you can imagine).  Whereas mega-condos are popping up everywhere in DC folks in the midwest are maxing out the life of their US made shitmobiles - I can't blame midwesterners for maintaining faith in the US.....but listening to people hype the DC "boom" makes me want to rage.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:29 | 1555461 TruthInSunshine
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I hear you loud and clear on that D.C. thing, where government workers really do make 80k to 180k in droves, at jobs that comparable private sector employers would pay about 50% less for (and demand higher qualifications for), and where the bennies would be way less, if the jobs were even available.

I believe there are 4 million federal workers, which does not include all the contractors (probably 18 million) whose jobs depend on direct federal spending, let alone the 27 million who work for state, county and local units of government.

This shit's about to break. I can feel it when I talk to people who have rage in their voice and that 1000 yard glare in their eyes.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 18:12 | 1555775 bob_dabolina
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50% unemployment in D.C ages 16-19. 

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 20:52 | 1556086 trav7777
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DC still majority black.  Have those people ever worked?

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 23:05 | 1556332 disabledvet
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What's your excuse?

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 14:15 | 1557317 snowball777
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"Well, after spending a week in NYC, i can confirm that dopes are still lining up..."

A finite number of drive-by shootings might help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYlfQ-7zUUE

Love ya, Trav and Dabolina.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:41 | 1555280 Dr Hackenbush
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social philosophy looks to be, get all you can - can all you get - and sit on your can

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 15:43 | 1555289 FLIP THAT BOND
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I'm confident in silver :)  Come on QE3 so I can get rich off of silver already!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 16:00 | 1555360 jomama
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PM's aren't really an investment.  they are more like insurance.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 21:30 | 1556170 QMcFarlan
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Aren't comments like these implying that silver is a speculative metal? If your silver goes from $40/oz to $500/oz and it's not speculation - then your dollars are just worth less.

 

In other words, your $500 worth of silver is still going to get you $40 worth of actual goods. I don't get why so many people are praying for the crash so they can "get rich".

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 23:10 | 1556345 disabledvet
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If prices suddenly collapse that also makes your PM's very valuable. That's called "the old fashioned way."

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