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Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:11 | 1535199 TruthInSunshine
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The greatest irony and CNBCfablatastic fade of all of this mess the world is in:

BRICs will fall first, not last.

No rationalization or theories on justice or fairness are needed.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:17 | 1535230 cosmictrainwreck
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led everybody up.....lead everybody down...kinda like small caps in a "normal" market

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:26 | 1535285 Ahmeexnal
Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:32 | 1535315 YC2
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Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:58 | 1535487 Lower Class Elite
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Oh fuck yes.  But dammit, now my neck hurts.  I can't thrash as hard as I used to.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 01:18 | 1535887 BlackholeDivestment
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...after the flood  of illiquidity, Lucifer has risen and the bulls have run their course, Hell awaits ...that's all

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 00:59 | 1535807 Oh regional Indian
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TIS, that is true. The BRIC's were set up to fail, total bubble economies. The SENSEX (Indian Stock Market), is in the vice-grip of FII (Foreign Institutional Investors), hot monies.

Teh Asian sell-off is in full steam as I type. 3-5% drops across the board. For India, soem fear a 20%.

And yet, this is just the beginning. The connected, collective contagion is going to hit, like a ton of BRICS next monday. 

A sea of red, fascinating times.


Mon, 08/08/2011 - 01:19 | 1535892 TruthInSunshine
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ORI  - They hitched their posts to the fraud that was sold as "endless demand" from economies having foundations on the most vast, ultimate Ponzi Scheme in human economic history; fractional reserve banking.

They'd have been better off to accept lower rates of real economic growth, with their economies tied to what was real.

At least they can rebuild from a lower level of dislocation than what will be experienced in the developed world, on a relative basis.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 02:08 | 1536028 StychoKiller
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I view currencies, especially FRNs as being akin to non-winning lottery tickets.  Yeah, a lot of people "thought" they were Million/Billionaires, until the "real" winning numbers were called out (AU & AG!)

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:12 | 1535203 Campagnolo
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this is going to be a panic event!, this is it folks....

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:12 | 1535204 Forgiven
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The Globalist' wet dream has finally come to it's sticky end.  Pun intended.  

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 01:12 | 1535847 Mad Cow
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You're ahead of yourself. This is just the destruction phase of the OWO.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:13 | 1535205 High Plains Drifter
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damn it.  i just went way long on those chinese solar stocks.............

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:14 | 1535216 JW n FL
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I told You! Physical Solar!

NOT! stocks!!

Come one man!!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:25 | 1535279 indygo55
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It's my understanding that they need a lot of SILVER to make those solar panels. HI-OH ,,, SILVER,,, AWAY!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:36 | 1535333 blindman
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@ "physical solar"
riotous huha !!
lmfao ..

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:44 | 1535385 Don Smith
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ROR!  Dat's funny.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:54 | 1535397 FEDbuster
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"Physical Solar" that was the best of the day (maybe the week) here.  LMAO!!  Like calling your commodities broker and telling him "I'll take delivery of those Live Cattle and Lean Hogs, send them to my Montana address."

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 00:11 | 1535562 MayIMommaDogFac...
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You can't eat solar

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 05:51 | 1536208 falak pema
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You eat it every day thanks to food fed on sun.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 06:14 | 1536231 MillionDollarBonus_
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You can't eat solar

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:24 | 1535268 Id fight Gandhi
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Time to get out the nets around the apple factory.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:25 | 1535278 High Plains Drifter
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ok, wait a minute. you know as well as i do, that reggie is the only person around here qualified to discuss the apple situation..........:)

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:37 | 1535337 JW n FL
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Reggie is Long Google Smart Tech because between the Jews at Google and the Jews at Facebook and the new cloud tech connected to Obama's high speed cyber crime connection unit for the poor! LOL

You would have to be black or Jewish or half black to get into the deal! LOL

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:54 | 1535455 jonjon831983
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Solar stocks, one bubble I haven't heard people mention very much.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 00:19 | 1535610 Freddie
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I wonder if James Chanos is still short China?  The web had him doing a presentation on China's bubble at Columbia or NYU.  It was great. Most shorts and hedgies are scum but Chanos is the real deal.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:14 | 1535215 qussl3
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B...But the Chinese miracle will save us all!

How can this be.........

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:21 | 1535254 High Plains Drifter
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what they need in china is more robots and more tall poorly built empty buildings........why is we always think these people are so damn smart? 

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 00:28 | 1535655 Tejano
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Because they are - by comparison.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 08:12 | 1536398 smore
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....why is we always think these people are so damn smart?

Read this and weep, Whiteboy!


Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:15 | 1535222 caerus
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the suspense is killing me...i can't BEAR it...

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:15 | 1535223 Number 156
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It will be interesting to watch how this develops. So may ways this can turn, but all paths lead down.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:16 | 1535228 dwdollar
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One thing is for sure Marvin.  I'm going to have another beer...

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:18 | 1535233 caerus
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hear, hear!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:37 | 1535339 Ahmeexnal
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I doubt Michelob Light qualifies as a beer.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:41 | 1535364 caerus
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it's like beer...

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 00:10 | 1535558 bobafett164
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okay, 3 tequilas!

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 00:36 | 1535704 caerus
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it's probably watered down...

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:29 | 1535302 macholatte
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It will be interesting to watch how this develops. So may ways this can turn, but all paths lead down.

So who are the BIG dogs in the room: USA, EU, China...... where do the Ruskies fit in? Are they immune to all the shit that's flying around?


{C'mon Tyler, if you're going to keep tweaking the chat room at least put the spell checker back. }

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:41 | 1535366 Ahmeexnal
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Putin will sit out this shit flingfest.

When the ruling kleptoelite are crying out for help, he'll just take headshots at 'em with a Dragunov.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:17 | 1535231 AmazingLarry
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I entered the Panda market just a few weeks ago. He's so cute....and golden.

See ya at the bottom....

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:31 | 1535311 kito
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just make sure its not the coin where the bear's "tungsten" is sticking out at you....

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:19 | 1535238 JW n FL
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That's the ball game!

Thanks everyone for coming out!

Please becareful going where ever it is you are going!

God Bless You and Yours!

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 00:04 | 1535504 FEDbuster
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Don't forget that last trip to Sam's Club.  Fifty lbs of rice $19., canned chicken 5 for $10. and honey (lasts forever) nice sized jug $10. 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:19 | 1535240 silvertrain
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wow!!!Im starting to think that maybe we are all tied together, could this be a global ponzi?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:44 | 1535380 Boop
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Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:20 | 1535247 chipshot
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protecting his homeland still able to take out 10 invaders trying to take his homeland? 2bill vs 300mil..should get interesting.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:21 | 1535256 Kimo
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dump commodities... quick!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:26 | 1535282 JW n FL
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I am buying gold and silver! futures and etf's only!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:23 | 1535261 JW n FL
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Is anyone else just a little sad?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:22 | 1535263 Yohimbo
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Even their cheap market falls apart.  Junk!

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 00:26 | 1535638 zorba THE GREEK
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That's what you get for selling lead painted toys.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:23 | 1535266 European American
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Confucius say: Banker who sits in freezer, will have frozen assets.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:25 | 1535276 caerus
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Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:32 | 1535317 silvertrain
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he also say "ponzi scheme work as long as black swan appear"

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 01:26 | 1535918 BlackholeDivestment
Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:56 | 1535486 spdrdr
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I always was of the belief that assets were young, female donkeys........ 

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 03:11 | 1536118 Mec-sick-o
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good 1, lol, now I'm confuced.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:23 | 1535267 GIANTKILR
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I think it is time to close the hatch on my bunker! SEE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE, MY FRIENDS!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:24 | 1535270 I am Jobe
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WMT, YUM are all in panic mode now.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:24 | 1535273 PaperBugsBurn
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Bankster created... bankster ended??  Nope.. Isntreal and China developed the A-bomb together... HSBC (opium trafficking Rothscum & Sassoon bank) accepted in new gold market


we shall see

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:24 | 1535275 CrankItTo11
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Who gets pounded worse... Asia, Europe, or US?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:25 | 1535277 natty
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Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:28 | 1535293 CrankItTo11
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Is there no capcha anymore or WTF is going on? Spam is getting out of control tonight.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:30 | 1535305 dwdollar
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Hey, an algo's got to make a buck.  They're unemployed too.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:47 | 1535402 Bolweevil
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Patrick Willis

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:28 | 1535295 JW n FL
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fuck you! sell your shit some where else!

Made in China Jersey!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:37 | 1535325 macholatte
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C'mon guys. It was funny. All the doom & gloom and nail biting suspense and anger and then we got a commercial.

Thanks Natty.

 But THIS is disgusting.......


Mon, 08/08/2011 - 01:15 | 1535877 Seer
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"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that. So there is zero probability of default" said Greenspan on NBC's Meet the Press

Does this guy even believe what he's saying?  In essence he's saying that no matter how worthless the USD is people will take it as debt payment.  I wonder what he'd say if he was on the other side of this fantasy transaction?

Yeah, the US can print USD to infinity (well, as long as it can afford to amass electrons and paper), but, you can lead a horse to water...

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:28 | 1535296 caerus
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Jacksonville Jaguars     +7500

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:50 | 1535430 JW n FL
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they mostly live in Queens Harbour.


Mon, 08/08/2011 - 00:00 | 1535497 caerus
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still...i like those odds...

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:43 | 1535313 erg
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Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:45 | 1535400 erg
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Not you JW, natty.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:51 | 1535439 JW n FL
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no worries Bro! its the end of the World Party! thats why my man said its all gravy! let him post his sales shit! it wont be long now!

1,200% Leverage is taking over the world Baby!!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:26 | 1535283 Currently Smoki...
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If you think this is sexy, the coming World War is going to knock your socks off!


Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:27 | 1535286 Itsalie
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HK is exactly 20% off recent peak. Taiwan is 17% off, will join the crowd in 2 days - so the sub-50 PMI which was ignored last week finally caught up after being jerked around by algos. Anyway, plenty of time left for the PPT to turn it around for another year-end party and super bonus. All it takes is Ben dropping hell-notes from his chinook.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:27 | 1535288 Spitzer
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Its sure nice to know when to buy gold, comex exp dates and when S&P gives you insider info

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:27 | 1535290 Thomas Jefferson
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Fat finger?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:30 | 1535304 caerus
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that's what she said

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:31 | 1535306 HungrySeagull
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Aww, did Panda Wanda step on a bamboo stickie?


I'd say it's fat paw..

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:30 | 1535307 CrankItTo11
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Gold seems pinned at $1696, even though it looks like it's trying to breach $1700. I was hoping to see it before I went to bed, but it might be fun to go to sleep and see where thins are in a few hours.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:31 | 1535310 Snidley Whipsnae
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Gold... $1699.10

A picture is worth a 1,000 words...

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:55 | 1535460 JW n FL
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23:54:26 ET


  Change: +35.90(+2.16%)   Bid:



High: 1701.30 Ask:



Low: 1663.40
Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:33 | 1535319 alien-IQ
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Gold 1701. oh my...

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:35 | 1535328 CrankItTo11
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I still haven't seen anything above $1698. What chart are you looking at?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:43 | 1535349 alien-IQ
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Think or Swim showing a high of 1701. right not it's at 1700.80

UPDATE: 1701.60 new high...will probably be higher by the time I post this.

UPDATE 2: 1702.60

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:44 | 1535389 CrankItTo11
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Oh thanks! I'm just a noob with an F5 key and an addiction for learning, but I've been reading and getting a $100 trillion education here on ZH for the past couple years. The last time I seriously considered buying stocks was in August of 2008 - hahaha. So naive at the time and SO glad I stayed out of it. It's been a fun ride to observe since then. Musical chairs on the Titanic, all the way.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 00:10 | 1535559 HungrySeagull
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Actually passing close to 1800 spot plus fee where I am. And Asks for those who own it exceed 1750.

I put a big honking ask on my pile of silver and went to bed. The damn spot plus fee is passing my ask orders faster than I can enter them. So we will see in the morning if any fish... err... buyers yes... buyers bit.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:34 | 1535321 johngaltfla
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And they did it with style. Let's see if we can match that feat tomorrow.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:36 | 1535331 wisefool
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Gold solidly above $1700

I picked the wrong week to stop digging up corpses.

 Leonardo Davinci

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:36 | 1535334 Spitzer
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If the RMB is rising then the stock market loss is not as bad as it may seem.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:42 | 1535368 Yen Cross
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ANTS forever!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:43 | 1535374 Ghoaster
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Silver bells....Silver bells

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:45 | 1535391 Peter_Griffin
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$1700 Bitchez!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:45 | 1535398 pitz
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yeah gold is motherfucking RELIGION now.  SUKI (tm) RELIGION.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:45 | 1535392 pitz
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Very positive for gold. 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:45 | 1535395 franzpick
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The bears have entered China. 

And every other country and location and entity worldwide where multi-decade credit-feasts have occurred.  The bears sense of smell and intuition leads them to all campsites where credit-refuse has not been adequately disposed.  Credit-feasting campers have created far too much waste to bury and hide in the ground; painful as it may be, their best hope is to abandon their credit refuse and exit their campsites for new, credit-free, bear-free locations.

Futures at the lows -300; AU at the highs $1700.  Politicians falling through long-term support into uncharted territory.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:47 | 1535414 alien-IQ
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"The bears have entered China."

Yep...and they ain't the cute and cuddly Panda variety either. This one is a foul dangerous beast with big sharp teeth:-)

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:48 | 1535418 espirit
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"Politicians falling through long-term support into uncharted territory."

LOL, stay away from tall buildings.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 01:19 | 1535891 gmj
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Clever post.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 08:22 | 1536414 smore
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Shock! Horror!

China's Debt Problem Worse than Portugal

This whole thing is going to turn military very soon. Within three years Zerohedge will not be discussing markets, currencies, or gold, it will all be about the war against an alliance of China, Russia, Iran, Saudi and Pakistan. 


Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:48 | 1535415 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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So the G-7 hates China?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 23:49 | 1535424 Muddy1
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Good night all.  We'll see how it looks in the mo(u)rning.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 00:03 | 1535514 chump666
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Now we wait for China CDS/bond spreads to blowout...bring them charts up ZH

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 00:28 | 1535653 Manthong
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I don't get exactly why this PIMCO fund stayed above the fray last week.

Anybody have a good reason?


Mon, 08/08/2011 - 01:08 | 1535850 cosmictrainwreck
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broken clock syndrome; most all their funds are for shit

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 00:51 | 1535777 Yen Cross
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 Give me some worthless ANT's!    !.4 ant's


       March them into Ortho Land!

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 00:53 | 1535780 Yen Cross
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China? the land of lost dreams and Ghost cities!    OOPs T`rain wrecks!

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 04:12 | 1536164 snakehead
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That's it. I'm dumping all my Yuan.  Where can I acquire physical stocks of bear paws and goat penises?

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 05:46 | 1536201 Slap That Taco
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Hate to say it....Buy China.


I just threw up.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 06:00 | 1536217 falak pema
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The only things worth going long these  days is gold n champagne. The uber rich consume these, inordinately. As the uber rich will increase proportionally to the mega poor around the world; take your pick of uber-rich niche consumption products and you can't go wrong. Until the next bubble suddenly comes along uninvited, like a barbarian on the loose, where the sun shone like it would never end...Damn these bubble cycles. You can never get rich on a hunch that makes a hunch back out of you in the cul the sac, dead-end; Quasimodo is the name of the global plebe, when its not Sisyphus!

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