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"China Will Not Hesitate To Protect Iran Even With A Third World War"

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Fast forward to 2:08: "It is puzzling to some that Major General Zhang Zhaozhong, a professor from the Chinese National Defense University, said China will not hesitate to protect Iran even with a third World War... Professor Xia Ming: "Zhang Zhaozhong said that not hesitating to fight a third world war would be entirely for domestic political needs...." And don't forget Russia, which recently said it is preparing to retaliate against NATO and has put radar stations on combat alert: "Russia is another ally of Iran, with similar policy to that of China. Toward Iran." Watch, and please forward the entire video, for an explanation of how China is approaching the situation not only in Iran, but a perspective of how they view the western "threat", as well as what tensions they face domestically.

h/t Scrataliano


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Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:11 | 1932340 bernorange
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Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:15 | 1932374 55 men
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Courtesy of John McClane,

"Yippee Ki Yay, Mother Fucker".

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:22 | 1932443 JoBob
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Courtesy of John WHO?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:34 | 1932540 trav7777
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good luck with that China...I hope these idiots don't actually believe they can fight any kind of war with anyone

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:46 | 1932618 theXman
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For those who are not familiar with General Zhang, he is not a serious military figure but a TV personaility. Because of his many wrong predictions during the 2nd Iraq war, he became a laughing stock, a Chinese version of Baghdad Bob.

Party bosses let Zhang run his mouth to please the ego of conservative audience and give Chinese government a macho apperance. He is a tool and a clown, nothing more. 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:11 | 1932746 CompassionateFascist
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"WW III"? According to the Newt, it'll be at least WW V or VI.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:56 | 1932931 redpill
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China isn't going to war any time soon, even if/when we do insanely attack Iran.  This is more about heightening rhetoric on all sides.   It needs to sound really dire so that the sheeple in each respective country unite together and stop being dissonant.  That's what this truly is about.  That's why we have a war every ten years.  Support the President dropping bombs on Iranian children or you don't support our troops and are anti-American!

Iran will get a nuclear weapon one way or another eventually no matter what we do, but if there's anything that's going to prompt them to try to use it, it's going to be to get revenge on countries that think it's OK to bomb or invade them for pursuing military technology that many other countries already have.  It's ridiculous.  But the reality is that Iran doesn't want nukes to use them, Iran wants nukes so they can come sit at the adult table and don't get treated like a child.  They aren't going to use them because it would be suicide, and they know it.  Even the insane leaders of radical movements that advocate suicide bombing always get some other poor schmuck to volunteer and do it for them, ever notice that?  These guys aren't interested in dying.

Aggression fuels aggression.  More destruction is not going to solve this.  But of course it's not intended to solve anything.  War, by and large, is a means by which control is reasserted and power consolidated.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:15 | 1933009 knukles
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Why can't we all just get along?
This is the same way they treated Brittany.

(hysterical sobbing)

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:48 | 1933107 Spirit Of Truth
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Maybe there's a reason China is building SPARE CITIES!!!

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 00:07 | 1933836 old naughty
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Yes. But they are not for us humans. Most of us will be dead, or dying after the nuclear war, no?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 01:27 | 1933976 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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China is building spare cities because they can!  They are using the dollars they have and they are building huge unoccupied cities.  And if it sounds like I am about to channel Trump I am not.  Trump should applaud China for investing in America for the last 50 years.  I do too, because a good investment shows. 

But if China stays invested, they will lose all of their money.

How funny is it that China went along with Fed policie today?  Tied at the hip, I tell you.  And guess what?  All falls down.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 09:31 | 1934530 Spirit Of Truth
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China's central planners see Western market economies as a means to their ends, i.e., learn and copy the technology developed from "free societies", then use it to efficiently destroy us and dominate the free world.  They don't care about anything but power and control, and those willing to believe otherwise are useful stooges as they pursue their global designs at our expense.

The "Old Enemy" never went away, it simply changed it's camouflage:

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 09:50 | 1934573 Spirit Of Truth
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Note that last bit in the Chinese news report above: "Russia is another ally of Iran, with similar policy to that of China toward Iran."

This is key.

"The failure of U.S. policymakers to comprehend the veiled aggressiveness and hostility towards the United States inherent in Sino-Soviet strategy and the belief that the political and economic reforms in Russia and the partial introduction of capitalism in China have foreshadowed these countries' development into real democracies, have eroded the effectiveness of U.S. policies in the foreign affairs, defense, intelligence and counter-intelligence fields.  U.S. policymakers have recklessly accepted the premise that Russia and China are no longer enemies, but are rather potential allies and partners fully deserving of U.S. support.  Only countries like Iran, (pre-2003) Iraq and North Korea - which (ironically, in this context) work secretly with Russia and China - are still considered potential adversaries." - KGB DEFECTOR ANATOLIY GOLITSYN, THE PERESTROIKA DECEPTION, 1995, P.230

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 00:16 | 1933855 AldousHuxley
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IRAN is China's favorite bitch.

China is the pimp.

Russia is the don.

America is baywatch.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 01:27 | 1933981 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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America is Pam? 


Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:24 | 1933039 treasurefish
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Exactly!  The only folks who would give you a thumbs down haven't taken the recommended single dose of the red pill.  The Chinese also don't war.  They know everything they manufacture is junk.  Good luck firing a rifle that breaks after a single shot, or gets lead paint in your skin.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 21:34 | 1933435 Lednbrass
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Im hoping this is sarcasm, if not its pure stupidity from an idiot who knows nothing about weaponry.  Their rifles arent are actually quite reliable, there are many thousands of rifles in the US imported from China in the 90's which are good solid rifles.  I like my Chinese milsurp SKS alot, it never ever malfunctions and is an excellent semi auto carbine. Their AK's are also quite good. Norinco screwed up and got busted by the FBI for offering to sell real heavy weaponry in the US or alot more would be over here, but it is a great mistake to think that they build rifles for their own military as haphazardly as they do goods to sell to Western suckers.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:45 | 1933096 Rainman
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In other words, it's all about the oil.....

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:27 | 1933211 trav7777
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bbbbut...bbbbbut...jewTV tells me that they would annihilate Israel just as soon as they managed to achieve fission!

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 00:19 | 1933865 AldousHuxley
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the vision is to make the middle east oilland part of Israel + Saudi Kingdom.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 22:08 | 1933527 madmax1965
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Yes indeed redpill and "war is a racket"! TPTB are setting this one up perfectly.  This shit is getting very exhuasting! 

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 02:17 | 1934039 Freddie
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The Chinese want us to start a war so we can bomb their new empty cities.  This will allow them to rebuild newer empty cities.  Our bombs will take down the new buildings before the shitty construction takes them down fairly soon.

Our endless B-52 strikes will help revive their constructions sector and reinflate their property bubble.  Caterpillar will sell them new CAT's graders and bulldozers.  Endless war is good for business.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:35 | 1932857 krispkritter
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We had ZZ Top.  They have ZZ Not...Baghdad Bob indeed...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:36 | 1932863 YBNguy
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So down twinkles on Ragnarok it is.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:49 | 1933089 earleflorida
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Re: General Zhang

'there is much truth to be said of a fools errand,... splintered upon a freudian slip'

"Tailor's Dilemma'       {[humor-- practical and otherwise] [chinese wit & humor c.1946___edited by george kao / introduction by lin yutang]}

"A tailor was cutting a suit for a customer. He turned the piece of the material over for a long time without being able to bring himself to use the scissors. The apprentice boy finally asked him why he hesitated, and the answer was: 'If I cut something out for him there will be nothing left for me; if I cut something for me there will be nothing for him"        jmo

fwiw dept:

 ,... do we have a 'false dichotomy'; a 'morton's fork', suspended 'in`medias`res' predicated upon the obvious 'kafkaesque-situation - or just a machiavellian ploy hubris?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:46 | 1933279 Tijuana Donkey Show
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The chinese Rush/Beck?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:52 | 1933307 BigInJapan
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Yeah, he's an asshat.
You're honma fight ww3, are you?
How is it you plan on moving troops?

Those brownteeth couldn't invade Taiwan if they wanted to.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 02:55 | 1934014 i-dog
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They don't need to invade Taiwan. They've already got a Trojan Horse president in there (ironically named 'Ma' - which means horse in Chinese - LOL)!

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 05:21 | 1934234 merizobeach
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Sadly correct.  January 14 will be presidential elections; re-electing Ma will be the end of Taiwan's nationhood.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 23:51 | 1933799 Belteshazzar
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Thank you for pointing this out. The headline of this post allows the reader to interpret General Zhang's statement as though it was an announcement from China's government when in fact this is not the case.


Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:47 | 1932623 Zeilschip
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Your pathetic Pavlovian spamposts on anything relating to China are getting boooooring.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:55 | 1932668 PaperBugsBurn
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Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:49 | 1932630 Silenus
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Yes, they can fight a war with anyone - they have lots of nuclear bombs. If it comes down to WWIII, it'll go nuclear.

Just don't expect a long life for yourself or anyone else. Learn to embrace death.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:27 | 1932821 onthesquare
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"long live death"  Jose Astray

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:54 | 1932934 Uber Vandal
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There is only one God, and his name is Death.

And there is only one thing you say to Death.

Not today.

Quote begins at 1:31

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 22:47 | 1933624 connda
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"Yes, they can fight a war with anyone - they have lots of nuclear bombs. If it comes down to WWIII, it'll go nuclear.

Just don't expect a long life for yourself or anyone else. Learn to embrace death."


Long: freezed dried foods, subterranean bunkers, and potassium idiode.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 02:20 | 1934045 Freddie
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Just don't expect a long life for yourself or anyone else. Learn to embrace death.

Is this the new Hope & Change for 2012?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:50 | 1932642 PaperBugsBurn
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I guess Chinese nukes aren't nukes at all and slanty-eyed, mass produced anti-ship ballistic missiles won't put an end to tge era of your gunboat diplomacy once and for all, and of course, rednecks are smarter, tougher warriors tgan the Russians, Chinese, Iranians...etc etc

Bring it on, biatch!!!

EMP your ass back to the stone age, motherfucker.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:29 | 1933050 Ropingdown
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Chinese nukes ride atop missiles whose guidance systems were improved thanks to Raytheon, whose technology for missile guidance was sold to the Chinese due to a waiver the Clinton administration provided....just about the time CEO Michael Schwartz, having been refuse waivers for so long, wrote a big check to the DNC.   As with the young Medal of Honor winner who recently sued BAE Systems, we have to ask ourselves this question: Why should we ever let our sons get involved in a war which will have them facing the technical wonders we paid for with our defense research appropriations.  When we have to sell high-end defense technology to our most obvious military rivals just to keep our economy going, we've got a problem.  We're going to have to make a law mandating that the CEO's children or grandchildren have to be on the front line of any such war.  Maybe that will get their consciences going?  "Never happen!" you say?  Thanks for making my point.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:15 | 1933174 Alpacanio
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Notice how all crap leads somehow back to Clinton? I said it then, and say it now. He sold us down the river 1st. And we are going to pay for it the next 50 years...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 21:24 | 1933406 Jack Burton
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Nixon opened China and began an era of US support for China's economic rise, which naturally has led to a military rise. Nixon was doing the corporations bidding, they wanted China as the new non-union workshop for corporate America to boost profits, destroy union shops and eliminate the US middle class. Mission accomplished! Mr. Clinton was nothing but a Nixon want to be and a sex addict who worshiped that thing in his pants.

Along the way Clinton learned that to be the president meant courting corporate America, a thing he did to perfection. I belive corporate America enjoyed the Clinton years even more than the Bush years. Bush/Clinton, so what was the difference?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:48 | 1933290 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Yes, but their made in China! Maybe they can tow them on that "carrier" they just launched. I'm no military fan, but the Chinese and US will fight a cyber war, and the loser is anyone who likes the Internet, running water, and electicity. 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 23:03 | 1933664 Axenolith
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I believe that would be Loral Space Systems, not Raytheon...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:55 | 1933122 SheepHerder
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Do you have kids?  How about good friends?  A mom?  A dad?  It'd be something to print your post out and give it to you should you ever see their brains and guts splattered on a sidewalk due to a country doing just as you recommend and bringing it on...biatch.  Any middle schooler can sit at a computer and type out mindless drivel. But this isn't an episode of GI Joe's or X-Men we are dicussing.  Show some maturity along with intelligence and think about what you want to be brought.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:51 | 1932648 AldousHuxley
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All China has to do would be to tell walmart they are cutting off shipment.

American underclass shoppers would go crazy when they find out they can't buy the latest junk on TV and will finally riot on the capital hill.


Plus the oligarchy who profit off of offshored manufacturing would go all out Koch bros on politicians to stop the "war".



Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:00 | 1932695 aldousd
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I don't think you're right; however, it would be a sweet irony to see the riots happen because walmart was taken away instead of the traditional leftist mantra that it should be.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:16 | 1933016 Manny
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Then who will they manufacture for ? And if manufacturing goes down what will those sweat workers do with nothing on hand ?  Not something those guys in Beijing would like them to do.

If anything, Walmart is our defense missile system for China!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:02 | 1933142 SheepHerder
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Who will they manufacture for?  Themselves and other countries that show they can pay their debt.  If a person is maxed out on credit card debt, the store doesn't make and sell them goods, because they need something to do.  

And if manufacturing goes down what will those sweat workers do with nothing on hand?  Make it for their families and take it home.  I mean, aside from worthless paper with worthless contracts saying we will pay them back, what does the US exchange for the time, energy, and resources the Chinese give us in Wal-Mart goods?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 11:41 | 1934955 prole
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Like it ore not those funny little ugly no-longer-artistic American mini paper-portraits of dead presidents have  magic power all over the world and anyone who owns oh say- trillions of them can buy the world. Japan tried it and semi-crashed lol but now it's Chinas turn and I think it's working.

So what are we giving China? The world. And our wealth.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:08 | 1933156 HurricaneSeason
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Maybe they'll manufacture TVs for African tribes in exchange for oil, gold, diamonds and crops. They might not need anymore toll roads or oil companies.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 23:58 | 1933814 trav7777
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with what electricity are those TVs gonna be powered?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 11:45 | 1934967 prole
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There won't be any TVs. There will only be a boot in the face if the natives get restless. Whichever tribal leader gets paid off won't care what happens to the fodder, He (dictator) will be wherever dictators go for personal Beyonce concerts and etc etc.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 21:00 | 1933333 BigInJapan
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Finally, somebody who understands.

China fighting Europe, Japan, and North America in WW3? And to whom will the brownteeth masses then export their junk?
I'm feeling pretty smug today for inventing a new slur for the Chinese, I am.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 21:58 | 1933502 thefatasswilly
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What a sad wasp.

It's China, Russia, Germany vs USA, Britain, France.

The former will win, for obvious reasons I've outlined here before. I suggest you read and think some more before you post, because you're coming across as a fucking idiot.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 00:32 | 1933900 BigInJapan
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Oh, I've thought plenty, thanks.

Coming across like a fucking idiot who's got his ducks in a row.

Germany, the fattest military in the world? That Germany?

Russia, the drunkest COUNTRY in the world with an average life expectancy for men of 59 years? That Russia?

China, well, they'll tear themselves apart while the rest of us stand and watch, so pay attention when the grownups are talking, alright Willy?


Thu, 12/01/2011 - 04:00 | 1934183 myne
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Hah whats the us going to do when the strategic reserve recieves a bunker busting incendiary and no middle eastern or south american country will supply oil? What's a nimitz going to do against a barrage of inertial compensating over the horizon artillery shells? What's the cia going to do when the anti sattellite missiles roar to life?


China has those too.

Any way you look at it, China has counters to your toys, factories and has maintained better relations with suppliers. The US arrogantly shits in everyone's nest and assumes that they have some sort of divine moral superiority that makes its nukes the ultimate fallback, while no doubt it would condemn others with the same attitude.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 14:07 | 1935558 upWising
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Mr. BigInJapan!!   I have a question!! (hand waving frantically in the air).

"If we get in a war with the brownteeth and the Germans and the Ruski's, does that mean my Dad will have to get off the LazyBoy couch?  Will we still have TeeVee?  What will happen to Dancing With the Stars?   Will will still have the Grammy's?  Will we still have frozen pizza?"


Thu, 12/01/2011 - 21:38 | 1936949 thefatasswilly
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You are an idiotic waste of oil, oxygen, and fresh water.

The worst part is, you believe that you are special, when in reality, you are less useful as a transformer of dead animals into shit than a pig, because at least a pig doesn't waste oil typing nonsense on a computer.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:21 | 1933029 olo - that's th...
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no worse. they'll stop making iphones at foxconn.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:37 | 1933080 Teamtc321
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Is that your true photo there AldousHuxley? 

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 04:07 | 1941152 mkkby
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Correct.  And if that doesn't get the message across, they can turn off the lights for the entire western world's factories.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:13 | 1933000 He_Who Carried ...
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Germans to the front!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 22:01 | 1933513 thefatasswilly
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You're usually capable of rational thought, round eye. Your insecurity in the face of Chinese domination in conjunction with anglo saxon failure is showing.

Even if China can't take on America alone (which it can, because China will not be fighting in the west; the battlefield will be Eurasia. Think American Revolution, supply lines, and other such logistical thoughts), China won't be fighting alone, and I'm certain you understand just how deadly ze germans are.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 22:17 | 1933549 Lord Koos
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In a conventional war, the Chinese might do a lot better than you think.  (I use the term "think" loosely).  China the largest standing army in the world, and the factories to back up their military.  The US has no mfg base compared to WWII where we essentially won the war by being able to produce twice as many tanks, ships and airplanes as could Nazi Germany


Iran, the next Vietnam, only a bit more global in scale.  I predict disaster for the USA if they try to attack Iran.  Gas will be rationed and will cost at least $10 a gallon, for one thing.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 22:46 | 1933620 Bruin4
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trav777 ,

You and your redneck flag waving buddies grossly underestimate the awesome power of the Chinese military. they would have us licking their boots in less than 12 hours, it will be the shortest war in history. Next to of course the war in Iran.....he he


Thu, 12/01/2011 - 02:25 | 1934053 Freddie
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As opposed to your muslim's 6 wars?   Bush sucked but the muslim is exponentially worse.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:44 | 1932606 Thomas
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They are just trying to rally the DOW another 500 points.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:43 | 1932893 Temporalist
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Thomas my thoughts exactly. 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:21 | 1933192 AldoHux_IV
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Not to mention that whenever central banking is at the core of problems with a global financial crisis, there tends to be a big distraction aka world war so that a 'Bretton Woods' type agreement can be made amongst the new creditor nations.

Even the jasmine revolutions are having an adverse effect as protests within developed nations have increased. The beast may have many heads (or squid may have many tentacles whatever you prefer), but will soon find it can not defend itself from the concept of inevitability.

The days of manipulation and schemes to move the markets/focus is coming to an end.  Those (all current central planners) who don't learn from history suffer the peril of repeating history-- and being on the wrong side of it.

Demand change within our government, cleanse the democratic process, end the fed, IMF, and Worldbank, and let's start fixing our damn economy already.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:12 | 1932750 Piranhanoia
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You know,  "Riverboat ring your bell,  Fare thee well Annabelle, Luck is the lady that I love the best"  No?  Natchez to New Orleans,  Livin' on Jacks and Queens, Maverick was the legend of the West".   No?  

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:30 | 1932836 onthesquare
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what ever you are smoking--I want some!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:34 | 1933232 Chuck Walla
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McCain - lock up all those crazy American Tea partiers. No, sorry, I meant McClane...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:23 | 1932448 dlmaniac
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Hmmm, let me check Lockheed Martin stock first. BRB...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:26 | 1932818 Rahm
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Yippee Yi Yippie Yay, which country's gonna get f-ed up today?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:39 | 1932875 YBNguy
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Pass the gun, spin the chamber, then pull the trigger.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:15 | 1932376 HedgeAccordingly
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ENd of month closing print - #loose 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:20 | 1932418 Financial_Guard...
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Russia, China, and the USSA are starting up a new game.

It's called: "Who can get to the oil first". Remember, there is only one winner 'cause everyone else dies.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:30 | 1932499 MrTown3
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including the winner..

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:32 | 1932518 PAPA ROACH
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China should open the door for shiites to flood in........see how long the affair lasts.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:34 | 1932533 MrTown3
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just more mouths not to feed...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:22 | 1932799 Kayman
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Muslim/Atheist love fest. Whose got the soap ?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:22 | 1933194 Miles Kendig
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Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:22 | 1932800 sleepingbeauty
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This is the ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny...

and the battle raged on for a century
many lives were claimed, but eventually
the champion stood, the rest saw their better:
Mr. Rogers in a bloodstained sweater

Sounds like Canada, just sayin.
Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:43 | 1932890 CPL
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Ottawa and Toronto would be done the first volley.  Just sayin.  Want to avoid dying in a nuclear hell storm?  Africa.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 23:27 | 1933724 thefatasswilly
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Africa? Are you joking? Way too close to Europe, which is definitely a high priority nuclear target.

I'd say New Zealand: no one really gives a shit about Australia, and New Zealand is even more worthless!

Beautiful, though :)

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:44 | 1933094 Raging Debate
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Oh no you deedint!!!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:36 | 1932864 onthesquare
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with a little moral support from the peanut galary.  Our very own teabagging, nut sucking prime minister from Canada.  Lets have a big hand for Heir Harper.

You guys get stuck with a turn coat liar and we have idiots voting for our very own, proud to be an North American Heir Harper.

How far up Obama's ass can our PM stick his head?

A little arsenic with your tar sands?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:55 | 1932940 AldousHuxley
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old game buddy


it was always about controlling trade routes and raw materials.


in a hierarchy in monkey society, the alpha males are always stressed out (higher blood pressure) from challenges from younger monkeys and younger monkeys always had to fight for their right to mate.


The most benefits go to aloof monkeys who don't give a shit and female monkeys who just mate whoever is in power.


No wonder US spends half of taxes on war (superpower paranoia), younger monkeys fighting for their status (China and Russia), the most benefits go to aloof monkeys like Luxemburg and female monkeys like Tahiti.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 11:51 | 1934980 prole
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You are confusing 'superpower paranoia' with 'being someone's biatch.'

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:00 | 1932954 imaginalis
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The new game will be for each leadership to see who can decimate each others populations the most while covering their recent and thieving criminal activities. WWW III will be desired, schemed and executed with high level cooperation. It's the end game and not to many moves away.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 00:20 | 1933867 s2man
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"to see who can" kill 1/10th of "each others populations the most" ???

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:37 | 1933243 Chuck Walla
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Emperor Zero no want oil, he want buy from South America or anywhere Georgi Soros owns beeg interest.  Beeg Emperor no want too much oil so he can make 1% donors richer with more smart Solyndra deals.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:54 | 1932932 Smiddywesson
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End of the world?

"Had to end sometime."  - Riddick

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:11 | 1932994 True.North
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First proxy war in the new 21st century cold war?

US -> Israel vs Iran <- China

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:18 | 1933179 Cthonic
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Never get involved in a land war in Asia...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:13 | 1932342 GeneMarchbanks
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So there's some good news. I'll rest easier tonight knowing iRan will be just fine.

America your war days are over.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:23 | 1932449 Nascent_Variable
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This move just solidifies Syria as the next target.  TPTB wouldn't know what to do with themselves if they weren't getting our kids killed in some fresh Middle East conflict, while burning giant stacks of money.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:26 | 1932468's picture

I think Libya was the last bone the SCO is going to throw us.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 21:41 | 1933448 cranky-old-geezer
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Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:33 | 1932525 Zero Govt
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Let's friggin hope so

i for one am sick to the back teeth of one gobby spineless twat (US President) after another calling on God to "bless" them starting yet another illegal false-flag war against yet another weak low-tek defenceless country

the best deterrent is muscle ...China and Russia are big enough to keep the retarded Yank war machine in its seats thinking long and hard ...looks like Americas bully boy days are over (fingers crossed)

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:40 | 1932877 onthesquare
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If US screws with China then it will be so long to made in Chinese crap.  The US will have to make everything themselves or get it from their friends, if they have any.  North America will have to support itself.  No exporting and no importing...Hey this may be worth a try.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 12:04 | 1935025 prole
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Since (my guess- 25%?) of the productive Americans (the Americans who are productive) already support multiple redundant armies of parasites:

1- Actual Military or Foreign legion

2- Police state apparatus.

3- Those beaurocrats who are unarmed=  paid by the .gov who pretends to work and does not carry a gun.

4- Welfare State which means those paid by the .gov who do not have to pretend to work

5- Our overseas masters and their little oasis.

So considering 25% of Americans can support multiple layers of harmful parasites and themselves, I think they could support America itself, if they suddenly had to. (like they don't already?)

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:12 | 1932346 Westcoastliberal
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Uh Oh.  Here comes the Mother of all EMP's.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:24 | 1933033 scatterbrains
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could an EMP repel a PPT HFT ?


Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:12 | 1932347 CClarity
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I certainly hope there is some mis-translation if this is a legit video.

OT - What the hell is that dingleberry hanging around Maria's neck today?  Symbol of . . . . ?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:21 | 1932433 Cleanclog
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  1. vulgar. A particle of fecal matter attached to the anal hair.
  2. vulgar. A foolish or inept person.
Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:27 | 1932481's picture

Q. Why are there no toilets on Star Trek?

A. Because they use phasers to zap the Klingons.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:03 | 1932711 Joeman34
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What do toilette paper and the starship enterprise have in common?


They both circle Uranus looking for Klingons


Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:11 | 1932993 smiler03
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How quaint, "toilette" paper ;O)

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:44 | 1932604 CClarity
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Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:35 | 1932546 smlbizman
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she seems to have more shit in her mouth today than usual.......

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:12 | 1932349 TeamDepends
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The essential act of war is destruction, not necessarily of human lives, but of the products of human labor.

Orwell  1984

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:18 | 1932398 NotApplicable
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As once the products are all gone, the lives take care of themselves.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:18 | 1932408 lolmao500
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So Orwell was like Krugman? War and destruction of goods is bullish since it means you need to replace the stuff, creating jobs!

Krugman and Keynesianism, right out of 1984!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:29 | 1932490's picture

No. Orwell was saying that those who think like Krugman are wrong about war.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:19 | 1933022 knukles
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Those who think like Krugman are just plain fucking wrong.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:31 | 1932505 BKbroiler
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Zorg: Life, which you so nobly serve, comes from destruction, disorder and chaos. Now take this empty glass. Here it is: peaceful, serene, boring. But if it is destroyed 
[Pushes the glass off the table. It shatter on the floor, and several small machines come out to clean it up
Zorg: Look at all these little things! So busy now! Notice how each one is useful. A lovely ballet ensues, so full of form and color. Now, think about all those people that created them. Technicians, engineers, hundreds of people, who will be able to feed their children tonight, so those children can grow up big and strong and have little teeny children of their own, and so on and so forth. Thus, adding to the great chain of life. You see, father, by causing a little destruction, I am in fact encouraging life. In reality, you and I are in the same business.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:16 | 1932765 Manthong
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Thanks for bringing that up..

I did not immediately associate Zorg with the Krugmanian flood fallacy. 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 22:06 | 1933524 Ricky Bobby
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That was a great scene but I could never get milla jovovich out of my mind.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 12:18 | 1935092 prole
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Zorg is championing the broken window fallacy perfectly non?

The act of breaking a glass or window, actual loss is the only result. After all the robot maids dance, the only result is productive robot time wasted and a perfectly good item, a glass, is lost.

Digging holes and refilling them would be better, only wasting time (like government work lol) but causing no actual harm. (Of course I'm wrong on that last point)

Zorg is a total idiot and 100% wrong. Destruction, disorder and chaos bring poverty famine and death. If people who think like him would smash their own head that would be the only destruction that actually helps the world.

Work labor and toil build roofs to cover heads from the rain and grow crops that feed hungry mouths.


Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:36 | 1932549 el Gallinazo
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Read the god damn book! It is the training manual for the NWO.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:54 | 1932659 Coronal Mass Ej...
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1984...sigh...almost 30 years ahead of it's time...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:49 | 1932917 muckraker
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Have you even read 1984? It was Orwell's scathing indictment of what he saw as the emergence of totalitarian societies throughout the world and how he envisioned the world in the year 1984 (written in 1949). Believe it or not Orwell was not advocating for the dystopia he portrays in his novel. 1984 is didactic rather than exemplary.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:13 | 1932350 1835jackson
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Long Nuclear War Heads....gulp!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:15 | 1932380 Minoan
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Only roaches and bankers will survive.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:20 | 1932423 mayhem_korner
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Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:26 | 1932817 Kayman
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A banker wears a suit.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:52 | 1933119 Rainman
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and sunglasses

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:08 | 1932985 Sweet Chicken
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There's an extermination service for roaches?!?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:14 | 1933005 Sokhmate
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same difference

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:57 | 1933130 Milestones
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Franz Kafka will never write a book about one of them (Actually I think in the Metamorphosis it was a beatle)    Milestones

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:21 | 1932431 The Disappointed
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Same thing.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:24 | 1932456 Global Hunter
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Keith Richards too but for different reasons.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:38 | 1932565 Zero Govt
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his immune system is hardened like no other to any chemical or biological weaponary... par excellence from 40 years of the Stones (Stones by name, stoned by nature)

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:13 | 1932351 GOSPLAN HERO
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just a shit talker.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:47 | 1932622 Thomas
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Fastest moderator delete in history. Hardly had time to give that guy a thumbs down.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:53 | 1932657 Messianic
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That was about the most hilariously retarded post i've ever seen here.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:55 | 1932669 Coronal Mass Ej...
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That is definitely what I would call a severe case of adult ADHD...LOL

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:56 | 1932666 DavidPierre
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Bon débarras... poubelles mauvaise!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:13 | 1932353 Black Forest
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Good news. Buy AAPL.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:14 | 1932360 wisefool
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Can we please find the price it will take to get Krugman to retire from public life? I feel like my avatar from a different movie... Paul "we need a war" Krugman is basically the Joker in Batman The Dark Knight.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:39 | 1932576 el Gallinazo
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Yeah, we need the war, but he has to be politically correct as well, writing for the Toilet Paper of Record and "teaching" in Princeton.   So the war has to be with really ugly fucking aliens with testicles, I mean tentacles, bigger than Lord Blankfein's.  

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:42 | 1932886 wisefool
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@ Ms. Erable (below) I am one of these ultraNONviolence types. But I can understand peoples rage. I would offer for the agressive types that it is better to stop bad actors, but let them suffer the exposition of their acts as long as possible. 

@ el Gallinazo

Wait a minute. Thats it! Can we get some Ivy League economics/law review to

Publish the following article:

Macro Economic Aspects of when a person wins two Nobel prizes in Econ will basically save the world.

Chapter 1. I retire

The End. Paul Krugman, PhD.

Get the Nobel committee to rubber stamp it, Give him the prize for 2012. The aliens do nasty probes on human during recon missions. I do not want to know what they would do to us during Krugman's war.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:59 | 1932692 Ms. Erable
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It'd cost about 40 cents to retire Krugman, but only if you use the cheap .30cal rounds.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:14 | 1932361 Sudden Debt
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Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:15 | 1932368 alagon
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If WW3 occurs, I'll move to Canada with my chest of gold.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:20 | 1932417 Al Huxley
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Yes, nuclear winter will be much more bearable in Canada.

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