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The Chronology Of A Collapse: Santelli's Primer On The PFG Debacle

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There remains some confusion about the timing of actions around the PFG Best disaster. From withdrawn salary cuts to liquidation-only orders to forced liquidations from Friday to today, CNBC's Rick Santelli provides a succinct and shocking insight into what real money accounts and brokers have dealt with and continue to try to comprehend. The sad truth about where the money went is summed up by his guest that "we're just hearing rumors; it could be, on a percentage basis, worse than MF Global."

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Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:28 | 2610392 TruthInSunshine
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My Fellow Citizens,

I  send my deepest condolences to all who have been and who will be adversely affected by this unfortunate event.

I will not rest until the truth of how & why this disaster transpired is uncovered, until all innocent parties who have suffered losses are recompensed fully, and I hereby personally pledge to do everything within my power to bring the wicked miscreants that were responsible for this criminal travesty to a swift justice.

Our systems of economics and justice, which inherently rely on a robust pillar of trust in institutions, can not survive unless those who perpetrate fraud on this scale, obviously fueled by a seemingly unquenchable avarice and greed, are appropriately punished for their reprehensible deeds.

Finally, allow me to acknowledge the fine work of persons such as Mr. Rick Santelli, who seems passionate in his own personal mission to get to the bottom of this rotten carcass. His kind of vigilance helps to protect all of us who have and always will "play by the rules."

 

Sincerely,

 

The Hon. Jon S. Corzine

 

Former United States Senator (D-NJ), Former Governor of New Jersey, Former CEO of Goldman Sachs, Former CEO of MF Global (a former Primary Dealer), and prominent Obama Bundler

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:29 | 2610416 slaughterer
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That letter from Corzine has to be the sickest, most evil prank that has ever made me spray out my coffee onto my screen....

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:34 | 2610438 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Take back the power from the banks - take back the money supply!

BUY SILVER!

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:35 | 2610441 I think I need ...
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And CNBC has an analyst on all week by the name of Ed Ponsi,,,,,you can't make this shit up

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:36 | 2610443 ghengis86
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they're laughing at the muppets.  as they should

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:57 | 2610513 azzhatter
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Yep, I'll bet a fair number here are still banking with JPM, BAC and the likes. It would be so simple to kill the beast, just starve it but we won't, why I'll never know

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 14:39 | 2610634 cossack55
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Since JPMorgue runs the EBT card business for the Frauderal Govt., I don't see them starving soon.  You, on the other hand........

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 14:45 | 2610655 knukles
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I wish the Unicorn* would make some serious public pronouncement to calm the markets.

 

* ref: Timmah as newly named by our "friends" (for that ever so very brief moment) on CNBS.  No I didn't think that up.  Don't shoot the messenger.

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 14:01 | 2610525 Pinto Currency
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How much physical metal is in the PFG accounts and will it be returned to account holders or, like MF Global, will "value of the holdings" (paper not actual holdings) be returned to account holders.

Is this a clip by the bullion banks to secure physical metal as it appears it may have been with MF Global?

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From http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/07/beware-allocated-gold-may-not-really-be-there.html

" The trustee overseeing the liquidation of the failed brokerage has proposed dumping all remaining customer assets - gold, silver, cash, options, futures and commodities—into a single pool that would pay customers only 72% of the value of their holdings. In other words, while traders already may have paid the full price for delivery of specific bars of gold or silver—and hold “warehouse receipts” to prove it—they’ll have to forfeit 28% of the value...

...At stake is an unspecified, but apparently large, volume of gold and silver bars slated for delivery to traders through accounts at MF Global, which filed for bankruptcy on Oct. 31. Adding insult to the injury: Of the 28% haircut, attorney and liquidation trustee James Giddens has frozen all asset classes, meaning that traders have sat helplessly as silver prices have dropped 31% since late August, and gold has fallen 16%. To boot, the traders are still being assessed fees for storage of the commodities…"

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And now PFG Best:

http://www.pfgbest.com/services/metals/

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/pfgbest-now-mf-global-part-2-220-million-segregated-client-money-has-just-vaporized

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 14:40 | 2610643 slaughterer
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What's up with CNBC today?  Videos of sharks (2nd day in a row), headline story about PFG (with on-site reporting). Uncle Warren spouting accelerating downward spiral doom? 

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 14:53 | 2610668 knukles
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Ever forget your meds?

Or, let's talk up QEwhateverthey'regonnacallit

 

I mean CNBS is a functionary of the rich and famous, fabulously wealthy, top 1%, of which Uncle Remus is a member, so why not, for the good of all mankind...
Oh, the humanity of it all..............

Like the econuts, save the planet horseshit.
As if fucking 401(k) statements matter anymore.

Come on, folks, the PigMen are panicking behind the Green Curtain.
Look at the charts, the interventions in markets, the news, the jawboning... including this.
No, it's not fucking OK
And they know it...
Gotta soften up the underbelly of America, inject fear and agony into the environment (come on, think Eddie Bernays, for Christ's sakes) to set it up to be ready for the BailOut Of The Century

 

It wouldn't work today, it'd just be another oh hemmm hawwww

Gotta bleed LOTS to call the Doctor.
No Iodine on the cuts here, gonna be Moral Ethical Transplant Surgery.

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 14:22 | 2610579 zeneta
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I personally know Ed Ponsi.

He's a good guy, very smart, and is in a self promotion mode.

If you notice he tends to be "perfectly vague" in his analysis.

 

 

 

 

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 14:53 | 2610670 vast-dom
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Manduka has not much credibility after donating 3M to PFG.

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 19:49 | 2611465 Buck Johnson
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I know, I couldn't believe it until I actually saw his name.  It's almost like they are pissing down our backs and not even bothering to say it's rain.

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:37 | 2610450 Cognitive Dissonance
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LH, is that you single handedly pushing up the price of Silver (and Gold) after the cartel beat it down this morning?

Heave ho! And thank you. :)

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:49 | 2610491 ATM
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Have you bought all you are going to buy? I'm haven't. I want silver at $5 and gold at $250. 

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:58 | 2610518 Cognitive Dissonance
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The cartel ain't done yet. However, each time the price gets down near these support levels I purchase more.

Time to sell everything not nailed down so I can purchase even more Silver and Gold.

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 14:14 | 2610566 youngman
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I bought today....prices down...but the world problems are just getting bigger...

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:31 | 2610429 ghengis86
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Ahhh....the Honorable Jon S. Corzine.  My apologies.  I had mistaken you for a differnt, less-than-honorable, cock-scuking, lying, stealing, theiving mother fucker who should be rotting in some federal pound me in the ass prison who paid off the right people and bundled funds for the right dictator to get off scot free to live in some non-extraditable country full of bunga-bunga parties, coke, hookers and the best golden toilets GS/JPM can buy with taxpayer bailout and Corzined-Muppeted-Personally appropriated funds.

my bad.

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:41 | 2610466 Cognitive Dissonance
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Don't hold back bro. Tell us how you REALLY feel.

:>)

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:59 | 2610523 azzhatter
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somebody reported seeing him hanging out in the Hamptons last week. This brazen cocksucker doesn't even feel the need to leave the country. Dictator and Dickholder got his back

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 14:27 | 2610595 cougar_w
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doood that was epic

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:44 | 2610480 cougar_w
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If this latest clusterfuck serves to refocus the light on Corzine, then at least something good will have come from it.

Corzine should have been wearing an orange jumpsuit a long time ago. That, or a fall from the 42nd floor.

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:52 | 2610493 Cognitive Dissonance
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Cougar,

What the hell are you doing to all those cities and towns out in California that's driving them into bankruptcy? Are the girls loose again?

http://madscienceunlimited.com/fiction/

BTW Mrs. Cog is "a ferocious fan".

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 14:07 | 2610544 cougar_w
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Man tell me about it, munis around here are toast. Two decades of easy credit and house flipping are coming home to roost. Not to mention all the technology jobs that went to China.

My best to the Misses. Didn't know I had an actual fan! I feel so important now. Been working on a short, fun piece where Diamond "gets into the act" as they say, turning on the charm and extracting a truly heart-felt confession from a dirty dealer. In the process giving a shout-out to an actual man-eating tiger who not long ago made headlines right here in San Fran! It's non-stop mind-numbing terror -- how can one cat be having so much fun?

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 14:11 | 2610555 Cognitive Dissonance
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Good to hear the epic continues. Make sure to find me in the threads and via email when you release it so I can get the word out.

I know you don't shamelessly promote your own work...........so let me do it for you. :>)

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 14:43 | 2610647 hustler etiquette
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I would like to view your past work that the fellow below has mentioned

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 14:57 | 2610679 cougar_w
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Certainly. Most current stuff can be had here:

http://madscienceunlimited.com/fiction/

I add to that list once in a while, you can always check back there and see what I've been up to. I have 3 in process right now, could go up any day.

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:46 | 2610484 Mr. Bingley
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For a minute there I thought this Corzine letter was written by OJ...

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:53 | 2610490 TruthInSunshine
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No worries, friends.

Eric PlaceHolder, in the extraordinary league of gentlemen, one of Obama's modern day "Elliot Ness's"  and one tough prosecutor is on the case of PFG, MF Global & massive, systemic Wall Street criminal racketeering, writ large.

Fri, 07/13/2012 - 07:26 | 2612190 StychoKiller
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Dyslexia temporarily got me, I read systemic Wall Street as "Sesame Street."  :>D

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:47 | 2610487 Michael
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Thanks Truth.

From almost the inception of ZH and before on housing bubble blogs, you have heard me say, "I just thank God every day for the complete and total worldwide economic collapse", as it's the only thing that will solve most of our problems. This was my way of sounding the alarm of the inevitable. How did I know, I did the math correctly and people should be getting ready as the next depression will make the great depression look like a picnic.

I do know the horrible implications of this statement in all it's gory details and I do not want to see people get slaughtered but alas, it will happen because certain people running the show are pure evil and there's nothing the sheeple will do to stop it. Too bad.

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 14:42 | 2610646 Pure Evil
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Ah, come on, we're not all that bad.

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:49 | 2610489 resurger
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i started loving rick, after his last interview with Nigel

nice one TIS

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:53 | 2610501 disabledvet
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Here, here! Huzzah, huzzah huzzah! Rah, rah! Shish koom-bah! (I mean doesn't anyone anymore concern themselves with HOW THIS LOOKS?! No? Cuz "the media's got our back"? REALLY?)

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 14:06 | 2610543 Rearranging Dec...
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Scarry that Banksters learned their ethics from Orenthal James (OJ). 

 

" I won't rest until I have searched every private golfcourse, five-star restaurant, and high class brothel for the real culprits."

 

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 14:43 | 2610649 Pure Evil
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Now his cellmate can search his rectal cavity to see if the killers are hiding up there.

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 15:21 | 2610770 I am more equal...
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that should read "and prominent Obama Bumbler"

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 15:25 | 2610781 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Very good TIS!

"Former United States Senator (D-NJ), Former Governor of New Jersey, Former CEO of Goldman Sachs, Former CEO of MF Global (a former Primary Dealer), and "FORMER AMERICAN".

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 15:38 | 2610833 Bansters-in-my-...
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!!!!...Free Jon Corzine.....

Bithch slap  Little fucking weasel Timmy G ...!!!!

And Fuck Benny B....!!!!!!!!

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 16:54 | 2611090 Cole Younger
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Investing has risks...everyone knows that...This just one example of it...more to come I am sure....

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:28 | 2610393 Cognitive Dissonance
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"we're just hearing rumors; it could be, on a percentage basis, worse than MF Global."

Rumors are often used to condition us for the coming disclosure of the existing reality.

What deeply saddens me is that it appears that PFG received some block transfers (about 700+-) of MFG clients. So some have been raped twice. Very sad indeed.

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 15:42 | 2610844 terryfuckwit
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Yes and rumour has it Gordon Brown sold half of all the uk's silver to bail out the short position of a large American bank. Gordon was promised the uk would be last in the que for a bond price shagging by the big boys when the crisis came...

You couldn't make this shit up...

but i just did!!

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:27 | 2610402 the not so migh...
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I heard a rumor we are fucked.

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:27 | 2610407 Matt
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Bullish!

That'll boost confidence and get more money back into the market for sure.

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:28 | 2610414 lsbumblebee
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Why is CNBC reporting this? Has Becky finished having oracle sex?

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 14:02 | 2610535 azzhatter
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she had 3 dickles in her mouth this morning although Sorkin took over on Buffett for a while

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:29 | 2610418 Concentrated po...
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Fuck you Corzine!

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:29 | 2610420 HardwoodAg
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Suicide...liquidation only....RoFLMFAO

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 13:42 | 2610470 Thomas
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Diamond definitely worthy of a forced liquidation

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