Citi Joins Goldman And JPMorgan In Settling Fraudulent And Misleading CDO Practices: Wristslap Costs $285 Million

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Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:38 | 1789067 AngryGerman
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what they do? CDOs? no idea what that is

(memory loss due to BS overflow)

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:53 | 1789146 gojam
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Shit filled donuts.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 12:07 | 1789201 Unprepared
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JUSTICE: A dish better served hot

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 12:18 | 1789266 metastar
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CDO = Trinity, Death, Destroyer of Worlds.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 14:08 | 1789689 Race Car Driver
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Option Three

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:57 | 1793999 sqz
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Actually, justice may not yet be fully served. Consider,

Goldman fined $550 million. Reason: not telling investors in the Abacus CDO deal that a hedge fund run by Paulson selected some of the assets as well as shorted it.

Citi fined $285 million. Reason: for selling a CDO deal to clients on which it then actively took a short position for its own book. Citi made $160 million profit from this deal.

Why the discrepancy? If all else is equal, either Goldman Sachs was massively overcharged for a lesser crime or Citi got off very lightly for a much more economically damaging crime.

Apparently, the famous Judge Jed S. Rakoff (famous for being one of the few judges who took a government regulator to task for going soft on financial institutions) may be about to look at the case ...

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:53 | 1789147 Pladizow
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What's the difference between a bank and a kinky shepard?

Nothing - They both fuck the sheep!

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 13:04 | 1789438 eatthebanksters
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turds painted with fake gold...

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:40 | 1789080 mjk0259
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Less than 1% of profits on same. Should be RICO'ed.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:52 | 1789131 stirners_ghost
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Or you could measure it against the $300B in bailouts and guarantees to keep them afloat after they blew themselves up with this nonsense.

That's ~0.1%.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 13:02 | 1789429 karzai_luver
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yep, out of this world sad.


And, you can measure it "somehow" by the ongoing Bernanke bailouts that keep them afloat to this very HOUR!


Just us  bitchezz. no bankster left behind.


Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:41 | 1789087 The Big Ching-aso
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Fat Cats will do whatever's necessary to stay fat.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:41 | 1789092 disabledvet
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Again "they're called dwarfs" not midgets. There's a difference.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:43 | 1789096 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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Who gets the money from the fine?

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:54 | 1789153 Pladizow
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It's deposited in the bank!

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 12:03 | 1789172 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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This whole financial 'system' is a scam upon a scam upon a scam, wrapped in a ponzi scheme that is a daily shell-game to inspire a condifence trick.

The only honest thing about this system is the toil of the peoples labor... the wealth generated by their labor is then stolen by the system to be used against them so they have to toil some more.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 12:42 | 1789267 Bob
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I get the feeling that when people speak of theft of people's labor, they're speaking primarily in terms of the recent past, present and foreseeable future. 

Yet the fact is that accumulated present wealth represents the labor of humanity since its beginning.  The accumulated wealth of our species over thousands of years. 

Everything we've ever built over all our history to date. 

Could crime get bigger than that?

At what point do we recognize something like this as a World War of the banksters upon the rest of humanity?

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:43 | 1789097 Strike Back
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Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:43 | 1789102 texpat
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This is utter fucking bullshit, but may in the long term be worth it, since the only possible reaction is to come out into the street.

#OWS #ThisIsWhy

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:44 | 1789106 Cheyenne
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Crime pays when you're a welfare bailout bank unable to compete.

And people wonder what fuels the OWS movement. Really?

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:46 | 1789113 junkyardjack
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The working man's a sucker

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:48 | 1789126 The Big Ching-aso
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And some suckers are working on men

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 13:07 | 1789441 karzai_luver
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and just think, try really hard, to think of what would NOW be required to change any of that type of scam.


There are the deluded and the bankster/corrupters that will say, just enforce the laws, well there you go , now that's all behind us, right? the LAW being all enforced and stuff like dat!


ho HA bitchexxxxxxxzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:51 | 1789129 Deadpool
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that's $988,600,000,000 all totaled with BofA and Wells still to go...where is all that money piling up? SEC? FDIC (I wish)? Fed?? "which will be returned to investors"?!? so they get made whole and the banks issue a new preferred to cover it! outrageous.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:51 | 1789134 dick cheneys ghost
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Banksters dont know how to prosecute Banksters.............

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:52 | 1789141 A_MacLaren
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And another criminal earns billions on its crimes, as one of the deferred costs of doing business is subsequently realized.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:52 | 1789143 Racer
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The more they get away with things like this the sooner and more violent the Revolution will be

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:54 | 1789155 tocointhephrase
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Keep on occupying! No justice no peace!

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:55 | 1789158 lizzy36
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If memory serves 2010 total US banking bonus pool was just slightly north of $30B. So assume about $100B over the last 4 years.

So all these "wrist slaps" account for about 1% of total bonus pool.

Any which way one looks at it, it is a pretty cheap cost of "doing business".

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:58 | 1789169 Racer
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the 'business' of running a pyramid scheme, running a  racket, stealing money from taxpayers, pimping debt slaves

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 11:56 | 1789162 Gubbmint Cheese
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So $285m in fines.. but how much did they make on the original sin? A few billion? Dear SEC: When the 'fine' is less than the amount made on the trade, its called "commission".

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 12:00 | 1789175 The Limerick King
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Injustice has reached a new peak

It's a lie each time Oligarchs speak

With Kleptocracy growing

The blood will start flowing

The earth will be seized by the meek




Wed, 10/19/2011 - 12:07 | 1789200 UP Forester
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OT:  Did I just miss it here, that the DOE is contracting out MiniTru duties, and memory-holing prior press releases stating SunPower got $1.187 Billion in loans and replacing it with NRG getting the funds?

I saw it on CNBS, so it must have been here at least a week ago.  The PR that Winston changed was dated April 12th, so I could have missed the ZH article....

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 12:08 | 1789209 dick cheneys ghost
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Rand Paul questioning Timmy yesterday............must see......

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 12:10 | 1789229 bankonzhongguo
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Face it.  All these "fines" are being paid with POMO profits.

They are out nothing. 

We are still out everything.

They will bailout banks, manipulate balance sheets, instill regulatory protections, but they never forgive one penny of one undischargable student loan debt or mortgage arrears.

That is the world we live in.

Debt slaves.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 12:10 | 1789231 Bob
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Textbook criminal fraud. 

The psychopath that is the Corporate Person needs some laws to keep him in line.

How about a "Three Strikes" sentencing rule for habitual corporate criminals that will revoke the corporate charter on the third felony by executive management?

If it works for petty addicts and thieves, it seems only fair.  If corps are real people, shouldn't we treat them as such?

I could see boards finding Jesus with that one.

Otherwise, finding Him at the end of a rope is inevitable, imo. 


Wed, 10/19/2011 - 13:55 | 1789618 NotApplicable
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Hell, the whole point of state business charters is that a business could be dissolved with a single strike, if warranted.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 14:17 | 1789720 Bob
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Aside from unleveling the playing field in favor of big capital. 

When is Ron Paul gonna come out against the government "interference" that legitimizes this insanity?

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 12:13 | 1789246 DollarDive
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How about giving that money back to the middle class - Thiev'en bastards.  I never understood these settlements with banks and governments.  The government takes money from the "private" companies, effectively taking it from shareholders.  Does any of that money ever see its' way back to the customers ? Complete banking cartel bullshit.  Banks and Governments have each other's backs.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 12:17 | 1789263 Jena
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Bank Transfer Day November 5th, 2011


• Research your local credit union options  (or community bank, if applicable)

 • Open an account with the one that best suits your needs

• Cancel all automatic withdrawals & deposits

• Transfer your funds to the new account 

• Follow your bank's procedures to close your account on or before 11/05

• Spread the word! 


Bank Transfer Day encourages supporters to close their accounts just as they opened them-- independently, with respect and without signage. When asked why you're closing your account, feel free to be frank. Calmly communicating your reasons for closing your account are vastly different from causing a public disturbance. While we understand that many of you feel very strongly about this, please remember that the employees at your local bank branch have no control over the structure of their company. As banks are private property, signage or a group demonstration will likely result in your being asked to leave. If you refuse, you can be arrested for trespassing. Let's keep this peaceful & legal!


Why Was BTD Started:

 The Durbin Amendment is an add-on to the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (Public Law No. 111-203), signed into law by President Barack Obama on July 21, 2010. The Act allows the Federal Reserve to regulate debit card interchange fees of banks with over $10 billion in assets. Over the summer, the Fed released the final rule on the matter by limiting debit card interchange fees to a maximum of 21¢ per transaction.


In response, these corporate-level banks have decided that beginning early 2012 any consumer with less than $20,000 in combined accounts will be charged a monthly $3-5 fee if they use their debit card at any point during the month. This new fee clearly targets the impoverished & working class. After endless research, the organizer concluded that her money would be put to better use on the local level through not-for-profit credit unions.


• With the Durbin Amendment in effect, banks will still make 19¢ profit per processed transaction [*1]

• The average consumer uses his/her debit card 24 times per month [*2]

• Without the additional fee, Bank of America stands to turn a $3,228,480,000 annual profit from its 59 million customers' debit card transactions [*3]

• Without the additional fee, Wells Fargo stands to turn a $2,626,560,000 annual profit from its 48 million customers' debit card transactions [*4]

• Without the additional fee, JP Morgan (Chase) stands to turn a $4,924,800,000 annual profit from its 90 million customers' debit card transactions [*5]


The organizer, Kristen Christian has said, "I started this because I felt like many of you do. I was tired-- tired of the fee increases, tired of not being able to access my money when I need to, tired of them using what little money I have to oppress my brothers & sisters. So I stood up. I've been shocked at how many people have stood up alongside me. With each person who RSVPs to this event, my heart swells. Me closing my account all on my lonesome wouldn't have made a difference to these fat cats. But each of YOU standing up with me... they can't drown out the noise we'll make."











Wed, 10/19/2011 - 12:21 | 1789282 Schmuck Raker
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" It is unclear if the Citi fine used will be courtesy of FDIC-backed TLGP notes still on Citi's books. Either way, justice is now "served." "


This reminds me of some of the charming traditions encompassed in Sharia Law. Especially the stoning of rape victims.

The US taxpayer now playing the part of the heroine.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 12:25 | 1789296 Mr. Lucky
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I have to ask; are the fines deductable?

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 12:35 | 1789332 lunaticfringe
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There is absolutely nothing that pisses me off more than watching our worthless government extorting some fine money from bankers. Wrist tap. The crooks don't get prosecuted, government grabs some BS headline and pretends that they have done something. The government is not the victim. Government is a co-conspirator. Stealing a few million here or there does nothing to restore the millions of Americans that are the victims. What a fucking sorry ass country we've become.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 13:05 | 1789439 slewie the pi-rat
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so there is gonna be a trial for the 'litigation' against stoker

but no criminal charges?

he'll probably countersue them (as an "agency" and as individuals) and win! 

seriously, tho:  if these acts and actors weren't "regulated by the SEC" they would be up on RICO charges, right?  this is respectability!  if you and i and some other pirates cooked up something like this, everybody involved would get shaken down. including spouses, children, and pets

so, stoker is the fall guy, the patsy, the sacrifial lamb, and he will be very well cared for, since he frees everybody else involved to enjoy their careers!

what a country!


Wed, 10/19/2011 - 13:14 | 1789463 karzai_luver
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shame on you for giving the bottom line in public.


Once again the horrible for biz "REGULATIONS" seem to work out very well for those who wrote and funded them.


How could I have known that?



Wed, 10/19/2011 - 13:16 | 1789478 eatthebanksters
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Here's the analogy of TBTF banks and the Fed and guv'ment continued attempts to support their corrupt ways...the TBTF banks are the drug dealers dealing the worst shit, heroin and oxycontin, the real bad stuff.  They have done a great job of creating a society where 99.9% of the people are addicted to their product with explicit and tacit government approval.  The Fed is the senior management of the operation.  What the Fed and the Government and the TBTF banks are worried about is lack of supply.  With diminishing supply they lose money and junkies go nuts without their fix.  It's pretty clear that the supply has diminished and what is out there is being hoarded by the dealers...the junkies are starting to get uncomfortable and you are seeing them in action.  And just in case the dealers decide to water down the product (inflation) then the junkies will revolt as well.  This scenario has no happy ending.  The world is about to go through severe withdrawls.  Kyle Bass said it best recently when he said that we can manage a painful restructuring or g through a very painful involuntary restructuring.  Methadone or cold turkey, those are the only choices. Either way we're fucked.

Eat the Banksters!

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 13:49 | 1789595 williambanzai7
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This news comes out and the media will continue working on characterizing OWS as a radical latte sipping socialist hippy commie anarchist movement engaged in a war on wealth and according to the latest, anti semitism.

Wall Street 3
Justice 0

Why is it so surprising people are furious.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 15:14 | 1789967 Hephasteus
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I bet they still don't buy any bloomberg terminals.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 15:34 | 1790047 theprofromdover
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If you don't 'admit or deny' the allegations, then surely the case isn't closed; and can be re-visited at any point in the future.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 15:47 | 1790102 Bansters-in-my-...
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285 BILLION $Dollar fine and NO ONE gets charged even...????


The USA needs a justice department.

NOT pervs watching porn.

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