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Class Warfare Blowback: Majority Of Americans Want Obama Out
The ever-eloquent populist-in-chief has just turned an important corner. It seems that the clear class warfare escapades he has been engaging in recently have backfired as, according to a poll by Associated Press-GfK, a majority of adults, 52 percent, said Obama should be voted out of office while 43 percent said he deserves another term. This confirms the report from the previous Gallup poll, that our President heads into election year with a significant problem: "Heading into his re-election campaign, the president faces a conflicted public. It does not support his steering of the economy, the most dominant issue for Americans, or his overhaul of health care, one of his signature accomplishments..." While understandably the party preferences bias for and against, it is the Independents that must be the greater concern as "The president's standing among independents is worse: Thirty-eight percent approve while 59 percent disapprove." Given the fact that its-the-economy-stupid, we wonder just how long the entirely independent and sacrosanct Federal Reserve will remain on the sidelines, or is QE3 coming Jan 1st?
From TIME magazine article: Poll: Obama Re-Election Odds About 50-50
The economy remains a source of pessimism, though the poll suggests the first positive movement in public opinion on the economy in months. One in five said the economy improved in the last month, double the share saying so in October. Still most expect it to stay the same or get worse.
"I suppose you could make some sort of argument that it's getting better, but I'm not sure I even see that," said independent voter John Bailey, a 61-year-old education consultant from East Jordan, Mich. "I think it's bad and it's gotten worse under (Obama's) policies. At best, it's going to stay bad."
Despite the high rate of joblessness, the poll found some optimism on the economy. Although 80 percent described the economy as "poor," respondents describing it "very poor" fell from 43 percent in October to 34 percent in the latest poll, the lowest since May. Twenty percent said the economy got better in the past month while 37 percent said they expected the economy to improve next year.
Yet plenty of warning signs remain for Obama. Only 26 percent said the United States is headed in the right direction while 70 percent said the country was moving in the wrong direction.
The president won a substantial number of female voters in 2008 yet there does not appear to be a significant tilt toward Obama among women now. The poll found 44 percent of women say Obama deserves a second term, down from 51 percent in October, while 43 percent of men say the president should be re-elected.
About two-thirds of white voters without college degrees say Obama should be a one-term president, while 33 percent of those voters say he should get another four years. Among white voters with a college degree, 57 percent said Obama should be voted out of office.
The poll found unpopularity for last year's health care overhaul. About half of the respondents oppose the health care law and support for it dipped to 29 percent from 36 percent in June. Just 15 percent said the federal government should have the power to require all Americans to buy health insurance.
Even among Democrats, the health care law has tepid support. Fifty percent of Democrats supported the health care law, compared with 59 percent of Democrats last June. Only about a quarter of independents back the law.
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Super sharp!
The response of the crowd chanting "Death to Israel" " Death to America"
was misinterpreted too.
We may be fuking stupid, but no one is stupid enough to buy your brand of pro caveman bullshit.
Why did that get junked? He's right...
What happened with Paul and Hannity? Link please!
Your are right. We are doomed because fools such as yourself are really trying to make a distinction between "My mood i'm in a jihad" quoting the Khomenei and saying the same thing. He says that the regime of Isarael needs to be wipe of the map. So you think that if just the "regime" of israel were to go away that those peace loving mu-slimes would live peacably with the jewish people. When he referes to the American regime as the great satan what do you think he is referring to, just the gov't? What WORMS such as yourself show is your lack of appreciating that when someone says they want to eliminate you i take them at their word. Idiot like you want to talk to them and find out what we did to upset them when they have been telling you for hundreds of years. You are and infidel and if you don't convert...we kill you. No grey area about that. Except for you, and its thinking ,if you want to call it that, such as yours is why we are doomed. Remember, Obuttfuck said he wished to extend a open hand and not a clinched fist. that clinched fist is about forearm deep up his ass which is where he wants us. Our dear leader Barack Houssen Obama...mmm, mmm, mmmmmmmmmmm!
Esculent 69 proudly trumpeted his ignorance thusly:
Muslims and Jews have lived together peacefully for centuries. The view that they've always been at each others' throats is historically inaccurate and is of recent vintage. During the Crusades, Moslems would shelter and protect their Jewish neighbors from those peace loving "Christians".
The Iranian people generally admire the American people. They fear and distrust the American government. Considering the track record of US government meddling in that region, that position is entirely rational.
Really? Did you know that Iran has the largest Jewish community of any Moslem nation? Did you know that after Khomeini returned to Iran in 1979, he issued an edict that the Jews in Iran were to be protected? Of course you didn't, because the people who tell you what to think didn't want you to know that. If you click on the link below, you can read all about it. Of course, you won't read it because the people who tell you what to think have also told you that they are absolutely correct about everything. However, I've included the link as a courtesy to those who seek to escape ignorance.
http://www.sephardicstudies.org/iran.html
If you're talking about the interior of your cranium, then you've found a point upon which we can both agree.
Warm up the printer, buy bags of nickels and pass me the popcorn.
Addendum; JUST GET HIM OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE> IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN IMPEACH HIM?
Geez, just because Biden lost!
How can anyone beat Obama's acheivement of killing more people than any other Nobel Peace Prize recipient? Hell if he doesn't get re-elected then maybe Ripley can give him a place in their world records. The Bernank can have mention beside him for stealing the most money out of any banker.
Daddy when I grow up I want to be President of the United States so I can get my name in Ripley's. Son take those fake vampire teeth out while you're talkin to me.
LOL
To be honest though, he killed most of those people after winning. I wonder.. where does Kissinger rank?
Ninth Circle of Hell (Treachery).
Heard he even got kicked out of there!
pods
He didn't get kicked out, he left because he heard there was an arrest warrant out due to war crimes....
"How can anyone beat Obama's acheivement of killing more people than any other Nobel Peace Prize recipient?"
Nobel associated with Kid Dyn-o-Mite...I swear, you can't make this shit up...lol.
Good news if true, but I'm sketical. Despite his piss poor performance, I still think the election is Obama's to lose--if only because the MSM is in his pocket.
If more people realized the virtues of freedom, Liberty, and personal responsibility then the MSM would have less effect. It's those wanting something for nothing and the Obama promising something free for everyone is what gets him and his ilk elected.
And if the Obama (or any socialist) were to give you something free for your vote, then why wouldn't it be expected that he give what you earned(up to all if he could get away with it) to someone else, like maybe bankers and other mobsters? You socialist just don't think this far, or worse, you like it in the feed pen.
If you think Obama is a socialist then you'll fall for just about anything.
If you think Obama is not a socialist then you'll fall for just about anything.
You sir, are a moron.
Let's see if I follow Saul Lewinsky correctly. Paraphrase 'Don't attack the truth because you will always lose. The idea is to attack and vilify or make stupid the messenger.' Works for him.
So, what's the difference between a Socialist, a Communist, a Fascist, a Corporatist or a Globalist?
They all want the power to control the masses, all they do is go about it by (slightly) different methods.
Which do you prefer?
All the 'ist' you mention are the enemy of individual freedom. The only thing we have standing in their way is the U.S. Constitution, and most of it has been destroyed already. When what few freedoms remaining are gone and all the 'ist' have won, the warnings of the Founders would have come true, and we will be left with tyranny.
The difference is none of those work in a free market capitalistic society that when someone fails they fail, not get bailed out by the gov't. The gov't involving itself in the private market has ALWAYS FAILED....ALWAYS. name me the gov't program that gave you the iphone, and no it wasn't al gore.
your 'saul lewinsky' post proves you have no idea what you are talking about.
read up you dumb fuck, then get an idea, if you can comprehend.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky
'Rules for Radicals' is where my paraphrase came from, written by Saul Alinsky. Read it for yourself.
"read up you dumb fuck"
Class. Real class.
Morons like TV. If you watch it then you are supporting the elites who have made you a serfs. But di*kheads like their HD ball games and other HDnonsense.
He's right. Look what television has done to Freddie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBHEKFxPb7c
My point w/Freddie and ding dong....you can't fix stupid.
"because the MSM is in his pocket"
Oh, right, because, well, because it's the "liberal media."
Where the fuck do you people come from?
Here, try this correction:
"because he's in the MSM's pocket"
The fucker's a puppet, puppets DON'T pull strings!
right
+ it is Corporate media. There isn't a single television network that isn't owned by a conservative corporation.
Watch those idiots on sunday, how many democrats do you see?
And yes, I think they are pussies for not making a stink about it.
GE is conservative...?
jack welch and immelt = very fucking conservative. Invented outsourcing.
immelt is a life long republican.
Just because billo makes GE a target hardly means they are a liberal bastion, and don't bring up msnbc with out mentioning cnbc which is a fox business clone and totally right wing.
I don't care about maddow, schultz, sharpton or o donnell, when they also have mrs. greenspan, scarboro and david 'I dance behind karl rove' gregory.
'Meet The Press' is totally conservative, gregory always has right leaning beltway hacks, russert was dik cheney's 'go to' person when he wanted to leak.
GE is a war profiteer, who got bailed out after the meltdown for GMAC imploding.
So,m yes, GE IS conservative
If only our politicians were as straightforward as Kyle Bass........
Would that be utopia?
Obama will be re-elected. Mark my words.
And if he is not, then, how long do you think it will take him and his wife to convert to Islam, after blaming an unfair/unjust 'system'. I give it a couple of years.
The only class warfare Obama has engaged in is in protecting the 1% while it wipes out the middle class.
In other words, he's fought the Republican fight for them.
It's NOT about "left" v "right," it's about POWER. They only brand themselves differently, just two "different" products; both, however, rake in huge profits for their companies.
You can't possibly believe Obama is wiping out the People because he is fighting for the Republicans. Now you might say that statist(labeled Dem or Rep) have the same goals and in the statist cause he is wiping us out.
Newt, is that you?
Taking your temperature now to determine what your health will be in 11 months is ludicrous. How many Presidents have been in a similar position nearing the end of their first term, yet went on to win a 2nd term? Reagan, Clinton and Bush 2 come time mind.
The vote will come down to independent women voters, as it has since 2006, at least.
Put my name at the top of that list. Thank you.
P.s. Dr Ron Paul Rocks
Status quObama is a joke. It is hillarious to think back on his "Hope and Change" drones of 2008. I'm not talking about his centrist supporters that voted for him merely because McCain was a joke. I can't believe that even amongst that group of troglodytes, and brain dead lefties, that there can still be 43 percent of the population that believes this guy deserves another chance.
I have been watching the money bomb on Ron Paul's site today. His goal is $4 million. He is currently just under $2 million. Just think of the difference between the people that have gotten RP to that $2 million mark compared to Obama's supporters of 2008. Those handing their money to Ron Paul have no illusions that he will create Eden here on earth the way the Obamobots did. He will not pay our mortgages or gas up our Hondas. In my opinion they merely believe that supporting somebody that is honest and stands firm for his beliefs is worth sending a few spare bucks away. A man that does appear to stand for the Constitution (even though he's not a professor of constittutional law - chuckle, chuckle) is worth giving some support.
My hope for January is for RP to win in Iowa and have him continue to be a healthy and safe individual. I believe we all fear for Mr. Paul's safety if he wins the nomination. Lately, I have been thinking that RP is kind of like Obe-Ron-Kenobi. Even if he were to pass from this mortal coil he will continue to have a huge influence on a lot of Jedis out there. His work will not pass with him. Maybe I am kidding myself but I don't think so. He will be like Truman on steroids, where future politicians try to attach to his legacy. "May the force be with you, RP."
What difference does it make which stooge the banksters stick in there ? Talk about hope and change.. Ok lets all hope we get some real change lol yea ok
@West Village Idiot
Peggy Joseph just called to say that if Ron Paul won't pay for her gas & mortgage them don't expect her vote...
Until we get money out of politics, it just doesn't fucking matter, it's all a dog and pony show. Even if RP wins, he won't be able to do shit. At best he wakes a few more people up.
Start worrying about corporate personhood, not which puppet gets the leading role.
Not to defend the most likable puppet in the house of reps, but the executive does have a bit of sway in the make-up of the court that could fix the personhood abomination, or did you think we'd manage to get an amendment through?
Indeed. I can only hope we can get an admendment somehow. It will probably have to happen via the 2/3rds state National Convention method. The congress route is about as likely as Santorum getting elected.
We're so fucked...
Until we get money out of politics, it just doesn't fucking matter, it's all a dog and pony show
Some may argue that the real politic-ing begins the moment we remove the corndog from our pieholes...
what is it, maybe 48% of americans are on the federal/state dole one way or another? and about that number pay no income taxes. so no, its not hard to believe he still garners 43%. the problem with the voting public is systemic - nearly half of the citizenry has finally discovered they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury (Tocquevile's warning about what will collapse a democracy).
until we have no representation without taxation we'll continue to have promises of a chicken in every pot. til the ponzi finally implodes.
exactly !
Something tells me few read your comment correctly.
Kudos anyway.
No taxation at all. Taxes are, and were originally for, warmongers. We should all be so lucky as to be vaporized by an Iranian missile than to continue to live in this bankrupt squalor. How dare you coxxukking neo-cons give lip service to fiscal conservatism while you enjoy your war on the world at at $1T/yr clip. Like you are going to eradicate every last fukking cockroach, then make the remaining cockroaches happy to likk your ass. Fukk em, and fukk you fools!
Except the people on the dole and thusly inclined are quite obviously not pulling levers, they are marginal at best.
You want to see a voting bloc? Try old people and churches.
By cracky! You made me hit the gas pedal instead of the brake pedal! Whippersnapper!
Even if RP wins presidency don't expect anything spectacular. He is just one person and it takes thousands in administration to change anything, his ideas will disapear in the mud of bureaucracy and opposition to change from those on the lower levels of administration. To change anything it takes generation or more!
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. - JFK
what is it, maybe 48% of americans are on the federal/state dole one way or another?
So that is retired, disabled+ 14 million unemployed, '45,753,078 Americans and 21,581,234 households use Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), more commonly known as food stamps.
Zero Hedge notes that much of the 1.1 million increase from April 2011 comes from the state of Alabama, in which food stamp usage shot up from 868,000 to 1,762,000.
There are no jobs, even flipping burgers.
'and about that number pay no income taxes. so no, its not hard to believe'
In that 'no taxes' part is the people who don't MAKE ENOUGH TO BE TAXED and the people and corporations who make so much, they avoid taxes. Also if you have corporations who get refunds instead of paying anything, GE comes to mind.
The country is larger, it costs more to deal with a larger problem than we havew been told there is.
This morass should have been called, and dealt with, like a depression. The corporations, and their media wing can afford to wait this whole thing out, and they will. Their patsy will take the fall for this, like they planned, and this quisling president gave them the rope to hang himself, he could have frog marched the banksters but chose to shield them and their accessories in government from accountability in the meltdown and the massive fraud and theft to the taxpayers
Well you can lie with numbers without context. Get you facts straight.
Yer kidding, right? People prefer to be poor so they can get a hand-out from the govt of a couple hundred $$ a month, stand in food bank lines, etc? They should go out and get a job, right?
There's a whole lot of people who use to have comfortable 6 figure incomes and nice houses in the 'burbs they owned for years that are now homeless, moved back in with mom and dad, etc. Just because you don't know any doesn't mean it's not happening.
This was planned, from a long time ago. Go read this: http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/sw4qw/
Sheeple come in all shapes, sizes, colors and economic situations. Just because you aren't there yet, does not mean you won't be someday soon.
If you aren't an elite, you'll be standing in the same line you now ostrasize and criticise. Multi-millionaires are being wiped out right and left, because they don't count in the elites. All you are doing is waiting in line for them to take you out, too, if you happen to be so fortunate to have that much.
They will take your dollars, your gold and silver, your guns and food - time is on their side, not yours.
That's the facts, Jack.
Obama is not a joke. Obama represents tragedy, it was Bush that represented comedy. But they're both the same under their masks.
This is a profound statment... Eyes wide open, good on you Crockett.
there be no shelter here
Amen, Crockett.
Now here's some more comedy. This poll means nothing, and unless RP is the Rep nominee, Obummer will kick any of the other candidates asses in the general election.
The poll is meaningless, because it's some one vs. no one. Insert either Romney or Gingrich for the no one and then see what the reuslts are.
Romney (Mormon, Wall Street Titan, corporate raider, destroyer of American jobs, believes corporations are people, supports socialized medicine, has taken both sides of virtually every position, and zero 'common touch'), and Newt (too many negatives to even bother to list), will be cut to pieces once the Dems crank up the propaganda machine. Plus, neither of them would bring any change to D.C. The rest of the pack, except Huntsman, coludn't get over 20% of the vote in a general election.
RP is probably the only candidate with a chance of beating Obummer, but does he have a chance to get the nod from the far right twits driving the primary votes? I guess we will find out soon.
Only Ron Paul can beat Obama. He appeals to what each party claims to be their core principles such as smaller government for the Republicans and personal freedoms for Democrats. Most people really want these things but of course no politician ever delivers on them. Ron Paul can and will deliver if given the chance.
The hardest part of the fight will be getting the nomination. The general election will be a hard slog as well but Ron Paul's honesty and humility are sure winners in my book.
So much to like about Ron Paul but I just can't get past his view on Iran. I respectfully think he is very wrong in his thinking there. His views on the economy, debt, the Fed, Bernanke, etc are so right it's easy to see why people will vote for him.
Then you don't understand TRUE foreign policy very well. You have been brainwashed by the Tavistock Institute and its mignions.
You MUST understand how war propaganda works...also false flag attacks, make believe bogeymen, the military/industrial complex and its relationship with Wall Street and the energy sector.
The REAL enemy is not lurking out there in some turban, it resides WITHIN our gates, as Cicero would remind you.
The BIG goal for TPTB in charge: Full spectrum dominance, a New World Order, and 90% less "useless eaters" on "their" planet. And I am NOT making this stuff up!
RP knows a thing or two. He said we can defend ourselves with submarines. The implication is a nuclear response to any use of atomic weapons by Iran against anybody. When our responses are limited to MAD, the ayatollas will get the memo.
It is about the $$$$.
All well and good, but Ron Paul would have us all dead or dismembered by our enemies before his first term was over. There are no good choices other than booting the Obummer and his spendthrift sidekick out of the White House.
Anybody but Obummer!
what an ingor fukking ramus
You Ron Paul guys got a screw loose. Half of you probably voted for Obummer, and now you think you found another "messiah". There ain't no promised land.
The neighborhood is getting rougher all of the time. If we let our guard down, everybody gets their throat cut. And all of his excellent ideas on the domestic side will be stillborn. And we will all be dead. The man has a fatal flaw in that he has a white flag planted in his left ear.
And he will appease China and Russia and have mullahs up his keister before his first year is out.
In case you Ron Paul guys did not get the memo we are voting primarily for Crisis Manager/CIC this time around, not budget guru or social engineer.
Ron Paul groupies would rather have America DEAD right. Sorry that does not cut it for my family. Masochism when it comes to survival is better kept to individuals rather than societies.
Ron Paul groupies would rather have America DEAD right. Sorry that does not cut it for my family. Masochism when it comes to survival is better kept to individuals rather than societies.
F
U
Tard
Let owebama be your crisis manager. I'll pass.
Alas not one of those you mention is in the neighborhood....
I support your right to be a flaming idiot, but you really do abuse the privelege. Just how are we going to be invaded by Iran or China? The neighborhood is no "rougher" then its ever been, its actaully a good deal safer then in the days of the old Eastern Bloc. Tell me, how is it that we managed to get through having a truly large and potentially dangerous enemy then without bankrupting ourselves and devolving into a police state and now guys like you you wet yourselves over the thought of angry goat herders now?
Its pretty easy these days to figure out which party the mentally ill will align with, dems get the foaming at the mouth bipolars and repubs get the pant pissing paranoids.
If you Ron Paul guys can't see the obvious growing threats to our lives and to geopolitical stability from Iran, North Korea, China, and Russia, I am not going to spell it out for you.
You are letting your hatred of many things blind you to the things that can kill you. We can always fight the police state encroachments as they come online and try to throw them back at a later date. But we will not have that chance, if we are dead. Evil exists in the world. And it just isn't here. And we are by far not the worst.
I see you Ron Paul guys as the flip side of the Obummer coin. And no matter how you call the coin, when it lands we end up dead or enslaved.
Live to fight another day. THAT will not happen with Ron Paul.
Sure, it may not happen with the rest of the field either. But such are the perilous times we live in. And I just as soon we not wimp out with Ron Paul whining in my ear.
I'm sure you have no idea how pathetic your ignorant, paranoid rants are. Chicken Little come home to roost. Are you Dick Cheney?
Instead of spending more than every other nation on earth combined on the MIC, maybe should double down. Would that make you feel safe? Sorry you live in such a fearful state of mind.
gnomon, raving and drooling, managed to bang out the following from his spittle encrusted keyboard:
You can't spell it out, because it's nothing more than a constantly morphing cloud of paranoia through which you perceive the world. Iran has never been a threat to the United States, North Korea is the geopolitical equivalent of a run down trailer park, and the only threats posed by Russia and China are economic.
Look in the mirror when you say that, and make it your first step along the path to recovery from mental illness.
That's a far more real and immediate threat to the United States than the vague, imaginary ones that you can't spell out. Why not leave your nebulous bogey men for a later date?
What do you mean by we? The phantoms which haunt your imagination are only threatening to you.
Yes, it does, and a significant amount of it emanates from inside the I-495 beltway.
Dude, the CONMedia (corporate owned news media) are serving you kool-aid through a firehose and you're drinking it all down. You need to lay off the television and talk radio before the media totally cut your tenuous grasp on reality.
The media are not your friend. They've reduced you to a quivering, incoherent lump of fear. For your own good, kick the media habit and stop drinking their kool-aid.
I read EVERYTHING, even the crap that passes for "intelligence" here. You Ron Paul guys think you are realists, when in fact you are still part of the Disneyland that you so deride. You see through the fact that the world financial system is irrevocably shattered while ignoring the historical consequences of such an event.
You Ron Paul guys can not MAN UP and smell the coffee. War is coming whether you like it or not, whether the U.S. or Israel initiates it or not. To have Ron Paul and/or Obummer at the helm of our military at this moment in our history would be (and is) absolutely suicidal.
Neither has the steel (and reputation) to possibly forestall the worst, to make an adversary, smelling blood in the water, blink.
It must be in your DNA, that is all I can figure out. How can you thoroughly understand one danger and ignore the other, (which always follows the first as Night Follows Day).
And since we are throwing insults here let me call you Ron Paul guys out as what you are, FOOLS. No adjectives need be added. The mullahs are laughing at you, and the Chinese are snickering.
Like someone who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing, you may read everything, but seem to understand very little.
You have said nothing that most people here don't already know - some to be true, some to be false. You just seem to be a paranoid delusional person, and more than enough time has been wasted here with your insecure, fearful rantings. There are plenty of things to worry about, but you are focused on the wrong ones.
gnomon continued his bleating and babbling:
Failure to spell out any specific threats noted.
By the way, if poor, weak, defenseless America is in such mortal danger, why aren't you worried about an imminent invasion and conquest by the Canadian Mounties? After all, Dudley Do-right is the head of a terrist al quayda sleeper cell; I assert this by way of psychotic paranoid ranting, therefore it must be accepted as absolute truth.
So you honestly think you can stamp out hate with violence? You like most neo-cons equate national security with multi-trillion dollar overt military marathons. The good doctor supports a strong military. But what he talks about as national security is stealth, surgical and cost-effective. And I guarantee you this - if RP fails, you will all have to contend with his son in the coming decades - a more articulate libertarian with an already HUGE backing at the start of his political career.
But, I leave you with this:
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
U.S. President Ronald Reagan
President Reagan, (our last real President and the only one worthy of having President always preceding his last name), is no doubt rolling in his grave in hindsight at that quote.
Watch 2012 unfold and tell me that I am wrong. And you are right. I wasted my time with you Ron Paul guys.
(And yes, Rand Paul is worth a second look. He is not a looney-tune, hand grenade with a haircut, Perot wannabe like his Dad).
what fuckin enemies, you retarded cretin?
Oh, you guys are in good form tonight. I am grinning from ear to ear. Finally got a rise out of you.
Cretin by definition is retarded, cretin is a bit outmoded and now we use idiot as lowest level of retardation.
Gee, everything I've heard about you guys is true. It is rare in this world when expectations are wonderfully met and all preconceived prejudices can be marked down as absolute truth.
Iran is the Saudis and Israel's problem. Let the Saudis fight Iran. Anyone posting anti Ron Paul shit does not know about 1400 years of very bloody conflict between the Shia and Sunni muslims. Iran hates the Saudis (sunnis) more than anyone including the Jews. The Saudis and Israel can handle it. We have our own energy here and we don't f**king need the Saudis or Kuwaitis. Get the lib tards (back by Saudi money) out of the way and the spice will flow.
just for the record "Huntsman" is a Mormon too(L). . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Huntsman,_Jr.#Religious_views
I would not classify Bush as comedian, maybe there was feeling of comedy to it but it was just first act of tragedy.
I classify most of what goes on in the D.C. island of outcasts as a FARCE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farce
Perhaps these divisions in political stances can be overcome by just listening to Ron Paul's last statement in this 3 minute vid. "Where does the fight come from?" Classic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTHLctk4aig&feature=related
Here's my take about the coming fight, its genisis and why it will be so if Ron Paul or some other Constitutionist does not hold sway. It is also in reference what I feel is a misinterpretation of the war as a "class war" rather than a war re-fought for Liberty, this in reply to Doc's leader: http://silverdoctors.blogspot.com/2011/12/heres-to-jim-beam-gold-silver....
Your comment; "we the people can't save them." strikes a very resonant chord.
We can be strip-mined of the fruits of our labour, tortured, incarcerated, brainwashed, enslaved and now legally murdered, however, we can't save them from themselves. It's in their own make-up, it's who they are; the sociopathically inconsiderate and opportunistic.
They have little perception of the damage they do because their focus is only on win or lose, a game to them.
Win or lose, money means nothing to them as it comes to them via their hierarchical position in the credit creation and expansion mechanism, not through labor.
This is where where the division lies. It's not a class battle, its a moral crusade that will end in war. War, because our money is a moral precept, earned and created through honest labor and principles, whereas theirs is contrived, created as needed, enshrined through fiat and enforced through judicial coercive power. The rules of the game are written in the banker's favour.
The cost of this credit expansion is loss of purchasing power of their money through wage garnishment via taxes and inflation. They use our labor to pay for their lifestyle. That's THE GAME.
No, we can't save them because its their game, they use our labor as part of their game, we can only save ourselves.
We need to figure out peacefully, how to end their game. The "peacefully" part is not in their game plan, so, to avoid the administrations of their coercive tactics mentioned above, a war of their making will have to be fought. It will take courage and moral convictions, something they lack.
I don't fear for Dr. Paul's safety, because if he wins, they will try and make him the biggest fall-guy EVER! Crash the market, destroy the remainder of the financial system, launch terrorist attacks everywhere, then sit back and let the plastic TeeVee people complain about his "isolationism." It's hard to work toward a peaceful, prosperous society when Armageddon has been unleashed.
Honestly, he represents the ultimate "get out of jail free" card for them. Now, this isn't to say they wouldn't prefer slowly absorbing the world's wealth with their own puppets in place, but you can rest assured, they've got the whole place wired to explode the instant they're kicked out.
Remember the first TARP "No" vote in the House? And the market's "reaction?" If the people speak, they will be bitch-slapped until they succumb to the mindless herd demanding that he "Do Something!"
You've painted quite the picture....and everything in me doesn't want to believe you could be right. But, sigh....I wouldn't put it past them either.
Such a sinister, rigged world these days.
Then we all need to be fall with with him. We will know them by their actions. We do know them.
Brother Al,
I prefer to think of it as rising rather than falling.
My first red pill moment came watching the aftermath of Katrina. Then another dose in '07 leading up to the crash. Taking that medicine was a painful and bewildering experience, especially when trying to share your new found state of "health" with friends or family. Most of these people don't want to be awakened, and will fight to stay in the system.
In '08 I gave up the opportunity to vote my conscience, and pulled the lever for McCain on the slim chance he could defeat Obama. My reasoning at the time was to gain more time to prepare for an inevitable collapse on a slightly longer time-line.
Never again.
Ron Paul 2012 or bust..... bitchez.
Much as I like Paul, this is precisely why I dont want him to win. The now unavoidable failure in the next term needs to hang squarely around the necks of the donkeys and elephants.
Gee, and it was OH SO different with GW Bush...
Amazing, the very media that ignores Ron is the same media that everyone is hoping to listen to Ron. Is this buying votes? Those fuckers are going to pocket the money and laugh at him and all of us. Fuck, the LOT of them stay in power because of the CFR, Chamber of Commerce and the Fed: these folks would round-up Ron and all of us together and dump our bodies in some Gitmo-like location.
Best thing that Ron could do is lure a ton of these folks together and let off a bomb of another kind. We'd be able to dispense with a whole cadre of clowns AND make Ron a martyr! Yup, guaranteed change!
The only campaign promise Obummer kept (obamacare) is rapidly becoming unpopular! Too funny.
Because once again, his promise turned out to be a lie. Didn't he say his health care plan would reduce costs? My premium went up 15% this year.
the indonesian citizen isn't even qualified constitutionally to be president. he was not born in the states...he is a usurper doing the bidding of his kleptocrat bosses who believe and know that the constitution is nothing but a goddamned piece of paper...
www.obamacrimes.com
You have to admit he has been good for the document forging portion of the economy.
And the TBTF financial institutions love him. That must count for something.
Best gun and ammo salesman i've seen too.
Change we can bereave in.
Mess: we can!
http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,803742,00.html
One more reason for him to GO>
What about african americans? Because last time I checked, they voted for him at 99% and last year still supported him at 95%.
But that's certainly NOT racism.
What. People who only vote for you because of the color of your skin? Only for the 5% who wont. These are the racist bastards.
Didn't MLK say something about not judging a man by the color of his skin but by the content of his character? Bwahahaha. I guess some people thought he was actually doing standup. I'm looking at you, Oprah.
MLK was full of shit. The content of black character has by and large been violence and mayhem.
They don't want to be judged for that, whitey always beez puttin them in da jayul and sheeit, nomesayin?
If equality was real, he might have had a point. Either way, we need more monuments toward him, more streets, more everything. He was the greatest person who ever lived...he invented dreaming. Along with everything else.
MLK was not FOS, but from a different time. He is about as relevant as Kennedy would be now. JKF, that is. Back in the 60's blacks wanted equal rights. Nowadays they want to be paid because one of their decendents was a slave, or because their 13 year old is getting ready to have her second baby.
My great-grandfather was a serf in the Russian Empire.
Where's MY reparations?
PS: I'm not looking for any.
Uhhh, you know I wasn't responsible for that, right?
You are a serf now. Keep watching TV because it helps enslave you and enpower them,
Go get them stupid niggers, Trav!
Sic 'em boy, sic!
PS: How do I give a poster 100 red arrows?
Answer: Red Arrow re-hypothecation!
Christopher Hitchens, you're still alive?
mr.content of his character,was being unfaithful to his wife, who stuck by him, through thick and thin. some paragon of virtue.
MLK was full of shit. The content of black character has by and large been violence and mayhem.
Your country has been at war forever. The violence and mayhem it has unleashed on its own and others has been on a mass, industrial scale, leaving an ocean of corpses and broken people in its wake. The product, mostly, of old, fat, white men, and the mostly white lumpen who support/have supported them.
ahhh yes, all those black generals & majors carrying out all those centuries of wars, those pesky black warmongers with their "violence and mayhem" - not to mention the banking class. . . sooo much violence & mayhem. . .
I don't care if people are racists, that's very ignorant and stupid being racist, but if you see Obama rape the country and continue to support him just cause he's black, that's not racism, that's idiocy of the highest order.
No, it's still racism.
To that 43%:
If you voted for Hussein Obama to prove you are not a racist, this time please vote for Ron Paul to prove your not an idiot!
Yeppers, re-elect Oweblahma. Vote RP! Be one of the 9%!
And of the people who voted for GW Bush, TWICE?
Listen, you're asking people that you're calling idiots to not be idiots? Ahem, who's the idiot?
They might have voted for Bush twice, but Bush was never elected once.
No; it's progress.
By definition, blacks cannot be racist. Yes, that is implicit in the word as defined by the person who coined it...a homosexual jew marxist.
Now Trav is just going from broke trying to re-hypothecate his own red arrows!
Visit Atlanta sometime. You'll love the non-racist blacks! LOL.
There are now more Mexicans, errr, Latinos in USA than blacks, errr, African Americans
That's some fancy counting for a white, ahhh-- Caucasian, ahhh-- European American.
But but but but...He's done sooo much and we have come soooo far. He deserves to finish what he started and wont stop until the New World Order, which is actually the old serfdom world order, is complete.
I need to become a knight of some sort so my word is as good as 6 peasants.
We are going to have a lot of peasants.
Why don't they just save us all from watching those horrible ads on TV and get this over with now.
Osama out. Send him back to law school, or some stupid ass unproductive role in todays world. Bring in RP. End the Fed. Fire Benocide. Demote Timmy to Chief Petroleum Transfer Tech for the Ron Paul motorcade (someone's gotta fill those gas tanks up!!). Send Barney Frank to Russia, and buy Nancy Pelosi a comb. Then DC will start to change.
B-b-but the Federal Reserve is independent! It's non-political, right...?
Give peace another chance. lol
Maybe he'll win another one of those Peace Prize thingies.
Myself, I've got six of them. The Nobel Committee keeps sending them to me in the mail for not invading the fuck out of Andorra again this year.
Who knew that a Nobel Prize was nothing more than a participation trophy?
Yeah, just got me one of those for breaking up a fight at school last year. I'm writing a book about it right now.
I got one for merely sparking up a jay, feeling peaceful, and, of course, my book: "The Audacity of Dope".
I'm glad the Nobel Committee doesn't revoke the prizes due to subsequent violence, because my next book, which is about Wall Street and TBTF bankers, is called "The Efficiency of Rope".
+10 funny..
Imagine that...All of the American's that fell for the "I will bring change to Washington" platform are upset that the virgin bride turned out to be a $2 hooker.
The unfortunate news is all of the contenders are $1 hookers.
There's a little hooker in all of us.
Look who's talking!
At that level of expectation, the difference between a $2 hooker and a $1 hooker is -- one dollar.
And one dollar can afterwards buy you a 32 oz soft drink at the 7-Eleven.
And that's a lot of soda so it's a great deal.
Double bag it, put a bag over her head. Then, go have your drink!
Rope,
He DID bring change, lots of it. We haven't begun to see the damage he wrought with Pelosi and Reid before midterm elections.
I see no significant difference between Obama's policies and Bush's policies and I can't imagine that things would be any different today had McCain been elected in 2008.
Given McCain's "work" on the NDAA, I'd argue things would be different -- worse, but only because he'd be working on a faster timetable to destroy the country that O is. I have no doubt they're both following instructions of the same master.
When OBama signs the legislation that was written by McCain at the administrations request, tell me theres a difference.