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Class Warfare Blowback: Majority Of Americans Want Obama Out

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The ever-eloquent populist-in-chief has just turned an important corner.  It seems that the clear class warfare escapades he has been engaging in recently have backfired as, according to a poll by Associated Press-GfK, a majority of adults, 52 percent, said Obama should be voted out of office while 43 percent said he deserves another term. This confirms the report from the previous Gallup poll, that our President heads into election year with a significant problem: "Heading into his re-election campaign, the president faces a conflicted public. It does not support his steering of the economy, the most dominant issue for Americans, or his overhaul of health care, one of his signature accomplishments..." While understandably the party preferences bias for and against, it is the Independents that must be the greater concern as "The president's standing among independents is worse: Thirty-eight percent approve while 59 percent disapprove." Given the fact that its-the-economy-stupid, we wonder just how long the entirely independent and sacrosanct Federal Reserve will remain on the sidelines, or is QE3 coming Jan 1st?

 

From TIME magazine article: Poll: Obama Re-Election Odds About 50-50

 

The economy remains a source of pessimism, though the poll suggests the first positive movement in public opinion on the economy in months. One in five said the economy improved in the last month, double the share saying so in October. Still most expect it to stay the same or get worse.

 

"I suppose you could make some sort of argument that it's getting better, but I'm not sure I even see that," said independent voter John Bailey, a 61-year-old education consultant from East Jordan, Mich. "I think it's bad and it's gotten worse under (Obama's) policies. At best, it's going to stay bad."

 

Despite the high rate of joblessness, the poll found some optimism on the economy. Although 80 percent described the economy as "poor," respondents describing it "very poor" fell from 43 percent in October to 34 percent in the latest poll, the lowest since May. Twenty percent said the economy got better in the past month while 37 percent said they expected the economy to improve next year.

 

Yet plenty of warning signs remain for Obama. Only 26 percent said the United States is headed in the right direction while 70 percent said the country was moving in the wrong direction.

 

The president won a substantial number of female voters in 2008 yet there does not appear to be a significant tilt toward Obama among women now. The poll found 44 percent of women say Obama deserves a second term, down from 51 percent in October, while 43 percent of men say the president should be re-elected.

 

About two-thirds of white voters without college degrees say Obama should be a one-term president, while 33 percent of those voters say he should get another four years. Among white voters with a college degree, 57 percent said Obama should be voted out of office.

 

The poll found unpopularity for last year's health care overhaul. About half of the respondents oppose the health care law and support for it dipped to 29 percent from 36 percent in June. Just 15 percent said the federal government should have the power to require all Americans to buy health insurance.

 

Even among Democrats, the health care law has tepid support. Fifty percent of Democrats supported the health care law, compared with 59 percent of Democrats last June. Only about a quarter of independents back the law.

 

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Sun, 12/18/2011 - 22:22 | 1990736 Element
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Trav,

There's a reason the Aboriginals were excluded from white society as well, and it's one we're not allowed to openly voice, but everyone always does, in private conversations.

It's basically this; aboriginals (Abo's) are generally filthy bludging destructive, ugly, drunken, abusive cretinous idiots, who literally stink worse than any group of human beings you will ever encounter, and are probably the most unhygienic culture/race on Earth today.

They will literally shit themselves, and think nothing of it, then expect and demand to be treated as an acceptable equal, with respect.

Google recent footage of how they CHOOSE to live - it's unbelievably disgusting - barely a caveman level of existence.

Then google the last 5 decades of hundreds of billions in Australian Federal and also State Govt budget allocations dedicated specifically toward their education, housing, health care and SS - all paid for almost exclusively by hard working Whitey wage-slave.

They also have not changed in the interim due to this, they still stink worse than ever, they still engage in the same intolerable anti-social anti-community behaviour, only now they're not excluded or removed from society any more, placed in remote far-flung regions or islands,

Now, they live literally under your balcony instead, and they create mayhem on a regular basis.

They are beyond the pale.

So naturally everyone has dealt with them DIRECTLY has come to re-hate-the-fuck-out-of-them, and dearly want them removed and excluded once more. This is no exaggeration, almost everyone you speak to in the real world feels they should be removed, for our good, and for theirs, because they are clearly unable to cope in a civilised culture, no matter how they are assisted, or how many leg-ups you give them.

They are in a cultural/racial death-spiral and damage the rest of us as they continue to crash and burn. The more they are surround a genuinely developed civil society the more they lose hope of functioning within it, and drink themselves into a miserable and early grave. People who don't encounter them DIRECTLY keep talking about helping them integrate and spending more tax-slave money, but those who do deal with them first-hand know its all for nought. They really are finished.

On top of this, the ones that do flourish all seem to have a significant and noticeable mixture of white genes. They appear more Whitey than Abo. In fact many of this group are just as whitey as me. But they vigorously claim Abo heritage and culture, even if only 1/8th Abo genetically, because that's where the free $$$, and the opportunistic free-ride is, on the tax-payer's back.

So now we're seeing a world failure of socialist systems, and return of aggressive nationalist sentiment, and the coincident total and undeniable practical failure of the ultra-expensive integrative racial liberalism and policy favouritism, with the emerging realisation that we separated ourselves from them for a reason, in the first instance.

And that all the reasons for exclusion, the first time, are still just as valid today, as they ever were.

The next predictable step over the next 25 years will be the systematic and compulsory re-exclusion of them from society, and the forced removal of immigrant degenerates flooding in from North Africa.

I spoke to a very experienced warrant officer in the Army recently and he made no bones about what the Army thinks of these people, and of liberal Govt policy that sets the country up to fail via these inclusive anti-discriminatory policies.

If a person is a criminal, you say they are a criminal.

If they stink, you tell the truth about this.

If they are wonton idiots, same applies.

If the common factor is genetic backgrounds, and humans live 70 or more years, then it's time to face the practical realities of this, and over a much longer time frame than ten or twenty years.

In other words, immigration 'policy' (i.e. of a govt) should not be a part of any 3 or 4 year long political-partisan discourse or cycle.

It should be that we face the practical realities of actual genetic frailty and flaw, and set course for a better situation to self-emerge, in a thousand years or so hence.

So that we forget about this absurd short-term 'liberal' immigration and multicultural integration policy baloney, and its ideological 'fashion'-changing.

These things should NOT be subject to or linked to the stupidity of short-term political fashion in 'policy'.

Below are some typical examples of the behavioural habits and attitudes of everyday mainstream Abos, and their typical means of 'existing'. This is certainly not even extreme, it's just a small sample of how they are, and what they do. And the fact that we're generally not like this, makes them hate us, and act in an abusive violent racist manners, especially when drunk, which is most days, until the copious welfare money is wasted. This is what the Australian tax-payer gets for their hard-earned endless contribution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jln00qCnoQs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=OHHkEnwPt6s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=yCsyTvr7ba4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xxRoZx-eq0U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=uVSPgJqYooQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0DhqSKIZQEY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=446XSEnBXNI

These people actually prefer to live in this disordered way. No matter what you do for them they revert to such squalid depraved behavioural traits, conditions, habits and poor health behaviours.  Then we're lambasted for why they die so young! And why they have no jobs and live in poverty and pure filth - by smart-arse international MSM, and UN big-mouth jerks and human rights idiots who have no clue about their typical habitual behaviours.

It's never their fault, oh no, it must be us!  But the Abo's are essentially unintelligent, destructive, smelly, filthy clans who prefer to live like wandering itinerant cave dwellers. They make a huge squalid mess any where they live. Give them a new air-conditioned house (literally GIVEN) and they will make it an uninhabitable sewer within a week or two. That's really what they do. We are a very generous society, and we've done everything possible to help them - it's not us.

It really is them!

We have to face this and get over the ridiculous thesis that they will improve themselves and their communities if we keep helping and spending vast sums on them, as it's very clear that they will not change, and the average tax-payer knows it. The wider society is increasingly simply refusing to treat them as equals, or to cut them any slack, or give them endless billions to squander in abject filth and degradation, because they obviously aren't equals, and they never will become equals, and we never can respect them - they are not respectable.

There's no point pretending about it any more. The truth is other less compassionate cultures would have wiped them out already, because they are clearly ill-equipped mentally and culturally to develop further. They are a failing off-shoot of the human genome, with a cave-man culture and a mentality that persists within them.

It's clear that the declaration of a "war on terror" has been roundly used by liberals everywhere as a blatant canard and excuse for the argument that immigrants are just fleeing despotic murdering moozlems in their home countries. So they have to cross dangerous oceans to get to far flung very remote Australia, because they couldn't have settled much more safely in Malaysia, or Indonesia, or East Timor instead. And actually, these countries know what these displaced people 'immigrants' are really up to, and want nothing to do with them and drive them out to end up in Australia. And we have morons like Kevin Rudd the geek, and Julia Gillard the zionist, and Bob Brown the insane greenie-homo humanist, who would just let any and all of them into this community.

The inescapable truth is something Australian tax-payers all know; These are people want free bucks and a free-ride in Oz, to milk tax-payers and our economy dry, as they breed up another larger generation of dependent parasites on the tax-payer tab. It's obvious the "war on terror" has been used to achieve that end of millions of non-integrating immigrants lobbing on us, as wonton global social and economic parasites, who will eventually have to be isolated, and forcibly driven-out via sustained discriminatory oppression, so they understand they made a gigantic opportunistic mistake, that the jigg is up, and they must flee back to their previous bled-out HOST.

Telling the truth, if it really is the truth, is not and never will be "racial discrimination". However, you should discriminate on the basis of actual truth - why on earth wouldn't you? It would be absurd not to.  You can't stop tax-payers thinking or saying these things, via simply issuing 'anti-discrimination' legislation, through a duplicitous Parliamentry system, that is recognised to be setting us up to fail.

When one of these parasitic immigrants tells a tax-payer, "You're racists, all Australian's are just racists!" . Yes, they do say shit like this, not because it's true in the first instance, it's just how these fuckers have learned to get what they want out of us, to shut them up - free money and a free-ride for life.  They call that wanting their 'freedom' ... we just call it what it clearly is, rank opportunism by a bunch of anti-social 'socialist' and usually fundamentalist 'religious' parasites, with a chip-on-their-sholder about their entrenched inadequacy and failures.

Eventually we'll look them in the eye and say, "Yes, inferior ungrateful parasites have turned our real compassion into actual racism - congrats! You did it. Now build yourself another boat, or buy a plane fare, and get out while you still can."

And the UNHCR and its ideological zealots, as wolves in sheep's clothing can leave as well - we see what they're really doing to a once orderly country and society. Good riddance to such ideological psycho-babblers, who ignore the ramifications of all the 'good' they do, in the name of a non-existent humanistic 'equality'. It's unfortunately unreal.

We may be one-world, we may be generated by the same infinity, we may basically be the same thing, and the same animal, but we have greatly varying make-ups, and potentials, and behaviours, and some groups clearly are not 'fit', or optimised for modern civil life, nor will they become fit.

So why should we remain in some social incompatible dead-end relationship?  Did the French not just remove Romany scumbags from France last year?  Are they not the dysfunctional white-trash 'Aborigine' of Europe?  Is this not why the Fascists exterminated and enslaved them where ever they found them in other parts of central Europe?  Did they not discriminate and create a NECESSARY separation of clearly incompatible peoples?  If I have a relationship with a partner that is not working out and is making us both unhappy, should we remain in it?  Or do we not go our separate way for our mutual best-interest?  It this not what defines nations and national characters?  Is mutual separation not the basis for recognising real differences and incompatibilities?  Why would we live together in a situation that's destructive, unfair and parasitic, making us deeply unhappy with the results?  Or to pretend the status quo is acceptable because of some failed false-ideal of ultimate human 'equality'?  Or that some real equality and compatibility will dawn upon enightened chimps, one day?

Did an Abo walk on the Moon? Have their culture created anything beyond stone tools and sticks?

So how can they be viewed as equal to those who have?

Unfortunately they aren't equal, they are substantially inferior in almost any measure.

Yes, it would be so much nicer to hope and to believe that we're going to live together in peace and harmony (and that Abo's will discover the joy of soap and basic hygene) because we are all in this together and therefore we must muddle on together - and I'd love to do that.  But we won't.  Even within the European social and cultural context it is not a monolithic people or culture that we see. There are recognisable differences and rankings of peoples, and of towns, and of regions within countries. There are historic traditional borders, and many endless sub-divisions, and for real and valid reasons.  It isn't just ideology or geography doing this. There are some people at work you don't interact with, or don't like, and would never mix with, or talk to, outside of work.

It's because you are BEING discriminating - not 'discriminatory'.  The UN and all that arrogant self-righteous muck so love to wield that supercilious word , 'discriminatory', as though it is a thought-crime to determine who the obvious fuck-ups are, or are most likely to be, and to wisely have nothing to do with them. Sometimes whole families and tribes of people are useless, destructive fuck-ups. And yes, we necessarily must be discriminating about that fact.

Borders separate different peoples and ways of doing things. These separations have been historically recognised to be a natural and quasi genetic/hereditary distinctions, and a separation of broad but subtle differences between adjacent peoples. The divisions suited the situation, but sometimes these change, to and fro.  There are also social classes within the same peoples, and even within extended families, with favoured children and relatives, and those not favoured or honoured.

This is ALL discriminatory behaviour! All sorts of it. And those doing it see it as practical, valid and natural, and sometimes it's just plain necessary to do it. To deliberately ensure certain antagonistic groups stay out of each other's path.

So is it possible to have a classless and truly equal society - other than in a dumb ideal and theory?  History is unequivocal on that - NO! And the level of absurd denial about that reality has been sewn amongst us, via the MSM, to create the imaginary prospects of a 'globalised' one-world Govt.

But it's going to tear itself apart again, and re-divide. The more you force incompatible peoples together, the more energetic and violent the re-divisioning will be. And that's going to be a horrific problem for all of us. And it was meant to be, from those interests who did it to us to create national and cultural weakness, or else eventual separation through mass violence. Perhaps the best we can do is agree to separate into a more stable territorial arrangement, rather than to react violently to the resulting incompatible multicultural mess.

Humans, being the way they are, I think it will be evilness and a great horror instead. I know it sounds terribly bleak, but I'm just saying what I see developing, over the next few decades. The chosen-ones of the elite intend them to be the ones left standing.

But the bottom line is; are humans themselves, as a whole, 'fit' to survive.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 19:43 | 1988812 Zadok
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Go Dr. Paul,  

I personally CAN handle the truth.  Tell it like it is.  Pull an Andrew Jackson, tell us why, who did it, and what it will take to fix it.  Depression, ugly but short compared to what would otherwise be.  I say try it!  I really think that is the only way!

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 19:47 | 1988817 High Plains Drifter
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i think it would last two generations  it took us two to get into this mess and it will take two to get us out. that being said, the sacrifice of the amerikans will be enormous and costly. when you look around you where you live, what kinds of people do you see?

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:39 | 1989046 Calmyourself
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Most of them are walking dead, they just don't know it yet..  I wonder how long it will be until they suspect it? Most importantly once that chaos comes and fully manifests itself and they know in their bones what is coming it is going to get ugly. 

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 22:01 | 1989101 Sathington Willougby
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It's time to trim the fat.  So bring the shit tough guy.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 19:17 | 1988740 navy62802
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Obama has been an utter failure and a disappointment. But he was doomed to this fate before he stepped into the White House. The economic situation that precipitated Obama's presidency ensured that whoever won the office would become the fall guy for the fallout of the 07/08/09 collapse. Of course, Obama's actions while in office haven't helped him, I think it's a stretch to suggest that he really had a chance in the first place.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 19:24 | 1988761 High Plains Drifter
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well just who is obama and where did he come from?  i assure you that almost all amerikans never even heard of this guy before about 2006 or so, whenever the jewish news media , on key, started the push for obama.........nobody even knew who he was and yet they voted for this guy. hope and change but got neither.   we amerikans are one sick foolish lot.................it is any wonder , that when asked , while coming out of the meeting for the constitutional congress, hey ben, what are you giving us, and what was it ben franklin said, a democratic republic if you can keep it. he must have known , as most of them did back then, that we could never keep such a pearl of great price........

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 22:00 | 1988924 Dr. Engali
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Obummer could have done the right thing and allowed the banks to collaps. He could have honored contract law and let GM go bankrupt. Instead he decided to bail out the banks,bail out GM and pursue that stupid ass healthcare bill, which by the way, those companies greasing the right palms are opting out of. He could have done the right thing but instead he took what he thought was the path of least resistance.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 23:08 | 1989233 nmewn
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First...everyone knows I rarely junk and didn't.

"But he was doomed to this fate before he stepped into the White House."

O'Bama campaigned for the office. If he was "the fall guy" he did so willingly. Would anyone consider this the move of a Hahhhvahhhd intellect?

"I think it's a stretch to suggest that he really had a chance in the first place."

He didn't have a chance because he's predisposed to what the real problem is. He chose academics and cronies, Giethner, Summers, Chu, Biden, Farrel, Kabaker, Goolsby and that detestable, ignorant as a stump Romer as his closest economic advisors & confidants.

He got exactly what he wanted or was advised on.

All thats left to decide is who screwed over who. Its pretty apparent there were/are no "Austrians" in that group...lol.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 00:06 | 1989374 High Plains Drifter
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have you ever junked robo?

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 19:22 | 1988752 Captnkirk
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i've written in Pauls name the last 2 elections Buba Bush left texas with the largest deficiet in it's history and guess what history repeated it's self and Cain spent to much time in the box in Hanoi. I salute him as a vet but he suffers from shell shock. What did any one expect of Bo he comes from the chigaco machine and the banks knew he was for sale.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 19:23 | 1988757 Georgesblog
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It doesn't matter what U. S. citizens want. They are Federal property. Obama is the president because, for the moment, he's the one the banks want. More importantly, he will follow instructions in the consolidation of world banking. That is, if he wants to continue as president. He is not unique. Central banks have been bringing people to power or knocking them down, for centuries.

http://georgesblogforum.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/the-daily-climb-2/

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 19:24 | 1988758 HD
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Obama rolled over and sold out - but...BUT who is going to replace him Newt? If the GOP can't nominate a credible candidate then it deserves to lose.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 19:34 | 1988792 Choose Sanity
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He lied to us, plain and simple and he will lose my vote and many others. He's proven to be no better than all the other liars who have gone before. He promised to be different but in many ways he's worse than those who went before. We are lost if we continue to forgive and forget.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 19:54 | 1988836 HD
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Thats the problem. All I wanted from Obama was affordable health care - he could have played with himself the rest of his term for all I cared. Health care is just as broken now as it was before - insurance companies  still decide if it's profitable to let you die or not. Losing my vote isn't the issue - who do I vote FOR? I'd vote for Paul or Huntsman but thats about it - and if Newt does get the nomination Obama WILL win.

And for any of you who haven't called your congressmen about SOPA - you might want to get on the ball.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 23:50 | 1989323 trav7777
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WTF is wrong with Newt?  At least we can hope he will shut the government down...he's definitely got it in him.

I think we should vote for him and DEMAND that he do it again!

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 10:19 | 1989699 psychobilly
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@Trav: WTF is wrong with Newt?

I think we should vote for him and DEMAND that he do it again!

lol.  You stupid troll.

I think you should get a real job.  Bottom-feeding loser.

 

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 19:27 | 1988762 Shizzmoney
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People voted (not I, Obama and the administrations actions vidicate that) for a guy who said during his campaign he'd support and push by 2012:

Public Option/Single Payer Health Care (We got Health Insurance controlled Mandated Health Care, worse thing ever.  Only good out of it is that your kid under 26 is now under your insurance)

Privacy for Amercians (We got less: SOPA, NDAA, TSA even stronger, Patriot Act is even stronger....even more than Bush!)

Unemployment rate at 6.5-7% (Not even close, U6 is at 15.9%, and the jobs people are getting paid net 15-20% less than what they were paid before 2008 Crash)

Close Guantanamo (Still open, US citizens maybe next in jail just for protesting their rights)

Get out of Iraq (he said 2009; got out 2011) and Afghanistan (2011...still there, even after
killing" bin Laden, wont leave due to Iran/Pakistan tension, and of course, opium trade)

End Corporate Raping of our Environment (Keystone XL Pipeline still on track, BPs epic fail)

End Corporate Welfare (Nope. See: Soylandra, For-Profit Colleges Loans bill, the Health Care Mandate, General Electric/BOA's huge tax breaks)

Go after fraud by Big Banks (BOA, GS, JPM, Citi execs still at it...and getting paid.  MF Global tip of iceberg)

Protect Social Security and Medicare (Both sides getting ready make cuts to it after 2012)

Online Poker (This guy shook the hands of big time poker players likk Phil Ivey, and online poker operators, at a swank Democratic Poker Fundraiser back in Jun 2008 in Denver, CO.  It was sponsored by the Poker Players' Association..which was backed by now defunct Full Tilt Poker.  After taking over 1 million in donations at the event, he promised them that online poker i nthe US would be safe.  By April 15th 2011, it was shut down by the government.)

Gays openly serving in military (ok, he got that one).

But really, it going to be funny when extreme liberals in November are going to be looking at the numbers still and go, "Geez, why isn't anyone voting for this guy?".  Goes to show, with the debacle that have been the Republicans debate, the joke the American political system has become.

 

 

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 20:58 | 1988967 Alex Kintner
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FYI.

Obama only pulled out of Iraq because Bush signed a treaty with Iraq promising US would be out by year end 2011. But Obama is taking full credit as if  he's finally earned his Nobel peace prize.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:20 | 1989008 heremynkitty
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Ssshhhhh, you'll disturb the great unwashed.....

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 19:27 | 1988768 vegas
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Never underestimate Repubs for shooting themselves in the ass and giving Soetero another term [God forbid].

 

http://vegasxau.blogspot.com

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 19:31 | 1988779 High Plains Drifter
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i think he is the man.............always have.   it is written........

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 19:58 | 1988843 Dr. Engali
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I honestly don't think the repubs want to win. I think they would be happy with this collapse hanging on Obummer's neck. Personally I don't think it could happen to a better guy. He is a liar and a cheat. He deserves his fate. If the repub establishment wanted it they would push for Ron Paul.
My opinion is that it doesn't matter. We are too far gone and nothing can stop the collapse. But I'd rather have a man with some integrity for the rebuild.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 20:07 | 1988862 High Plains Drifter
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i happened to be listening to the sean hannity show yesterday while i was in the car and karl rove was on there and he flat out said that there is no chance, not a snow ball's chance in hell, that ron paul will ever win any republican nomination. so there you have it..........

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 20:18 | 1988884 Dr. Engali
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Doesn't surprise me. They all know Newt is unelectable , too much baggage not to mention he is a hypocritical basturd . And Mitt is going to be crucified because He is Wallstreet.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 20:48 | 1988950 High Plains Drifter
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texe marrs has said he thought it was newt ........and he has a cogent argument. but however, even the dumb stupid amerikans are not going to go for that , as soon as someone starts bringing up the skeletons in newt's closet.........

and with mitt, the same thing.

 

so who do they have left?   

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:04 | 1989747 GMadScientist
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Remember when they submarined Gary Hart? Looks like a mirror image from where I'm standing and will end about as well for the Repugnican't Party.

How many here can remember that Newt was speaker when Glass-Steagall got whacked?

So hellbent on not "that one" that you're running into walls.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:02 | 1989798 High Plains Drifter
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gary hart had similar proclivities to bill clinton.   however , it was decided that he was not to be the man. and so it was.  they did the same thing to cain........notice how they destroy those who are not to be "it" ...........they will take off after paul if he is ever really taken seriously and/or they feel he is a threat. the only reason they have not messed with him much is that he does not have that much  baggage. with paul you get what you see and you see what you get. i am sure he keeps dickie in pants. never was his style. so they have to scratch off any blackmailing activities about midnight encounters etc.........and he is scrupulously honest.  so they can't move on him in that area. but believe me, in some way, politically or otherwise, paul has weaknesses and no matter what the paulistas want , i predict it will never happen.......the fed will never be audited. the fed will never be taken down. we will never ever have our own money system as envisioned by the founding fathers and it is mainly because americans will not and cannot abide by the amount of pain and self sacrficice necessary.......it is just that simple. The Bible says, in order to get something you have to give something, no greater love is there than a man lay down his life for another, etc.....i look around me and i see self absorbed narcissitic individuals whose only care in life seems to extend about as far as the end of the noses.........so i go to them and  i tell them what is needed and they laugh at me and call me crazy.........so it is, so it was, and so it shall be..........i say again, where is our george?

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:25 | 1989819 GMadScientist
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George...as in Washington? Won't happen again.

In his time, the role chose the men...these things get turned upside-down when you have a standing army for decades.

The Peter Principle attacks like a fungus and those with ethics and judgement move on whilst backbiting lifers remain behind to scurry for favor and authority.

Paul is being silenced as we speak and so can never be taken seriously by enough people to matter (love ya ZH, but you ain't got nothin' on the King Kong that is modern media in terms of sheep sway). Even if given the limelight, I think his honesty would backfire...it's never played well in rigged popularity contests anyway.

What good is auditing the Fed if the shadow banking system makes any numbers you find irrelevant trivia?

Luke 16:13

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 13:30 | 1989912 High Plains Drifter
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a lady friend of mine showed me her ira statement , while bragging..........look there is almost a million dollars in there.  see , she has faith in the system.  i told her.  i see numbers on a page.  where is the money?  i don't see it anywhere around here. she said. oh its there. i can get it anytime i want........i said...........yeh sure.............the shadow banking system?  man i would have had a hard time explaining that one to my grandparents.  that is something else i never learned in business school.  it seems like so many things these days are shrouded in mystery and opacity with things like the shadow banking system being the order of the day. the man behind the door calling the shots.   the hidden hand behind everything that is said and done by our elected officials.  ron paul perhaps is a man of integrity and honor and he harkens back to days gone by, when a man's handshake was his word..........he perhaps is a man living in the past, a man who moves by his principles.....a man of honesty...........therefore , he is not wanted in the present day murky world of modern day amerikan politics, where fools are bought and sold daily for a few shekels and where the shades of white and black and have been traded in for the color gray and where silly men walk around with rose colored glasses on, playing the great game of amerikan pretending.  yet no one out here or at least most out here in flyover country do not see things as they are and even when told, do not believe it.......such are the days of our lives now. a sad commentary on the last days of a dying nation.....they keep ron paul around as a relic of days gone by so they can see men like they used to be perhaps, and it makes them fearful of what could be and always cognizant of how far they have gone and how far we have fallen and how much work, albeit a small amount at this late stage, there is , perhaps, unfortunately, there is left to do here in this gulag......

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 23:29 | 1990681 GMadScientist
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or your myth is a comforting convenience and he's really just a shade different from the other 534 in the den of thieves, he's just got a better hustle for the angry constitution lovers around.

if and when I see paul advocate removing money from politics instead of advertising 'money bomb' events, I'll take him seriously and not a moment sooner.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:35 | 1989042 DionysusDevotee
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Well, if Karl Rove said it....

You are very funny...

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:38 | 1989050 Dr. Engali
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I think what he is saying is that Karl Rove is the repub establishment and they will fight Ron Paul tooth and nail if he gets serious traction.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 23:18 | 1989248 High Plains Drifter
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matter of fact rove said that ron paul is way outside the mainstream of conservative republican thought and way away from the republican platform...........so he will not get the nomination. end of story...........remember what happened in 2008. they ignored the ron paul delegates..........hmmm?   the main problem of course is paul's feelings about israhole........and his views that all wars must end........it is a said day when a "conservative " is supposedly someone who supports endless war and supports the terrorist state of israhole.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 14:21 | 1990015 lakecity55
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Yep. Rove and the clique of progressive "republicans" can't allow a true Conservative/Libertarian to run. We The People might get our country back from these fucking shills.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:21 | 1989010 heremynkitty
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RP.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 19:31 | 1988778 Bartanist
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So, Obama's only talents are:

1. Lying

2. Reading a teleprompter and moving his lips at the same time

3. Lying

4 Taking more vacation time than any other president

5. Lying

6. Playing more golf than any other president

7. Lying

8. Ordering the bombing of more countries than any other president ... and without congressional approval

8. Lying

9. Tearing apart the US constitution and implementing marshall law ... while considering himself a dictator in chief

10. Lying

I am not sure I see the attraction for the 43%. Maybe its a racial thing.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:36 | 1989044 DionysusDevotee
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Youre missing a critical factor;
"sounding good to the progressive mutual admiration society while lying"

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:08 | 1989752 GMadScientist
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Aww....your Saint Sarah didn't win? Wonder why? 

 "sounding bad, even to the neocon mutual masturbation society while lying".

Just not enough "real Americans", I guess.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 23:19 | 1990671 DionysusDevotee
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Saint Sarah?  Neocon?  What?  Beer goggles so bad you can't reply to the right post?

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:10 | 1989753 GMadScientist
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It's less about the attraction than the diminished nauseous repulsion relative to the opposition

(who've really outdone themselves this time).

 

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 14:19 | 1990007 lakecity55
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You forgot more Blowjobs than any president.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 19:51 | 1988829 Hannibal
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I am sick of the elphant and donkey shit.

I am done being a voting chump. Fuck it!

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 23:17 | 1989249 Problem Is
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+1... Hannibal with the correct analysis...

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 19:55 | 1988839 Van Halen
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I am interested in this poll because if you look at the elections of 1980, 84, 88 - the numbers are about the same. Proving that no matter what, about 40% of the country will vote Democrat. While those elections were over 20 years ago, it will be interesting to see next year if the numbers stil stand - and that is only if there isn't a powerful 3rd party.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 20:04 | 1988855 ebworthen
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Yes, Americans want yet another blowhard bullshitting politician to get the hell out of our face.

Does this mean we are chomping at the bit for a Republicrat?  NO.

It means We the People are sick and tired of political bullshit and government and politicians that don't live by the rules we have to live by.

Start making the guillotines.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 20:23 | 1988891 my puppy for prez
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RON PAUL 2012!!!

Donate to his moneybomb...

ronpaul2012.com

Consider it the best investment you can make right now!  Awesome return on your cashola!

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 20:09 | 1988863 YuropeanImbecille
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I wonder if we will ever get an Africanized president here in Europe... Our streets are jampacked with these disease ridden creatures from the darkest corners of Africa, so why not make one of them president? He would look awesome in his Idi amin sunglasses and military uniform while hounding white women and listening to African gangsterrap.

 

Oh I forgot, we are not retarded PC imbecilles that swallow any kind of shit just to pronounce "I-AM-NOT-RACIST"! I sure hope they would try so we can start proper riots and rebuild our military capabilities.

A dream I had since a kid, was that we would nuke the living shit out of three countries and live happily ever after. First we would nuke all major cities in the US, since you guys gave up your right to live after electing a Africanized rapper to be your president (just like in the movie Idiocracy). Secondly we would nuke Russia and lastly China with india taking some collateral damage.

Oh well, I just hope this fucking meltdown will arrive soon and make us all fight for our lives in a primitive and chatoic world, that does not give a fuck if you you are a homosexual protected minority or not, either you fight for your life or you die like the rest.

 

see you in hell bitchez!

 

Disclaimer!

For those of you who are retarded, I will clarify this as sarkasm and irony or what some call black humor

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:07 | 1988979 blindman
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speaking of racism....
the black egyptians defined humanity to the highest degree.
the white races then refined the art of war by perverting language.
quantitative analysis leads to the conclusion concerning depopulation
through homicide, the expertise of the white races. there is hope but not
anywhere that anyone has bothered to explore much.
.
it is curious. different groups of people with different conceptions
of a god concept. i wonder if multiple species had LANGUAGE and resulting
different conceptions of god would they then declare war on one another?
so i wonder, is it the language that demands homicide? or is it science?
or is it money? or they all the same thing? just simple blood lust and the
smell of burning flesh that stimulates the animal appetite? aka barbecue.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 23:58 | 1989343 trav7777
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slight problem...egyptians weren't black.

Not a goddamned thing about them suggests that they were, including DNA analysis or even just you know by looking at the FACES of artifacts like Tut's.

He was a white guy.  Blacks are a completely failed race left far behind by evolution.  Were it not for compassion of whites, and were this a normal evolutionary contest, blacks would have long since been extinct as other less competitive species have found themselves over the eons.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 00:27 | 1989416 High Plains Drifter
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the middle east used to have lots of white guys running around..........

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 00:54 | 1989456 blindman
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that is funny...( deleted biter commentary missing here )....
teeming with white people, ancient Egypt.
right, and they spoke the queen's English.
that is why they had to part the waters and escape to
judah / israel in 1200 bce, to protect the hypothecation
dream, the one true all mighty nasty creditor' prerogative?

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 10:56 | 1989739 High Plains Drifter
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http://www.consciousape.com/news/king-tuts-dna-western-european

 

also zahi hawass was recently arrested and sent to prison for his part in alleged theft of antiquities in egypt. this is the same asshole that used to be on the discovery channel and also he is the same jackball that refused to admit that the ancient egyptian pharaohs were white guys.....

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/404271

 

its a small world and very , very bad...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=477ViYr4KP8

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 13:38 | 1989930 blindman
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comment from link
HeruTutankamen said...

This really does not prove a thing as far as race. R1b is also known in Central and sub Sahara. The Egyptians had conquered part of W. Europe so its plausible that the DNA was introduced to Europe not that it originated in Europe. Also we have known for yrs that Caucasian and Arab Egyptologist have been known for lies and betrayal when it comes to antiquities for their own social and economic gains. We have seen that with many fake artifacts ie Shroud of Turin and Lead Codices and the so called Rapture that Jesus a character who we have no original artifacts on was suppose to come back in May of 2011. The ancient Egyptian origins are from the beginning of the Nile which as stated in the papyrus of Hunefer. Haplogroup E- DNA origins are E. African and is present in S. Africa, W. Africa, N. Africa and in African Americans. My opinion is that King Tut DNA is either a hoax or that the exact race is a cover up just so Arabs can try to paint a portrait of him being white or Arabic so both whites and Arabs continue to visit the museums. By using logic you can clearly see in the original artifacts that King Tut was of African descent. Also his grandmother was black African which means his father would have been black African as well. This type of defacing a nation is similar to when the Europeans came to America and robbed the Native Americans of their land and heritage.

Posted at 08:56 on Friday, August 19, 2011

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 15:06 | 1990074 G-R-U-N-T
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Yeah, I remember Zahi. I always had a very suspicious feeling about him and intuitively knew he was and is full of shit...I wasn't interested in Egypt enough to do some follow through research on him but I always keep in mind it is highly unlikely that truth ever resides in a con of his caliber and took his pitch with a grain of salt.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT7TfN4X-XA&feature=fvwp&NR=1

 

 

...

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:06 | 1989749 Lednbrass
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Who do you think the Ptolmaic dynasty were? Sub-saharan africans?

Read a book you ignoramus.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:54 | 1989844 blindman
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saharan africans, keyword: african.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:19 | 1989763 GMadScientist
Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:13 | 1989758 GMadScientist
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It's the insecurity that stems from knowing you may've wasted your intelligence on a pipedream.

The cognitive dissonance sparked by that realization turns into denial and violence.

Shock the monkey...

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 20:19 | 1988886 Alex Kintner
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Dammit! And I just ordered Obama Chia Pets as christmas presents for all my friend.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 20:35 | 1988914 heremynkitty
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Lookie those little monkeys in DC run - passing crap bill after crap, in order to get the flock outta Dodge.

At least Perry floated a 'part-time' CONgress.

Paul didn't.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:14 | 1988989 blindman
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they all be god fearing, security loving, legalees
sputtering terrorists in line with the satanic demands
of the new world disorder, praying 2012 will take them
away, like the calgon commercial ( bubble bath ), before
the down side of global fascism rips out their lungs, jim.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 09:41 | 1989676 WmMcK
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Lose yourself in luxury, bitchez.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVLzkTuVmrw

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:36 | 1989775 blindman
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" i am the one that becomes two that becomes
four that becomes eight. then i am one again."
.
the hermopolitan mystery
part 8 , magical egypt
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/magical-egypt/
.
http://www.themystica.com/mythical-folk/~articles/h/hermopolitan_theolog...
"Because of their theological belief Hermopolis was called "the city of eight" (Khmoun). Hermopolis also was responsible for the myth that the sun was like a lotus flower rising from the ocean waters, which enjoyed great popularity throughout Egypt. A.G.H."
take me away!
.
Snooks Eaglin - Nine Pound Steel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jls1zmy7hSw&feature=autoplay&list=AVGxdCw...

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:44 | 1989780 blindman
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpebrtsSSYY
David Lindley - Werewolves of London
.
Warren Zevon - Werewolves of London
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5V021Vj1eo&feature=related
.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 14:15 | 1989998 lakecity55
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...His hair was perfect....

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:39 | 1989054 DionysusDevotee
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"At least Perry floated a 'part-time' CONgress.

Paul didn't."

Because Paul already knows first hand that the problem is that they already are.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 00:35 | 1989429 High Plains Drifter
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we used to have a part time congress , back when we the people meant something i guess.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:55 | 1989847 DionysusDevotee
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Congress already spends most of thier time not doing their job, but consolidating power and taking advantage of influence and insider trading.  Most of their money isn't made from their salary, its made from their position.  Cutting back on thier hours means less time at work and more time using thier office for corruption.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 20:35 | 1988915 youLilQuantFuker
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Oh another political story about Obummer.

Slow news night.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 20:38 | 1988925 heremynkitty
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Support Bachmann!

Think of someone going all PMS on the world!

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 20:44 | 1988940 youLilQuantFuker
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Wouldn't Woopi be a better candidate for you? Black jew cunt with opinions....

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 20:55 | 1988962 heremynkitty
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W(h)oopie is female?  Can you prove it?  Danson sez otherwise...

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 08:49 | 1989641 Moe Howard
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Where the fuck are those eyebrows?

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 20:45 | 1988943 sabra1
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Institutional Bondholders Issue Instructions to Five Trustees to Open Investigations of Ineligible Mortgages in Over $95 Billion of JPMorgan-Issued RMBS
Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:16 | 1988993 non_anon
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vote stuffing redux

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:18 | 1989000 High Plains Drifter
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http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/congressmen-cant-say-merry-christmas-mail/261466

 

members of congress cannot mention christmas in correspondence...............who loves ya baby?

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:23 | 1989017 heremynkitty
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Happy Holydaze?

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:22 | 1989014 haskelslocal
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Has anyone ever considered if the President wants out?

Is it like the mafia? Can you get out? It's pretty ugly out there and maybe, when things suck beyond your control, getting out's not such a bad idea.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:25 | 1989021 heremynkitty
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Give up free weeks in Hawaii and Murtha's Vineyard?  You nuts?

Ooops, a Freudian up there.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 22:34 | 1989157 dolph9
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Any sane person would want out.

Obama's a sycophant tool with no skills, what would he actually do without this ceremonial position?  Oh yeah, he'd collect food stamps and "organize communities."

Either that or get a position at Harvard, endowed chair of "African American studies in Hawaii and Chicago"

Obama enjoys blowing bankers and kissing Israeli ass.  What a fucker.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:28 | 1989026 Pancho Villa
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There was some hope that Obama and his Democratic congress would undo Gramm-Leach-Bliley and re-regulate the banks. But they didn't do anything substantitive there. So bankers are still free to run amok, and muck up our economy.

I think that the only candidate who might do anything about bank re-regulation would be Ron Paul. All the other candidates are much too friendly with the bankers and financial industry.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:35 | 1989035 heremynkitty
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Too funny, the original full video is gone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ojd13kZlCA

NBC must have asserted CR.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:32 | 1989039 Richard Chesler
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There was never hope the corrupt bankster puppet would do anything.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:39 | 1989049 heremynkitty
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Given that, they then hoped the next election would see RP split the vote so OweBlahma could have

4 more years!

 

How you can believe the WTC was an inside job, and not believe this, is astounding.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:42 | 1989060 SheepleLOVEched...
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When it is all said and done and people start to do some figuring of their own, Obama will go down as the biggest failure and worst president in the history of the united states.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:46 | 1989063 heremynkitty
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By then it will be too late.  Vote RP!  Ensure collapse!

Ignore those really calling for the rule of Law.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 23:01 | 1989220 zerozulu
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Not yet. He will get second term and will go down with the blame of destroying the USA as we know it.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:46 | 1989064 dolph9
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Fuck Obama and his liberal, black, and jewish enablers.

STOP SHOVING AFFIRMATIVE ACTION DOWN OUR THROATS.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:50 | 1989072 heremynkitty
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Make it NY Joos, and their ilk in E FL, and I agree.

Whatever happened to that wanker Wiener?  Is he shacking up with Blabbermouth-Schultz?

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 22:32 | 1989155 youLilQuantFuker
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Who you talking about? Debby Pantsuit-Shitzstain?

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTaIlEK7FK48WWA1gy9tOIVT0XvMbWPR...

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 00:41 | 1989439 High Plains Drifter
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wiener got thrown under the bus because he was messing with monsanto. monsanto has a lot of power in the new world order scheme because of the food thingy......so wiener despite being a member of the tribe was fired because of that silly business on face book..........of course what he did was stupid but hardly a big deal when you consider all of the bullshit that goes on up in congress.......

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:51 | 1989075 Bobportlandor
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Looking at this chart your telling me he had less then 5% disaprovel at start. Are you kidding me. He was the biggest phony from day he opened his mouth and the fact the populous bought this I find troubling.

The problem is, people don't live long enough to outvote the stupid. Depending on how involved you are it may take 40 -50 years to gain the exsperance to see through the BS the DNC and RNC put out.

By now its so clear and punctuated by the fact theses guys don't even go to the trouble to learn a new script, (same words same bs same game)  and still 50% are clueless.

Absolutely Amazing!

 

 

 

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:54 | 1989084 heremynkitty
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Clue, the system has been rigged so that the stupid survive.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:56 | 1989082 Dick Buttkiss
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As has been said, "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal."

Which is to say that the only vote that counts -- if only because of the constant threat that it can be use -- is the vote to secede.  

Until then, fuck it, and hunker down until enough of us do what the Soviets did and Just Say No.

After that, game on.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:56 | 1989088 heremynkitty
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Voting counts, moron.  Why do you think OweBlahma is hell-bent on destroying voter ID laws?

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 22:00 | 1989095 Dick Buttkiss
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Yes, heremynkitty, voting counts.  If by that you mean how the powers that be count the morons.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 22:09 | 1989113 heremynkitty
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Hmmm...not a believer in the Diebold scam, TPTB count the morons by ...SNAP!

 

Knew it would come to me.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:04 | 1989746 Dick Buttkiss
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Just a believer in the scam that is The God that Failed any way you look at it:

http://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Economics-Politics-Monarchy-Natural/dp/0...

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 21:55 | 1989087 goodrich4bk
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Tthe assumption of this post is wrong.  Some Americans disaaprove of Obama because he is not far enough to the left.  For example, his healthcare reform never even considered a public option --- the very system that most other First World countries use to get better average outcomes than Americans get with their private payers.  Obama also kept to Bush's timeline for Iraq withdrawal and did not accellerate it by a single day.  As for Wall Street reform, Frank-Dodd is not even as strong a reform as Republican Paul Volker wanted.  There has been no immigration reform and taxes are now actually lower than they were under Bush after the Bush tax custs.

So for those of you who have swallowed the lie that Obama is a Socialist, you jump to the conclusion that if 52% of Americans want him out it's because he's a socialist. 

Obama/Bush/Romney/Gingrich ---- there's no real difference among any of them.  Obamacare passed because it was in corporate America's interest to shift some of their healthcare costs to taxpayers and uninsured Americans.  If a Republican president had been elected, the "health care crisis" would have been solved by vouchers, which ---- surprise --- would have had exactly the same effect.

 

 

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 22:27 | 1989118 heremynkitty
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Huh?  Hope you are a furringer, cuz your spelling errors make your post unreadable.

Some help here, pleeze?  Never mind, pieced it out.  Kept reading Tthe as tithe...

Uhhh, dude, ObamaDeath is the public option.

Iraq time line from Boosch was kept cuz he had no clue.

Why bother.....Jon did it, so why can't I?

 

PS, OweBlahma is a Progressive, feel better?

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 22:54 | 1989198 youLilQuantFuker
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lol, myncat you're a fucknut. lol. funny. OweBlahma. Puppet Oblankfein.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:22 | 1991403 Police Commissi...
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A public option had over 70 percent support before the health care reform debate even began and our hero bagained it away at the start. A Socialist he is not. He's like Corzine,  Clinton, Summers, Emmanuel and other corporatist Democrats who have no convictions other than securing their post-office speaking fees and/or Wall Street jobs.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 22:00 | 1989097 dolly madison
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I don't think it is class warfare blowback that makes people not want him.  It is that they can see he is controlled by the corporations and banks.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 22:17 | 1989119 heremynkitty
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I think it is because he has proven himself ignorant in all life skills.

Where is 'Cooking With OweBlahma', or 'Dancing With OweBlahma'?

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 22:17 | 1989126 IQ 101
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BlowBama.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 22:18 | 1989129 heremynkitty
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You first.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 13:49 | 1989950 lakecity55
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It's well-known, according to 2 sources I know in Chi-town, that Soetoro prefers the music of the skin flute. Mo-Shell and the pickaninnies were probably rented.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 22:28 | 1989146 IQ 101
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Barry, Obama, fuzzwick doof dorf, also known as Larry in New Hampshire and Dave in Paris,Kenny in Miami, Trevor in London and Dennis in Croatia,

Who is this guy? Pete in Pakistan. it is a bit mysterious,no?

Went to Columbia, no one else did.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 22:51 | 1989192 Snakeeyes
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Add in that Federal debt PLUS GSE debt (F&F, FLUB) is over $16 trillion. We are WORSE than Greece.

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 22:57 | 1989205 SheepleLOVEched...
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food stamps for everyone!!!!!! green shoots as far as the eye can see!!!!! free healthcare for everyone!!!!! lets end the Iraq war!!!!! We got that bastard osama!!!! close guantanamo!!!! Rebuild the middle class!!!!

 

FUCKING JOKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

CROOKS AND THIEVES AND COWARDLY WARMONGERES THE WHOLE LOT OF THEM

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 13:25 | 1989905 linrom
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+ 20 $Trillion$ in elite wealth vs 30 Trillion in DEBT. Now that is what is the real class warefare.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 23:10 | 1989230 Problem Is
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CREEP -- Committee to RE-Elect the President

The CIA creation, multinational corporate shill (Think BP's Bitch), warmongering Nobel Laurette, Wall Street Puppet Barry Soetoro aka Obama Bin Lyin'...

A One-Term-Carter...

<JUNK> This, Obam-o-bots
Makes me wonder just how gullible 43% of my fellow citizens are...

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 23:25 | 1989263 collon88
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Come on Tyler, QE3 will accomplish what exactly?

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 23:37 | 1989290 hairball48
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I like Ron Paul but unfortunately  it wouldn't matter if he was elected President. It's not going to matter who is elected.

We're past the economic tipping point. I'm just marking time by hoarding my gold, silver, guns&ammo, and stuff.... waiting for the Crackup-Boom and the ensuing chaos.

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 23:44 | 1989307 Bansters-in-my-...
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the moral of the story is
............... 50% of americans are complete fucking idiots.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 00:20 | 1989403 jomama
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so i guess i am some kind of a fucking genius because i could already see the current state of affairs unfolding, and through the lies even before obummer was (s)elected?

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 00:31 | 1989421 lunaticfringe
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43% want to give this POS another term? Are you kidding me? Gawd help us- they must have polled the fucking cabinet.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 13:46 | 1989947 lakecity55
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Real numbers: probably 25-30%. The polls usually consist of a sample of 40% democrats, 30% independents, and 30% conservatives. In short, they're rigged, just like the Democrat Communist Party plans to do in the election next year. In order to defeat the rigging, you have to get your voters' numbers much higher; everyone who wants Soetoro out HAS to vote!

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 01:58 | 1989503 connda
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With NDAA, he'll just be able to toss all of the "terrorist" independents into Gitmo and scare the Bejesus out of the rest of the dumbed-down flock of sheeple -- that should probably turn those pesky statistics around.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 02:09 | 1989512 xtop23
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How about his blatant disregard for The Bill of Rights and The Constitution? A team of lawyers finding new and inventive ways of interpretation or "legal frameworks" to operate under and steer us more and more into a corner.

The economy is just the most noticeable to the sheep.

Im already planning on moving to Montreal. Ive about had enough and I want to get out before things go nuclear.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 02:37 | 1989532 James_Cole
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Huge deal if Paul wins Iowa!! Oh wait... who won Iowa last time again?

Ron Paul supporters are just as delusional in every respect (well... except chances of becoming president I guess) as Obama supporters. After Paul loses and Obama continues doing nothing good (& loses as well probably) you all can start a support group together and argue about how your dear politician of choice was really "the one" sooo close to fixing everything.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 02:41 | 1989536 McGuffin
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Did a Teatard write this post? Where's the evidence of a correlation between Obama's poll numbers and his pseudo-populist campaign rhetoric?

There isn't any. Teatard just threw that out there, without evidence or even an attempt to just ify the claim. If I want right wing idiocy, I can watch Glenn Beck.

 

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 06:50 | 1989610 Mark Wilson
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Lol! That's hilarious.
Reminds me of comedian Chris Rock explaining the difference between black people and "niggas".  

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 07:49 | 1989620 Element
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Ahmadinejad says thanks for the Christmas present

16 Dec 2011
 
Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad scoffed and mocked, in an interview broadcast on Venezuelan television, the U.S. officials who refuse to admit that expert hackers in a cyber-war corps of the Revolutionary Guards of Iran tracked and assumed the remote control of the stealth RQ-170 Sentinel drone spying on Iranian territory, and managed to land it without damage. Ahmadinejad said that soon the U.S. will be convinced of the new capabilities of Iran: "We have an ongoing program to mass build high-tech drones invisible to radar," he said.

Iran's president smiled when asked why the U.S. military refused to accept that Iran tracked the electronic system of the drone, took control of the device and it landed without damage. "Either they accept the obvious or ... perhaps the United States sent us this as a present, the robot spy? "

He said that Iranian specialists had no trouble tracking down the spy drone and that they also already have gained access to the databases installed on the device.

http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/crimes/16-12-2011/119993-Ahmadinejad_s...

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Things are not looking good here either;

Of course no aircraft is ever actually "invisible to radar", it is only ever 'low-observable', i.e. you can see it, but not easily, nor clearly, which allows ECM, decoys and tactical distractions to work far more easily and effectively, so that the aircraft is not noticed when it ordinarily might be.

My GUESS is the Iranians are getting harder and harder to distract, as they rapidly wise-up to US tactics, so they saw it coming in, this time, and were apparently waiting for it. They possibly even saw it taking off, then followed its periodic burst emissions via a space-based telemetry eaves-dropping system, then jammed the US controlling comms nodes, and substituted in their own replica.

If that's how they did it, then they have been planning this sort of countering operation for many years, and there is a very good chance the Russians and possibly the Chinese were advising of how this might be done. What is for sure now is that a detailed understanding of the US drone systems and their comms and capabilities just went global.

I will gratuitously predict here that manned aircraft will remain necessary for the foreseeable future.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 08:43 | 1989638 dcb
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you make a huge conclusional reach without data and it is this:

 It seems that the clear class warfare escapades he has been engaging in recently have backfired

the problem is that upon taking office he should have done the populist thing  and really tried to reform wall street, close gitmo, get rid patriot act, etc. the reason the "escapades" are failing is that nobody I know believe he stands by a word he says. they see through the new escapdes and realize he's a corpaorate whore.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 13:14 | 1989885 linrom
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I came to the conclusion that ZH is pure propaganda tool of the 'hedge fund' class, that is, the BASTARDS support austerity so they can retain purchasing power of the money they swindled while employed on Wall Street.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 10:29 | 1989716 GMadScientist
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Major (stupid) assumptions:

 

- Those polled wlll hold Obama (rather than congress, or Wall St tycoons) responsible for the economy

- Those polled opposed the healthcare law because they wanted nothing, not because they wanted single-payer

- Those polled would prefer to have a president with a name like Newt or Mitt

 

Obama's competition hasn't figured out that making him look bad isn't enough...they need to look better too.

You want real reasons why Obama won't be re-elected? Youth turn-out and pissing on the unions that got him PA.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 10:45 | 1989728 RiverRoad
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QE3 will come at the optimum time for Obummer's reelection......NOT!!!!!

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 10:57 | 1989741 Police Commissi...
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It's not Obama's handling of the economy or healthcare reform that has people lining up against him, but his total lack of a spine. Investigate Bush/Cheney crimes, investigate Wall Street, throw some assholes in jail and you'd see his numbers turn around in minutes.

It's totally ridiculous "conventional wisdom" like this that will have Obama instead steering the country even more to the right than it already is to attract those mythical independents.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:45 | 1989783 jeffgroove102
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Spot on statement man. I have been shouting this until I am blue in the face. I think karl denninger gets it right when he says "stop the looting and start the prosecuting".

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:02 | 1989743 RiverRoad
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If you don't dance to the Fed's tune you're a one-term pres.  Look at all the republican candidates, except Ron Paul, all falling all over themselves hoping to get the "first dance."

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:42 | 1989777 jeffgroove102
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I would rather throw money at ron paul, then spill blood in a protest or debate irrational media. Time well spent, I think it is no secret that obama is the second coming of jimmy carter. Not that reagan was really much better when you think about it empirically, except employment got better.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:42 | 1989778 jeffgroove102
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I would rather throw money at ron paul, then spill blood in a protest or debate irrational media. Time well spent, I think it is no secret that obama is the second coming of jimmy carter. Not that reagan was really much better when you think about it empirically, except employment got better.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:02 | 1989800 AchtungAffen
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Class warfare escapades as in taking from the not rich to give to the rich?

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:57 | 1989853 SheepleLOVEched...
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thats exactly what this whole fucking system is ......REGRESSIVE not progressive like ll of these bullshit social programs claim.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:16 | 1989811 High Plains Drifter
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http://www.sss.gov/lotter1.htm

 

the draft lottery during vietnam.  can you believe they used to do shit like this?  play games with people's lives..........God damn them to hell for these wars fought with the blood of the young people and for nothing........and now, useful idiots join up and die for nothing , all voluntarily too.......pure insanity.....

 

and someone may ask. where is the help coming from?  where is the calvary?   there will be no help. there will be no calvary. the percentage it was said, during the late 1770's was maybe 3 percent that really gave a damn.   shall i look around me and see how many give a damn today?  oh make no mistake about it. the vietnam veteran is still fit to be tied for what happened to him over there but he waits........he waits and watches and never hears the caedmon's call to meet at the crossroads?   will that call ever come?  we wait now.........

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:47 | 1989832 Richard Chesler
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Vote the corrupt bankster puppet out!

 

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:51 | 1989839 Sathington Willougby
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Good people are winning.  Limbaugh, Hannity and Levin are losing listeners faster than BO can sign a heinous Bill of Rights crushing bill.  Even the generation I thought we'd never reach are seeing the lie.

Keep making fun of Ron Paul fatuous asses, it only exposes you for the fraud you are.

 

 

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 13:06 | 1989864 linrom
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ZH like a good Republican think tank turns facts upside down. Obama is not going to get re-elected UNLESS he becomes a populist like FDR, Teddy or Huey Long and promises to re-distribute wealth back to those whence it came from.

 

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 13:10 | 1989875 HungrySeagull
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Having learned of the Congress passage of a great deal of money to keep the government going until early 2012 and apparently not a scrap of paper except one or two pages on the Clerk to call.

As long they get that Pipeline built and keep the lights on I am content. However it is time to put someone into that White House and place Congress into a position where they can clearly see the Nation's needs with clear eyes instead of being motivated by the same old corruption that seems to hurt those sent there to run the Nation.

If this is where the Nation is heading, I am half tempted to want out. However I have been through many Presidents since Truman and am going to stick this one out.

I am however one step from living in the Forest away from all the crap that the Propaganda organs broadcast with all the vim and vigor of Wagner playing a new song.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 13:18 | 1989892 lakecity55
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Having a true communist as president doesn't work too well with our system. I bet this bastard has a map of America painted inside his toilet bowl so he can spread his asscheeks every day and sh*t all over us.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 16:22 | 1990215 WilliamD
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Communist???? Yeah, right. Who does your thinking for you?

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 13:59 | 1989970 PulauHantu29
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Will Barry get another Nobel Peace Prize before or after he invades Syria?

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 14:14 | 1989993 WilliamD
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OK, where does the author explain the "class warfare" part of the headline? 

As a strong Obama supporter in '08, I quickly came to hate him. It was soon clear he was a liar, manipulator of peoples' hopes, a suck-up to power, warmonger, destroyer of the constitution . . .

But oh yeah, can he make a pretty speech or what?

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 14:41 | 1990032 G-R-U-N-T
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Critical thinking men and women knew he was a shill and con....Unfortunately those that voted for him have a desire to have ear candy rather than substantive reality. I find it scary in terms of our voting populace that could be swindled so easily. It really doesn't say much for the U.S. voting masses IQ.

Obama is doing exactly what he wants to do and his motive is to rally a non thinking useful idiot base together with restructuring of the American way of life. As long as there are enough dumb shits to believe they do not have to be productive and that government has big enough tits to sustain them while out numbering the wise and informed we're doomed and migration may indeed be a viable option.

 

 

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 14:15 | 1989997 Jocanada
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Its amazing watching all this election shite on tv for 18 months.

Democracy at work... a nation so divided by rich and poor, with no middle ground.

And In the end, a leader whom will be overrun by a military and corporate machine.

Under such circumstances, can any newly elected president really fix all that is wrong?

Not likely!

  Its a global phenomenon.

A system built on growth and consumption cannot be sustained. Yet those with the strongest influence ensure...its the only way!!

Only a monumental event will reshape our way of thinking....until then its more of the same.

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