Coffee And Cigarettes

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With Greece taxing nearly 90% of the price on a pack of cigarettes, perhaps a far more reliable indicator of sovereign health (ironically) than rating agencies is just how much in sin tax a given country withholds. If that is the case, France really should be worried. Also: don't be surprised if the next sauna you go to has a Starbucks outlet.

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Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:03 | 2527652 The Gooch
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Chicago- cigarettes=$10(+)

Collar counties = $5.


Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:17 | 2527691 SilverTree
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FSC made me quit.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:26 | 2527710 flacon
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20 pack of Marlboro Light in Ontario is CDN $10.03

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:49 | 2527784 Rahm
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You don't like the windy city price? Next on the agenda: ban cigarettes.... Bitchez!

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:18 | 2527876 Marginal Call
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Ban?  And give up a constant revenue stream from addicts?  Fat chance.



Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:06 | 2528025 markmotive
Fri, 06/15/2012 - 00:56 | 2528371 AldousHuxley
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No Obamacare for lung transplants if you are a smoker.

Includes Obama himself.


No welfare for people who spend $5 for a half a gallon doctored up "coffee" at starbucks.



Fri, 06/15/2012 - 02:55 | 2528503 Prometheus418
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I'll even raise you.  How about no "free" lung transplants for anyone, or welfare either?

And I say this as a guy who both smokes and drinks coffee.  When is the idiotic government going to figure out that personal lifestyle choices are not within their purvue?

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 01:54 | 2528448 cbxer55
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Fri, 06/15/2012 - 09:06 | 2528854 zuuma
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if someone offered me $87,600...


I would START smoking! 

The minute I see the money wired into my account, I'll fire up a fag & inhale. Best thing is, I don't smoke. Never have.

The first couple weeks I'll get a fantastic nicotene buzz.

$87,600 will get me something like 50oz of AU, too!!!!


One question, though:    How long do I have to stay a smoker to earn my fee???

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:24 | 2528074 greyghost
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leave me alone...i smokin cigarettes and watchin capt. kangaroo....go away

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 07:48 | 2528688 Metalredneck
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Don't tell me I got nothin' to do...

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:37 | 2527930 DoChenRollingBearing
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@ Rahm

+ 1


Cost of a pack cheap brands in S Florida is about $6.00 - $7.00 depending on where you go.  Premium cigarettes bout $1.00 more.  I don't smoke.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 02:58 | 2528508 Prometheus418
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I pay about $2.50 a pack in Wisconsin for American Spirits, but they're handrolled.  Used to be that a can (about a carton and a half) went for about $8.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 04:19 | 2528564 Ar-Pharazôn
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daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn! in switzerland for a pack of american spirit i pay 6.70 francs..... for a 5 packs box i pay 6.70 x 4.................... WTF!!!

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 05:22 | 2528588 CPL
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Holy shit that's cheap.

Pack of smokes in Ottawa, brand names are $11.75 a pack with the 15% HST.  The weedy tweed brands are 10.00 a pack.

Cigars from everywhere else but cuba: $10 for a foot long Churchill.  For a Cuban (not a churchill) it's around $20.

Large cup of Timmy's in the morning is 1.80 with taxes in.

Starbucks is 5.

A pint of Kieth's is $8 now for a 20oz pint.

A 2-4 is $40, but most people drive to Quebec because a case of beer is $25 at a place called the Beer King in Aylmer.  Ontario wine is cheap, in Quebec peu chere (expensive).  Beer in Quebec is cheap, in Ontario it's expensive.


BUT WAIT...we also have a third country in both the US and Canada.  The Native Bands.  A carton of brand name smokes (any brand from any country if available) from an Indian /b/rother is $25 a carton.  Moonshine is $30 a gallon.  Tweedy brew is $20 a case.  No wine.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:39 | 2527936 The Gooch
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See! just like satan. Call his name and... POOF! There he is!


Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:55 | 2527983 sunnydays
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Roll your own.  I have been doing it for years.  I get all natural tobacco from an Indian reservation out of Washington State.  A WHOLE carton cost me 9.  I pay less than 1 dollar per pack.  Those that smoke would be smart to roll your own.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:39 | 2528106 Race Car Driver
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> "Those that smoke would be smart to roll your own."


You're correct. Tho, it would be smarter to quit.

(ex-MYO'er & ex-smoker)


Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:36 | 2528219 sunnydays
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If you are going to smoke than the smart thing is to roll your own.  Some people enjoy smoking and don't cave into govt pressure.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 00:27 | 2528331 I am a Man I am...
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or dying of lung cancer, i quit smoking a month ago because the long term effects are potentially very bad, but i'm with you, if you are going to smoke you are doing the best and most likely least lethal way. i enjoyed smoking with my buds, but the thought of dying too soon from smokes eventually outweighed it, now i just drink a bunch of tito's vodka and light beer.  still bad, but cut my risks down by 50 percent of potentially bad shit that can happen to me, i would like to try one of those smokes right now though, cheers

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 04:51 | 2528572 Harlequin001
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I quit smoking when it dawned on me that I had been smoking for longer than I hadn't.

Kind of brings it home to you. That shit's not supposed to be in your body.

Never touched another one since, and never wanted to either...

That was more than 5 years ago now, other than it was on bonfire night, November 5th, I never even bothered counting...

I set my aim to start smoking a clay pipe when I'm 70. Figured the smell was still nice, and it won't make any difference to my health at that time of life. Until then I can wait, if that's what you call it...

Still more than twenty odd years to go yet, and I'm quite happy with that...

To all you smokers out there, I highly recommend it...

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:59 | 2528250 cranky-old-geezer
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When people kick their medical drug addictions and stop asking insurance companies to pay for them, then I'll listen to their stop-smoking rants.  Until then, their stop-smoking rants are pure hypocrisy.

Take the beam out of your own eye, then you can see clearly to take the speck out of someone else's eye.

On second thought I won't ever listen to their stop-smoking rants.  It's none of their damn business.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:41 | 2528111 Uchtdorf
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Gee, kinda like ammo, only the health damage is done on the other end.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:56 | 2528144 Acorn10012
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Used to roll my own when I was younger...never used tobacco though. Damn those were the days...gotta move to British Columbia!

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 13:33 | 2529893 optimator
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As the tax revenues go down they'll go after the roll your own smokers.  Take a look at what CT is doing just to stop the roll your own machines.,0,1582076.story

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:46 | 2528124 Silver Bug
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Inflation is here to stay.


Buy Silver to protect yourself.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:50 | 2528256 Hunch Trader
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20 pack of Marlboro in Vietnam = $0.75.

And they're not selling at a loss, either.


Fri, 06/15/2012 - 04:41 | 2528571 mrdenis
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Smoke Cuban , Partagas is the cigar of choice for all Amerika's politicians they will never tax them .....

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:32 | 2527726 IndicaTive
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Reading ZH keeps me from quitting.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 20:35 | 2527736 BlueCollaredOne
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I tell my girlfriend the same thing. This site also contributes to my alcohol abuse.

Needless to say she doesn't like this site too much.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:19 | 2527880 New_Meat
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Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:38 | 2527935 DoChenRollingBearing
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hear you guys, + 1 re wives not liking all that computer time their husbands spend on the Internet and ZH.  LOL...

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:09 | 2528032 Miffed Microbio...
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Lucky guys! I've got "ZH free times" now imposed on me by my husband and they seem to be increasing in number. My work blocked the site so I had to buy an iPad. I'm being attacked at all directions! Hid in the barn tonight and he sent out the dog to find me. Something about this site drives your significant others crazy!


Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:22 | 2528062 AssFire
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Just tell her:

"Don't make me choose"

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:43 | 2528115 Uchtdorf
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Well, get him reading ZH too. A family that ZH's together, stays together.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:57 | 2528146 Jena
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It seems like there is a one-person per household ZH allowance.  Maybe only so much rage per roof.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 02:06 | 2528461 DoChenRollingBearing
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Right Jena.... + 1...  Same w/ my family...

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 00:28 | 2528333 alien-IQ
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I would only marry a woman that reads ZH.

And if she drinks and smokes that's a bonus.

And if she also bares some resemblance to Jessica Alba...I would not be upset either.

Am I asking for too much?

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 03:14 | 2528518 Prometheus418
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Maybe, but you can get close.

My wife drinks, smokes, and backs whatever I say regarding finance or virtually any other matter- and she's nice to look at, too.  I don't have the faintest idea who Jessica Alba is, and don't care (haven't turned on a tv set in years.)  Probably, my lady looks nothing like her- she's looks like an Indian ("native american," that is) princess, and has the fiscal responsibility and temperment of a German fraulein.

The point is, your wish isn't entirely out of the question, it just may take a little tweak here and there.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:48 | 2528128 whoopsing
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Bluecollar ,My girl refers to this site as zerohead, You think you got problems....

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:13 | 2527856 alien-IQ
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Reading ZH has caused a serious increase in my alcohol consumption...sometimes early in the morning:-(

ZH should come with a fucking warning label.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:19 | 2527874 Dr. Engali
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"ZH should come with a fucking warning label"

Don't give any crazy lawyers reading this any ideas. Tyler will have to pass out a prospectus on the front porch before letting people enter.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:20 | 2527882 New_Meat
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"First, we kill all of the lawyers!"

Da Bard

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 23:51 | 2528259 Braverdave
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When the revolution comes they will certainly be some of the first up against the wall along with bankers, real estate agents and other evil-doers!


Thu, 06/14/2012 - 21:44 | 2527911 DaveyJones
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Luckily, other sites on peak oil / debt / false flags already got me there (along with my irish catholic upbringing). Note that as a causation defense

Actually think ZH is a form of therapy - gee, not alone, lot of other people losing their minds , scared shitless and lost all respect

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 23:47 | 2531369 CPL
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Amen /b/rother.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 22:36 | 2528097 infinity8
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I have a friend who was living in Oklahoma for awhile for a good job. He got a CITATION for drinking beer, on his own front porch with another guy, because he was in view of neighborhood children (that could see him drinking beer).  The lawyers and insurance-men won a long time ago.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 00:45 | 2528361 cbxer55
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I live in Oklahoma, and sit on my front porch, or in my garage, smoking cigars and drinking hooch! What should I do? I do this with friends at times as well! Oh Lordy, I am toast. The neighborhood police officer even waves when he goes past. 

Guess I'll just keep-on-keepin-on, and worry about it when I get written up for it.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 02:21 | 2528473 So Sue Me
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Did someone ask for a lawyer?

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