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Congress Finds AG Holder In Contempt
In a day full of political news, here is the latest fixture to the soap opera to keep the electorate happy with water cooler talk.
- HOUSE HAS ENOUGH VOTES FOR HOLDER CITATION; VOTE CONTINUES
- House votes 255-67 to hold AG Eric Holder in criminal contempt of Congress for withholding documents in the Fast and Furious probe
Now, if only someone, somewhere can tell us the answer to the only question that matters in a world that just happens to have run out of money: who will pay for everything in this increasingly insane world, we would be very grateful. Or is everyone too distracted by meaningless flashing headlines, and ideological agenda to actually care?
From Reuters:
U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder was found in contempt of Congress on Thursday as the Republican-controlled House of Representatives sanctioned the nation's top law enforcement official for withholding some documents related to a failed gun-running probe.
The mostly partisan vote of 255-67 marked the first time a sitting attorney general and presidential Cabinet member was cited for contempt by the full House. No Senate vote is necessary in this House contempt citation.
Many Democrats refused to cast votes, and Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi led many of her colleagues in a walkout from the House floor in protest.
Later in the day, the House also was scheduled to vote on a resolution asking U.S. courts to force Holder to turn over documents being sought by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee as part of its long-running investigation of the Fast and Furious. That could lead to a prolonged court fight with an uncertain outcome while a judge weighed the House demand against the Obama administration's claim of executive privilege to protect the documents.
The unprecedented House rebuke of Holder was overshadowed by the U.S. Supreme Court's upholding of Democratic President Barack Obama's controversial healthcare law - a ruling that was reverberating throughout the country.
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everyone in DC/fed/state/local govt HAS contempt for US citizens
Free Jon Corzine!! oh, wait. he is.. then, Fuck you Bernanke.
edit: Net is slooooow today.
Supreme Court Upholds Bill Of Rights In 5-4 Decision
http://www.theonion.com/articles/supreme-court-upholds-bill-of-rights-in-54-decisio,6453/
I think it's good we now have 50,000 dead Mexicans and some Americans from the US gun running operations.
Oh, they're just getting warmed up.
A tradeoff. Obumcare for holder. Win-win.
Who will pay for everything in an increasingly insane world? Dunno, pal, but I'd gladly pay you Tuesday for a burger today.
Capiche?
20 million illegal aliens just got free health care. WTF we got the printing press.
It's free if you can get past the deathpanel.
Oh, they're just getting warmed up.
Yep,dhs just ordered 7000 AR15's to go along w/the 175 million rds of 5.56............anf the 500million .40cals.
Good thing everyone's going to need to get Life Insurance I mean Health Insurance.
.40 hollow points -- don't forget that -- against the Geneva Convention but perfectly OK for liquifying the guts of American citizens.
Hypocrisy is the rule of the day. Power corrupts. This is America? Whatever.
http://www.infowars.com/swat-tries-to-take-down-internet-meanie-raids-gr...
What this is is disgusting.
We'll throw flash grenades and call the SWAT team on grandma, but we won't apply any justice to certain folks who are much, much more heinous than any internet loudmouth.
Be careful what you say on ZH, or the SWAT team might be headed your way.
Walking out... leaving the state... leave of absence... "present"... whatever.. it's the Democrat way.
if only they would stay gone.
Obam voters voted for this in 2008.
"Now listen to me loud and clear. I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky - not once - not ever."
Contempt is a way of life in the US govvy.
Doesn't this make you weep, the higherst law official in the land?
Oh, wait, the highest offical had a drip...
This whole thing is just political theater, if the useless fucks in congress were doing their jobs they would be investigating Holder for the non-enforcement of the laws pertaining to bank fraud, not wasting their time and our money on a pathetic non-issue like F&F. Their pretend outrage is nauseating.
indeed
Mr Holder and I are both in contempt of Congress now!
The pretend outrage is nauseating for two reasons: 1.) as you mentioned, they should be investigating Holder for a myriad of other violations; and 2.) F&F is a serious enough issue that they shouldn't have to feign outrage. That's the rub: if this were Bush's fuckup, they wouldn't have made a peep.
Why is there no outrage from either party at all the military hardware we've floded the world with that has gone astray and killed hundreds of thousands of innocents?
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Good God, man, take a little care when typing so that you aren't mistaken for a 5th grader.
...and Ken Star only spent wasted almost $100,000,000 and a couple of years shining a flashlight up Clinton's butt to find that out. I guess it was worth it to all the mouth-breathing perverts who get their rocks off over that kind of wonderful, non-partisan investigation. Bread and Circuses for those waek of mind and limp of dick.
If you came here to defend that lying sack of shit traitorous Chinese agent...you came to the wrong place
Hey, Buckaroo! Do you get as excised over those lying sacks of shit Nixon, Reagan, Bush 1 & 2? Just wondering.
...and, by the way, I have been here longer than you. I'm pretty familiar with the place, sport ;-0
Xibalba pointed out:
This will be an actual news headline from next year's Supreme Court session.
The weirdness has been getting weirder at an accelerating pace. The Onion is barely able to stay a few months ahead of the "real" headlines, and that's not meant to disparage their much appreciated work in any way.
The Onion is usually closer to the truth than the MSM.
No they didn't - they just voted to give away all your rights.
This Obamacare decision, while about healthcare, is more than that - the SCOTUS just affirmed/made law that Congress can force Americans to buy ANY product/service as long as the consequences of not doing so will result in a tax (not a penalty).
So, Congress can pass a law that requires ALL Americans to buy a Chevy Volt for $40,000, attach a (sales) tax of an additional $50,000 OR, you can choose NOT to buy the car and pay a $90,000 tax (penalty).
BILL OR RIGHTS????
You and I, from this day forward, have no rights except to go to work and pay the taxes for ANY fucking bat-shit crazy program those fucking psychopaths dream up.
Today was the last day of the UNITED states of America - the result will be revolution or states seceding.
That's not really true - I read this and I agree, "Obama is playing poker, Roberts is playing chess." If you look at the ruling, Roberts sided conservative on a majority of the issues. He stuck his finger in the eye of Obama in multiple ways, by asserting that it's a tax, and now limiting power from Commerce Clause crap. It's returned as the political football that it is, back to the bought and paid for politicians that were too blundering "to get it right" (in terms of taking our rights away properly /sarc). Now, we have a situation to incense people just like Dred Scott. Even the libs are figuring out they've been outfoxed. Don't buy the face value Psyops - think about what they did... Brilliant!
A political football that is never repealed goes into effect and te right and the left get to use to pander to their constituents forever.
This is no super secret victory it is political theater.
"Roberts is playing chess..."
Really? Seriously? With what planned endgame? Reapeal? It is to laugh. Not a whole lot of people know this - it isn't taught in history books for some odd reason - but there was a time when your paycheck didn't have your taxes conveniently already all taken out. You made $100/week, your weekly paycheck was....$100. Then along came WW2, and Uncle Sugar needed cash for bombs and bandages and such. So some asshole....I mean, some bureaucrat came up with the 'witholding' idea. They solemnly *swore* to the American people that "it was only temporary", and would stop "the instant we licked them japs/nazis!"
How's that workin' out for us proles so far? Obaama, Roberts, and all the other wholly-owned political/judicial whores ain't playing a *game*...they're boiling them some frogs.
You know what's depressing? Guess who came up with the idea of income tax withholding.
Milton Friedman. Can you fucking believe that shit.
Look it up.
"So some asshole...." named Milton Friedman, I believe.
Roberts just revitalized the Tea Party. Romney will ride the wave, regardless of his truer intentions. So yes, chess.
How many fiat dollars would it take to buy a piece of property from the US and secede? Surely we could pile enough of that shit together????
Nothing a couple JDAM's couldn't wipe out in 30 seconds
+1 to Mr. Galt.
Time for us to severe the ties and start over.
While I'm quite pissed about obummer-care, I happen to have bought a Volt voluntarily, and love the car, which I charge off my made-in-america solar PV system. Averaging about 170 mpg of gasoline used (sometimes need to take long trips and use gas, but not much obviously), electricity is "paid in advance" via buying the panels and so on. Great car, fun to drive, quick, quiet. Safe.
So sorry to hear you like OPEC up your ass and buy into some very stupid talking heads who get paid to hate on things that can make us free from them - and create jobs for Americans instead of.....
You ASSume much DCF - I don't like OPEC, and I drive a Prius.
Create jobs for Americans????? How about opening our own oil fields in the US???
How about ditching the current tax code that rewards companies going off-shore and then rapes the average worker to cover the difference??????
Fuck you and your stupid ass Volt.
" the result will be revolution or states seceding." Are you fucking having a laugh , America will do NOTHING about this they never do they love been told what to do , chemical castration, they will keep cleaning thier guns, thats all they use them for.
Actually, America officialy died last week with the Montanna 'corporations are people and money is speech' affirmation.
Sigh...as is so often the case, folks get their shorts in a knot over the wrong things, while the really vital issues go sailing by.
Just like someone already said, if Congress wanted to investigate Holder, they shouild be probing why not one single high level banker has been prosecuted for the disaster they brought upon the world.
All we have to do is wait for November when Rommney becomes prsedent then everything will be sorted out .Voting is for tennis balls.
Fuck Bernanke! Fuck Holder! Fuck Obama!
Hell, REVOLUTION!
CONgreff should indict themselves for high crimes and shenanigans.
Congraft??
LOL! I did not know "shenanigans" was an indictable offense. ;-)
Contempt is proving to be contagious. Very contagious. Epidemic actually.
Is there anyone, other than ZH'ers, who actually care?
From what I can tell, we care about the same amount as anyone. As a person who can see all the e-mail going in and out of multiple firms, they care. I can tell by the subscriptions I'm having to allow through the firewalls. Unfortunately, they're still getting their information from either the Huffy or WND, depending on their stripe.
Pandemic would be even more appropriate
So the racist bitch gets a $1,000 fine...........wow.
I vote they jail him for 12 mos.(of course Obywan would commute it).
By EO
The Government sees us as... a thingamajig.
"It is well that the people of this nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be revolution before tomorrow morning."
-Henry Ford
The only question worth posing: Well how many exactly have to understand?
The only political competition in America in the last 100 years has been between the Communist and the Fascist. I do believe the Fascist faction is winning. Soon this “economy” of ours is going to collapse, and with it there will be a period of pure chaos as law enforcement structures break down and stop working.
There will be military dictatorship and Der Furor Obongo will be set up as the supreme commander. Look for these traitors to go for the second amendment next. The federal government is the biggest criminal enterprise to ever exist. Americans who are smart already consider themselves at war with them. But for now, the Constitution is dead; maybe the next government will re-establish it. God rest America.
Are you saying that Romney is going to throw the election?
Has it actually occured to anyone that the government can't possibly be this stupid... forcing us to pay for things we cannot while concurrently working toward bankrupting our nation and the world. The only news that matters is what's happening on an aggregate financial scale... all the governments want is to speed things along to that end while pretending to be working in our best interest, not theirs. Think about it... if they wanted more power, control and money the best way to obtain it would be to take away our constitutional rights, pass laws like the "patriot act", spin the mainstream news and make sure most of it is tabloid news... while working feverishly to steal as much as possible for the 1% as fast as possible while claiming TBTF is for "our own good"... Obamacare is for "our good"... and when we're all on the precipice of disaster, we'll be open to "their solutions" out of fear... it's brilliantly evil, I'll give them that! Their solutions will benefit them, give them more power, money and control over the 99% - this is not a mistake, it was planned. You see, they believe the 99% are morons immersed in dancing with the stars, swamp people, etc., and are doing all of this right in front of us (laughing the whole time I suspect). As the frequency, intensity and duration gets turned up of the economic crisis prepare for more stealing, manipulation, spin doctoring and most of all prepare for major changes... it's coming the writing is on the wall and the primary public catalyst for all of this was 911... start looking at the big picture and put the pieces together once the puzzle is complete, you will feel the need to fasten your seatbelts.
I will Tyler, I will pay for everything. Take a check?
peAce
I will one up you and pay for it all with thingamajigs. My slogan will be A THINGAMAJIG IN EVERY WHATCHAMACALLIT.
Bring out the dancing bears!
We're going to pay for everything by preparing for a fake alien invasion while simultaneously having a military draft. That's prosperity!
Chances that anyone will pay for F&F: 0.
The rich will pay until they are not rich and then.........
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My only regret is that I can up vote you only once.
THIS ONE IS ON ME!
Here's a IOU!
Here's the fifty IOU's I created out of thin air by backing it with your IOU.
And that's the magic of derivatives and every pension is built out of them. Every. Last. One. Make sure you don't accidentally sell the original object of value you traded away with an IOU (cough...cough..land) or it'll all collapse like a house of cards.
I just created a 1,000,000 IOU synthetic credit swap insuring against the eventual failure of your fifty IOU's.
I'm counterparty to that & just realized I need a bailout...
The $289 Trillion Problem
By: David Chapman
Two hundred and eighty-nine trillion dollars. An unimaginable amount. That is the total of derivatives outstanding at the top five US bank holding companies as of March 31, 2012, according to the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC).
http://news.goldseek.com/UnionSecurities/1340904582.php
"The criminal offense of "contempt of Congress" sets the penalty at not less than one month nor more than twelve months in jail and a fine of not less than $100 nor more than $1,000."
Will never happen
Yeah, maybe someone will show them the article in Fortune that proves the whole thing is another poitlical stunt, and began under Bush. But then, the writer pored over 2,000 pages of confidential documents over several months. And you dumb shits did how much research?
http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2012/06/27/fast-and-furious-truth/
Will never happen.........
Obnoxy: As a "dumb shit" that did actually do some research months ago, I suggest you find some more reliable information that compares and contrasts "Wide Receiver" and "Fast and Furious", and when they were each initiated and discontinued, than that quoted by CNN.
You didn't read it either, and whatever ''research'' you got from Drudge, Fox and Glenn Beck don't count.
Wow, 17 very fast readers, hitting the down arrows in a couple of cases within minutes of my post! I guess there's no time for facts when your hyper-biased minds are already made up. Hey, no skin off my ass, believe all the hosreshit you want.
You don't have skin on your ass. Research that.
I read about half of this, obnoxy, and it reads like a horrific snow job.
I question your sincerity, sir. I do wish you blessings, but I find it hard to believe that you believe what is written here. If you do (and perhaps you are right), I strongly disagree.
Sometimes things are what they look like: duplicity and arming the enemy (with taxpayers' dollars, of course). It fits a much larger pattern, perfectly.
I think the answer is everybody will pay until everybody decides not to pay.
Sounds about right since "money" is nothing more than faith. Once the faith is gone, the money becomes worthless. Since debt=money, the debts become worthless.
Of course, this is also when everyone goes apeshit over real assets. But that is another story.
currency is faith; but money is money - which do you have? faith or money?
What is the defintion of money herein?
Thanks to OneTinSoldier66 in the discussion forums, here are 2 great videos on currency versus money
Irredeemable Currency Session 1 [Video]
Irredeemable Currency vs. Gold: The Solution [Video]
Is "Holder in Contempt" a new honorary title like "Commander in Chief"?
t-minus 10 for Rev Al Sharpton and JJ to play the race card.
That already happaned yesterday.
really??? wow....dem sure iz quik
Pre-emptive strike.
if this man had any self respect he would resign today.
Self respect.
He's a lawyer for fucks sake.
First requirement of being in DC: Get rid of self respect.
I understand there's a surgery now. They sew the bottom of the heel directly to the back of the throat.
Saves a shit tonne of time for everyone involved.
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You're being a bit of an optimist. Pretty much every last shred of self respect must be jettisoned just to approach DC any closer than 50 miles.
Self respect , look at Rand Paul he got rid of everything pritty quick.
Eric holder knows Where the OKC bombing bodies ate buried.
He will get off Scott free or end up like Ron Brown.
HOLDer the check
What do mean I am out of money? I still have checks.
Cut twice. Measure Once.
I keep cutting this crown moulding and it's still to short for the wall. WTF!! Now it's going to look shitty.
It's called latex painters caulking. For those loose joints.
"who will pay for everything in this increasinly insane world, we would be very grateful. "
The ones without all the money.
Apparently it's driven by moral horror at the death of a border agent.
They're fine with hundreds of thousands of innocents dead in Iraq, and thousands of our dear boys/volunteers in that aggressive war. Hell, for that matter they argue against blaming anything on guns (remember, it's the shooter, not the weapon.)
They like Barry's Gitmo, drones, NDAA . . . fuck, all of it.
They're sure quiet about Place Holder wrt Wall Street crime.
Their arguments are devotion to life, freedom, accountability and honor.
I'm confused.
The only thing the feds could pin on Capone was tax evasion.
It's only confusing if you believe it's supposed to make sense. Once you let go of the facade, it all becomes crystal clear.
if only the constitution could cite the whole lot of em for contempt.
"Now, if only someone, somewhere can tell us the answer to the only question that matters: who will pay for everything in this increasinly insane world, we would be very grateful."
Tyler, a rhetorical question. You know as do I that the denouement of this worlds current state will be paid for in blood and treasure, with the elites the only winners.
Wake me when they're fitting the noose around his neck.
there is NO other decision other than treasonous acts against the people of the United States. fucking period.
alright Rip Van Winkle, we'll be sure to wake you when he is found guilty and has to pay for his crimes ...
It will be just awful. White wine with red meat, coloured linens, chicks wearing fruity hats...
Ridiculous rhetoric overload.
There's nothing at all "treasonous" about selling guns to criminals. It's just one of the ways our government generates revenue.
Please ... alledged criminals ...
Germany?
qui'ls mangent de le brioche
Holder should moon the house committe and show them his third brown eye.
He does that pretty much every time he opens his mouth.
Are you talking about Holder...or Obama?
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Good Point
Hmm, the Pot is calling the Holder black you say?
Nice. Kind of a racy joke, but nice.
racy is my hose girl, that joke was racist.
I thought it was widely agreed that Germany has to pay for everything?
Holder the man who got Marc Rich the pardon. Good lad.
Very very pleased with these distrctions. Now that Edwards is out of way, another show was needed. It must go on afterall.
What will come of all this work? The criminal offense of "contempt of Congress" sets the penalty at not less than one month nor more than twelve months in jail and a fine of not less than $100 nor more than $1,000.
That's easy. Obama will invoke executive privilege again.
This shit gets fuglier every day. As Homer says, "Whatcha gonna do?".
Now it appears that the TSA will be giving passes to famous people? Some people are more deserving of civil liberties than others, especially if they are famous illuminati stooges? WTF?
http://www.infowars.com/tsas-new-celebrity-free-pass-beyonce-vs-jeff-lewis/
Of course, if you don't have a private jet, it's your fault anyway, right? Get groped, irradiated, treated like a criminal, and used to it.
Beyonce has now become the perfect weapon.
But they loved that lying scum Jamie Dimon up on the Hill. My God this country is screwed up.
Eric Holder is just one more member of the criminal syndicate appointed by Obama.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, contempt of congress. I bet he's quaking in his Bruno Magli's.
it's kinda the equivalent of writing "I will not talk in class" 50 time on the blackboard after school
Another phony battle for a distraction and the illusion that there is an ideological divide in our political system today. If anybody believed that we have an actual political choice before today Justice Roberts (the Trojan horse) proved that to be a false paradigm today.
I think that is a stretch. The dissent was for throwing the whole damn thing out and not just the mandate. Is Roberts a fraud? Possibly. I think it actually shows how divided the country is on this issue. Obamacare is bad for American business and that is the bottom line.
Roberts posed as a constitutionalist against the expansion of the state. Conservatives got excited about him and were suckers into supporting him. He proved today he is at best somebody who could be bought off and at worst another statist. The basturd pulled a "it depends on the definition of the word is" today.
Exactly. The operative word being "posed" since Roberts had a very thin record ... a record that didn't prove he was an originalist.
i agree doc_E
that trojan horse thing is absolutely true, politically; i saw it, too; the symbol is valid, imo, as the end of the campaign, also
i may be wrong as hell again; i see what i'm shown; tomorrow they show me mittens getting totally rehabilitated, he soars in the polls next week! he's unstoppable now!
when he responded to the ruling by going fightClub he left the centerline derby, and prez0's roller derby team isn't gonna let him score from where he put himself here, imo
the chief justice,. a very high ranking middle-of-the-road republican doesn't seem to like mittens as a candidate... ; people did not expect this; scalia did not expect this! and neither did mittens; he responded @ perception B; perception B is not electable imo
time will tell...
Now time to impeach ToTUS.
I don't understand. What do you mean by "pay" for everything? Nobody said anything about paying. I thought that was what credit was for, when you didn't have money. It's just simply crazy to talk about paying for things, especially now with trillions charged up. I thought we were just supposed to claim bankruptcy and start all over again!
People will pay with their lives.
Old story, re-hashed for the newer generations.
Congress is racist.
Supreme Court is not racist.
You're racist. FTFY
I'm not sure how any of these government workers can be good people, even if they want to do the right thing. Whistleblowers rock, but they are few and far between, percentage-wise. There are a lot of them (if we were to try to put them in one room, for example), but they are a minority, and who ever hears about them? The press won't help them, the government deals with them (gaggings, heart attacks, and hot tubs), and the public largely doesn't know who they are. Who has the time to research all of this day after day? I'm already considered a fringe guy, and I already spend too much time on it, yet I've never even heard of this British whistleblower (below) yet.
This is an interesting story. If a guy like this has to go through all of this, what do we really expect out of Holder? or Ashcroft? In fact, who was the last AG that we could trust? Bobby Kennedy?
"I was speaking truth to power--not the truth that they wanted to hear," says this intelligence analyst on 7/7 (95% probability that it was an "inside job").
http://www.infowars.com/77-whistleblower-fired-for-exposing-false-flag/
One way of looking at it is that there's a system, a Luciferian system, in charge. Go along to get along.
What's my point? My point is that anyone who works at a high, powerful level in government (anywhere) should be suspected. They are the ones who should be considered guilty until proven innocent, not us.
well at least they found him somewhere
I'm writing a letter asking them to hold ME in contempt.
It'd be nice to make it official.
ok... this is more about Timmy G, who in this vid is called a jack-ass by the Big O.
G's an Errand Boy sent by Grocery Clerks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCN6HRoBCa0
... [work in progress...]
Eric Holder makes me yearn for the days of John Mitchell...
duh..they print it:
EU official: We have agreed to spend 120 billion euros ‘for immediate growth measures’
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/eu-official-we-have-agreed-to-spend-...
Who pays?
They the govt, who pays don't matta, they just "legislate" the programs, they don't no stinkin pay, just ask da Greeks, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Ireland and France or better yet ask some locals like the CA legislature.
It's good to see the House can come together so quickly and act on something most people don't give a fuck about, something that even began in the last adminstration.
Losers....