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A Cretan Writes A Heartfelt Letter To The Greek IRS
The Greeks, who have long since become Guniea Pigs for Europe's real time experiment in restructuring itself without actually i) impairing any debt, ii) injecting new capital, or iii) having any idea what the endgame really is, are increasingly starting to just say no and revolt. Yes - the small Mediterranean country may have fallen off the front page news briefly, or until the current government is also ejected bringing us to a repeat of late May, early June, its citizens are getting ever bolder in refusing to comply with the relentless attempts of the European superstate to syphon off as much wealth as it possible can from the weakest and the poorest.
To wit, in the letter below, posted in Greek website aixmi.gr, comes from a disgruntled taxpayer who was "assessed" some rather crusing taxes. Showing his outrage at the manner in which- especially this year- the Greek IRS tax hikes are crushing weaker, lower income families, the Cretan ctiziens has sent the following letter to the Tax Office of Ierapetra.
Read on for the the full text of his letter:
To: Dept of the Treasury, Ierapetra Tax District
Taxpayer Aretouli C. Nicholas, a resident of the County of Ierapetra.
In the Income Tax Assessment Notice that you sent me you claim a “purported” income of 8863 euros, which I never saw and never wanted to earn.
1. For my residence with an assessed value by you of 13653.68 euros as of 10/08/2010, situated in the village of Panakiana Municipality of Ierapetra, without even working electricity, you assume & declare a presumptive taxable income of 4,080 euros, about 1/3 of the property's value, while one can easily locate homes in our area with only 150 euros a month rent (1.800/annually).
2. You presume a basic subsistence income of 3,000 euros. Unfortunately for you, because of my anti-consumerist and eco-friendly ideology and lifestyle I’ve been living since 1995, me and my partner (2 persons total) survived with only 2126.5 euros for an entire year, including the cost of gasoline for my car which is used principally for agricultural work. So you’re asking for taxes representing 1/4 of my annual level of basic subsistnce!
3. For my vehicle, '91 model with engine capacity 750cc and with €300 annual insurance & registration fees costs, and maintenance covered by myself personally (as a former engineer), you assume & declare a presumptive taxable income of 2,000 euro.
After all that I analyzed above, and hereby invoking the last article of the Constitution I declare the following:
a) Faced with the choice not to eat for three (3) months or to pay the tax you’re demanding I’ll choose not to pay a single penny.
b) Faced with the choice to commit suicide or become a murderer, I’ll choose to murder you.
c) If you have not made an error with this Income Tax Assessment Notice that you’ve sent me, then you’re a bunch of cheats and scoundrels and thieves.
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HELL YEAH!!!!!
Eurocrats are hiding behind the Greek-crats. If they want that money they should get it themselves.
Molon Labe!
I misread the headline as "cretin" and thought this was a post about Angela Merkel.
Let them march all they want, so long as they pay their taxes. - Alexander Haig
This is why the Bankers want to repeal the 2nd Amendment...
1.House for $26,000?
2. surived on $4000 for two adults?
3. 750 cc engine is for motorcycles...
This guy needs to immigrate to Africa to improve his standard of living.
He probably has a great quality of life.
b) Faced with the choice to commit suicide or become a murderer, I’ll choose to murder you.
I'm hearing this kind of talk in ever increasing volume. People now have easy access to lists of names and addresses of high value targets in government and big business. Sort of like the Norwegian shooter, many people are more willing to go down in a blaze of glory taking out as many high value targets as possible. It's going to get interesting when government employees get killed in mass by disgruntled citizens.
I read a great little article in escaping to Iceland. Your money goes six times as far there. Go off the grid anyway you can or join the revolution. they leave us no alternative
And by "interesting" you mean "awesome".
And by "awesome" you mean "entertaining."
long on guillotines
Shhhhh..!
I would hope they turn their rage on bankers first. Wouldn't it be comforting to read for once that an enraged individual delivered a hail of bullets into the lunch crowd on Wall Street instead of into university students who had done nothing.
one hopes for better targets than the norwegian shooter. killing kids is for obama, israel and the rest of the terrorists.
>one hopes for better targets than the norwegian shooter. killing kids is for obama, israel and the rest of the terrorists.
Don't believe what you see in mainstream media. The average age was 18, with the youngest being 14. These people were at a camp for political young socialists. They hoped to join the gravy train, at the cost of suppressing their fellow norwegians. AB picked the right target, in deciding to take out the next generation of socialist leadership. It would have been a mistake to attack immigrants, when it is the socialists who are opening his country to race replacement.
I'm not violent. So I wouldn't have taken this action. But I consider it better than attacking immigrants.
I disagree. Norway is a very nice place to live. All Scandanavian nations are battling an indentity crisis but they have achieved something amazing. A peaceful nation thats low on crime and poverty. To build this "great society" is the challenge. The world is full of violent disfunctional nations and Norway is not one of them. No one on that island deserved to die.
These nations need to defend the peace that was hard fought, during WWII europeans were savages and brutal. Look how far they have come. The peaceful society needs to be defended against any and all threats both foreign and domestic.
A violent society is easy to build, a peaceful one is difficult.
I can't say this enough. It's going to be awful. Please prepare how to help failed family.
Actually, considering Greek's past with anarchistic groups assasinating people, it surprises me that it hasn't already happened.
It is absolutely sick to bring the Norwegian 'shooter' into this. He is a lunatic that murdered teenagers in the hope of going down in a 'blaze of glory'. There is nothing glorious about murdering teenagers, or for that matter, anyone.
750 cc for a car is perfectly doable. After all, who can forget the little car Honda made in the 70s, that had a 2 cylinder 600 cc engine. A friend's father had one for the longest time.
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009/09/curbside-classic-1970-honda-600/
Ironic.
The cars are why Europe and the rest of the world is bankrupt in the first place.
Throwing money down the rathole.
Citroen 2CV also. About five million were made, 1948-90, although the design was pre-war:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_2CV
My sister had one, long ago. This was in Britain. Tiny 602cc flat twin engine, air-cooled. It kept up with traffic OK. The earliest models had even smaller engines.
Even if they did, they can't repeal machining, chemistry or electronics.
Naah, they'll just get Justice Robama to tax 'em.
I thought I saw thetian, and thought this was about Tom Cruise.
FYI: "invoking the last article of the Constitution" refers to:
SECTION IV FINAL PROVISIONArticle 120
1. This Constitution, voted by the Fifth Revisionary Parliament of the Hellenes, is signed by its Speaker and published by the provisional President of the Republic in the Government Gazette by decree countersigned by the Cabinet and shall enter into force on the eleventh of June 1975.
2. Respect towards the Constitution and the law concurrent thereto, and devotion to the Fatherland and to Democracy constitute a fundamental duty of all Greeks.
3. Usurpation, in any way whatsoever, of popular sovereignty and of powers deriving therefrom shall be prosecuted upon restoration of the lawful authority; the limitation from which punishment for the crime is barred shall begin as of the restoration of lawful authority.
4. Observance of the constitution is entrusted to the patriotism of the Greeks who shall have the right and the duty to resist by all possible means against anyone who attempts the violent abolition of the Constitution.
Correct, excessive usury punishable by death.
If there are 2 persons on an island, only 1 has a printing press and he prints only exactly 1 dollar at .00000001% interest, the interest can not be paid because it was never printed. Interest requires a ponzi printing hyperbolic exponential increase to be payable. Eventually you headon against hyperinflation or masss property foreclosure, or both.
Death is suitable punishment for the guilty
nice
"He's from Crete. Men from that island don't make idle threats"
-Gregory Peck from "The Guns of Navarone"
awesome catch!
Crete, where men are men and sheep are nervous!
Nonsense.
"prints only exactly 1 dollar at .00000001% interest"
You can't print money at interest, but you can lend money at interest.
"the interest can not be paid because it was never printed"
False. For example, he lends me a dollar on the condition that I pay him two dollars later. I immediately use the dollar to buy a coconut from him. On two subsequent occasions I catch a fish and sell it to him for a dollar and then pay him the dollar back. Or, I sprain my ankle and I am unable to catch any fish and I default on the loan.
Charging interest doesn't mean creating money and it doesn't lead to the vicious cycle you imagine. It springs from originary interest, i.e. a person's preference for an apple now over an apple 1 year from now; interest is a vital part of coordinating production in the economy.
The kinds of problems you are worrying about are due to fraud, e.g. fractional reserve lending and Ponzi schemes.
Put the "lend" in between print and interest. You failed his to comprehend his point, because you failed to recongnize that he wrote "prints only exactly 1 dollar ..."; unless some amount of a dollar is printed in addition to the current amount, the interest can never be repaid without an expansion of the money supply.
This is the most confused explanation of money, banking and interest that I've seen here on ZH. Are you too from Princeton?
Perhaps you can enlighten us with a short explanation.
But havn't you all heard! The European leaders have discovered the solution to the debt crisis!!
View the solution here:
http://goldsilvernews.blogspot.ca/2012/07/european-union-has-found-solution.html
The elite have to getting scared.
http://jamesturkblog.blogspot.ca/
Send Herman Von Rumpboy to collect it
Or one of our grossly overpaid MP's Details from http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2012/07/16/101-golden-benefits-privileg...
A total of 20,203 euro is spent per month by the Greek parliament for each of its elected members: MP compensation, several open and hidden benefits, additional income through participation in committees as well as operational costs for their offices make it an expensive hobby for thousands of Greeks suffering under austerity, hiked taxes and unemployment.
While the lowest wage for the common mortal Greek is 450 euro per month and unemployment allowance a tip fo 360 euro for the period of one year only, a member of the Greek parliament cost the Greek taxpayer 673 euro per day!
As Prime Minister Antonis Samaras plans to cut some of these outraged benefits of our 300 Golden Boys and Girls, the whole cost has been leaked to the press, As if Samaras was thinking he would not receive the public’ support. Last week new parliament speaker Vangelis Meimarakis said, “We have to cut waste and unnecessary luxuries. We must rethink of the privileges that create negative impressions. ”
THe MPs compensations are adjusted to the Greek judges.
1) MP Compensation: 7,500-8,000 euro/month gross
According to Article 1 of the Seventh Resolution of the Fifth Revisionary Parliament (02.18.1975) shall be entitled to compensation equal to the sum of monthly salaries of all kinds of top judicial officer. Today, the compensation for each member is 6000-6500 euro net, about 7500-8000 euros gross.
2) Benefit for office organization: 2263 euro/month
According to the budget of the House in 2012, the amount to be disbursed to cover the specific allowance amounts to 8,146,900 euro or 2,263 euros per month per MP. This sum includes the mailing costs, ie the cost to send letters to voters.
3) Transport Allowance: average 473 euro/month
The transportation allowance received by each MP per month ranged from 364 to 607 euros depending on the mileage of the MP’s constituency.
4) Private MP car: average 975 euro/month
The Parliament Foundation pays for each MP a luxury car to a leasing company. According to the latest cuts, the MP from Attica are entitled to a car of 1,400cc for 750 euro per month. MPs from the several regions of Greece are entitled to car of 1,800 cc and 1,200 euro.
5) Rent allowance: 1,000 euro/month
This allowance is received by MPs from regions outside Attica prefecture. For this reason, the Parliament cooperates with several hotels. Cost per month 1,000 euro. If an MP want to rent an apartment, he/she receives the 1,000 per month.
6) Free Telephone Calls: 917 euro/month
MPs are entitled to free telephones. The annual cost of the Parliament for each MP is 11,000 euro. MPs from regions outside Attica are entitled up to eight telephone lines, and those of Attica up to seven.
7) Free Mobile: 200 euro/month
In addition to the fixed telephone MPs are entitled to free mobile device. The Parliament covers accounts up to 200 euros per month, the rest has to be paid by the MP.
Air-Tickets: 875 euro
An MP from regions outside the area of the Greek capital is entitled to a total of 104 flights/air-tickets per year. According to modest estimations, the total cost is 10,000-11,000 euro per year.
9) Two scientific councellors: 4,500 euros/month
Each MP is assigned to have four employees and two policemen. Two employees are relocated by other public sector departments, they are paid by their employers service. The other two employees, so called ‘scientific advicors’, are chosen by the MP and are paid by the Parliament. An average of 2,000-2,500 euros for each employee. That would make 300×4=1,200 employees. Parliament employees received a flat compensation of 45 overtime work hours.
10) Social security for MPs and their Families: 350 euro/month
According to Parliament’s budget for 2012, the total amount to cover these benefits amounted to 1,062,000 euros or 350 euros for each member per month.
+1) Compensation for participation in parliamentary committees (summer months incl): Average 1.150 euro/month
The planned cost is 2,875,000 euros. On the average, each MP receives an extra of 1,000 euro per month as compensation for participation in various committees (150 euro per committee meeting). MPs working in the parliament during the summer months (mid July until first Monday of October) get a special compensation [for working in summer while other go for a swim...]. Each session of the Parliament in the summer months is considered as committee-participation and gives the MP an extra of 150 euro. The total amount they receive in summer months is 1,500 euro. ( Proto Thema, Zougla.gr and others)
According the Greek media, the government considers to cut by 50% the allowances for rents and offices, by 100% the committees compensation and to close down the Parliament TV, that costs the tax payer 6 million euro per year. The cuts are to occur in the context of Samaras government seeking ways to save 11.5 billion euro as dictated by the government.
Reaction
After the benefits and allowances of the MPs were published by several Greek media over the weekend, Gerasimos Giakoumatos, MP of Nea Dimocratia, sent his compensation bill to news-portal zougla.gr: 8,267.12 euro gross per month, 5,780 euro net.
Not bad at all, if you consider the free phone, the free car and the other frees…
Cutting the Gym
In an effort to show that the Greek parliament will proceed to deep cuts in order to avoid the citizens’ outrage, parliament speaker Meimarakis decided to close the sports facilities of the available to MPs. However, Zougla.gr reported that the facilities are in a building that belongs to the parliament (no rent payment) and that the coaches are civil servants who will get pad whether they work or not.
Pretty soon there will be letters like this going out in all of Europe, Japan, the UK, and the US. The Barron's cover this week may have been the ultimate top in the government bond bubble. The following article discusses that cover and looks at the mania in US debt:
http://www.ftense.com/2012/07/long-term-government-bonds-largest.html
FANFUCKINGTASTIC! THIS IS THE ONLY WAY!
killing in self defense really shouldn't be murder. althought the greek IRS agent is just the bag man... shooting a few will send a pretty dramatic message to anyone else thinking of working for the banker occupation government.
You make it sound like self-defense.
Oh, wait a minute . . .
You left off 'D'- ......
GO Fuck Yourself !!!!
The Greek tax officials better watch their windows The last "former engineer" I heard of to get pissed off over taxes flew a plane into an IRS office.
And who can forget the math whiz who thought too much.
pods
Sadly, while his suicide was certainly spectacular, he failed to achieve his objective. He hit the wrong floor and failed to kill a single IRS employee. What a waste.
Moody's lowers Italian banks!
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/moodys-lowers-ratings-at-13-italian-ban...
been waiting and waiting for Italy's turn.... thanks for the heads up. :)
Screw "lower". Let's LEVEL them all.
O to the mother fuckin PA Bitchez!!!!
Finden Sie eine Loesung hier, Deutsche Finanzamt-Beamte in Griechenland. Sie Arcschloecher!
HEY!!! Sprechen zie 'merican?
Too late for solutions. Defend yourselves from the leaches
Love it.
"Purported" income?
What a joke.
Probably coming to the U.S.S.A. soon.
Future IRS missive:
"Since you have a high school diploma you 'could' be making $60,000 a year, therefore you owe us $9,000 even though you haven't made a penny.
Your 1984 Chevrolet Chevette is a classic antique, and therefore value taxable at $750 a year plus a $500 carbon credit charge.
Our medical records show that though you haven't been to the doctor in five years; you buy cigars and scotch and therefore will be liable for a $2,000 tax this year for future medical treatments."
etc.
etc.
some of it sounded a bit more insidious... since you did the work yourself, this is considered "imputed income" since you saved money that you would have spent... so we tax you on that imputed income... believe, they will try this everywhere.
They are going to try this here in the USA. Mark my words.
I would simply tear up the bill and chuck it.
I don't mind paying fair share, but I will be goddamn if they try to tax my future unrealized time on earth.
Actually, every unmarried/divorced father in America is well acquainted with "imputed income" by their involvement in the universal child support system.
Many, many men have done much, much jail time over this already.
The hard core family folks intensely believe in fathers paying. The hard core left folks intensely believe in fathers paying and then some.
It's all about just getting a bunch of very motivated lunatics to emote on cue and make sure the corporate media covers it.
The cultural narrative gets written. Adolf was really great at this part.
IMO, they'll definitely stick it to regular people before they claw back criminally gained assets or off-shored corporate profits.
Little people are just so much easier to deal with.
A Greek night club owner told us once that the greek taxman comes arround one weekday at night, saturday night and Sunday night and counts heads. then he taxes accordingly. no checking books expenses, receipts or anything else.
Go fight it. Crazy
That works out until it doesn't. For they KNOW who he is.
pods
I can't wait until my city requires an occupational license for me to cut my own grass or trim my own trees.
5-6 years ago, our county Building Dept. took it upon themselves to require any homeowner doing repairs or improvements to any structural, electrical, or plumbing element in their home to submit themselves for testing at their offices for a 'homeowners permit'. I shit you not. They had a couple PC's with a bunch of code books setup for studying after which you would take a computerized test and find out if you passed. The test 'fee' was like $50-60 in addition to the permit. They actually had notices plastered on the special order, window/door & kitchen order desks, and the checkout counters stating that any purchases of certain items required the test. I figured that a $60 garbage disposal at that time would cost me about $175 total. I think that bullshit lasted about 6 months and the backlash from the residents buried that one for good.
That is nuts. I guess we all see that in one way or another though.
Most higher level repair components are unavailable for the average Joe. HD, Lowes, etc do not carry many parts that can be easily swapped out. I lost the start capacitor on my HVAC unit, and I either had to order one online, and sweat out several 90+ degree days in a house designed for HVAC, or go to a local contractor's shop and pretend I was picking it up for my company as a cash pickup. Or I could call the HVAC guys to put in a $14 dollar cap for about $150 bucks.
Let's say that outside of a gentleman's establishment, that was the best $14 bucks I ever spent!
pods
And they are still all made by the Chinese. I had a $2500 A/C unit that I could buy online, same unit, but the mobster HVAC guys want $7500 to install it, and three days! When I pointed out I could buy it online, their answer -"Installers won't touch customer purchased equipment." FUCK them.
Our county is doing something similar but with septic systems. If you have a septic system, you have two choices...either get it professionally checked out and certified every two years or pay $200 to take a class and inspect your own system and register the results with the county. The last I heard, you have to retake the class every five years. They get you either way, don't they?
You don't have to wait, just move to Brimingham.
They;ve done this for a long time.
Knew a roofer who did real well but did;nt file.
When they caught up to him they just added up his "Lifestyle" and came up w/a huge amount due.
Probably coming to the U.S.S.A?!?!?!
Talk to anyone with a significant amount of their wealth in land, buildings, or equipment. You would be suprised by the assessed values being claimed by government paper-pushers, most of which who can't even say the name of the item correctly, much less correctly assess its value.
The system can't crash fast enough for some of us, just saying.
One "Tourettes" lathe- value: $5.5 mil
My buddy's child support is based on "purported income", I shit you not. The judge told him, "this is what you used to make, so this is what you are obligated to pay". My friend said, "that was then, this is now (former homebuilder)". Judge said, "I don't care".
Your friend; "come get it motherfucker."
That has been his attitude, and so far they haven't locked him up.
Why would they? Especially if he is still working (paying taxes) and still using FRNs. Let him stop working and start using PMs, then they will lock him up at Gitmo before you can say terr...
Judge says..."Thirty days for contempt of court. Another outburst and we'll make it sixty."
That's how it works. You play ball, or they make sure you have zero verifiable income.
Ask any progressive what the thought process is behind throwing someone in jail thereby guaranteeing he has 0 income, from which alimony or child-support could otherwise be garnished, when the puported reason they need to be thrown in jail is for ... not paying alimony or child-support. Prepare to be called a male-chauvinist pig.
Edited post. Decided not to call you a dumb ass.
I sort of agree, and I don't like that.
lol...
In the divorce, the ex and her asshole attorney tried to base alimony on the income I earned for a job I lost five years prior.
Now you go to jail for not paying support based on phantom imputed income.
And the Constitutional right of bankruptcy? Forget it. Congress has all but stripped the purpose of that healthy and necessary tool of capitalism and freedom.
Can't pay alimony or taxes? Tough shit. You'll be thrown in jail until you do.
Why buy the cow when you can rent? Milk isn't that expensive.
Some guys don't want to share the udders.
And besides, the standard heffers are enough to make a person go asia-tarian.
And surely don't default on that credit card debt...
The banks write it off and send you a w-2 as the write off is now considered
"earned income" on your part.
There are entire seminars in the accounting/tax community dedicated to taxing the "income" from loan write-offs
In B.C. the law states i owe 50% of gross due to time together with the ex. At at 45% tax rate she would be entitled to pretty well all of my take home. She has been accepting 50% of my net which is all i offered. Now she wants more but there is this little thing called Offer and Acceptance that may rock her world.
50% of gross, you can't make this up. She should be in banking.
It's tax deductable, so you would get a killer refund at the end of the year.
Understood but, as a sales guy, something sticks in my craw when i have to rely on the Government to pay my income. Work all year then hope for a return mid next year does not sound sexy to me.
And they used to say we abolished debtor's prisons.
Let's not overlook the passport they confiscate when in arrears.
“Sovereignty itself is, of course, not subject to law, for it is the author and source of law; but in our system, while sovereign powers are delegated to the agencies of government, sovereignty itself remains with the people, by whom and for whom all government exists and acts.”
[Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356; 6 S.Ct. 1064 (1886)],
It is for exactly this reason that we the people were fraudulently converted into legal fictions, equivalent to corporations that are without god given rights but exist rather with mere prviliges that can be taxed, fined and regulated.. Dont believe me?.. just look at your birth certificate and your god damn drivers license.. who the hell spells their name in all caps? The state does.. Why? to make u subservant to them. From the day you are born to the day u sign the dotted line to receive a drivers license privilige. The state has been working feverishly to assure your subservancy The only entities that can receive privileges from the state like driving, earning a wage, adding an extra bathroom in your basement are creatures of the state.. aka, coprations!
Now that youve never challenged but rather, accepted this status from birth then in adulthood you willingly contract with the state (of course without knowing) and have accepted to be at the bottom end of the natural order. From then on you conduct all your business using this same identification that tells the courts who you are so that every law, code, administrative infraction they create u are subordinate to. May your chains weigh lightly upon you... Call me when the revolution starts...
I repeat, when the average wage earner quits prepaying tax on income, the US will see massive default. The US IRS has been exceptionally deceptive in coercing compliance by holding out a possibility of a "return" of excessive tax withheld by annual filing of voluntarily signed self incriminating 1040s.
The system began with the advent of frns. As long as one uses the currency of the matrix one will play by the rules of the currency's creators. If one chooses to use constitutionally mandated coined money as legal tender, one lives off the grid.
End the fed and return to sound currency. Starve the beast, imo.
The State of California already does this. They assume you owe them tax, deduct that amount from any accounts they can find and throw the burden of proof on you the consume... I mean citizen.
Boom Goes the Dynamite
Damn. Way to go man.
Let 30 or 40 million Americans do this, blank tax form, similar letter, then just what the fuck is the IRS going to do? It would clog the courts for DECADES.
The fact that this is begun -- and we're talking about it -- means the Greater Crisis is already baked into the cake.
It may take 6 months or 2 years, but regardless, IT'S OVER. WE HAVE A GENUINE BANKSTER-INDUCED MACRO SHTF ON OUR HANDS.
Hedge accordingly, Fight Club.
Watched it again last night. re my ex and alimony my favorite line:
"we are a generation of men raised by women. I'm wondering if another woman is really the answer" Tyler Durden
Whadda ya want? A generation of men raised by men?
They call us SPARTANS!
Drone your ass, although that would not be to expensive on the long term. Fema camps is more likely.
it all comes down to how many people wake up and resist... if you reach critical mass, the system loses control... but they will employ extreme methods to keep that critical mass from forming.
I have some rather extreme methods of my own. Easily teachable as well.
The sheeple stampede?
Didn't you figure it out that the system is such that the average wage earner pays the tax in advance and the return you sign at the end of the year is in anticipation of a "return" of excess tax with held? The US system is exceptionally devious in this regard. (By the way, it's only a legal document if you signed it voluntarily, as one cannot be compelled to be a witness against oneself according to the US constitution. Why we voluntarily choose to bill ourselves remains a mystery to me.)
If individual wage earners were allowed to file quarterlies like business owners are required to do there would be massive default. Until then, if one plays with the currency in circulation, well, then you play by the currency creator's rules.
On the other hand, if one were to use constitutionally mandated coined money for legal tender, that's playing off the grid in my book. frns are for use inside the matrix, much like that big red juicy steak the traitor ate in the movie.
They could watch a documentary on Argentina and know what to do. We have to do it in the US too. I don't want to do it ether. That's how the technocrats (little Hitlers) systematically collapse countries wherever they go. Although I think in Argentina the banksters could get geographically away from their victems.
'I’ll choose to murder you.'
Like I was saying in another post, "The paramilitary hit squads are headed for the Banking Families of the World." People are being driven to it. It is a natural outcome.
I will never allow them to interfere with my happiness only increase my development of Buhdism within my life. Mayswell die happy if you have to go.
Paramilitary units arrives at Villa Honcho Banker. Banker's stooge rushes out to meet the paras.
"How much equipment will you fellas need to do the job right?"
Paras leave Villa Honcho Banker the next day with a couple of new Humvees and enough cash to arm themselves for the 'real' battle. And the right to come back again later.
SIR JOSIAH STAMP,(President of the Bank of England in the 1920's, the second richest man in Britain): "Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits".
This guy is not a Cretin.
....but he is from Crete!
He is a Cretan writing to cretins.
Sheeple everywhere could take a lesson is righteous piss & vinegar from this true Greek hero.
Opa! Bitchez!
The Sheeple in Greece are scared..especially when the guy with the high black boots shows up next to the fence...
Pass the ouzo and the ammo.
Bout fucking time....he ain't payin Bitchez....
ALERT!!!!!
AMERICANS....GROW SOME FUCKING BALLS...
Disclaimer: I ain't paying the tax men (read bitch ass bankers)
N O T H I N G......fuck off.......
The solution is always higher taxes.
Ya Baby Ya! Revolt time!
hundreds of years of resistance continues
fuck the arabs/persians, fuck the venetians, fuck the turks, fuck the germans, and fuck the modern day politicans of greece who serve their wall street/german masters instead of the people.
http://www.sfakia-crete.com/sfakia-crete/history.html
The solution was an easy one. You could have followed Icelands example.Instead your elected representatives sold you into slavery. So now you have two choices, live on your knees or die on your feet.
most young people voted for syriza (anti-bailout - the closest we would be to iceland) but of course the older people voted for the status quo to maintain their pensions and salaries.
in due time
Hoping that some political party will improve life is fuckin' pathetic.
With this mindset nothing will change.
As it is now a no vote would have been way better and stronger message.
"The idea is not to die for your country.
It is to make the other poor dumb bastard die for his."
from (roughly) the movie "Patton", as give by George C. Scott.
Hitler already had to admit they put up a hell of a fight
Feudal lords were never so bold as to declare that much in tax.
Just gather on Sitagma and Hang all traitors of Greek People. You wouldnt be mistaking who ever you hang from politicans they all deserved in last 40 years.
Maybe us business owners,you know,who never did anything ourselves,
went on an unpaid tax collectors strike.
Just stop sending witholding taxes to the treasury for a month or three.
Keep it in cash(outside the banks),in a safe somewhere.
Just a thought.
Everybody started a business for you, why didn't they start one for me? WTF?
Wouldn't happen in the US, because this guy would be given so much free shit for his vote and he would have zero tax.
The staff of the Greek treasury are probably paid on commission basis! It's just a matter of time this method spreads tru-out the west.
Shame on Greece.
California is already trying to collect on taxes that are not owed to them by out of state residents.
You got that right! We moved out of CA in 2002. Every once in awhile, I still get a dang bill from the f--ked up CA DMV. For a vehicle I do not even own anymore. It was destroyed and totalled in an accident in 2000. All paperwork was up to date when it was totalled, and it was fully paid for. It's been twelve years, WTF???
I've not paid them, I send them back and tell them to get stuffed! ;-)
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+1
If they send another, wipe your ass with it before returning it.
Naww, they'd just take a DNA sample and use it at a murder scene somewhere.
But how are we supposed to subsidize all of his neighbors?
How many Greeks live on 2,000 Euros per year?
If people can live there that cheaply, then why the fuck does that country need billions and billions of bailout cash?
Fuck the banks. Fuck Bernank.
It takes about 14 thousand to break even here in the South.
The letter writer is similar to the 'poor who pay no taxes' in the states. The taxman going after them shows just how desperate they are...
Can you imagine the taxman sending letters like that to people who make less less than 14k per year? I don't think the response letters would be so polite. I imagine Molotov cocktails and gunfire would be in order
I would guess that most people earning less than 14k/year probably don't even open their mail, and possibly can't read even it even if they did.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_the_United_States
Mutley, you bad dog!
Dick Dastardly is falling and wants you to save him!
Fetch!
Europe's mostly been disarmed, happened progressively after WW1 when the solidiers, after getting kinda "Bolshie", put the fear... of God.... into any technocratic 'Statist'. UK Troops, for example, where not sent back immediately after WW1 for obvious reasons.
Still lot's of AK's from the 'former' eastern bloc are available. Shame they got no fuckin' euros :/
Hell ya ! Remember Iceland !
And tell US bondholders - - "Too bad guys, we're defaulting. We can't impoverish our citizens for decades in order to pay you interest. We'd never be able to grow out of the debt or pay it down anyway. - - Put us on a cash basis - or we'll trade you goods that you want for what we need from you. We're dropping the tax incentives for companies operating overseas and making America a magnet for new industry (low taxes). We're especially sorry about you China - and how much of our paper you hold, but look at it this way. When we started going over there in the 70s you guys were a 3rd world communist pit that could barely feed yourselves. We chased profits and outsourced a lot of industry to you guys. (Screwed over our own workers/citizens). Yeah, we owe you money - - - but you'd never have gotten it if we didnt set your modern economy up in the first place. So, let's call it even . . . and move on from there. You weren't gonna get the money anyway. Why waste time on a dog that wont hunt ? We're freakin' not gonna give you Vegas as a partial payment !
DOG WILL HUNT !!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfvEdQbsWGw
and les claypool ofc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBQ2305fLeA
there are certain aspects of american culture that i would never wanna see go down despite the imperialistic politics and attitude in that very culture. to be honest i would share the last piece of bread with primus and many other guys from the non-mainstream scene in the States.
It's only a matter of time.
Moody's downgrades Pennsylvania on pensions, economy
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/16/moodys-pennsylvania-downgrade-idUSL2E8IGBGQ20120716
DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR THESE GREEKS!!!
THEY NEVER PAID TAXES IN THEIR LIVES BUT EXPECT EVERY SERVICE!!
THEIR CREDE:
I'M THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON AND I WANT EVERYTHING I NEED.
People should really learn that no system works like this. people can't act like they are parasites!
Sure they can choose to not pay taxes! sure! but don't expect anything in return either.
What makes you think this person expects anything from his extorters? He just wants to be left alone.
The idea that the gvt is a service company is ridiculous. If their services would be any good, they offer them voluntarily and people would buy them.
But they stink so badly, they have to be mandatory. It's a racket.
Ever been to Greece?
I was there last summer, beautiful, much like the American southwest, very arid. I suspect it is very difficult to feed their population with the profits from pasticcios, and olive oil.
Some of what you say may be true. But this game has been played before. That is, bankers making deals with politicians that put everyone in debt (then the politician leaves office with a nice cushy bribe in some form or another). Later the bankers demand payment for their 'loans' (but loan of what, gold & silver ? or just another form of made up 'money'?) The bankers demand 'austerity' - - they want the resources and labor of the citizenry for marginal deals they made knowingly. In the case of Greece, their past financial history was well known - as was their current financial condition.
All the made up loaned 'money' is bullshit. Nothing but a way to turn people into serfs.
How come we never hear about Iceland in the mainstream 'news' ?
Confessions of an Economic Hitman comes to mind.
pods