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Dalio On Gold: Buffett Is Making A Big Mistake

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We discussed Bridgewater's Ray Dalio in depth late last week and his historical perspective on the world we are living through. It appears CNBC has found this intriguing too and the largest hedge fund manager in the world has been espousing his views all morning. Most notably he very concerned at the possibility for social unrest (just as we have pointed out again and again) highlighting the rise of Hitler in 1933 and its parallels to the current social disruptions around the world as global economies sufffer painful deleveragings. His suggestion is that gold "should be part of everybody's portfolio" as he explains the reality of the endgame of fiat monetary systems. As far as Warren Buffett's distaste for the yellow metal, he opines "I think he is making a big mistake."

 

 


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Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:27 | Link to Comment Comay Mierda
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its been a while since the last PM slam down.  and its options expiry day.

Beware the Blythe

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:30 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Beware the Blythe

 

What is my bidding Mistress?

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:35 | Link to Comment Pladizow
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Browns Bottom and Buffets Blunder!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:40 | Link to Comment BaBaBouy
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Notwithstanding Bufflet Or The Paper-Manip Gang...

GOLD $50K Bitchezzzzzzz ...

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:45 | Link to Comment BaBaBouy
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"" Beware the Blythe ""

 

Beware the Good-Folks at AIG...

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:04 | Link to Comment Thomas
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I am 55% precious metals; the smack downs smart a little.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:10 | Link to Comment Au Member
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I've been 90% AU/AG since 07, smack downs mean fuck all to me unless they go to $700/oz and $12/oz

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:00 | Link to Comment Comay Mierda
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its been a while since the last PM slam down. and its options expiry day.

Beware the Blythe

hate to say it, but I told you so

Blythe's algo army will be blessing us with a nice dip soon

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:41 | Link to Comment Pladizow
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Dalio is 10 years late, why listen to him now when he says, "...gold should be a part of everyones portfolio, BUT NOT IN A BIG WAY."

At least it only took him 10 years to be half right!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:07 | Link to Comment Thomas
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Do you know that he had no gold? I am thrilled that we are past the "crazy bastard" phase of the bull market and into the "smart money" phase (Dalio, Einhorn, Paulsen, China, Russia, India, Vietnam,...). I am waiting for the gold detractors to go all in. Then I hope to quietly find a better alternative--exit the pool--because the market will then throw the toaster in.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:43 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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Wait for the majority of the general public to jump in - they'll get in after the 'smart money' and that will be when things really get crazy.  I think back to the Bre-ex days in '96 or '97, whenever it was - everybody I knew, people who'd never invested or speculated in their lives, could tell me what gold stock I needed to own.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:54 | Link to Comment BoNeSxxx
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Buffet only says he isn't bullish on the barbarous relic...

I bet the wrinkled old cadaver is stacking like a mofo under the table.  It's never about what they 'say' they are doing... gotta watch what the hand under the table is doing.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:22 | Link to Comment franzpick
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Hasn't The Oriface of Omaha already demonstrated his PM expertise with his 2005 sale of 37% of the available ag supply, which he accumulated at $6, to Barclay's, at $7.50, for the SLV etf start-up?:

http://www.silvermonthly.com/analyzing-warren-buffetts-investment-in-silver/

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 14:47 | Link to Comment Bananamerican
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"I am waiting for the gold detractors to go all in."

"The Day Of The Denninger"

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:36 | Link to Comment BaBaBouy
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GOLD

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:39 | Link to Comment theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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Note goldbugs "not in a big way"

I took a 50% treasuries, 50% apple position 5 years ago. I saw what the smart money was doing and simply followed suit. A guy like Bernanke doesn't make mistakes with what he buys - thats where I got my guidence, and I've been richly rewarded. Gold simply relies on the greater fool theory, as it doesn't produce anything and isn't backed by a government. Sure markets could stay irrational and gold could go higher in the short term (thats why its ok to have a small position); but in the long term markets always find equilibrium. Thats why I'm getting ready for the biggest wealth transfer in history from unbacked sterile assets like gold to fully government backed assets like treasuries.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:49 | Link to Comment Mercury
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Backed by what?

The full faith and credit of the United States government?
Have you even thought about what that means and what it doesn’t mean?

 

I’m sure you will get your principal back.

The question is, how many loaves of bread or gallons of gas will you be able to buy with it?

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:08 | Link to Comment Thomas
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There was a reporter who claimed that "gold isn't backed by anything but the dollar is backed by the full faith of the US Government." I kid you not. I blew a double-barrelled snot bubble.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:53 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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Gold not backed by anything!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZLL2r3hXmjA

*this is a special edition of this clip with the remastered soundtrack of Ben and Krug in the background

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 11:54 | Link to Comment Precious
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,000

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:48 | Link to Comment Darth Sidious
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seriously?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:12 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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MDB stop that, you know as I do that the S&P and Treasuries are following exactly the pattern of 1932-1937, the rally is just the uncorking of the pressure inside the deflation scare bottle. Had the Fed not made the mistake of raising the rates in late 1938, the Treasuries would have entered its multi-decade bear market not in 1941 but in 1938. The Fed is not making the same mistake, the bond bubble has just popped, as for Stocks they will do what they did between 1937 and 1950, during the deleveraging phase. Go nowhere, stock will get exciting when we start a new leveraging phase. Everyone here was long equities expecting the uncorking of deflation pressure, but they you get smacked back when monied capital converted back into circulation. Inflation was picking up nicely between 1933 and 1937 until the Fed did its 1938 blunder. 

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:32 | Link to Comment i love cholas
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You're assumption assumes full faith last forever. I recently took a trip to Mexico City and saw churches and cathedrals decorated with gold. The value of that gold that was put in place in the 1500's has only gone up, while the Spanish Armada is under the sea and modern Spain's end game is currently approaching. Gold.Gold.Gold

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:08 | Link to Comment Biosci
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I think his assumption is actually quite different.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:30 | Link to Comment tocointhephrase
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More like Blythe beware, your getting squeezed and no its not a hug

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:40 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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The Chinese have programed their gold (and silver) buying computers to automatically BTFD with a vengeance. They are demanding physical delivery too. I personally think the days of massive take downs  have come to an end.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:56 | Link to Comment Comay Mierda
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I hope you're right.  I just keep thinking about what happened to oil on monday.  its an election year and the margin-hiker-in-chief would really appreciate it if tell-tale signs of inflation are suppressed

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:47 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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What really matters is the 30 years bonds, once it gets to 4 to 4.5 % lift a bit of your gold because a higher embedded inflation expectation relieves Bernanke from printing. As long as we at at 3% or close you are safe, Bernanke keeps printing. Soros Sold in 2011 because of that, he thought Bernanke had managed for force inflation expectations up and managed to force the dishoarding of cash from the Rich and the Corporations.

 

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 19:35 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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Exactly my point, the Fed can not afford Japan who lost control of yield curve. Banking School XIX century, if you start to have long bond moving upward you create a dishoarding and prices rise forcing spending.Today that would the rich and corporations forced to spend by manipulating inflation upwards.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:28 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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"His suggestion is that gold 'should be part of everybody's portfolio'......"

The rush into Gold by the great unwashed will be breathtaking in its scope and ferocity. Buy early and often. And don't forget Silver, the junior Gold.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:45 | Link to Comment midtowng
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The sheeple (at least those in America) are still unaware that gold is a good investment. By the time they figure it out it'll be during the parabolic blow-off when gold is no longer such a good investment.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:30 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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Gold is not an investment, it is a commodity form of money. Investment is monied capital (bonds and stocks) the stuff levered on top of the circulation, the cycle is the move from one to the other and back and forth. The cycle are very short under metallic standards, but very long under elastic money. Silver is money printing, it is hoarded when Gold is overvalued into jewelry and forks and stuff, and is printed, dishoarded and coined into money when there is a credit contraction so that people can helpf the shortfall of circulation in relation to credit, or used by shrewed investor in order to buy assets at a discount. A bimettalic standard is always more stable for this reason. A monomettalic standard does NOOOOOTT  allow you the extra tire in the back of your truck. A repressed bullion flow with artificially low price of Gold and on top of that a split between the bank issue and deposit bank is castrophic stuff. The Bank of England between 1829 had no issue acccomodate the flow of bullion out of England, it came right back by 1831-1832. Once conditions became better the Silver is hoarded back, or the Gold is hoarded back if there is a big Silver mine discovery in between. A bimettalic standard with free-flow of bullion, bank of issue and deposit bank under the same roof with large level of bullion in the bank is absolutely superb stuff (French monetary standard until 1873 was the most stable stuff out there.)

 

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:59 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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Circular argument, everything is circular in Finance.

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:53 | Link to Comment Ricky Bobby
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Ray Ray talks of beautiful deleveraging, well what is going to be beautiful will be driven by Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds. When the shiny explodes into the consciousness of the masses it will make iMania and Black Friday look tepid.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:28 | Link to Comment edb5s
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What happened with gold this morning?  Up to 1785.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:30 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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"You hear that Mr. Anderson? That is the sound of inevitability."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIbEj1CIpuU

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:41 | Link to Comment Freebird
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More of the masses waking up

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:29 | Link to Comment EnglishAustrian
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Buffet may well be right for him. He can see ways that his wealth can be invested for a better return than a short term improvement in gold price.

Personally, I am not so confident in my abilities so for safety have bought silver and held onto what gold I have.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:36 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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My guess is that Buffet does not give a shit.  He has more than enough for his remaining days.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:12 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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Realistically, what more do you need than a bathtub, rubber ducky, Mr. Bubble, and a CNBC anchor to rub and tug?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:35 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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BUffet knows only the leveraging cycle assets (bonds and stocks).

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:29 | Link to Comment tocointhephrase
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There you have it Warren is a BIG mistake!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:30 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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So is everybody waiting in line for your new iPhone 7?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:36 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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I don't know about you, but I'm waiting for QE7.

<Am I in the wrong line? Cus I can move if I am.>

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:38 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Let's see we are technically at Qe5 when you ...it seems like we get a new qe around each new iPhone release. But since we now have qe to infinity I don't know how we are going to keep track.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:54 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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I proposed numbering it like the early Windows OS versions.

3.0

3.1

3.11

etc

Each time they increase the monthly amount of the never ending purchases (or they change the purchases to stocks, ETF's etc) we can change the number to the right of the decimal.

The Fed's last bullet to the head (large checks in the mail to each household/person, most likely through its proxy the US government) will be the official QE 4.0

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:00 | Link to Comment fuu
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Did you include cash for clunkers in your count?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:02 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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iPhone 3gs

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:30 | Link to Comment falak pema
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could be that WB's aversion to gold goes back to his father's days; he was a true gold bug!

There is an element of father-son rivalry in this; it sounds Freudian in its origin! 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:34 | Link to Comment kridkrid
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rise of Hitler in 1933 and its parallels to the current social disruptions...

http://www.peikoff.com/lr/home.htm - This book was written nearly 30 years ago and it's been at least 20 years since I read it, but it was interesting at the time and more true by the day. 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:45 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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Buy and read a copy of Hitlers Mein Kampf. You'll be astounded at the parallels to the current political policy.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 22:45 | Link to Comment topspinslicer
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Leonard Peikoff is affiliated with the great Ayn Rand and was a regular guest on the Mark Scott radio show which I always enjoyed listening to in my formative years

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:33 | Link to Comment new game
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the 99 percenters will just have to settle for the poor mans(and woman-not to be sexist)gold...

finally something makes sense!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:36 | Link to Comment dwdollar
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How's that "beautiful deleveraging" working? Doesn't sound good if he's talking about Hitler 2.0.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:42 | Link to Comment kito
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dalio he feels that the banking institutions getting bennybucks bailouts, while u.s. citizens absorb their losses in the form of trilions in debt, is "beautiful deleveraging"....he openly stated that the u.s. SHOULD NOT WORRY ABOUT TOO MUCH DEBT, BUT SHOULD WORRY ABOUT AUSTERITY................why, again, are we listening to dalio??????????

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:44 | Link to Comment EvlTheCat
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Because it goes along with the meme.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:52 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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BEcause he understands leveraging ==> converting circulation into monied capital leveraged assets (bonds and stocks) and Deleveraging selling monied capital (Bonds and stocks) and make them enter the circulation. Hard Assets are linked to circulation, leveraging up represses them, and deleveraging push them up, old school banking of XIX century knows that. When you are in non banked system (David Hume) you have absolutely no cycle of leveraging and deleveraging and commodities are flat for centuries.

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:16 | Link to Comment kito
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very nice whitenight, however the fed is leveraging for the benefit of insolvent banks, while the deleveraging is carried on the shoudlers of the citizens through forced bankruptices and foreclosres....and in increases in unsustainable u.s. debt levels......and this is beautiful to you whitenight?.....are you for real? 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:58 | Link to Comment oddjob
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At what price point will you eat your shoes on Gold?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:03 | Link to Comment kito
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hyperinflation..............until then i stand where i stand................

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:26 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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Kito, do not be silly, a war can do the trick in forcing paper cash hoarders to dishoard. If more people do what you do this is the end (circular). Help the FEd, buy Gold and short a bit of long bond to scare the Rich and Corporations into inflation and force them to spend their fiat cash (hopefully not all in inflation assets because that is hyperinflation). What they will spend (capex, 2 Ipads per person in rich households whatever stuff they like it does not matter) and increase circulation as a result.

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:32 | Link to Comment jimmyjames
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hyperinflation..............until then i stand where i stand................

***************

There's a great contrary indicator-

Someone who believes gold is all dollar related-

We haven't had hyper-inflation yet and gold keeps powering up-unseen by the ones who misunderstand deflation/credit destruction and gold-

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:38 | Link to Comment new game
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i say fuck wb and his big inside game.  maybe he is loosing contol slowly but surely as true market forces flaten his returns.

bigger they are the harder they fall and his day has arrived!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:41 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Dude......he's a chick.

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:40 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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My guess is that Buffett loves gold...............but he would never say that in public...........

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:11 | Link to Comment kridkrid
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his father did... google buffett and the gold standard.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:04 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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We need a much higher price of Gold and higher 30 years yield (rising inflation expectations) to force large corporations and the Rich to dishoard and spend their cash into the economy.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:30 | Link to Comment kito
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but whitenight, why would the rich want to spend it when they can ride the coattails of bernakes "leveraging" of the s&p to the moon????.......dust off your nose, its covered with textbook ink...step outside....perhaps you will see that there isnt a damn thing corporations can spend their money on regardless of yields because the u.s. has massive structural, not cyclical,  problems that are being masked by "beautiful deleveraging"...............

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:52 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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Two reasons

1. The rally in stocks is the latest part of the relief rally from deflation scare like 1932-1937

2. Each QE is less and less effective for stocks, and the latest QE is the last one, not more new thing to salivate about for Equity ignorants, the only thing the stock market can digest is when he will stop and why he would do that and what that means. They have not figure it out yet.

 

NOTE

The best that can happen now is not a plunge in stock (deflation scare annhilated with printing and shorting of long bond), but stocks moving sideways and long bond YIELD  creeping up slowly. That will discourage the rich, they will not know what to do with their cash and will get more and more tempted to indulge into spending their capital. Corporate margins have peaked.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:50 | Link to Comment Atlantis Consigliore
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Hitler. HITLER?  Gold GOLD Now? I thought Hitler got foreclosed and sold the Camero!!!, isnt he pushing porn in Florida?

No?  oh,  REEL real estate again... in florida condos 10 cts on the dollar, for rentals....SECURITIZED THRU FRAUDIE SOMETHING IN WASHINGMACHINE,  LOL. 

iTS BOTTOMED calling all cars, calling all cars, Real Estate has bottomed, got you red hots.

THE BS ON THE NOTHING BC SHOW, OR FRAMER SAYS SO....LOL, 

http://youtu.be/ioe_mzxhk4M     Ill bid on the camero.....

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:56 | Link to Comment DavosSherman
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Hysterical, now the momos 10 years late to the party, the fucking momos who missed out on doubling their and their clients money 3 times, are now calling the rest of the momos out for making a misstake.

http://www.psychopathiceconomics.com/DavosEconomicForum/2012/09/08/hells-floodgates-just-opened/

http://www.psychopathiceconomics.com/DavosEconomicForum/2012/02/25/buffett-i-was-dead-wrong/

Last year, I told you that “a housing recovery will probably begin within a year or so.” I was dead wrong

He then goes on to bash gold like the Va#ina-wall-decorating-NYU-Professor whose investment research firm is $2 million in the red.  I think gold has doubled since he began bashing it.  How he teaches teenage girls or gets anyone with an IQ larger than their shoe size to listen to him on CNBS is another great mystery.

Buffett continues:

The major asset in this category is gold, currently a huge favorite of investors who fear almost all other assets, especially paper money (of whose value, as noted, they are right to be fearful). Gold, however, has two significant shortcomings, being neither of much use nor procreative. Link to rest on Zero Hedge.

Being fearful is a serous understatement .  According to Ludwig Von Mises:

“There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved.”

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:01 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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whats Buffett care about Gold.....he will be dead before he needs it

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:03 | Link to Comment fuu
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So should we be sewing it into our clothes Dal-dal-dalio?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:04 | Link to Comment NRGIsFree
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Does not seem to know much about the recent history of gold as an investment. He said, "Gold is a little bit better than cash". Lets look at the last ten years of gold as compared to cash or even the crock market. How can a guy in his position miss this. Oh well, get it while it's cheap!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:09 | Link to Comment riphowardkatz
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he made a big mistake, he is making a bigger mistake

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 19:39 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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In the last two months the mistake grew bigger.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:09 | Link to Comment larz
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The oriface of Omaha wrong!? no way he has piles of paper assets and obama's ear!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:34 | Link to Comment Tuco Benedicto ...
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Behind the scenes "The Liar of Omaha" is probably buying physical gold with both hands.  Well, with one hand anyway, with the other holding an ice cream cone for effect.

Tuco

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:45 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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Bingo - when he tells you he has no gold, I think he's full of shit.  He's way to tied in to NOT be into gold, just doesn't want the lemmings following just yet.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:34 | Link to Comment Element
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Didn't this guy say the US is, "... having a beautiful deleveraging ..."?

He must have meant Iceland.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:49 | Link to Comment booboo
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I have lived a long time and have seen many uber wealthy shit shoveling meglamaniacs being chased down runways, to their armoured cars and limos only to be cut down by the mass of pissed off serfs and what do they find? a sack of dollars, (when dollars meant something) and drumroll................GOLD BARS.

Don't kid yourself, Buffet owns physical, he will never admit it because it threatens his paper kingdumb.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:03 | Link to Comment giovanni_f
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Buffett is a paper-addicted high finance profiteer. He uses to breed his deals with his banker buddies and corrupted politicians (what tautology) including the rest of those execution yard demons and operating thetan level 8 crowd behind the curtain. As a class they are not only parasitically living off the current system in a practical sense. They are spiritually committed to what they regard as a divine order within which they just do the work of god. They are simply following orders. Gold as of yet does not fit the dogma.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:17 | Link to Comment dadichris
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What do we want? Social Disruption! When do we want it? Now!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:22 | Link to Comment resurger
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Fuck Warren B

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 13:23 | Link to Comment akak
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There is not enough Viagra in the world to make me do that.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:40 | Link to Comment RiskAverseAlertBlog
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You can't eat gold, and in the rising rate environment central bank hyperinflation is sure to bring, this along with accelerated shutdown of physical production capacity (just like in Wiemar Germany), it's hard to imagine gold will not succumb to the effects of a relentlessly deepening desperation, and so in no way "keep up" with shortage-induced price increases crushing wealth's purchasing power. Most people will disagree with this view, however most people do not take into account accelerated shutdown of physical production capacity (like that occurring presently in the oil refining business) on account of a hyperinflationary policy errantly aiming to sustain a debt burden that otherwise is unsustainable. Per Buffett, his principled view toward gold is downright patriotic to anyone familiar with the economic perspective espoused by Alexander Hamilton and those like-minded Americans who over subsequent generations subscribed to the American System of Political Economy. As such I am proud to call gold a "barbaric relic" and presently find its risk of being mixed with tungsten steel better taken in a Smith and Wesson.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 13:15 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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Read Elbridge Gerry Spaulding about the views of Hamilton, then we can talk.

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 13:57 | Link to Comment Anasteus
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I don't believe a single word Buffet is saying. He's a smart investor bluffing all those naive ones staring devoutly at him. It's laughable to be watching hot polemics over fake topics he is spreading over again. You may bet, any advice he allegedly gives to focus on something is most likely ripe for selling, just to maximize profit out of the upcoming rumour. I would bet his house is stuffed with gold up to the roof.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 13:42 | Link to Comment ChacoFunFact
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INSCRIPTIONS ON FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES
1913 . . . TO . . . 1934
"Redeemable in Gold on demand at the United States Treasury or in Lawful money, at any Federal Reserve Bank." "Will pay to the bearer on demand one dollar."

1934 . . . TO . . . 1968
"This note is legal tender for all debts public and private and is redeemable in lawful money at the United States Treasury, or any Federal Reserve bank." "Will pay to the bearer on demand one dollar."

1968 . . . TO . . . 1998
"This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private"

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 15:40 | Link to Comment NuYawkFrankie
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Re Dalio... very concerned at the possibility for social unrest and  another  HITLER -OMG!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I'm getting sick & tired of the likes of Dildo Dalio - those who profit enormously from gaming/ripping-off the system - getting all touchy-feely and concerned about the posiiblity for social unrest- which, when it occurs, will have been caused in large part by the likes of Dalio.

And, of course, just like any flim-flam misdirection artist Dildo Dalio just has to dig-up Hitler and wave his corpse in our faces - lest we have the temerity to object to the parasitic hedge-fund scammers.

And another thing: who gives a Flying F*** what that insufferable blowhard Buffet says???

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 16:12 | Link to Comment rex-lacrymarum
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'....should be part of everybody's portolio, but not in a big way'

Au contraire, it should be the bulk of one's portfolio weighting. 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 23:01 | Link to Comment ZH11
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Hitler came to power because of the depression?

What a massive simplification of the result of a 30 year problem which conveniently ignores some of the key roles 'capitalism' had in his ascension to power.

There is no Hitler in gestation just more shitbag hedge fund managers and bankers promising more solutions which enrich themselves at the cost of public purse.

 

Sun, 09/23/2012 - 09:55 | Link to Comment razsil
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It is concerning someone like Dalio says that the conditions we are facing are similar to those that made it was possible for someone like Hitler to get into power. Dalio is pointing to the overall condition that is ready to accept someone extreme as leader, not necessarily to the specific person.

 

We should listen to what he says. When Trousers and Sunsets Don’t Lie - http://rsilberman.com/?p=402 - quote quotes his statement about the need to find the truth, it is for a reason. 

 

Dalio is the best in understanding his environment and where it is going. We should all listen to him and take his warning very seriously.

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