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Dear Obese America: Uncle Sam Wants To Regulate What You Eat

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It seems that the recent foray of Mayor Bloomberg into determining what one may and may not consume based on calorie count, was just the appetizer, so to say. As some may recall, back in March we wrote that based on OECD predictions, up to 75% of the US nation will be overweight or obese. Now, none other than Uncle Sam has gotten wind that his population will soon be primarily made up of fat people. So he has a solution, which is in the vein of all other solutions where Uncle Sam is concerned: regulate, regulate, regulate.

From Bloomberg: "Governments should regulate food companies on unhealthy ingredients in products that contribute to obesity, an epidemic that now affects 1-in-3 Americans and costs the U.S. $150 billion a year, said New York City Health Commissioner Thomas Farley. More than education and voluntary action by companies is needed, Farley said. New York’s limit on sugary soft drink sales is one example of the steps governments must take to stop the rise of obesity, he said today at a press conference on the topic held by the Journal of the American Medical Association." Punchline #1: "Publicly traded food companies, charged with making a profit for their shareholders, can’t be relied upon to make their foods more nutritious, Farley said." In other words, Uncle Sam knows what is best for you, always. Punchline #2: "There is a clear role for government in the solution,” Farley said. “Obesity rates have been rising considerably for the last 30 to 40 years. If we don’t do anything, I think it is a fair prediction that they will continue to rise." Surely, when it comes to things that are soaring which will not stop soaring unless something is done, the US government knows best: after all just look at Exhibit A: the US Debt, which sadly the US government has been "regulating" pretty much since the beginning.


About 60 percent of adults in New York City are overweight or obese and 1-in-8 have diabetes, which is often caused by obesity, Farley said. A person with a body mass index of at least 30 is considered obese, according to the National Institutes of Health. The BMI is calculated using height and weight. A man who is 6 feet tall and weighed more than 220 pounds would be considered obese using the formula.


The size of a soda has increased from about 6.5 ounces in the 1960s to 20 ounces today, according to Farley. He said surveys have found that Americans eat 200 to 600 more calories a day than they did in the 1970s and that sugary drinks are playing a role in that added calorie consumption.


The city’s soda size rule is not government restriction on choice, adding that people can consume as much as they want at restaurants as long as it isn’t with a cup larger than 16 ounces, Farley said.

And just in case there was any confusion where this is going...

While the idea of government regulation on portion size is new, we think it makes all the sense in the world,” Farley said.

Our advice: eat up America. Very soon you will need permission from your friendly local government constable to not only chew, but swallow.


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Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:51 | 2811900 SHEEPFUKKER

fat tax bitchez

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:55 | 2811918 random shots
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I see an opportunity for calorie offset credits...paging Goldman Sachs. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:58 | 2811950 MillionDollarBonus_
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Every four years, we are enchanted with the Olympic spirit and each of us makes a personal commitment to eat healthy and get fit. But this Olympic year is different. The honourable first lady, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson Obama, has made a monumental effort to spread the ideas of health and fitness, not just to America, but to people all across the world. The government is not going to put up with laziness, incompetence and physical neglect any longer. This is the beginning of the war on obesity - Eliminate obesity by 2014!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:59 | 2811954 ndotken
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I'm sure the State Dept will pay Hillary's share of the new Fatass Tax, which will be considerable.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:03 | 2811986 redpill
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You fatten the country with your fucking Food Pyramid for 30 years and now there's some suprise so many are obese?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:06 | 2812005 Arthor Bearing
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Tax fast food, carb-laden shit, and soda, and use the procedes to pay for healthcare. Let people pay for their own unhealthy habits.

A similar effect could be more easily achieved by ending corn subsidies.

However we all know effective solutions will never be attempted if somebody is offended or if a political interest is threatened.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:10 | 2812013 Pladizow
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You dont allow your milk cows to commit suicide!

Is it me or is TrillionDollar Anus starting to sound more and more like Hitler:

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:12 | 2812033 Colombian Gringo
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I agree, we should regulate fat people, starting with Obama's cow of a wife. Then, we should starve Hitlery, so that she knows what it feels like to bomb arabs into democracy.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:20 | 2812083 iDealMeat
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We have a people population problem..

People are food..

Problem solved..

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:39 | 2812190 TruthInSunshine
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I get all my nutrition advice from the government. Their FDA scientists & researchers are brilliant, recommending so many carbohydrates, starches, gluten and other hyperglycemic foods.



Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:44 | 2812223 JPM Hater001
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"There is a clear roll for the government"

Can I get mine glazed and cream filled?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:50 | 2812251 Pladizow
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Hollow points solve obesity!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:10 | 2812349 nope-1004
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I do believe there is a correlation between how much one eats and how fat they are.  I could be wrong, but seems to me the solution to getting rid of fat, when 98% of the population is too lazy to exercise, is to stop going to Buffet Land.  No?


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:14 | 2812382 pods
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Of course not, it is a genetic, GMO, thyroid issue, certainy not a simple equation.

If you eat more calories than you burn or pass, you will store them.

But amerikans will go to great lengths to continue eating the way that they want to.

So there are all these twisted diets floating around that let people eat exactly how they want to.

I have posted this before, and will post it again:

If you want to reverse your chronic disease, click the link.  If you want to keep eating the way you want to and feel good about it, feel free.



Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:39 | 2812508 john39
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also, treating all calories as equal is totally incorrect.  most fat people in the United States are starving for nutrients...  thanks to monsatan and co, food is no longer food....  people have to take the world back from the corporate scum who have taken control.  you can start doing this by avoiding processed foods, and buy local, organic, non-processed foods...  and in the process, rediscover what health really is.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:44 | 2812532 pods
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I am well aware that fat people are suffering from malnutrition.  And many if not most of the western world has not actually felt true hunger.

But exactly how are calories different?

Are you speaking of efficiency of digestion between carbohydrates, fats and proteins or the source?  


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:57 | 2812612 john39
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the source....   a carrot grown in mineral deficient soil, with pesticides and herbicides, without beneficial bacteria in the soil....  is an entirely different thing than an organic carrot grown in nutrient rich soil, without toxic pesticides and fertilizers...   and I am not even referring to GM foods which are basically an abomination to be avoided....       another example...  soy, whether GM or not, is not fit for human consumption.... yes it has calories... but, if not fermented the old way (no shortcuts), a human cannot properly digest soy and it slowly destroys your health...    soy, btw, is in just about every processed food, what a surprise.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:06 | 2812653 pods
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Then you are speaking of nutrients, not calories.

I am curious as to what about soy makes it unfit for consumption or cannot be digested.


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:20 | 2812700 john39
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technically a calorie is just a measure of energy, but my point was the source of the calorie makes a huge difference... but no point in arguing about it.    as for soy, this article isn't perfect, but gives a taste of the issues:

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:31 | 2812742 pods
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So you are speaking of the phytic acid and the trypsin inhibitors?  These are mainly destroyed in cooking/fermenting.  Although the phytates are tougher to destroy.

I eat copious amounts of spinach, which is high in calcium but also high in oxalates.  These natural chelators make mineral absorption less efficient, but the phytonutrient density more than makes up for these almost macro nutrient minerals.

I am in agreement with you, and am not trying to argue. I just want to make sure that the talk about soy was not in fact the bogus phytoestrogen bitch tit argument.

Many beans in fact are high in phytic acid and must be soaked to reduce the amount.

Give that Dr. Fuhrman site a look, guy is fantastic.  I have 2 of his books and a set of DVDs.  He researchs everything and provides links to all the studies when he speaks of things.

A very thorough nutritionist who has accomplished amazing things with disease reversal.


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:41 | 2812780 john39
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Will do (on the book). I think i probably have read parts of it before as i try to read anything holistic health oriented that I can.

Soy is great for big business... horrible for people.  the old chinese knew, if you want to eat it... have to ferment it.   The old ways of food preparation were very wise...  In modern times we think our short cuts are without consequences...  but we couldn't be more wrong.  the propblem is, for most, their health is long gone before they have any clue what is happening.   then they want a pill to "fix" things...  it just doesn't work like that.

meat is another example...  mainstream medicine claims that red meat will cause heart disease... but what are they really studying?  soy fed beef.... which is totally unnatural for the animals and produces unhealthy meat.  Grass fed beef is an elixer... and will not cause heart issues even eaten regularly....  and it goes on and on.... trust the government or mainstream medicine... wind up unhealthy and prematurely dead.  pretty simple.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 17:26 | 2812939 Temporalist
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Fen-Phen Bitchez!

Didn't they stop Cookie Monster from eating cookies years ago?  I guess that didn't work.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 20:51 | 2816643 FrankDrakman
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What an ignorant pile of shit. A long term conclusive study has shown that there is ZERO difference between "organic" and regular produce, except for price. The difference in pesticides and fertilizers is made negligible by using the highly sophisticated technique of WASHING the food before you eat it.

You are as fucking clueless as the AGW whiners. BTW, Antarctic ice hit a record expanse for this day of the year today. What is it about you true believers that makes you cast away all the evidence that your theories are full of - and in this case, it's the literal truth - shit?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 17:26 | 2812894 1911A1
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fat != protein != carbohydrates.  All calories are not the same.  The calorie source matters in terms of macronutrients.

It also matters in terms of metabolic efficiency.  As an example, gluconeogenesis is about 70% efficient, but there are more effects than just this when on a low/no carb diet:

The human body can live without carbohydrates, it can not live without protein and fat.


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 20:10 | 2813397 pods
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The brain's preferred energy source is glucose.

I will not argue with someone who wishes to live on fat and protein.

Like I said, we will go to great lengths to prove that our preferred diet is healthy.

The most long lived peoples (see The China Study) consist on a diet that is based on whole foods and is primarily vegetarian.  These peoples also avoid our chronic metabolic diseases such as cancer and heart disease.



Wed, 09/19/2012 - 22:15 | 2813569 1911A1
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This discussion is not about proving which diets are healthy.  It is about eliminating the belief that "all calories are equal."  They are not.  Further, preferred energy source doesn't tell us anything about health effects.  The human body uses ketone bodies more efficiently than glucose.  Does efficiency prove anything?

Why would you base any conclusions on a study that is not peer reviewed and has been repeatedly shown to be bunk?  Particularly now that some of the authors of this study have published articles in peer reviewed journals with opposite conclusions to The China Study.

BTW, those authors actually reference peer reviewed papers to back-up their conclusions.

Multivariate analysis of some of "The China Study" data shows different conclusions:

From one of Campbell's own papers:

"Erythrocyte fatty acids, plasma lipids, and cardiovascular disease in rural China” published in the December 1990 issue of the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.

Within China neither plasma total cholesterol nor LDL cholesterol was associated with CVD [cardiovascular disease]. The results indicate that geographical differences in CVD mortality within China are caused primarily by factors other than dietary or plasma cholesterol.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:41 | 2812513 john39
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Thu, 09/20/2012 - 15:07 | 2815835 1911A1
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Fuhrman’s calculations of nutrient density suffer from three fatal flaws: first, he excludes from these calculations many nutrients known to be essential to the body while doubling the score of other putative nutrients whose physiological functions are uncertain; second, he fails to account for variations in the bioavailability of nutrients between foods; third, he groups all nutrients present in a food into a single score as if they were interchangeable, rather than acknowledging that different types of foods provide different types of nutrients.


His definition of nutrient density as nutrients per calorie can be valuable for someone whose first priority is to restrict calories, but it can be inappropriate for others. Rather than instructing the reader about how to judiciously use the ten percent of calories allotted to animal products to select the most nutrient-dense of these foods, Fuhrman dismisses their nutritional contribution as insignificant. Although the premise of Eat to Live—nutrient density—is solid, his assumptions in the application of this principle seriously diminish the value that this book will have to many readers and may even lead some down a path that will ultimately damage their health.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 17:00 | 2812858 mirac
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Could one make a healthy doughnut?  Maybe...If I could only get ahold of The Dunkin Donuts CEO...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:51 | 2812261 Panafrican Funk...
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This.  I mean, fuck, the sheer quantity of poison that gets the thumbs up from the FDA as a food additive makes me wonder what else they're going to approve once they really start ramping up their "anti-obesity" effort.  Comeback story for "anal seepage" Olean?  lol

Per usual, the answer to the obesity problem is simple.  Eat less, exercise more, and eat stuff that is the least fucked with.  Do I get a congressional medal now?  Or would I be in line for a censure?  I guess my prescription is about 1,999 pages too short to be worthy of consideration.  

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:01 | 2812363 TruthInSunshine
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The makers of edible, food-like substances have deeply captured government regulatory agencies opining wisdom on what to eat.

It's the same Deep Capture that has taken place in financial, banking, pharma and any other area of the well-regulated lives of Amerikans.

KISS plan for eating healthy:


Consume approximately as many calories as you burn in any given day (want to eat more? get off your ass more)

Don't eat crap that has a shelf life for more than a few days, comes in a box, or in a package (that eliminates about 95% of processed food, and approximately 75% of the "food" on grocery store shelves).

Eat lots of fruits, vegetables and nuts.

Eat & enjoy reasonable amounts of fresh (if you know the producer or source, all the better) red meat, fish and poultry (stay away from the processed, chemical-laden shit that's pre-packaged). Eat as many eggs as you wish (remember the government warning on eggs?)

Eat healthy fats & good-fat foods like olive oil, avacados, sunflower oil, etc.


LIMIT carbs (and if you eat carbs, make them complex ones, combined with fiber to slow the assault on your pancreas), and especially simple carbohydrates, which create a vicious insulin spiking cycle, and which is a huge reason why half the f*cking country is diabetic or pre-diabetic (the corn lobby is a very powerful bitch, bitchez).


As a side note, disregard Big Pharma's statin scam, which has been their most profitable astro-turfing campaign to date. Cholesterol is NOT the cause of heart disease, but merely accompanies the true cause, which is high levels of C-reactive protein and inflammation, in general (which is the root cause of many other serious diseases).

Statins reduce inflammation, but carry tremendous adverse side risks. There are far superior methods of reducing inflammatory conditions than taking statins. See the research by Gary Taubes for more on the great statin scam.

It's a dirty little secret that so many physicians choose to take 81 milligrams to 162 milligrams of plain aspirin daily, rather than any statin, to reduce not only their risk of cardiovascular disease, but cancer and other inflammatory marker diseases.

Imagine that, aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid), which comes from the bark of the willow tree, and is incredibly inexpensive, and most importantly, can't be patented, is treated as the ugly step-child by the captured medical establishment and Big Pharma, even though the best data to date shows it's incredibly effective at very low doses in mitigating heart disease and can both prevent cancer and literally kill hard-mass cancer tumors that's already set in...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:03 | 2812637 Jena
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Perfectly stated.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 18:24 | 2812657 TruthInSunshine
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BBC News - Daily aspirin 'prevents and possibly treats cancer'

"Now the same experts believe the protective effect occurs much sooner - within three to five years - based on a new analysis of data from 51 trials involving more than 77,000 patients."

  • Aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) has been used for many years as a painkiller. It has an anti-inflammatory action
  • Low-dose (75mg) aspirin is already recommended for people with known cardiovascular disease to prevent stroke and heart attack

And aspirin appears not only to reduce the risk of developing many different cancers in the first place, but may also stop cancers spreading around the body.


Aspirin's 'triple whammy' effect against cancer


And by modifying aspirin in a very simple way (adding nitric oxide), it becomes a legitimate precision guided nuclear warhead upon malignant tumors and cancer cells:

Could a NOSH-aspirin-a-day keep cancer away?
Wed, 09/19/2012 - 18:31 | 2813163 dbomb12
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Soylent green

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:22 | 2812093 Stackers
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Sorry you have used up your weekly alotted calorie ration already.

But its still only Thursday !

I guess you should have planned better citizen. Next please.


Next please.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:45 | 2812231 JPM Hater001
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The obesity problem will be solved shortly.

Followed there after by famine.

Carry on.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:56 | 2812609 Popo
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That means hotter chicks, right?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:17 | 2812692 SilverIsKing
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No Soup For You!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 19:02 | 2813240 krispkritter
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I think you meant 'carrion'...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 17:02 | 2812864 krispkritter
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Ever read Lipid Leggin'? What happens when Gov't outlaws butter...

What NY will look like in a year or two if Bloomy's still in office. Might take the rest of the US awhile longer...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 23:39 | 2813847 BooMushroom
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Thanks for the link. ZH commenters are the best commenters in the whole wide web.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:53 | 2812274 Abiotic Oil
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Don't foget to regulate the fat ass Surgeon General!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:39 | 2812509 knukles
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The elite are exempt.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:53 | 2812578 kaiserhoff
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Bennie should be sentenced to eat Moochelle;)

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:13 | 2812377 Renewable Life
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Ohh but new jerseys "fatter then a house" governor is cool right, fuck off hypocrite! How about Rush Limbaugh and that fat ass Carl Rove? Where do they fit in?

Being unhealthy doesn't have shit to do with politics, but thank god, when the stormin morman gets elected President, he'll fix that too on his first day in the white house!!! Mitt says, fat ass people in America, I'll give you a 10,000 tax credit if you lose weight, there fixed!! All you'll have to go is attach the before and after photos to your tax returns and check the box!!

Ohhhh wait, I said we would close all those tax deductions didn't I, ok well, not this one, let's close mortgage interest instead!!! Damn being President is easy!!! What's next????

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:46 | 2812512 augustusgloop
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just allow "sister wives" like willard mitt's gran' pappy in ol' mexico had and make them share the calories formerly allocated to the monogam. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:12 | 2812037 LULZBank
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Americans will provide the next source of hydrocarbon fuels to the generations living say about 2 to 3 centuries from now.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:32 | 2812459 malikai
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Why wait?


"Thermal depolymerization (TDP) is a depolymerization process using hydrous pyrolysis for the reduction of complex organic materials (usually waste products of various sorts, often biomass and plastic) into light crude oil. It mimics the natural geological processes thought to be involved in the production of fossil fuels. Under pressure and heat, long chain polymers of hydrogenoxygen, and carbon decompose into short-chain petroleumhydrocarbons with a maximum length of around 18 carbons."

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:04 | 2812319 Sudden Debt
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this one supports your quote :)

Aaaaarrrhhhh... you dumb fucker...... hilarious :) must see :)

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:37 | 2812494 knukles
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If it's meant to be funny, it's not.  Sounds way the fuck too much like what you're gonna hear in the reeducation camp... right before they guillotine your ass.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:24 | 2812721 PontifexMaximus
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Should take some private lessons from Josef Goebbels first...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:15 | 2812055 camaro68ss
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whats with people wanting the government to step in and "fix" things. Everything the government gets its hands on gets fucked up beyond all Recognition.


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:54 | 2812277 SmallerGovNow2
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five quadrillion thumbs ups for you camaro ...


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:16 | 2812394 V in PA
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So thats about 0.5 thumbs up in 1950's thumbs.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:54 | 2812581 Lohn Jocke
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Print more thumbs. You've just inflated the value of +1

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:07 | 2812339 NewWorldOrange
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Well, since parents have a very rationale concern about being arrested if they let their kids play outdoors, they better put locks on the frig and cupboards.

Texas arrested a mother for allowing her kids to play in front of the house "without supervision" a few days ago, on the charge of child endangerment.

Here's a link to that story if you missed it. Got to see it to believe it: (included the local news report on TV)

Call me crazy, but I think if I hadn't spent my so much time outdoors playing as a child, and my parents, fearing arrest, had forced me to remain indoors, I'd have been obese too.




Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:19 | 2812402 pods
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Smell that freedom?
CPS is the scariest part of the government for parents. One call can ruin your life.

Fucking Gestapo!


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:45 | 2812441 NewWorldOrange
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CPS...mostly a bunch of man-hating lesbian feminist assholes. And did you see where the news crew stopped the neighbor who SNITCHED to CPS and the cops? She had no comment, but the reporter said that the mother who was arrested (and has already sued the cops and the neighbor) stated there was a lot of "tension" now with that neighbor.

Snitches should be dealt with in the 'hood the same way they're dealt with in prison.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:48 | 2812549 pods
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All it took was a single phone call and this lady's life was turned upside down.

That is where we are today.  A phone call and an accusation and your life is put through the ringer, with you having to prove that you have stopped beating your wife/kids.

And this is the system that many will happily support on election day.
Yeah, I know, a bad apple, etc.  

People do not want a system where people are above the state, they just want to control the power the state has.

Fuck em all.


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:06 | 2812597 NewWorldOrange
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"See something, say something." I guess this mother was a terrorist.

Fuck em all is right. This shit is all getting so insane, so Twilight Zone...I'm coming to the point where I fucking WANT to see the whole fucking world collapse into a total war and mayhem. Some philosopher said, "Hell is other people." Every passing day seems to prove him more right.

Fuck em all? NUKE em all. Any animal, or insect for that matter, has more right to live than any fucking POS human. The best thing that could happen to this planet would be some Twelve Monkeys shit that kills off all the fucking humans.

Maybe people would eat less, with food more expensive, if they weren't perfectly fine with putting billions of cows in packed herds knee deep in their own feces so they can save $1 on McDouble, or with cutting off the beaks and claws of billions of chickens then putting them in cages where they can't even turn around or spread their wings, so that bucket of extra crispy is $1 cheaper.

Satanic fucking trash.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:05 | 2812341 Ruffcut
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Just say no to your pie hole. Soda fucking pop? Yep, out pops the belly, just as described inthe name.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 23:24 | 2813811 PaperWillBurn
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They're playing "Hide the QE3" How do you keep prices from getting out of hand? Portion control.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:15 | 2812060 SeverinSlade
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Perhaps the government should repeal all legislation that has been written by the big insurance/big pharma industries that artificially drive up costs by barring competition first.  Health care should be just like any other service.  When you go in for treatment, you should know the costs up front.  You don't walk into a Denny's, show your food insurance card, and then are billed later.  No, you pay for your Grand Slam right there. 

Maybe if providers were forced to charge what people can actually afford out of pocket, the costs associated with obesity would plummet, and those who choose unhealthy lifestyles would be the only ones forced to pay for their decisions.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:09 | 2812365 NewWorldOrange
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That would be great if we had a government that gave a damn about people and not big insurance/big pharma.

Food inflation (and shortages) will solve the obesity problem real soon.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 18:17 | 2813114 blunderdog
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There may come to be shortages of coffee, eggs, beef, etc, but I ASSURE YOU there will never be a shortage of cornflakes, instant mashed potatoes, breaded precooked chicken balls, beer, or Chuckles.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:16 | 2812065 notadouche
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I'm all for it as it sounds as though you are effectively ending Obamacare.  Let the people pay for their own healthproblems.  Of course it's proven how raising "sin taxes" has been so affective.  If taxing solved all the problems of the world why don't we just give 100% of our paychecks to the govt and Utopia here we come!!!!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:32 | 2812162 keesooi
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You actually said something that made sense:  "let people pay for their own unhealthy habits".  I agree.   So what's all this shit about taxing/subsidizing this and that?

Adult individuals make coices, some good, some bad.  Live with the consequences of either, don't make me pay for your bad choices through the forces of our all benevolent overlords.  In return, I won't make you pay for mine.  Just leave me the fuck out of it.  Deal?


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:48 | 2812553 Hobbleknee
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Fuck off and die, asshole.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:53 | 2812579 Chump
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Tax fast food, carb-laden shit, and soda, and use the procedes to pay for healthcare. Let people pay for their own unhealthy habits.

Have the government pay for health care through additional taxation, so that people can be made to pay for their own health care.  Abbott and Costello could have really used your genius.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:49 | 2812795 NewWorldOrange
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LOL -- well said Chump.

How about letting people pay for every cent of their own health care and insurance, and allow doctors to charge them for the additional costs they incur treating fatasses (or smokers or whatever) and not be forced by government regulations to pass so much of those costs to those who take care of their own health? In other words, how about letting reality and personal responsibility provide the right incentives? How about people have to pay for their own food and their own kids' food? How about mom be allowed to deny her fatass kid food without being visited by CPS? How about we end all the pathetic liberal asshat whining about "bullying" and not coddle the little fatasses being called fatasses by their peers? How about government not label "corporations" as people, and do it like it once was, where they get a limited duration to serve a public service, rather than a permanent license to create millions of cheap, filthy, gm and sugar-filled products and the lie thru their teeth about what they're selling? How about we not have to subsidize the building of special facilities, ramps, and so forth, to enable fatasses to live more comfortably as fatasses? How about we force fatasses to have to buy two airplane or bus seats rather than sue those who try to do that?

GOVERNMENT FUCKS UP EVERYTHING. Adding more government, taxes, restrictions, laws, regulations -- unintended consequences orf the "cure" are always worse than the disease.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:54 | 2812831 Chump
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No, well said by you.  You've been knocking them out of the park all over the place here.  But everything you just said here and in this thread requires an absolute mash on the RESET button, on everything.

We put it off too long, and it's coming anyway, and it's going to be fucking ugly.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 17:03 | 2812867 NewWorldOrange
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"and it's coming anyway, and it's going to be fucking ugly."

Yeah, all the talk we do around here is stimulating at times, but it's kinda' like (excuse the overworn analogy) discussing the arrangement of the deck chairs on the Titanic. Maybe that'll all sink in (no pun intended) when we're at the FEMA camps (probably discussing the pros and cons of whether to first appeal to State or to Federal Court, or to first exhaust our administrative remedies thru the camp grievance procedure.)

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 20:54 | 2813492 Chump
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Oh yeah, talk is cheap without a doubt.  And on that note, no FEMA camps for me!  Solzhenitsyn already showed us the way.


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:07 | 2812656 jekyll island
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High fructose corn syrup in everything.  High calorie food is cheaper than nutritious items.  Supersize me.  Forget heart attacks, there is now a stroke occuring every 40 seconds in the US.  If you think treating a heart attack is expensive, imagine what it will cost to treat a 350 pound diabetic with high blood pressure who is bedbound due to a large vessel stroke.  Paralyzed on one side, cannot walk, cannot take care of themself, has a stomach tube and $8/hr nurses aid who is supposed to turn them every two hours to prevent bed sores. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 18:15 | 2813110 edotabin
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As usual, the truth has a crapload of layers that make it very difficult to peel back and see things for what they really are.

I'm not certain it is fast food alone. It is fast, but is it food? There are videos on youtube about a guy that collects Big Macs and he has some over a decade old that look exactly like the first day he bought it. There is another lady that shows her McDonald's fries that look golden and fresh despite being very, very old. 

In sodas, they can easily revert to using cane sugar or even stevia instead of high fructose corn syrup.

I'm not under any circumstances defending sodas and fast food.  I'm just pointing out the fact that we are not even consuming food. We are consuming science experiments.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:16 | 2812066 Gully Foyle
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That has to be one of the stupidest things I've read.

Obesity is caused by storing fat due to taking in more calories then are burnt through various activities.

Food pyramid has NOTHING to do with that.

If anything it is due to having a sedentary relatively secure lifestyle with an abundance of leisure time.

Obesity is a reflection of humanities success as a species.

You want skinny people go to third world starving nations.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:23 | 2812099 V in PA
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I almost never agree with you but I will agree with this "storing fat [is] due to taking in more calories then are burnt through various activities."

The food pyamid was designed for farmers, not for diet. It encouraged Americans to eat a certain way so farmers (Monsanto, ADM) could get the most amount of calories ($) per acre farmed.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:04 | 2812645 Lohn Jocke
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I agree with your first point but the latter point doesn't entirely work out. The vast majority of row crops developed by Monsanto and handled by ADM go to undustrial and energy use. Yes much of it goes to food and feed, but the logic isn't 100% accurate. Likewise keep in mind that Corn syrup can be produced in greater abundance than sugar, making it cheaper. But if you jumped face first into a pile of raw organic sugar, those carbs too, would end up around your waist.

Before downvoting let me redeem myself: Educate. Bring back gym teachers who would make kids run, even if they make them feel bad about themselves. Teach kids and families how to eat healthy on a budget, it can be done; but we don't need the damn government to do it.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:27 | 2812128 redpill
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Wrong chum.  Not all calories are equal.  Some spike your bloodsugar and lead to immediate fat storage, others metabolize over time and allow you go longer between meals.  Obviously starving people are going to be skinny, but I don't enjoy starving.


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:53 | 2812276 krispkritter
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Paleo diet vs. BAD(Basic American Diet). We're eating 'stuff' that our bodies don't even recognize as food. Cut out the crap that is manufactured and your body deals with it just fine. Sugars, most grains, corn and it's by-products, and chemical-laced crap is mostly toxic to the human body. We already know what happens when you feed cattle corn as opposed to grass; they grow into fat, unhealthy, steaks on the hoof because they're not designed to metabolize it. Works great for the beef industry...think of the FDA as Fatten Dem Americans!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:59 | 2812312 prains
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correct redpill not all calories are the same but the one clear point is that too many calories are consumed and the addictive quality of things like fructose etc are one of the prime culprits. the end user doesn't need to be regulated as much as the manufacturer, think tobacco.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:30 | 2812144 Xibalba
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I'm sure the hormones used to fatten up the livestock, that are then passed through into humans have nothing to do with it either? And cancer causing GMO "corn" in everything...and I mean everything...has no impact as well? 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:47 | 2812236 Urban Redneck
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Livestock - an existence involving sitting on one's fat ass ALL DAY EVERYDAY and STUFFING ONE'S FACE from sunrise to sunset, stopping only sleep or occasionally procreate.

The hormones may impact the metabolic process, but the body would need excess calories to even have the ability to create the "desireable" fat in the first place.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:03 | 2812334 1911A1
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Not necessarly.  There are metabolic disorders where a persons body will starve/break down muscle tissue while still storing fat.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:38 | 2812195 Flakmeister
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There is mounting evidence that exposure to BPA leads to hormonal changes favouring obesity...  

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:48 | 2812242 pods
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I actually heard a radio news story about this today.  Spoke of fat people having higher levels of BPA.  

Of course, fat people have more fat, and BPA is strongly hydrophobic, so I think there might be some debate as to which caused which.


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:08 | 2812357 Flakmeister
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Yeah.... look a little more closely at that debate and who is funding one side of it, if you catch my drift...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:30 | 2812453 pods
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Don't have to convince me flak, and I would not be surprised who is behind it.  They are probably trying to find out how hexafluorosilicilic acid and mercury became good for you so as to replicate the marketing plan.

Did not know that there was a debate frankly, just off the top of my head figured BPA would tend to build up in fat.


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:39 | 2812202 tmosley
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Increased intake of protein and fat will satisfy your hunger with fewer calories.  The food pyramid placed carbs at the base, which in hindsight is pretty well totally wrong.

Try eating the steak calorie equivalent of a large milkshake.  You probably won't have much room left afterwards.  Try eating your burger and fries after that.  With a shake, its easy, with a steak, not so much.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:48 | 2812241 The Eradicator
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I believe you are wrong. The likely cause of obesity is by overconsumption of sugars and easily digestible carbs. The theory is that overconsumption of sugars raises insulin levels, and elevated insulin levels cause your body to store food as fat instead of using it. So ironically the cells of fat people are starving. Not only have I personally lost thirty pounds by restricting these items, but there are recent dietary studies that show that people burn more calories on a carb restricted diet.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:48 | 2812243 JPM Hater001
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Obesity is drive by our excessive society which has been facilitated by easy money and this especially includes food.  The problem was further exacerbated by the lack of personal health responsibility removed by socializing our healthcare.

One of the things I am most afraid of is our sick during the collapse.  We have caused so much obesity with our slovenly lifestyle that I think it is fair to say that even this can be blamed on our central bank.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:22 | 2812417 NewWorldOrange
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You hit on a lot of truth there JPM. Not sure why someone junked you, maybe the "blame the Fed" thing seemed overboard to them. But the fact it, easy money leads to easy everything, and yes, that includes food. The quantity of foods stored in a typical American household today, especially snacks, cokes, and easily prepared stuff (not to mention microwaves), is far greater than it was then. Back then, it was common that mom was home, and even opening the frig was forbidden. Eating out was a rare treat, and I had to decide between spending what little money I came into on BBs or a Baby Ruth, once a week. It doesn't help either that modern life leaves people so much less time to exercise and what time they do have, they're exhausted and sitting in front of a TV.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:34 | 2812478 JPM Hater001
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Exactly.  Except that last part about time...we watch way too much tv.



Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:49 | 2812554 NewWorldOrange
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TV = Borg Life

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:40 | 2812779 Tekrunner
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Yes, yes of course. Everyone knows that in Europe food is plentiful and their healthcare system is much more socialized than in the US, and the rate of obesity is higher there.

Oh wait, no it's not. Maybe one day you'll take off your individualistic goggles and see the world how it really is.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:06 | 2812347 Scalaris
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Yeah no shit that obesity is the result of a constant calorie excess / calorie depletion ratio.

The fact that for the past 60 years, the US food industry-oligopoly has been pimping its glycose-everything nutrition via congress, did nothing to help the ignorant masses.

Wouldn't be surprised if krispy kremes are classified as vegetable in a few years.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:40 | 2812515 NewWorldOrange
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Food is very plentiful and most everyone can easily afford it in most of Europe, just as much as America. Yet obesity there is far less than in America. I've spend all in all about 15 years living in various parts of Europe. The main differences? They walk and bike a lot more; they MODERATE in almost all that they do far more; they are less likely to buy highly processed foods and there is less highly processed food and more of the lesser processed types; there is far less sugar added and high fructose corn syrup is almost rare there, but in almost everything in the U.S.

Having spent so much time there and in America though, to put it succinctly, Europeans are simply far less glutonous by habit. They eat slower, they eat healthier, and they eat less. I think the "slower" part makes a huge difference and is underrated as a factor.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:01 | 2812629 Simplifiedfrisbee
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Eating slow is, by far, a free luxury many sheople have passed up on. Instead, opting to stuff thy face while attempting to stuff thy pockets with reserve napkins.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 18:30 | 2813157 blunderdog
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Most employed Americans don't have consistent access to that luxury, though, as with so many others.  The standard unpaid lunch in the most common jobs is 30 minutes total, and they'll fire you if you're back to your desk or station a few minutes late.

30 minutes is a reasonable amount of time to consume a prepared meal, so sack-lunchers do well with it, but people who go out to pick up lunch, or try to eat it in a restaurant or something, don't usually have that kind of time.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 17:22 | 2812926 Scalaris
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I don't know about the level of gluttony regarding Europe vs America, but as you say, there is indeed a significant portion of the population that commutes by cycling in Europe.

As for the rest, I think that what plays a major role in the differentiation of nutritional habits between the two continents, is the purchasing choice of the consumer, due to a broader supply base in Europe, a result of a much less coroporate consolidation in the food industry, allowing this way for small and medium size suppliers, to be contracted as individual vendors for many supermarket chains.

Moreover, I think that here in Europe, there is less distance between the more densely-populated metropolitan areas and larger urban zones, and the broader adjacent towns and suburbs, that benefit from more localized sources, which decreases the disconnection of nutritional habits, allowing in this way a larger part of the population to adopt healthier diets.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:39 | 2812198 keesooi
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6ft / 220 lbs is obese.  Great, they just described every NFL quarterback.  

This is typical government:  Come up with a bogus measurement (CPI, Global Warming, BMI, etc.) -> OMG, we have a "crisis"! -> Regulate/tax the fuck out of the sheeple.

Rinse, repeat.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:52 | 2812267 JPM Hater001
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Actually I worked in insurance (LTCI) where weight was important and I will tell you that at a BMI of 33 for women and 36 for men the incidence of long term care starts making dramatic moves.  Obese people are twice as likely to need long term care as are those with diabetes.

By the way both of those double and then double again your risk of alzheimers.  Add in lack of physical and mental activity and we are looking at a tidal wave of dementia and long term care in America.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:21 | 2812410 Think for yourself
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except the BMI doesn't measure obesity. It measures bulk, which in unhealthy people is correlated to obesity but which in healthy people is correlated to muscle mass.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:23 | 2812420 Think for yourself
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Now of course I reckon you could come up with a rather simple formula to normalize BMI measurement with the body fat index, now it might start meaning something.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:04 | 2812643 Flakmeister
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And realistically what fraction of high BMI people are low fat high muscle mass people? 1%? 0.01%

Measuring body fat is difficult, BMI is not.....  Perfect is the enemy of good...

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 15:05 | 2818963 mkkby
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I'm not fat, I'm just too short. Stop picking on short people you bully. It's not their fault.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:25 | 2812432 j8h9
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Finally a voice of reason and empirical data to analyze... The obesity problem contains many hidden economic costs to all of society. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 18:02 | 2813070 scythian empire
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You fatten the country with your fucking Food Pyramid for 30 years and now there's some suprise so many are obese?

Here here!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 18:03 | 2813071 scythian empire
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You fatten the country with your fucking Food Pyramid for 30 years and now there's some suprise so many are obese?

Here here!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 18:03 | 2813072 scythian empire
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You fatten the country with your fucking Food Pyramid for 30 years and now there's some suprise so many are obese?

Here here!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 19:23 | 2813285 General Decline
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Hey Redpill. Sorry about the down arrow stupid iPhone and fat fingers. Bad combo. You're right about the food pyramid. Green arrow for you.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:08 | 2812015 PersonalRespons...
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My ass is not fat, I'm just big-boned.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:12 | 2812043 LULZBank
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My ass is not fat, I'm just big-boned.

You got a bone in your ass?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:23 | 2812095 Zadok
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Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:07 | 2812354 Bay of Pigs
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Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:23 | 2812097 Joe Davola
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Video, or it never happened.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:23 | 2812102 tradebot
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it's yur ass bone dummy.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:56 | 2812295 MachoMan
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If BMI is used, you might just be really athletic (have lots of muscle mass) instead of fat...  fucking ridiculous. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:23 | 2812416 Colonel Klink
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Read it and weep bitchez!  There are several ways in which to measure if you're overweight/obese.  The BMI can be misleading for those who are lean and fit but have a larger amount of muscle mass.  Such as the The waist-to-height ratio or Willoughby athlete weight

As is severely lacking for the Amurikan population, the ability to research and actually educate yourself on an issue.

Unfortunately the lower income section of the Amurikan population has a horrible diet.  When informed to eat more fruits and vegetables they are unable to do so because they're not exactly cheap.  Apples at Wallyworld run $1.68 a pound.  Far cheaper to grab that .99 cheeseburger or some other garbage.

I won't/can't delve deep enough into the corn syrup/trash GMO food debate to even do it justice.  I just don't have it in me to type a bible, then debate the merits.

Live and learn, or don't and die.  Frankly we need a culling of the fat and stupid!


NOTE:  BTW Machoman, this isn't directed to your post.  Just tagged under it as a supporting aside to what you commented.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:34 | 2812740 MachoMan
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I think it fits in perfectly with other concepts of our monetary and fiscale prolifigacy in that all prudent activity will be punished.  I fully expect to be graced with higher health premiums and mandated diet given the fact that my BMI is high due to muscle mass...  bullshit generalization = laughable policy.  If let continue long enough, there is no stone moral hazard will leave unturned.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:14 | 2812047 larz
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Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:03 | 2812639 kaiserhoff
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Plus Sizes --- WTF?  Why not just lard-assed?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:13 | 2812049 Sudden Debt
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your ass is not fat!
it's just the rest that's not big

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:23 | 2812101 LMAOLORI
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Who's going to pick up MOO chelle's tab?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 18:51 | 2813215 blunderdog
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Not to pick on you specifically, but all the fat jokes about Michelle Obama look an awful lot like some kind of displacement of something else.

What part of the world would you have to come from to see a 48 year-old woman who looks like this and go off about how fat she is:

I mean...REALLY?  She's not svelte, but take a look at any women you know in their mid-40's. 

Most of the hostility on that subject has got to be racism, 'cause everybody knows black Venus had "large buttocks and bosoms," but for anyone who's proud to say they're NOT a racist, what's up with all that?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 19:33 | 2813309 lotsoffun
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want some skinny milfs?  (and healthy?)  asia, eastern europe, africa, south america.  much of the continent in western europe.  (UK tied to USA).

dorothy said there is no place like home, and there's no place like USA for GMO, additives, high fructose corn syrup and huge thunder thighs and asses because nobody can eat correctly and get any exercise.

thank god the elevators here and taxis all have tv's advertising more food outlets, because if it wasn't for the food ad's, i would have forgotten to eat.

mcdonalds and coke and heinz and otis elevator and gm all intend to fully conquer the universe.  but - (watch for wwiii) - they haven't just yet.



Wed, 09/19/2012 - 20:36 | 2813454 blunderdog
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Er...well...since you asked...NO.

I don't want 'em FAT, but I can't STAND 'em skinny.  I'm old-school.

Women should look fertile.  Nothing puts me off my feed like a skeleton with big implants.  Ick.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:28 | 2814621 BooMushroom
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Some of us resent being preached to about what to eat. Especially when it's arugula.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:58 | 2814765 blunderdog
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Thanks for clarifying that.  She pisses you off, so she's fat.  I get it.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:00 | 2811965 Debtonation
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Never a boring day when MDB walks in the door.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:03 | 2811985 avidtango
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The only way to eliminate obesity by 2014 is chopping off body parts.  Ms. O is dead wrong if she thinks adjusting the edges will solve obesity.  Japan's rate is 5% our and it is due to a cultural vote for healthy food and small portions. And what does Ms O's healthy bloather have to do with the Olympics?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:13 | 2812044 MillionDollarBonus_
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I believe in our first lady Michelle Obama, and I believe in her cause. If that's not good enough for you, then that's just too bad. If you can't feel the energy and spirit of healthy eating revolution, then I feel sorry for you. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:16 | 2812067 Glasnost
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Nobody gives two shits what anybody else belives in chump.  Welcome to the new world.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:27 | 2812125 FubarNation
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MDB must have a hell of a time tormenting youse guys here on ZH. 

I imagine he laughs his ass off most of the day thinking this shit up.

I'm going to have a MGD tonight in honor of MDB who gives me plenty of shits and giggles throughout my day.


Cheers MDB.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:41 | 2812208 keesooi
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Long 19.9 oz soda cups

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:42 | 2812216 viahj
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so, you're saying that Bigfoot is real then?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:01 | 2812628 PatBateman
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Screw that bitch Ubangi. Her ass looks like two pigs wrestling in a sheet.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:17 | 2812396 SelfGov
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HAHA amazingly enough America's fat asses are an amazing carbon sink. Should help offset global emissions if we build enough McDonalds.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:48 | 2812544 Hayabusa
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I don't know you're being facetious or what... but Michelle Obama is porking out herself and needs to practice what she preaches!  Of course those 5 star meals at taxpayer expense can really pack on the pounds... looks like she's gain at least 30 since her hubby took office.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:48 | 2812547 flyme
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It's hard for a fat person to fight in a war. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:52 | 2812826 MillionDollarBogus_
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I do not approve that last MDB message....

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:10 | 2811994 SeverinSlade
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These ideas have been telegraphed for years via MSM movies, TV shows, etc.  One movie comes to mind off the top of my head.  Remember Demolition Man with Sly Stallone?  Dystopian future where big brother watches everything and most importantly, decides what you can and cannot eat.  Even SALT is outlawed.  And of course, the freedom lovers are portrayed as lawless thugs.  Even more interesting is that big brother creates false flag terror by hiring actual criminals to commit crimes that terrorize the populace, as well as to kill the leader of the freedom loving resistance. 

Don't you love how easily the propaganda can be spotted?

Incrementalism, predictive-programming, subliminal messaging, etc. at its finest.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:55 | 2812289 Overfed
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Another movie that the sheeple think is fictional. Too bad the reality probably won't end as happily.

Those same sheeple will probably be grateful when Judge Dredd becomes reality.


Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:52 | 2812828 I only kill chi...
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THX 1138, possible drug evasion violation. Now take your pills bitchezs, or you'll be in violation.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:54 | 2811922 Ying-Yang
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Look at the buns on that bitch!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:03 | 2811988 ACP
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Is there any irony in the fact that the burger in the photo is made in a burger joint in Southgate, a suburb of Detroit?

Or would that be fitting? I'm struggling.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:56 | 2811924 Debtonation
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So, does Mayor Bloomberg own Bloomberg News or is this just him talking?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:57 | 2811943 WALLST8MY8BALL
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Be careful saying Freedom Words! Cus they got Metal Birds! Betta watch what you say! Or You will get a Pepper Spray! Bought a soda over 16 Ounces? Major Mike Bloomberg Pounces! He Kettled kids shouting Freedom words! Sprayed down by the brown shirt Turds!

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