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Dear Obese America: Uncle Sam Wants To Regulate What You Eat
It seems that the recent foray of Mayor Bloomberg into determining what one may and may not consume based on calorie count, was just the appetizer, so to say. As some may recall, back in March we wrote that based on OECD predictions, up to 75% of the US nation will be overweight or obese. Now, none other than Uncle Sam has gotten wind that his population will soon be primarily made up of fat people. So he has a solution, which is in the vein of all other solutions where Uncle Sam is concerned: regulate, regulate, regulate.
From Bloomberg: "Governments should regulate food companies on unhealthy ingredients in products that contribute to obesity, an epidemic that now affects 1-in-3 Americans and costs the U.S. $150 billion a year, said New York City Health Commissioner Thomas Farley. More than education and voluntary action by companies is needed, Farley said. New York’s limit on sugary soft drink sales is one example of the steps governments must take to stop the rise of obesity, he said today at a press conference on the topic held by the Journal of the American Medical Association." Punchline #1: "Publicly traded food companies, charged with making a profit for their shareholders, can’t be relied upon to make their foods more nutritious, Farley said." In other words, Uncle Sam knows what is best for you, always. Punchline #2: "There is a clear role for government in the solution,” Farley said. “Obesity rates have been rising considerably for the last 30 to 40 years. If we don’t do anything, I think it is a fair prediction that they will continue to rise." Surely, when it comes to things that are soaring which will not stop soaring unless something is done, the US government knows best: after all just look at Exhibit A: the US Debt, which sadly the US government has been "regulating" pretty much since the beginning.
More:
About 60 percent of adults in New York City are overweight or obese and 1-in-8 have diabetes, which is often caused by obesity, Farley said. A person with a body mass index of at least 30 is considered obese, according to the National Institutes of Health. The BMI is calculated using height and weight. A man who is 6 feet tall and weighed more than 220 pounds would be considered obese using the formula.
The size of a soda has increased from about 6.5 ounces in the 1960s to 20 ounces today, according to Farley. He said surveys have found that Americans eat 200 to 600 more calories a day than they did in the 1970s and that sugary drinks are playing a role in that added calorie consumption.
The city’s soda size rule is not government restriction on choice, adding that people can consume as much as they want at restaurants as long as it isn’t with a cup larger than 16 ounces, Farley said.
And just in case there was any confusion where this is going...
“While the idea of government regulation on portion size is new, we think it makes all the sense in the world,” Farley said.
Our advice: eat up America. Very soon you will need permission from your friendly local government constable to not only chew, but swallow.
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Fatties are committing slow suicide, but they're FREE TO DO SO. If you're too goddamn stupid to know how to take care of yourself, well, you're going to have to pay the price for that. That's the group that ought to be buying Helth Insurance.
However, be informed that your friends at Monsanto that Frankenstein your food don't really like you very much, and Codex Alimentarius should be right up you alley.
If you can't take care of your body your lineage has no future, so how will you save the republic?
http://www.naturalnews.com/037249_GMO_study_cancer_tumors_organ_damage.html
If only I didn't have to pay into a tax system that pays for the obese medical healthcare, I wouldn't much care what they do to themslves. The fatties are costing the healthcare system multi-millions. Thats my tax dollars.
If you lot want to be 20 stone fucking beach balls, who the fuck is congress to tell you that you cannot?
Shoot the fucking politicos in the mouth. None of their fucking business fat cunts. Live fat, live free bitchez....
And this is coming from a bloke who is slim and atractive (depends on who you ask mind)...
;-)
Bloomberg is a nazi.
You'll get my maple bacon bar when you pry it from my cold, dead hand.
Molon Labe, food nazis!
Zionist which is worse
I think they should ban High Fructoce Corn Syrup, HFC, Corn Syrup. It is in everything now. Yogurt, salad dressing, Lunch Meats and other meat products, Ice Cream, Ketchup, etc.
Problem solved.
I think they should ban all the people who want to ban things
I'll wait for the Mayor to tell me what to think of this article.
You didn't gain that.
It's a serious problem for sure.
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/338/06/338-0604204337-la...
This is awesome. This will even bring out the fat Walmart whales to man the barricades. We can use them for barricades as needed.
I think it's great having fat people all over the place.
I like to watch them struggle to do simple things. And the way they waddle around makes me laugh.
Of course they cost a fortune to maintain. But Bernanke can print up a bunch of disability checks for them to cash to buy more corn chips, so it's good.
/s
Criminalize sugar and America's health care issues will disappear.
My doctor did a physical for me lately and we got to talking about health in general. He said about 75% of all illness he sees in his practice is directly related to Over Eating/Over weight, smoking and or alcohol abuse.
Just looking at friends and family in general, I can't argue his point. These three are what tend to pack the doctor's office and prove to be the hardest to treat.
Modern medicine has made great strides in infectious disease which used to be a great killer. Now the great killer is lifestyle diseases.
I am never ceased to be amazed at the overall fatness of the American public in general. Even the kids on the school playground here are now showing a level of overweight we never saw when I was a kid. Of the class I went through the school years with in this small town, out of the 120 kids, I guess 3-4 were overweight at most. Today? Just a quick look at a school function showed me around 33% are clearly overweight, with some more in the borderline catagory. These kids will present with medical problems due to overweight by their early 30's
One doctor I read on a health site claimed that in a few years he expects kids of high school age to begin presenting with heart disease and other weight related problem while in their teens! At best he thinks this could strain America's health care spending to a breaking point. A teenager with the heart problems of a 50 years old could present decades of very expensive health needs.
Your post most certainly has lowered the self esteem of the very kids you're purporting to want to help - dare I say, the post borders on bullying!
Everytime I see my doctor he's got antidepressant's at the ready and gets pissed when I don't accept. Not sure doctor's are the greatest trusted source of healthcare anymore. I think it might depend on which one's have a contract and quota system on prescribing certain drugs.
Jack, are you saying personal responsibility has something to do with it? Come on, we're all victims here!
Funny how it was a little more than a decade or so ago that the word was out that it was ok to be fat and those celebity magazines gave an unreal body image and fat people were to be coddled and told it's not your fault, it's ok and yada yada.... 'I'm big and beatuiful" and all that kind of rhetoric. Now whoaaa, we're all a bunch of fat asses. Of course I don't suppose the use of hormones and genetic garbage that the govt has allowed to be injected into our food system has a thing to do with what's going on. Let's see in the last year, now that the govt has gotten personally involved in our healthcare what has changed: Mammograms totally unnecessary, prostate exams are a waste of money, ovarian cancer test are bad because they create false positives and now we need to measure each human's BMI. In case no one has noticed this is right out of the playbook of Nazi Germany in the beginning where the govt knew what was best for their people. What next, selective reporduction in order to create the "perfect" American baby? Laugh if you will but give it a decade and see what happens. Because if we can selectivily breed we can do away with all those annoying imperfectons that might cost tax dollars in healthcare treatments.
Did you see that Big Is Beautiful movement go anywhere? No. It contradicted the You, Too, Can Be Anorexic Like Your Favorite Hollywood Stars movement. Those who pull the government's strings are the same as those who pull the entertainment industry's strings - and they want you steadily buying "weight loss" products as well as food.
The USA for 50+ years has eaten its way into a a nation of fast food dependant slobs. McDonalds, Wendys, Burger King, Taco Bell,etc..., along with the soft drink pimp industry, has enslaved CHILDREN, the stupid, the poor, and the lazy into a future of diabetes, high blood pressure, and assorted health issues. The downside is people get fat and sick; and take a long time to die. There is absolutuely no upside to obesity and eating a shitty fast food diet.
Does gub'mint need to involve itself in this sick intended mess? Gub'mint should apply a tax penalty, similar to the cigarette and gasoline tax; and all proceeds from this "fat ass" tax must be applied to edumacate the poor dumb slobs from harming themselves.
There is also probably a correlation with the Computer. How many hours do we all spend every day in front of the Computer? Trading, playing games, e-mail, Facebook, Twitter, just surfing.
It ain't the Computer, Waterfallsparkles.
They're not educated in the way the body functions and what it requires, fed a constant epileptic flash of fast food ads and belly trimming elastic belts.
It's related to eating processed, depleted, zero-nutritional-value food. Your body can't take what it needs to be strong, so your brain keeps sending the signal to eat and eat, trying to gather the nutrition it needs. Also, addictive elements in the food build dependence and endorphin discharge, and the trap is set for most. Add to that most people don't exercise because it hurts and it makes them sweaty, and the trap closes.
Degenerative disease skyrockets, health plummets, medical system dependency increases, the elite profit, we die stupid, fat and addicted.
You nailed it, Silencer.
I have personally lost over 60 pounds just by doing the following:
1: Daily juicing with juice made from carrots, apples, pineapple, blueberries (when in season.)
2: Adding moderate exercising to my daily routine, including simple things like parking on the far side of a parking lot, things like that.
3: Being aware of what I eat, and making a point of not eating when I'm not really hungry.
That's it. That's all it's taken. The daily juicing solves the problem of cravings and gnawing hunger caused by a lack of actual nutrition. The moderate exercise helps to burn calories and tone the muscles, and taking care to not eat when I'm not really hungry keeps the caloric intake down.
Keep on preaching the message because eventually it will get out there, more people are wising up every day.
I make 2 loaves of bread yesterday and 5 jars of tomato sauce from tomatoes and onions from my garden.
by the sweat of my brow I will eat my pizza .. and not get fat.
Nice
+1773
Just put Red Kale, Swiss Chard, Beans, Beets, Onions, Wheatgrass, Broccoli, Cabbage and Cauliflower in the ground this morning.
Going to be a good year in the garden.
After 91 yrs. our best bulk seed store closed. MonSatan was quickly closing in, but it was the only place to get Non Frankenseed.
That is a bummer. Give Baker Creek a try, they have some fantastic heirloom (all open pollinated in fact) varities. Some incredibly old ones too.
Each year they ship you out a beautiful catalog too.
http://rareseeds.com/
pods
Many thanks.
You've nearly reached Nirvana. Build a Pompeii Oven in the backyard and it's Aum Aum Aum, or yum yum yum.
I'll bet that Mrs. Big Butt Obama is behind this.
Well, if Monsanto has anything to say about it, all the tree huggers will take a back seat to modern GMO technology. Who needs long term studies on health impacts? We're talking about profits in the free markets here.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-dorfman/corn-health_b_1859552.html
Enhance your calm John Spartan.
Let the fatties be as fat as they want, but do not steal from me to pay for their health care.
This kind of stupidity has a way of taking care of itself, stop the devolution already. Let bad ideas and bad behavior suffer real fucking consequences already.
Life is the leading cause of death
They have also discovered that fructose impairs memory in males but not in females. This may explain why women get more degrees than men. For men, fat and dumb go together. Thanks, Uncle Sam, for subsidizing the corn growers of America.
First they came for the plastic bags at the store, and I said nothing, then they came for my electric usage(smartmeter), and I said nothing, then they came after the food, and I said nothing, now they come for me. Who will speak for me?
This is such a slippery slope we slide down. People engage in many private acts that cost health care dollars. Ride a bike? Don't get enough sleep? Have multiple sex partners? Sit in front of the computer too much? Run with scissors? Society used to set the norms for acceptable behavior but it lost it's moral compass circa 1960. Do your own thing and have no shame or personal responsibility. How much personal behavior do you want the government to regulate?
To stop anyone that can't get a 20 oz. soda from getting two 10 oz. cups they will correct the oversite by issueing ration coupons. While at it they will add coupons for everything we consume to make sure we don't cheat or eat too much of anything. One step at a time.
If I don't have to pay their Medicaid bill for their obesity surgery, diabetes, heart disease, stokre care, etc they can eat what they want.
However, if I am forced to pay into the system for their piggishness, then wire their jaws closed.
So it's ok to bomb innocent people around the world and make them die quickly for no good reason but to kill yourself over years by your own volition is something that MUST be stopped. And when will tobacco be completely erradicated? And when will barbecue be banished? And when will you be forced to exercise in a labor camp? And when will you be rationed out chocolate? And when will they forbid halloween and easter? And when will they arrest Famous Amos or Auntie Anne or Dolly Madison or Mrs. Butterworth? And when will commercials for McDonalds be illegal? And when will watching movies and television be forbidden because people are stationary for too long? And when will only clothes have a maximum limit to the size they can be made? And when will Starbucks be raided because they still put caramel, chocolate sauce, whipped cream and sugar in drinks?
Maybe it costs $150 billion a year in healthcare because it's given away for free? I guess they wouldn't consider that.
Much better to take away liberty than to accept that people like to eat. It's a much better idea to tell people that there is free health care but only if you are willing to eat government sanctioned soylent green.
It's much better to control everything because government knows best especially when it comes to hypocrisy.
Fuckin health care it is not, I just spent $128 for a doctor visit because i have a common cold with a cough. Have not slept in two days because of the cough. Asked if I could get some cough suppressant ,you have to come in for the that because it is a controlled substance the doctor has to see you. Fine. Explain to the fuckin doctors little helper i need some cough suppressant so I can get some sleep. Doctor comes in checks this and that diagnosis you have a upper respiratory infection. No fuckin shit? Never once looks at the chart to see what her little helper wrote down. So she goes into her laptop tells me she is sending the prescription to my pharmacy. OK thats something new this time, we want to see you in 4 months to monitor your cholesterol & high blood pressure. Sure make the appointment then drive to the pharmacy hacking all the way. Oh it has not arrived yet. Ok go home login to my CVS account look at my prescriptions and what did that $128 get me ? The bitch writes me a prescription for antibiotics! What the fuck are antibiotics going to do for a virus infection? I need the cough to STOP! Of course it is now noon so they are shutdown for lunch. Wait a fuckin hour,call up the receptionist.
Hey I was just there and I made the appointment to get a cough suppressant and the doctor gave me antibiotics. Yes she tells me that will help cure the infection. NO IT fucking won't but I did not bother telling her that. Can I please get a cough suppressant? Do you want to talk to a nurse? YES, Ok I'll have her call you. That was 2 hours ago and I'm still hacking.
Heath-care is nothing but a fucking scam just like everything else these cocksuckers tell us. I pay $500 a month out of my pay , then I have a $2400 dollar deductible before my co -pays kick in at $30 a pop.
FOR WHAT? So they can tell me bullshit and steal $128 from me. All I want is some fucking suppressant so I can sleep without waking up every 20 mins.!!!
Rants done.
Slippery Elm lozenges and copious amounts of Sambuca should work...no charge...
Alcohol makes me pee , i'll still be getting up every fuking 20 mins!
Still waiting for that call too!
Still waiting!
Best fucking heathcare on the planet as long as you don't need it!
Clearly not what you're looking for but while you're waiting for the doc to call:
Have you tried OTC products? Dextromethorphan when you want to suppress a cough; guaifenesin when you want to make it easier to thin the mucus of a productive cough.
http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/tc/coughs-home-treatment
Yes, that OTC works only if you get close to OD'ing on it. I ended up calling them at 4:25pm thinking they closed a 5 got a hold of the nurse and just got my explanation/complaint out and the phone cuts out.
Call back ,and the answering machine tells me the office is now closed. Thank god the nurse called me back! i still had to drive back there to pick up the prescription! I guess controlled substances need to be on paper, fucking NYS.
What a joke 9 hrs from when I made the appointment 5 hrs. after my visit and 2 trips just to get a fucking prescription.
$8400 a year before i even get a co-pay! WTFx100
What a wonderful country they have created for us.
Cheracol used to be a kick ass cough suppressor. OTC. Then the government stepped in.
Look at all of you little slaves calling for the Big G to come save the day. Have you learned fucking nothing?
It's like reading MDB post after MDB post.
Most of them by posters that I had previously had some respect for.
You knew this was coming. Why do you think the people who know history were so against letting government take control of the medical industry?
All you can do now is suffer for the good of the State.
Enjoy your gruel.
"To Serve Man". IT'S A COOKBOOK ! ! !
Guess they will be telling us how much broccoli to buy, whoda thunkit.
It drives me nuts when I see so called libertarians who want to keep government out of their lives ,but when it comes to their pet peeves they call for govenment intervention. I know that's a blanket statement and not everybody thinks that way,but there are an awful lot of comments for government involvement.Part of living in a free society is allowing other parties to be free. If a person wants to fill their body full of crap and kill themselves so be it. Don't call on government to regulate it away,because the moment you do they want to regulate something else. Government will never be satisfied until it controlls everything.
Just the prelude for the pending food shortages. Uncle Sam just wants to get people used to starving, so maybe food riots won't happen here. The national guard would be pushed back by the legions of fatties if they waddled out to the street to protest.
Let's sue Oprah, Rush Limbaugh, Chris Christie and Michael Moore for being too fat to be on Television and being poor role models!
I'll bet we don't stop subsidizing sugar growers though. Here's some funny stuff from the Indiana Sugar Growers website:
Is sugar a government subsidized commodity?Yes, and for good, if not universally accepted reasons. Maintenance and protection of a domestic sugar industry has long been viewed as an important, strategic goal by many countries, largely because sugar is an indispensable part of everyday life.
History has shown that when sugar trade is left entirely to free-market forces, periods of wild price fluctuations and uncertain supply inevitably occur. To insure stability, various forms of "protectionism" and market control have evolved in most countries. Such mechanisms are as imperfect as the people who, with their competing agendas, propose and inevitably compromise over solutions.
The US has long protected its sugar industry for compelling reasons. It is an important industry that provides jobs and a necessary, pleasurable product few of us care to, or could, live without. The very survival of much of the enormous American food industry depends upon a steady, affordable supply of quality sugar for sweetness and a host of functional properties for which there is no substitute.
The US sugar industry is almost as important to our economic vitality as is a steady supply of affordable energy. Subjecting sugar to the unpredictable forces of global laissez faire capitalism would likely lead to "dumping" by countries whose own sugar industries are much more protected than is ours. This would drive some, if not all, domestic growers and refiners out of business. The resulting dependence on foreign sources for our sugar could bring shortages more severe than caused by World War II’s rationing, with high prices to match.
Darn those laissez faire capitalists and their lower sugar prices.
If food prices were allowed to rise to their natrual equilibrium level, perhaps Americans wouldn't waste so much food, since they eat twice what they need to, and throw out 50% of what they purchase.
Forget subsidies to the sugar industry. At least they produce a real product.
How about government action to eliminate the subsidies to the corn industry? Something like 3/4 of the protein in the average American's body is made of corn products from the beef, pork, chicken, HFCS and Doritos that we eat.
If the free market once again chose the building blocks for the food we stick in our collective pie hole, a lot of the shit would go back to being made with healthier ingredients like it used to be back in the 20th Century.
Of course, it would skew the results in the Iowa primaries.
the gene pool does need some thinning
Children of the Generation X will not outlive their parents. Whose fault is it? Not McDonalds. It's the parents fault in accordance with our educational system. America is producing fat lazy stupid people who have no choice but comply with government regulations which is exactly what the government wants. When personal value systems are incorporated in childrens education, then we can have the energy and the know how to create a society that can stand up to obesity, diabetes, and heart disease. Please all you overweight ignorant assholes, respond to this inquiry. Im thin!!!! It's only because I watch what I eat, pay attention to what I learn and regiment myself based on principles which allow me function in a society where I don't have to pay attention to what I see and hear from the government.
now I see why DHS bought so much ammo... gotta punch through the fat before you can make the kill
Hey, anyone want to invest in my new venture, LardGuard™?
They just figured out that artificial sweetener poison like aspartame, ascesulfame-k, sucralose, splenda etc. does slow kill a little faster and better with less expense than high fructose corn syrup. There are lots of products now that actually have both.
Throw in some GMO crops covered in pesticide to help along your death and they're looking at some pretty significant Medicare/caid/SS savings.
90% of the "food" in grocery stores does not contain any nutrition.
Eat clean or die bitchez!
I think that the GMO Wheat with all of the Pesticides is what is causing so many people to become Gluten Intolerant.
Gliadin. It's not the wheat of old.
It's an opiate. Seriously...
The Farming Industry gives Cows, Pigs, etc. Growth Hormones to make them FAT fast. We then eat the Meat of those animals with all of the Growth Hormones in them. Is it any wonder we are fat?
That and they are all fed corn, which none of them naturally eat. Corn makes them fatter. We eat the meat and then we get fatter.
Most "food" sold in the United States, if you trace it to the source, is corn or corn derivatives. There's a great documentary on this, called "King Corn,"
Thanks I will look for the Documentary on Youtube.
And they are now fed GMO corn
;\\Eating genetically modified corn (GM corn) and consuming trace levels of Monsanto’s Roundup chemical fertilizer caused rats to develop horrifying tumors, widespread organ damage, and premature death. That’s the conclusion of a shocking new study that looked at the long-term effects of consuming Monsanto’s genetically modified corn.
The study has been deemed “the most thorough research ever published into the health effects of GM food crops and the herbicide Roundup on rats.” News of the horrifying findings is spreading like wildfire across the internet, with even the mainstream media seemingly in shock over the photos of rats with multiple grotesque tumors… tumors so large the rats even had difficulty breathing in some cases. GMOs may be the new thalidomide.
“Monsanto Roundup weedkiller and GM maize implicated in ‘shocking’ new cancer study” wrote The Grocery, a popular UK publication. (http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/topics/technology-and-supply-chain/monsant…)
It reported, “Scientists found that rats exposed to even the smallest amounts, developed mammary tumors and severe liver and kidney damage as early as four months in males, and seven months for females.”
The Daily Mail reported, “Fresh row over GM foods as French study claims rats fed the controversial crops suffered tumors.” (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2205509/Fresh-fears-GM…)
It goes on to say: “The animals on the GM diet suffered mammary tumors, as well as severe liver and kidney damage. The researchers said 50 percent of males and 70 percent of females died prematurely, compared with only 30 percent and 20 percent in the control group.”
I guess I'm guilty of wanting a nanny state that makes sure research isn't designed around pretending there is no risk in modern food production.
While Monsanto has no interest in long term studies on its GMO corn, those sneaky French managed to conduct a long term study on genetically modified corn without Big Ag knowing about it:
http://www.infowars.com/new-gmo-study-rats-fed-lifetime-of-gm-corn-grow-tumors-70-of-females-die-early/
Children of the Generation X will not outlive their parents. Whose fault is it? Not McDonalds. It's the parents fault in accordance with our educational system. America is producing fat lazy stupid people who have no choice but comply with government regulations which is exactly what the government wants. When personal value systems are incorporated in childrens education, then we can have the energy and the know how to create a society that can stand up to obesity, diabetes, and heart disease. Please all you overweight ignorant assholes, respond to this inquiry. Im thin!!!! It's only because I watch what I eat, pay attention to what I learn and regiment myself based on principles which allow me function in a society where I don't have to pay attention to what I see and hear from the government.
If you are a product of the educational system, it needs more than regimenting. btw, no need to double post.
Not all regulations are bad. Let to the individual very few have the disciplene to avoid bad choices, and in many cases have no realistic choice. Transfats are an example of the worst poisons the food industry gave us, drugged up milk and meat follow, and it now seems BPA may be another bad all star. Let alone ncreasing the sodium content every year.
Fuck him
short fried mayonnaise balls
...how about we get rid of this Fat and corrupt government first?
Here are some examples of how much the government cares (all recent reports):
Study raises questions about the safety of riceA new Consumer Reports investigation finds that most brands of rice include significant levels of arsenic — which, of course, is a pretty nasty carcinogen. Yet there is no federal limit on the amount of arsenic allowed in most foods.
Arctic ice shrinks to all-time low; half 1980 sizehttp://news.yahoo.com/arctic-ice-shrinks-time-low-half-1980-size-1752427...
Premiums inching higher for popular Medicare planshttp://news.yahoo.com/premiums-inching-higher-popular-medicare-plans-143...
In summary, you can eat poison just not the kind you want. You can destroy the planet and the US govt being the biggest abuser of that. And you can pay for free health care which we will tell you will save you money but it really will drive you into poverty so that we can control everything you do and make you a slave.
Taxation is absolutely retarded... The most unpolitical answer is thtat we gotta let the ones with diseses just die.. Much like evolution occured in the past it will continue forward as it should. The only intensive funding we should have is for stem cells and nothing more... This is the big pharma corporations worst nightmare.. For this threatens their industry... Furthermore, for most people fear of death controls our progress in paralyzing fashion.. Instead, enjoy and cherish your time with loved ones now.. The cure is simple like water and air are absolute necessities, so is exercise!!! Not just walking casually, but testing your limits and going through the discomfort stages that must be endured..
I suspect that along with the government telling you what to eat you will need government approval to be exempt from the requirement to kneel before your local government functionary for your daily "protain allocation".
I call my extra pounds "prepping"
It's an accepted tactic in specialized military schools, but they are prepping for something 8-16 weeks duration and if they survive the program, they still end up weighing a hell of lot less than when they started.
Find it odd that the same country that has record number of folks on food stamps and also seeing how many folks are supposedly starving in this country accoding to some PSA's live in the same place that is needing to restrict diets because these same people are too fat. Funny how back in the day the well to do were plump and that was thought to be good and attractive while the poor were thin. Now the poor are the fat one's and the wealthy are thin.
Maybe they better revoke lots of the dangerous stuff already out there... first being Donald "Douchebag" rumsfeld's Aspartame... what a crooked fucking scam THAT deal was... this stuff is POISON!! Also, the statin drugs, and the anti-depressants are all corporate bullshit too... oops!! Did I speak out of school, Comrade??
I personally avoid all drugs that aren't recreational.
Actually, I avoid all drugs, but that doesn't sound as funny.
Gov't "wants" people to eat healthier but does everything they can to make it difficult to do so. Look at what's happening with the destruction of family farms, raw milk, making it practically illegal to even give away a tomato that you grew, and soon even growing tomatoes. Codex Alimentarius. Trying to restrict all nutritional supplements. etc.
Fat bastards
Motherfuckers
Regulate yourself. The Kingdom of God is within.
Judging from the people I see as I drive past Wal-Mart, the inner Kingdom of God has reached epic proportions.
Well it's not as if a press conference means impending legislation. But it'll be interesting to see if anyone bothers to notice this.
The BMI is a badly oversimplified number. The "overweight" category includes way too many people with large frames and healthy bodyfat levels, and the "healthy" category includes lots of "fat but small-frame" people who should really slim down some.
Two numbers just aren't sufficient to describe "healthy" body-types. This is something people already understand.
I'd mention, too: perhaps you can point to $150B of "fat-caused" spending, but who's quantifying all the SAVINGS on Federal expenditures because fat folks are more likely to die before they're old enough to start collecting Social Security or Medicare?
Considering the way our health-care spending tends to break down in the US, I suspect obesity is a net BOON because of earlier mortality.
Follow the money.
On a personal level, I'm totally opposed to government demanding more power to control our diet (mostly because I'm opposed to government).
But GIVEN that the Feds are already all up in a lot of people's faces about diet, I wouldn't mind seeing similar levels of subsidization of HEALTHY food alternatives that they've long provided for the manufacturers of crap.
That is: if every military base in the world is going to carry Little Debbie cakes, it would make a certain amount of sense to me if they ALSO had to carry low-salt veggie-nutrient bars for folks who actually care about what they eat.
If major agribusinesses are given all kinds of privileges, small local farms raising livestock that isn't fed corn, cardboard, and antibiotics should be equally eligible for govenment largesse.
OBVIOUSLY the profit-motive is going to push out any desire for a LARGE business to create *healthy* food. But there are plenty of people who'd LIKE to create healthy food and would be satisfied with slightly lower profit margins because they were getting to participate in work that means something and is simple and satisfying.
Subsidies and incentives are only anti-capitalist if they don't benefit Monsanto.
That was a joke.
Even being an economic agnostic, I agree that they're doing capitalism wrong.
I would think muscle mass is would be the more common variable identifying healthy individuals with an otherwise unhealthy BMI.
True, either/both. Muscle and bone are both denser than fat, and both are significantly variable. I used to be fat and had a "healthy" BMI. After a year in the gym, I'm no longer fat but have an "overweight" BMI.
I'm 5'10" @ 205. (Note: yes, I should drop about 15 lbs.) A friend of mine is 6' even, and his shoulders are LITERALLY 8" broader than mine. When he was overweight, he weighed 260lbs before anyone started remarking about his being fat. He'd played football in HS and weighed 220 when he was at "peak fitness."
Years later, after a major health problem, he's lost all the fat and a lot of muscle--he looks a bit on the emaciated side, actually--but he's STILL over 210!
The better BMI charts show wrist- and elbow-circumference measurements to take to estimate the size of your "frame," and if you apply those details, it becomes a lot more useful as a statistical guide.
Most BMI calculators combine men and women within the same weight range. Typically men have larger frames than women and they also generally have more muscle mass.
A slightly better calculator that includes gender and age is here: http://www.halls.md/ideal-weight/body.htm
I'd like to regulate what they spend and teach obama how to not throw like a girl
Maybe it is about time for policies that brought about some artificial scarcity to tackle all this overindulgence
Like hikes in general price levels, especially on core consumables like energy and food; major purchasing power decreases; reduced labour participation; expansion of food rationing, sorry, stamp programs....
We're in good hands
Don't tax the food, tax the fat people directly. I mean go directly to the source. If a person can eat what they want and it does't effect them in the same negative way it does someone else, and we know this is the case, then don't penalize the person that doesn't have the problem. Since the target is "fat people" then penalize the fat and leave the thin one's alone. Every year as you do your taxes you step on the govt scale and pay a fine for every lb you are more than what your govt wants you to way.
all your yummy are belong to us
Michelle Obama says it's a national security issue. None of you fat fu**s can fit into your uniform to invade the barbarian hordes lands and you are all a discrace to you're country.
Leave meat out of it.Actually grass fed meat.The guy from the movie "The Green Mile",stopped meat, dropped like a bag of hammers.
No More Fat Fuckers Bitchez. They stink. Especially on jogging tracks. But I know enough not to get between a fat person and their food. Federal psychos are asking for trouble.
At the rate that Americans are becoming obese, the enemy will not need target practice.
I love how soda's will be banned but not the fattening components in them like HFCS' and Aspartame. More liberal fascism to come, we can thank SF for that.
There's nothing "liberal" about laws intended to control dietary choices.
Washingtons Blog had a post on the fact that animals and 6 month infants are getting fatter, which points to something in the environment.
Some scientists blame endocrine disrupters, like the BPA that so many kids injested for years from their baby bottles. But hey, buyer beware. Any idiot should know to stay away from endocrine disrupters.
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-bpa-obesity-20120919,0,3018132.story
Not to worry, included in FED's mandate already, and they are on the job. The targeted inflation will make food unaffordable so this should be taken care of with the new printing. No need to fear when Ben is near.
Probably better to stop fat people from replicating rather than from eating.
In my opinion, the American Medical Association ( AMA) and the Pharmaceutical industry have been acting as the ultimate enablers of the fatties. Always pushing magic pills as the solution to all that ails instead of being honest and a grown up and telling people they are sick most likely because they are obesse. Yes there are notable exceptions to this generalization but lets face it the usual solution to everything is pills instead of actually learning how to eat healthy and having the discipline to do some regular exercise.
Quite frankly it is offensive and embarrasing to see hordes of 350lb slobs walking (waddling all out of breath) around the country. You know the majority of them likely collect the money to stuff their pie holes from their govenment checks so in all fairness their Nanny does need to approve their menu and their Nanny is running out of money since they eat too much and drink too much and poop too much and now have become sick from their glutteny. Nanny needs to baby poor American spoiled brats.
Honey booboo says PORK RINDS AREN'T JUST FOR BREAKFAST
Thats not what i see in the movies
Reading this article and some of the responses you realise what is wrong with America. You have a populace that resents being told to zip its mouth and a government that resents zipping its pocket.
The problem is that rich people can be fat because they can afford the food and afford the medical treatment on their own. The government stepped in and started giving poor people EBT cards and free healthcare so they can have the same lifestyle because it isn't "fair". Just like the housing bubble where the government coerced banks to lend to people that couldn't afford houses, see Fannie and Freddie's balance sheets, now the government is causing a fat bubble that they can't afford even with socialized health care.
On one hand you must admit that Americans simply can't control their wanton appetites, leading to a surge in obesity and concomitant healthcare costs. On the other hand, you don't want government intervention. I guess what you're really advocating is that America just simply eat itself to death.
what is happening is that they know they can't regulate the people producing the crap - because they are beholden to them. so - they are trying to regulate the people. none of it will work.
FDA for example. we know that i'm not allowed to grind rusty nails into sausages anymore. but - the rest of the stuff - probably just as bad is allowed. so the next step is to try to get people to stop eating so much stuff with rusty nails. infact - just stuffing rusted iron into sausages to increase the weight and the price paid by weight might not be as bad as some of the stuff that they put into everything.
the intention of bloomberg really is good. it's just the means and the delivery step on freedom.
it hurts me, because it becomes more and more difficult to source 'food'. forcing the portions sold smaller is the best that the people trying to be positive can hope for.
The future! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6d4kCdbLc0&feature=related
dupe
Trip...... This is the problem.... just can't stop at one.
I knew this was coming once they passed the seat belt laws and the war on smoking went so well.
I swear to god I blame a large portion of the obesity on High Fructose Corn Syrup and diet food. Neither of which allows the body to register that it is in fact full.
If you like say cake. I love cake or pie.
Have one made with 100% sugar and eat as much of it as you want in one sitting.
Get a similar cake or pie in a store made with High Fructose Corn Syrup and in one sitting just eat as mush of it as you want.
My guess is going to be about 1 slice of sugar cake will pretty well fill you up, two will make you sick. The HFC cake you will probably eat 1/2 the freakin cake if you eat all you want. The HFC does not activate the bodies "I'm full meter"
Also so many restaurants (about all now) and processed food companies use MSG. MSG fools the brain into thinking that what you are eating tastes really good, wonderful, best ever maybe. The MSG causes people over eat cause they think it's great when it's really crap.
I'm not saying that people don't have a responsibility to their body. I just believe that the food and restaurant industry is playing nasty tricks. They will regulate food and portion size but I bet the true evils HFCS and MSG will stay.
As in the monetary system we are getting gamed on the food side as well.
Plus I find it curious that they are going "Fruit and Veggie" nuts and the GMO stuff is really ramping up. I trust the GMO stuff even less than HFCS and MSG.
You hit the nail right on the head.
So are they going to ban fruit juice, beer, margaritas and strawberry daiquiris too?
Wonder what's in the details of the new contract the teacher's signed in Chicago? Most pictures depicted a school system run by corn fed hogs.
Indeed, photo's reveal that the vast majority of the "edjukators" need to wash their fat ass with a rag on a stick as the upper arm fat does not allow for much reach.
LOL! Graphic - but funny!
Nutritional balance will be brought to lunch rooms for the sake of the children. The teachers will continue to gorge themselves with the pay and lifetime of benefits received at the expense of the taxpayer.
A Slippery Slope indeed!
First they came for the "Big Gulp" 128oz diet-soda - and I sed nuttin.
Next they came for the McBudget Buckets of fried pork rinds - and I sed nuttin.Soon after they came for the 5-topping, crust-stuffed pizza - and I sed nuttin
After that, it was party-packs of trans-fat donuts - and I said nuttin
Now they're eyeing the Michelle Ass-sized boxes of McHillary Thighs (deep-fried in Chris Christie McBlubber) and there's no one left to burp, belch or fart for me.
Too bad the government won't follow its own advice, put the deficit on a diet.
At some point you will pick up your .gov approved rations from your local food bank. Technically it will be known as a GAP (government approved portions), but the .govs will be portraying it as "free and delicious". The sheeple will rejoice that .gov has so thoughtfully taken care of them and taken the burden of cooking meals out of their busy days. As the sheeple enjoy their "Victory Beans and Rice", some will look forward to the treat of a fresh apple or tomato (a rare occurance now). Some will recall what it was like to pick such fruits from their garden, or purchase them from a specialty store before such practices were outlawed in the name of fairness. You see, it was unfair that certain people had the ability to grow their own, or the excess money to purchse exotic fruits and vegetables, so .gov determined it was most fair for everyone to enjoy the same meal. Oh you can find fresh items, but you need to be in the know and have a few silver dollars to open the door. At least the obesity that plagued the country has been brought under control, leaving the .gov to solve the problems of mal-nutition, food hoarding, or even worse illegal farming.
This is just more Jew crap. Rabbis kept control of their flock by dictating everything they did, when they went to the bathroom, what rituals to obey, etc. This is the difference between a jew run world and one run by free gentiles. Get used to it because it will only get worse.
and yet no discussion on the complicity of the FDA and the links between chemicals like BPA, BPS, HFC, MSG and obesity. The raw calorie count isn't the only part of the story. Its fun to say "put down that twinkie" but those chemicals are showing up in everything from canned veggies, cereal, fruit juice, you name it. I'm no health nut, but dammit there are things your body was never built to process being put into your food. The research is there.
Big Agro, Big Chemical and Big Pharma have lobbyists to buy off politicians, and I guess Big Ass doesn't. Once again citizens are the low hanging fruit.
The real issue is the morbid obesity of the US government, the fascist parade float that makes Jabba The Hutt look like Usain Bolt.
e study, led by Gilles-Eric Seralini of the University of Caen, was the first ever study to examine the long-term (lifetime) effects of eating GMOs. You may find yourself thinking it is absolutely astonishing that no such studies were ever conducted before GM corn was approved for widespread use by the USDA and FDA, but such is the power of corporate lobbying and corporate greed.
The study was published in The Food & Chemical Toxicology Journal and was just presented at a news conference in London.
Findings from the study
Here are some of the shocking findings from the study:
• Up to 50% of males and 70% of females suffered premature death.
• Rats that drank trace amounts of Roundup (at levels legally allowed in the water supply) had a 200% to 300% increase in large tumors.
• Rats fed GM corn and traces of Roundup suffered severe organic damage including liver damage and kidney damage.
• The study fed these rats NK603, the Monsanto variety of GM corn that’s grown across North America and widely fed to animals and humans. This is the same corn that’s in your corn-based breakfast cereal, corn tortillas and corn snack chips.
The Daily Mail is reporting on some of the reaction to the findings:
France’s Jose Bove, vice-chairman of the European Parliament’s commission for agriculture and known as a fierce opponent of GM, called for an immediate suspension of all EU cultivation and import authorisations of GM crops. ‘This study finally shows we are right and that it is urgent to quickly review all GMO evaluation processes,’ he said in a statement. ‘National and European food security agencies must carry out new studies financed by public funding to guarantee healthy food for European consumers.’(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2205509/Fresh-fears-GM…)
Read the study abstract
The study is entitled, “A Comparison of the Effects of Three GM Corn Varieties on Mammalian Health.” Read the abstract here:
http://www.biolsci.org/v05p0706.htm
That abstract include this text. Note: “hepatorenal toxicity” means toxic to the liver.
Our analysis clearly reveals for the 3 GMOs new side effects linked with GM maize consumption, which were sex- and often dose-dependent. Effects were mostly associated with the kidney and liver, the dietary detoxifying organs, although different between the 3 GMOs. Other effects were also noticed in the heart, adrenal glands, spleen and haematopoietic system. We conclude that these data highlight signs of hepatorenal toxicity, possibly due to the new pesticides specific to each GM corn. In addition, unintended direct or indirect metabolic consequences of the genetic modification cannot be excluded.
Here are some quotes from the researchers:
“This research shows an extraordinary number of tumors developing earlier and more aggressively – particularly in female animals. I am shocked by the extreme negative health impacts.” – Dr Michael Antoniou, molecular biologist, King’s College London.
“We can expect that the consumption of GM maize and the herbicide Roundup, impacts seriously on human health.” – Dr Antoniou.
“This is the first time that a long-term animal feeding trial has examined the impact of feeding GM corn or the herbicide Roundup, or a combination of both and the results are extremely serious. In the male rats, there was liver and kidney disorders, including tumors and even more worryingly, in the female rats, there were mammary tumors at a level which is extremely concerning; up to 80 percent of the female rats had mammary tumors by the end of the trial.” – Patrick Holden, Director, Sustainable Food Trust
I have a personal point of view that generally gets me crucified. Anyone notice that the rise in obesity started with all the anti-smoking craziness? A little common sense (and your own eyes if you know people who have quit) tells you that quitting smoking causes weight gain. Period. That, combined with the sedentary lifestyle cars, computers, and big screen TV have brought about, is the cause. Trying to blame it on the food is wrong IMHO as too much food is always stored by the body as fat when the body is not burning all you take in. One piece of evidence? The "Greatest Generation" is longest lived in our nation's history and they were the first to have cigarettes readily available and affordable. Cigarette bans were simply the first step in liberals fight to make people behave the way the liberals want them to as, of course, they are so much smarter than the rest of us!
Read Wheat Belly by Dr. William Davis!
Modern wheat, mutated with Sodium Azide and ionizing radiation.
Dubbed 'The perfect chronic poison', causes inflammed visceral fat to form around organs, causes diabetes, heart disease, IBS, colitis, etc.
Americans are doughy from too much...dough...meh hehe
Thanks for the recommendation. I actually just read about that on diseaseproof.
pods
Wheat Belly is a good book but has some problems: http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2011/10/wheat-belly-toll-of-hubri...
As I said in past posts, you can't have socialized medicine {ObamaCare}without also having SOCIAL CONTROLS. Of course they are going to tell you what to eat and drink. Soon, they will have Doctor's reporting their patient's BMI, glucose reading, blood pressure reading, cholesterol numbers, etc, etc. You will be taxed on your numbers. Get them in the gubmint prescribed ranges, and your tax is only 5%! Then there is the mandatory daily exercise.You will be monitored via an interactive program over your TV set that you are in conplience. Miss a session, and you are fined. Mandatory minimum of eight hours sleep too. You are going to just love the brave new world they have planned for you comrade! And the best part of it all is; YOU GET TO PAY FOR ALL OF IT TOO!
ObamaCare isn't socialized medicine, though. You'd have a good point if it were.
i despise big government and this is clearly obese government at work....it is true that sugar is a poison which reduces the immune system and plays havoc with blood sugar and much more.....sugar substitutes are simply another evil - not a solution....fruit is no better.....
yet it is obese government which subsidized grain production to unhealthy levels which contributed to the obesity - long topic but that's the punch line....and of course the poisonous synthetic plastics put in the household are also to blame....coke, mcdonalds, hostess ho hos, and the evil processed food makers are only part of the guilty parties - obese government is an equally responsible party....
As soon as obesity is quantified, all of a sudden health and wellbeing becomes an urgent concern of the government...
Forget about guns, alcohol, jihad, unemployment and inflation. The real threat to Amerika is a double whopper.
I think if they sold health insurance like car insurance maybe people would start taking better care of themselves. If your a good driver you get a better rate. If I exercise everyday and eat healthy I pay the same as someone that's obese, doesn't exercise and has a horrible diet. There is no incentive in the system to stay healthy. I think if insurance companies spent more time trying to get people to exercise and eat healthy, healthcare costs would drop. More healthy people in the system would cause insurance and hospital costs to go down.
Never had the problem myself that so many Americans seem to have, which is going to bed one night at 195 lbs (tall) and waking up the next day at 300 lbs. Just lucky, I guess.
Cover for imposing codex alumentarius. No more healthy food, the disobedient proletariate must die.
The problem of obesity will likely solve itself with QEternity. Food prices are rising much faster than EBT balances. The beauty of this solution is that the faster EBT balances rise... the higher food prices will go.
If 32 oz drinks are outlawed, then only outlaws will have 32 oz drinks, bitchez
This is a good thing! Why? Because statistics prove that the average American is seemingly too dumb to take care of himself. And that would be FINE...if it wouldn't result in massive costs for everyone else.
The same goes for the real estate industry. In a free market with rational (!!) players regulation wouldn't be needed. However, as we all know, people AREN'T rational...so regulation is needed.
This "regulation is always bad" mentality is ridiculous!
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love US burgers :)