Deutsche Bank Exercises In MADness: "Crisis Likely To Get Worse Before It Can Get Better... If Indeed It Ever Does"

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Fri, 11/25/2011 - 11:55 | 1912918 BaBaBouy
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Rotten To The Korzine ...

 

No chance ever of this Mega-debt to be paid off.

AND Don't think the US is any different.

Same shit, they print more Paper Fiats, and its a Fiat Race to the Bottom...

 

While Russian and other CB's loading up on DELIVERED Physical Gold.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:03 | 1912985 Ahmeexnal
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And selling eurozone gold is also out of the option table, because....it's already gone!

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:05 | 1912995 Ethics Gradient
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I see the beard and will myself not to read your comments. I try, Lord knows, but I can't stop myself and each time I read, a little piece of me dies.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:21 | 1913044 MillionDollarBonus_
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I personally share Jim Reid's sentiments. The process of European integration and fiscal union has been painfully slow, and lacking in real economic reforms. President Herman Van Rompuy summed up Europe's central weakness nicely when he said:

"We cannot have a common currency, a common monetary policy, and leave everything else to the states involved, and yet this is what we have experienced"

In order to implement effective and broad fiscal stimulus programs, the European commission needs more power over legislation and indeed taxation. Europe is at a cross-roads: it is time for them to decide whether they want capital to be allocated by

(a) Experienced economic and political professionals of the highest degree

or

(b) Smelly Euro-trash party animals

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:41 | 1913100 Nobody For President
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I'll take Euro-trash party animals for $200, Alex.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:54 | 1913155 BaBaBouy
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"" (a) Experienced economic and political professionals of the highest degree ""

 

Hahahahahahahahahaha ... Thats so funny .

PS, I Gata Bridge to sell you ...

 

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:08 | 1913390 caconhma
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Normal people always prefer a "nice & clean" girl rather than a highly professional and experienced whore.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:48 | 1913110 Escapeclaws
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Why is it that the word "reform" always means sticking it to the powerless?

Prison reform--now we just tazer them when they get out of line.

Economic reform--cut benefits like SS and Medicare, cut back on poverty programs such as heating supplements in the NE, cut back on unemployment benefits, raise taxes on the middle class and cut out deductions for RE taxes and mortgage interest, etc

Health Care reform--giving the Insurance industry everything it asks for, thus raising deductibles and premiums while disqualifying people who might have the temerity to get sick.

etc. You get the point. One of those weasel words, like your boss saying there are "concerns" about your performance.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:53 | 1913140 Bicycle Repairman
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"Why is it that the word "reform" always means sticking it to the powerless."

Because you cannot say "stick it to the powerless".  You need to go to the Orwellian double speak style guide and use "reform".

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 13:00 | 1913183 Escapeclaws
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Amen to that.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 13:22 | 1913238 fonestar
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A better alternative is for the citizens of Europe and the UK to rise up and overthrow their respective governments, charge them with treason and imprison them.  If they offer resistance, execute them.  Set up a vetted citizen's tribunal on both sides of the Atlantic to investigate anyone who holds public office for any financial ties to entities such as GS, MS, JPM, Barclays et al.  Expell them from office or put them on trial.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 13:36 | 1913269 english serf
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Please please please let me be on the committee!

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 15:00 | 1913566 upWising
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How about the same "reform" program that you suggest for European Government functionaries and lackeys (prison or execution) apply to their sops and apologists here on ZH?  Yes, I am talking about YOU :: Million Dollar Idiot!  Off with your tiny little head and other tiny little appendages!

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 18:48 | 1914053 BlakeFelix
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MDB is hilarious. I often get a couple sentences in before I stop and have to ask myself "Is this guy serious?" Then I glance back and see it's MDB. Then I lol. Gallows humor is the best kind.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 18:13 | 1914016 Schmuck Raker
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"Toga! ... Toga! ... Toga!"

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:11 | 1913004 ratso
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It is unrealistic for anyone to expect Germany to bear the burden of the Eurozone debt.  Any plan in which they become the ultimate guarantor will be still born.  It is also unrealistic to think that Eurozone countries are prepared to surrender their fiscal sovereignty at this stage of the game when they have no leverage and have to bargain from a position of weakness .

So, there will be a painful but gradual dissolution of the Eurozone as it is now constituted. What kind of arrangment the present Eurozone morphs into can not be seen from here because the current members have not adequately viewed this option and understood its consequneces.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 11:44 | 1912922 WALLST8MY8BALL
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Husum- we have a problem...

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:17 | 1913042 He_Who Carried ...
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Politicians need to stop giving costly presents to their client constituents and BIG government has to stop spending the money of our kids.
Right on, Mrs. Merkel. Your fight is pro democracy!

All this blabla about ceding souvereignty to the Germans is fear mongering germanophobe nonsense as has been displayed by the London Times. This is about the EU which Germany wants to prevail and ALL governments finally have to give up some fiscal souvereignty in order to make the monetary union work. If the Brits are scared of it, so be it! Italians, French and Germans have to and will work together on this.

If markets are impatient and want a quick fix a la Bernank they need to wake up. There is no legal background for QE-style intervention neither in France nor in Germany and politicians do not want to end up in jail afterall (although some clearly deserve it already!)
Fact is: Companies inside the core Eurozone are earning well, so does a good part of corporate America. Stop being hypocrite about the future by predicting Armageddon. It won't happen! Stop being impatient, start de-leveraging, stop overspending and if trading does not support the lifestyle of those dumb Squid managers anymore, they better go and find themselves a real job!

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:58 | 1913168 Escapeclaws
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If the US is anything to go by, giving up local or state rights in favor of federal oversight is the road to serfdom. The Europeans would be fools to fall into that trap. It just leads to a vast centralization of banker and corporate power with no say for ordinary citizens.  Smaller is always better in matters of politics and government.  Let's hope the Europeans don't give up one iota of their sovereign power.  In addition, Brussels is trying to pull a Paulson, with the insistance that the financial reforms it institutes will be irreversible, un-auditable, and secret, with no legal recourse.

Hopefully, at some point, power in the US will return to the states and the odious and illegal debt imposed by the bankers will be spurned. Only in smaller judicial entities is there any chance for justice for ordinary people and control over sociopathic elements ranging from individuals to giant corporations.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 13:04 | 1913194 He_Who Carried ...
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Oh sure. Revert to petty chiefdoms and funny principalities is the answer.
Having fun living in the medieval eating acorns and riding barren horses to town to grab some garb and lettuce? Ridiculous idea! You shoulda changed the type of weed you're smokin' some time ago.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 13:26 | 1913248 Escapeclaws
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What wheezing mule did you ride into town on?

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 13:49 | 1913318 He_Who Carried ...
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Its called BenB, its for sale actually. Want it?

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 14:30 | 1913475 Escapeclaws
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Only if it doesn't mind being insulted.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 11:45 | 1912924 bugs_
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is it really a crisis anymore?

political class standing around the crater waving hands in denial.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:05 | 1912993 donsluck
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Excellent, simple and clear. I like your thinking. It is no longer a crises, now it's a predictable process, trade accordingly.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 11:46 | 1912927 GeneMarchbanks
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DB knows the end is near. Eurobonds are dead. Germans aren't giving in to this 'engineered crisis' and Merkel appears to be the honey badger...

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:06 | 1912999 SheepDog-One
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Honey badger dont give a damn.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:46 | 1913122 The Fonz
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I had never heard of "Honey Badger" here is a link to the video that explains it :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:44 | 1913111 JungleJim
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"Honey Badger", or, "Honey Pot" ?

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 11:47 | 1912929 tony bonn
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good - let the crisis get worse to wipe out the crapulence infesting europe's economy - to say nothing of the usa economy

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 11:48 | 1912931 michaelsmith_9
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The crisis will likely get worse.  The technicals are pointing to a longer term move lower in coming in the weeks ahead.  A short term retracement seems to be underway for the SPX and DX as they continue to move inversely to each other.  The DX continues to remain in a very bullish formation.  The chart technicals are available here.  http://bit.ly/v5PdJS

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 11:48 | 1912933 vast-dom
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post-apocalyptic fiscal union. 

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:36 | 1913085 Elwood P Suggins
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The insolvent leading the insolvent.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 00:45 | 1914623 Big Slick
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"post-apocalyptic fiscal union." 

Monetary unit?

 

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 11:50 | 1912936 Caviar Emptor
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Yes. It should be scary to all that things are getting worse slowly and not suddenly like in a crash. It signals that the rebound will be slow and painful and may never reach the previous peak. It means that business as usual is bad and that the economy is retrenching. No external shock, just internal weakness

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 11:50 | 1912937 sabra1
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after all is lost, we 99%ers are coming after you, your families, even your pets! you can chem trail us, place more flouride into the water supply, inject gardasil into boys, build more nuclear reactors on fault lines, nuke us with those airport scanners,we're still coming after you! even if we're all mutants, we're coming after you! GOT IT???

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:06 | 1912997 topcallingtroll
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Chem trails?

Buwahahahaha!

We have another million dollar bonus and hamy here.

A paranoid wacko socialist-survivalist.
Chem trail believers usually dont talk the 99% talk.

Whats next? A drag queen oath keeper?

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:26 | 1913064 mess nonster
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Keep your commie hands of my Constitution! ... and my nylons...

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:07 | 1913001 economics1996
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Go after the politiciians.  Start with Princess Nancy and her court jester John Kerry and his corrupt skinny ass.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:23 | 1913056 CORNGUY
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How are you going to tell who 1%ers are?

 

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 20:31 | 1916320 StychoKiller
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Peasant #1:  "He must be a King!"

Peasant #2: "How do you know he's a King?"

Peasant #1:  "He hasn't got shit all over'im!"

"Monty Python's Holy Grail"

 

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 11:51 | 1912943 lolmao500
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Duh. Deutsche Bank found their brain?

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 11:51 | 1912944 PaperBear
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Have we seen the bottom for gold/silver - $1,671/oz and $30.88/oz ?

Record Gold Hoard Spurs Bullish Bets Eric Sprott Asking Silver Producers to Save in Silver
Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:09 | 1913005 SheepDog-One
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I dont care what silver and gold are price at in USD.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 13:33 | 1913257 Pegasus Muse
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I don't know if precious metal investors can trust Sprott and Sprott's funds anymore. He has repeatedly issued Follow-On Offerings in his PHYS (gold fund) which effectively robbed investors of their accrued premiums resulting from the increase in the POG in the market. Investor put their capital at risk by investing in Sprott's fund. Instead of being rewarded, they watch as the fund manager skims off some their premium.

And now, after promising not to, Sprott apparently is going to do the same thing in his PSLV (silver fund). Ref: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1494728/000091957411006436/d12437... https://www.caseyresearch.com/gsd/critical-read/sprott-asset-management-files-15-billion-short-form-shelf-prospectus-pslv-0

Sprott told Eric King, in his Jan 29, 2011 interview, that he “would not do anything to hurt existing shareholders of PSLV”. At the time, Sprott was well aware of the anger and pushback he getting from existing shareholders after he diluted them by executing several Follow-On Offerings in the PHYS. Clearly, Sprott implied in this interview he would not do Follow-On Offerings of PSLV shares.

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2011/1/29_Eric_Sprott.html

You listen. You decide.

I am coming to realization investors cannot trust anyone in the financial services industry. Even the advocates of Precious Metals. Buy the physical. Hold it yourself so you don't get ripped off.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 16:06 | 1913717 WhiteNight123129
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I agree somewhat, at the same time you need more physical Silver funds out there so that the paper market gets it lesson, what would you do to increase the quantity of Silver against the paper market ? The more physical silver is traded and the more people decide not to lend their shares, the harder it will get to have the paper market dictate teh price.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 11:52 | 1912945 fonzanoon
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Once the ESFS deploys the trillion dollars into the bond markets things will calm down substantially.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 12:08 | 1912987 JustObserving
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We have shrinkage... the ESFS has shrunk to about $500 billion already ... maybe it's the weather, maybe it's Merkel ..but the ESFS gets more flaccid everyday

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 11:52 | 1912948 spartan117
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Tyler, it's obvious Germany wants the Euro DOWN.  I mean they ARE an export oriented country.  By telling the world how bad the Eurozone is, they get to have their cake and eat it to.  A weak Euro without the necessity to print. 

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