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Did A Large European Bank Almost Fail Last Night?

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Need a reason to explain the massive central bank intervention from China, to Japan, Switzerland, the ECB, England and all the way to the US? Forbes may have one explanation: "It appears that a big European bank got close to failure last night.  European banks, especially French banks, rely heavily on funding in the wholesale money markets.  It appears that a major bank was having difficulty funding its immediate liquidity needs. The cavalry was called in and has come to the successful rescue." Granted the post is rather weak on factual backing and is mostly  speculative, but it would certainly make sense. That said, it harkens back to our original question: just how bad was the situation if the global central banking cabal had to intervene all over again, and just what was not being told to the general public? Lastly, and most important, slapping liquidity bandaids on solvency gangrenes does nothing but buy a few days at most. Furthermore, we now expect the stigmata associated with borrowing from the Fed to haunt each and every European bank as vigilantes will now use the weekly ECB update on borrowings from the Fed as a signal to hone in on this and that weak Italian and French, pardon, European bank.

More from Forbes:

These are the type of actions that were being taken during the financial crisis in 2008.  Now most knowledgeable experts agree that not rescuing Lehman Brothers was a mistake.  The authorities are not about to make the same mistake again.  The only explanation for the massive action is that central banks were concerned about a pending failure that is not publically known.  The readers may want to make their own judgment from the following excerpts from a statement by the Federal Reserve.

 

These central banks have agreed to lower the pricing on the existing temporary U.S. dollar liquidity swap arrangements by 50 basis points so that the new rate will be the U.S. dollar overnight index swap (OIS) rate plus 50 basis points. This pricing will be applied to all operations conducted from December 5, 2011. The authorization of these swap arrangements has been extended to February 1, 2013. In addition, the Bank of England, the Bank of Japan, the European Central Bank, and the Swiss National Bank will continue to offer three-month tenders until further notice.

h/t Maurice Pomery

 

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Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:42 | 1930257 Josh Randall
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Wait until a big US bank almost fails EVERY NIGHT

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:45 | 1930278 UGrev
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The frequency in which bank failures "Almost Happen" is increasing dramatically. The ability to "save" them (if you call re-animation 'saving') is diminished just as quick. 

The charade cannot continue without total collapse of the global economy. The great reset cometh!

I have to go count my cans of beans now.. 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:57 | 1930336 DormRoom
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As Tyler says, you can't solve a solvency issue with more liquidity.

 

The casino is still open. sit at the tables, if you want.  But once the financepocalypse occurs, and people whom were virtuous, and didn't overconsume, or overspend, discover their life savings has been wiped out by either hyperinflation, or an equities collapse, will rage.

 

I'm even considering getting more credit,  maxing out my credit cards, buying physical gold with the extra credit, and declaring bankruptcy to fcuk over the banks.

 

Governments will bail out the banks, so why be responsible about saving.

 

 

 

 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:57 | 1930358 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Did we skip the IMF funding phase or is that coming next?

If $400 billion monthly Tresurie auctions weren't already enough, and the possibility of an IMF (read US) bailout of Europe was not enough, now we have more cordinated action from Central Banks to increase liquidity (read decrease the value of fiat) to stabolize (read increase prices) so that everyone can trade their NKE shares for Nike shoes, go on their honeymoons with their dollars to Marriot in Maui, pay their bills with food stamps, and on and on.

This current way of business, at the monetary level, is not only an insuficient way of means, it is insane.  If our problem is that we need more liquidity, we must look back and see what caused the crunch.  It was easy access to debt/fiat.  It made people complacent in understanding true value; true value of goods and time.

Now our measures extend this time frame, but like a cup, our liquidity runneth over.  The policy makers will ask for a bigger straw, but this will just make the piggies fatter.  Soon the piggies will die of heart failure, and once they do, the humanity will wake up realizing that the wealth of the system was drained like the blood of a goat at the alter of the Federal Reserve.

The time is nigh for the crisis to explode.  The deflationary system many are waiting for already happened in '08.  Just because it didn't last the year doesn't mean it wasn't there.  Asset prices collapsed, and time is not a figure in monetary policy, only price.  Once price was "stabolized" the game was over.  The time is nigh for what we don't have a name for- it could be a hyperinflationary event, it could be a great rise in real goods (ie PM/oil) while the cities sleep with suger plum dreams.  It could be anything, so be ready for it.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:26 | 1930563 Fukushima Sam
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Keep up the bank runz, bitchez!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:42 | 1930715 Whalley World
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you mean Zombie bank runz, don't you?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 13:15 | 1930972 trav7777
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banks can't fail...they will just borrow what they need, even from themselves.

If they don't have that kind of juice, just borrow it from their clients' sequestered accounts

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:58 | 1931575 He_Who Carried ...
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Look at the revised ratings from this week and you have the answer, a truly globally operating bank, heavily underwater: Banco Santander!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:07 | 1931944 Mauibrad
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Go to Australia, young man...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:33 | 1930626 Oh regional Indian
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Liquidity runneth over. Like the cup indeed LH. And handle too, while you are at it.

It really does look like the Club of Rome Global Systemic Function is either lacking enough real time data or is overloaded.

Snap, crackle, pop...etc...

ORI

/the-plan/

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:41 | 1930707 old naughty
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I was pondering if I should ask which bank it was. But if the CofR is lacking data, heck, I shouldn't ask, right?

N-ever mind...consciousness keeps perma record. Some know.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:21 | 1932796 terryfuckwit
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barclays did a really weird very brief downward spike bout 1pm huge drop down can still see on the graph if you look

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:59 | 1930365 DoChenRollingBearing
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@ DormRoom: that is the Chumbawamba approach to getting rich!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:01 | 1930375 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Do you like how Sprott went deep into silver right before the cordinated Bank funding move?  Dude is fucking savvy.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:08 | 1930425 prains
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Insider

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:15 | 1930477 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1 for the Occam answer

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:32 | 1930607 ucsbcanuck
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Not surprised that the Kiwi saw it for what it was.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:07 | 1930413 Jay Gould Esq.
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"...just how bad was the situation if the global central banking cabal had to intervene all over againand just what was not being told..."

Rest assured, one of the current dramatis personae in this long-running Euro tragedy -- Frau Merkel, Monsieur Sarkozy, or more likely, Il Cavaliere -- will pen a memoir several years from now, and we will know the answer.

Not that A), There will be any hard currency to purchase said memoir with or, B) Anyone will care in the first place; the dip having been bought, the bonuses long since paid, cashed, and spent.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:45 | 1930280 EscapeKey
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They already do.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:46 | 1930286 The Big Ching-aso
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I wonder which rank bank was ranked worse than the other ranked banks that rank.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:52 | 1930327 hedgeless_horseman
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Dexia was ranked least rank.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:54 | 1930338 GeneMarchbanks
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Matters not. In the end they'll all tank.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:22 | 1930528 The Big Ching-aso
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Tanks for the memories.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 02:38 | 1934072 Blank Reg
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That's not punny.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:48 | 1930302 hack3434
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BAC has $84B in bonds maturing next year. I would say BAC IS already there... 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:49 | 1930808 camaro68ss
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$84B is nothing these days. the bernake can print that in a few hours no sweet.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:59 | 1930351 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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How about European banks and US banks take turns failing, because if the US and Europe collapse on the same day FX traders will collapse the currentsea market.

Tsunami, bitchez!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:03 | 1930383 asteroids
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Too much credit, too much debt. No cash and a CDS bomb waiting to implode. Something very very bad is about to happen.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:06 | 1930401 EscapeKey
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They will bring "Happy Days" back on TV?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:13 | 1930463 Don Birnam
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Worse.

"Joanie Loves Chachi."

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:58 | 1930886 rufusbird
Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:10 | 1930443 xcehn
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This is as LOUD as it gets as a wakeup call.  You can either hear it as TPTB have everything under control and it will all be fine OR TPTB are so pathetically desperate that this is really the last clear chance before the SHTF.  I am reading this as a loud SOS and preparing for the obvious implications.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:32 | 1933070 Buck Johnson
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It sure did, and they are being extremely quiet about it also.  The don't do something like this unless a major bank is about ot go under.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:42 | 1930258 HoofHearted
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Societe General? BNP? Who you got in the Dead Pool? My fiat is on SocGen.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:48 | 1930273 hedgeless_horseman
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My guess is a German bank (DB?).  Maybe a warning shot for the krauts to get their prole's votes in order.

http://richardbrenneman.wordpress.com/2011/09/06/german-bank-boss-warns-of-bank-failure-epidemic/

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:50 | 1930311 Mactheknife
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Watch the EUR/USD today. If today's move were for real it would be at 1.36. If this drops below 1.3440...short the shit out of this move.  There just isn't enough juice behind this move.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:46 | 1930287 machineh
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Only Reggie Middleton knows for sure.

And he ain't talkin' until the nationalization is announced.

Meanwhile, the covert deposit runs continue ...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:52 | 1930310 GeneMarchbanks
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... and have probably spread to the UK. Lloyds & HSBC ain't in Sigma X top ten for nothin'.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:21 | 1930520 79
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Reggie is amazing. Only the other day I saw him stroll past my front door and shit a ton of skittles on my lawn.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:43 | 1930263 Ancona
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So, what's the half life of this one? Three.....maybe four days?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:50 | 1930314 CPL
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Eight central banks all printing in harmony to cover the unfunded liabilities that they've spent out of pensions?

 

The rest of our lives.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:43 | 1930264 Clorox Cowboy
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Don't even need to read the article...the answer is almost certainly "Yes".

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:20 | 1930514 Clorox Cowboy
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Really...I get a junk for assuming that some bank in Europe is close to failure???  Is that you, Draghi?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:44 | 1930271 GeneMarchbanks
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BNP, DB, SocGen take your pick.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:45 | 1930284 hugovanderbubble
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Commerzbank

Erste Bank

Credit Agricole

Banco Popular

MontePaschi Siena

Barclays

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:50 | 1930313 oogs66
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dexia?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:53 | 1930334 hugovanderbubble
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BNP+FORTIS ten times worst than multitimes  nationalized DEXIA

 

KBC is the next one in belgium free falling

 

In Germany the big problem are the Landesbanks balance sheets....

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:56 | 1930350 Carlyle Groupie
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The obvious failure was at the central banks.

Add another floor to the house of cards.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:11 | 1930449 Desert Irish
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West LB - currently still losing billions in their world-wide resort venture SNAFU. !9 major investments - 18 of them either went into recievership or were eventually sold for pennies. Writedowns still looming as the majority are still under recievership. The most recent was the JW Marriot Resort in Muskoka where they took a $105 million write-off in September. $80 million in hard costs with another $25 million in recievership fees - times that by 18.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:47 | 1930293 GeneMarchbanks
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All that aside, this is still a massive can kicking exercise. Just keep putting out fires with flamethrowers you cockgobblers.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:11 | 1930446 Dr. Richard Head
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This whole cumduggery is like going to the doctors after a cancer diagnosis and being offered Morphine.  Sure you will feel better, but in the end you die.  I guess we all want to feel better while we die.

The Federal Reserve is the Hospice of fiat cancer death.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:19 | 1930509 xcehn
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Sooo well put.  Fucking A.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:29 | 1930583 Dr. Richard Head
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May I suggest Bernanke-A.  Son of a Bernanke. Mother Bernanker.  Bernankehole.  Things of that nature.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 13:01 | 1930906 rufusbird
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Right now it looks like a fistfull of meth...lets crank this up on high and make the most of it...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 13:04 | 1930924 trav7777
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everyone must dead sometime

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:44 | 1930275 youngandhealthy
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Wow....this is pathetic....this is not more than rumours from some Banksters that are on the wrong side of the deal

GO TO JAIL, directly without passing....GO

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:46 | 1930288 junkyardjack
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Failing banks are fine, they should be flushed out of the system. Instead we are trapped with shit institutions pillaging the countries as they know the end game is near

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:46 | 1930289 Tsar Pointless
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I think more than one bank - European or other flavor - failed last night.

Witness the overnight actions and morning "great US economic news" as evidence.

BTW, I think it's funny that everybody and their sisters focus on the equity markets, yet forget about such things as bonds and commodities.

Isn't Ben's whole "QE" and "Twist" machinations meant to drive down US interest rates? Well, last night's coordinated Central Bank intervention has done nothing but drive US borrowing costs up, over 13 bps on the 30-year and over 10 bps on the 10-year.

And, I'm sure $120 brent and $110 WTI oil will be a great stocking-stuffer for Mr. and Mrs. Average Amerikkkan this Christmas. If not higher.

As will $4.00 gasoline. If not higher.

But equities will likely rocket to 1340 or so. That's all the top 0.5% cares about.

Enjoy the arm, the leg, the eye, the ear, and your first-born it will cost you to go over the river and through the woods to grandma's house this holiday season, dipshits!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:59 | 1930368 Miss Expectations
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Coal.  Coal would be a great stocking stuffer, provided you don't have a Dimplex 26 Electric Fireplace Insert that features a realistic flame image, inner glow logs and ember bed to create a realistic fire plus an adjustable interior light and flame speed control.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 13:05 | 1930927 trav7777
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the EPA would shoot your house with a Hellfire in order to prevent the CO2 emissions from your stove.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:50 | 1930290 The Deleuzian
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Obviously..........They're not just going to throw up their arms and say game over...The Banksters will fight longer than Zher's can short the market...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:49 | 1930811 ucsbcanuck
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Agreed - which is why I'm reducing my targets and looking to take money off the table. Right now the problem we have here at ZH is that the central banks are nervous - so any sign of trouble will be greeted with over-reaction.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:48 | 1930295 hugovanderbubble
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BNP is in default.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:51 | 1930325 GeneMarchbanks
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Frenchy is done... son. Can't nationalize(AAA gone) and can't recap(AAA gone).

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:20 | 1930499 lolmao500
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Well then Germany is done too.

Can't recap and can't nationalize.

Once Germany recap it's banks, it's worse than the US! (ask Kyle Bass)

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:26 | 1930300 czarangelus
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how does this actually happen? Can't a bank just leverage the fact that currencies are fiat to say, "Nuh uh! I have a trillionty dollars again!" I'm confused about why these entities seem so vulnerable; can anyone explain this concisely?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 13:04 | 1930922 Crisismode
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They can SAY whatever they want.

 

But once confidence is lost, they can't get it back.

 

As the cliche goes . . . talk is cheap (and won't buy you anything.)

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:48 | 1930301 DavidJ
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Why can't I borrow at scuh low rates?   I am much more credit worthy!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:49 | 1930304 f16hoser
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Liquididty Bitchez!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:49 | 1930306 misterc
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No banker left behind. All in for the banks. Moral obligation.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:51 | 1930317 chaartist
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They all failed long time ago

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:13 | 1930461 Dr. Richard Head
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Agreed.  This is a bad remake of Weekend at Benny's...I mean Bernies'.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:51 | 1930320 Robslob
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It always the "last to know" wealthy clans a tad more time to repatriate their holdings and buy gold?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:51 | 1930324 pufferfish
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Whats with the Euro Rally?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:55 | 1930344 MFL8240
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Its a better currency now with 5 banks printing dollars out of thin air. Make sense?  Not supose too, its just another fucking game by the master of deception Bernanke.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:52 | 1930326 hugovanderbubble
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Did anyone ever notice that BNP holds 27.000 Mn in Italian Bonds?

or that Credit Agricole has a black hole with EMPORIKI BANK of more than 19.000 Mn Euros?

 

HOW CAN FRANCE STILL BE AAA? MAGIC¡

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:53 | 1930333 MFL8240
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Sarkozy wearing out his knee pads

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:52 | 1930328 MFL8240
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Casino open for a few weeks till the next collapse.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:52 | 1930329 I need more cowbell
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This "Weekend at Bernanke's" movie is good; will there be sequels?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:54 | 1930332 jmcadg
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If anyone needs reminding of the truth. Relook at Eddie's reality check.

If you haven't seen it. YOU NEED TO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLxkyWhgaSQ

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:54 | 1930337 fiftybagger
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Silver up 3% Gold up 1.75%

 

Silver Update 11/29/11 USGS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSUG5JnBPoo

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:58 | 1930364 tradebot
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Dow up 400

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:54 | 1930339 ItsNotYouItsMe
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More socializing of loss so they can privatize the profits :)

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:56 | 1930346 youngman
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I think Magicians have a term for this...when you are watching the one hand..when the trick is preformed with the other...slight of hand I think...that is what we have today....everyone is agaw with all the green in the stock markets and commodities....while the banks are still in big big trouble....countries too....simple things for simple minds...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:57 | 1930353 vegas
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Or, they could have waited until the entire world was short equities, the Dow, Dax 30, S&P 500, etc. and then come in when everybody else wanted to cover. Unlike the 1970's and 1980's, when every CB got their collective ass handed to them when they intervened because their timing sucked, they appear to have learned something over the last 2 or 3 decades.

Granted, the premise that the system is broken and intervention won't heal systemic problems is valid, losing vast piles of money to fade them isn't so hot either. Come back at Dow 12,500 next week and let's start the up/down cycle all over again.

 

http://vegasxau.blogspot.com

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:57 | 1930354 surf0766
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makes sense.. if they just printed for the hell of it then I would really worry.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:57 | 1930360 Aunty Christ
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Anybody else think that BAC dangerously close to breaking the (5) $ last night might've led to this?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:17 | 1930490 OpenEyes
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Exactly what I was thinking.  When I left last evening, BAC had actually dipped just below $5 in after-hours and I thought to myself on my way home "gee, somebody will be doing something about that before the open tomorrow.   Once BAC dips below $5 all kinds of shit hits the fan"...  Needless to say, I didn't expect a globally coordinated bailout of the entire banking sector, but hey that's why I'm not one of the .1%, I don't think big enough.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 18:47 | 1936621 ucsbcanuck
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Same here - I was thinking no naked shorting once it hits $4, or no shorting of financials, or some shit like that. I had my targets set and ready to go, and when I saw the downgrades as well I thought - SHTF tomorrow for sure. I didn't see a globally coordinated bailout of the entire banking sector though.

But you're both right - BAC dropping below $5 might have set off all kinds of events. A stock under $5 can't be margined, meaning that many would have had to sell, and there might have been all kinds of calls etc. Plus, it would have been psychological - CNNMoney covered it for god's sake.

Here are the stories I've heard:

1) One or more large European banks were on the verge of failure

2) One or more large American banks would have failed as a consequence of (1)

3) BAC dropping below $5 would have set off all kinds of events 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:58 | 1930361 dcb
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notice how the knowledgeable experts always have the most self serving conclusions:

These are the type of actions that were being taken during the financial crisis in 2008.  Now most knowledgeable experts agree that not rescuing Lehman Brothers was a mistake.

OK you don't let lehman fail, then nobody really knows how shitty the system is, there aren't calls for reform, and nobody really looks into the leverage pieces of crap that are investment banks. The fact that the elites attempt to force feed us this buch of self serving logic that comes out of their asses. further the conclusion reached is "the tax payer should always bailout banks if you take it to it's logical extension. Anybody wonder why I think this entire thing ends in violence. Because these elite crap heads are sociopaths. This of course fits in with now americans' beiong held in detention without trial for the poor suckers/ sheep who don't back out these endless self serving elites. they are as bad as louis the 14th, the tsars.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 18:49 | 1936625 ucsbcanuck
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Agreed - we should not have let Lehman go to the wall, but there should have been a quid pro quo for bailing out Lehmans - caps on compensation or tighter regulation or stronger oversight.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:58 | 1930362 Lodger
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Breaking: FSA urging Banks to prepare for break up of Euro

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:05 | 1930395 GeneMarchbanks
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Link please.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:07 | 1930409 EscapeKey
Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:06 | 1930399 UGrev
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That's like saying to people on a plane which is about to crash... "brace for impact".. what fucking good will it do when you hit the ground at max velocity and become "pancaked" into the ground?   Oh, so I tucked my head between my legs and begged for mercy... the guy next to me, who happenst to be a priest, tells me everything is going to be alright and then BAM!!!! FUCK!!!! YOUR'RE DEAD!!! (Points to anyone who knows what movie that last bold statement is from). 

Then the world gets to see the aftermath on TV.. only this time, they'll be living it.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 13:37 | 1931096 KK Tipton
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The Crow.

 

 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:58 | 1930363 GMadScientist
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And when the dyke has eleven holes?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:15 | 1930476 Dr. Richard Head
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There is always a dick....I mean a Bernanke to stick in that hole.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:59 | 1930367 dcb
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maybe these large european banks should be wound down.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:01 | 1930372 DogSlime
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What's the point?

They saved a bank today so that it can fail tomorrow.

More taxpayer money propping up the financial elite.  More time for the elite to syphon more wealth from the peasantry.

How long can this go on?  When do we start putting these fuckers on trial and executing them?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:22 | 1930526 Iriestx
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Why are we waiting for a trial?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:01 | 1930373 sudzee
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The world is seeeing a slow bank run. Wages falling, prices going up in the real world an no reason to keep money in the bank as real interest rates are negative. Reserves need to be replaced by CB's and sovereigns. No reserves = leverage increase. The banks of the world have been nationalised. The latest swap of 750billion USD is equal to 250% of physical US dollars available the US residents. Are we seeing a temporary ( to be made permanent ) devaluation of the US$ by 60%. Anyone really know what a physical dollar is really worth?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:32 | 1930608 homme
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Anyone really know what a physical dollar is really worth?

Well.. Three US dollars are approximately equivilant to one single sheet of  AngelSoft Bathroom Tissue. So, at 300 sheets per roll, and a 4 roll pack cost of around $3.00 US, a single dollar note is worth about .25 wipes each. Of course this depends on how big your ass is and what you had for dinner.  

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:02 | 1930378 Temporalist
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Oh I finally get it.  Banks and countries that used too much debt were having problems and almost collapsed so they lent them more money.  I almost lost my car to the repo man and then I got another credit card offer in the mail. 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:02 | 1930379 NEOSERF
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this says it all

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws." Mayer Amschel Rothschild

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:08 | 1930422 UGrev
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The governments don't rule the world, Goldman Sachs runs the world -Alessio Rastani

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:02 | 1930380 LookingWithAmazement
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Always the same. Lots of pump and circumstance by all the doomers. "Hell freezes over. Banking panics. Total collapse. Greatest Depression. Banks, economy, political systems down. WW3"

And then there comes the sobering, coordinated central bankers' move which ends all well.

Last night apparently almost a total collapse of the French banking sector, starting with a certain bank. But simply collectively putting on the printing presses creates a mindblowing market orgasm - and no one talks or even thinks about that freaking bank anymore! Easy as that! We will never get rid of this addictive system. Told you sooooo.

Merry Christmas, out of our sorrows, and a happy "fractional money, enjoy your useless consumption" 2012.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:18 | 1930501 Hugh_Jorgan
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Every intervention is smaller and weaker. The response to a given level of intervention is more and more numbed. Soon they will run out of ways to kick the can, or we'll reach a point where the can will not move despite their best efforts. That time will likely come in the next 12 -24 months. Don't kid yourself, prepare if you haven't already...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:04 | 1930392 YesWeKahn
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Bernanke is the hero of humanity. Voe him to be the president of the globe. He has all the money we ever need to work for.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:07 | 1930400 Smiddywesson
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If a large bank fails in the woods, will it make any sound provided a central bank catches it? 

Apparently the answer is no

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:08 | 1930419 sabra1
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Lehman failure was planned to fail!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:10 | 1930438 YesWeKahn
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BTW, what rally is this? Too much money on the sideline?, economic renaissance? or short covering?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:10 | 1930444 Sziget
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Unicredit maybe? Or an Austrian one.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:11 | 1930451 The Count
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When I get elected President....

People that will have their asses kicked:

Paulson, Wagoneer, Corzine, Herb and Marion Sandler (World Savings), Von Rompuy...many more...


 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:16 | 1930478 Sheriff Douchen...
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This intervention was because they knew the unionized weather forecasters in the UK would be on strike today causing global chaos. Just another bullet in the festering corpse of the developed world.

http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/british-border-staff-teachers-weather-1...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:16 | 1930487 Odin
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Has anyone read the news flash that both the NY and Toronto stock exchanges have experienced technical errors this morning? Something is going down...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:48 | 1930768 Jessica6
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For the TSX there's an outage for stocks that begin with the letters M through Z.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/markets/markets-blog/trading-glitch-hits-tsx/article2254919/

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:19 | 1930505 onlooker
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Shadow banking. Shadow economy, Shadow Government, Shadow foreign policy, Shadow politics. Reality becomes a shadow.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:16 | 1931685 12ToothAssassin
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It all becomes like a copy, of a copy, of a copy...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:19 | 1930511 rambler6421
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Bank run bitchez!

 

libertarian86.blogspot.com

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:21 | 1930521 DeadFred
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"Furthermore, we now expect the stigmata associated with borrowing from the Fed to haunt each and every European bank as vigilantes will now use the weekly ECB update on borrowings from the Fed as a signal to hone in on this and that weak Italian and French, pardon, European bank."

Being rather jaded about such things I expect that the weekly ECB update will be changed so no one will be able to see what is going on. I'm surprised they haven't already decided that information on bank borrowings is "no longer relevant" and thus not worth reporting, but like I say, I'm just jaded.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:21 | 1930523 Quincy
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If the swaps decision was made on the 28th then it was awfully lucky that the swaps arrangement came into effect this morning when a bank was in danger of failing last night ; ) 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:33 | 1930610 lolmao500
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We are so lucky to have Bernanke, he sees the future!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:27 | 1930574 lolmao500
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When, not if, big banks fail in Europe, wouldn't that be bullish for treasuries?

Long dollar, short banks!

LOL

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:34 | 1930632 the grateful un...
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in the 1960's the counter statement to foreign policy was "America isn't the policeman to the world.." (of course we are) now 50 years later we can't be the lender of last resort to the global economy (and yes we are)

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:34 | 1930635 The Swedish Chef
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Alessio Rastani said that last week that The City gossip claimed a European big bank failure was imminent. Guess he was right...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:38 | 1930670 Vlad
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Need facts. Speculation is bad for business.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 12:46 | 1930764 gnomon
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Fiscally speaking, the patient has a gunshot hole in his heart that is gushing out blood with each contraction.  Monetarily speaking, the Fed has hooked the patient up to an IV the size of a garden hose.  

Students, what is the prognosis?

(One gold sovereign to the first student to precisely guess the time of death).

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 13:03 | 1930917 TheMerryPrankster
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A cautionary tale courtesy of the 1970's and an obscure english band called genesis:

Like father like son
Not flesh nor fish nor bone
A red rag hangs from an open mouth.
Alive at both ends but a little dead in the middle,
A-tumbling and a-bumbling he will go.
All the King's horses and all the King's men
Could never put a smile on that face.

He's a sly one, he's a shy one
Wouldn't you be too.
Scared to be left all on his own.
Hasn't a, hasn't a friend to play with, the Ugly Duckling
The pressure on, the bubble will burst before our eyes.
All the while in perfect time
His tears are falling on the ground
BUT IF YOU DON'T STAND UP YOU DON'T STAND A CHANCE.

Go a little faster now, you might get there in time.

Mirror mirror on the wall,
His heart was broken long before he ever came to you.
Stop your tears from falling,
The trail they leave is very clear for all to see at night
all to see at night.
THEY COME AT NIGHT!

In season, out of season
What's the difference when you don't know the reason.
In one hand bread, the other a stone.
The Hunter enters the forest.
All are not huntsmen who can blow the huntsman's horn
By the look of this one you've not got much to fear.

Here I am, I'm very fierce and frightening
Come to match my skill to yours.
Now listen here, listen to me, don't you run away now
I am a friend, I'd really like to play with you.
Making noises my little furry friend would make
I'll trick him, then I'll kick him into my sack.
You better watch out... You better watch out.

I've got you, I've got you, you'll never get away.

Walking home that night
The sack across my back, the sound of sobbing on my shoulder.
When suddenly it stopped,
I opened up the sack, all that I had
A pool of bubbles and tears - JUST A POOL OF TEARS.

All in all you are a very dying race
Placing trust upon a cruel world.
You never had the things you thought you should have had
And you'll not get them now,
And all the while in perfect time
Your tears are falling on the ground.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAyYU3HvgdU&feature=related

 

A pool of bubbles and tears - JUST A POOL OF TEARS. - really quite a description of our current dilema.....

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 13:19 | 1930994 slewie the pi-rat
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everything is secret!

ITA gdp, EFSF details, wha-appened here, there, and isn't it great nobody is in a recession, too?

oh, and that inflation is licked?

the europeon gamblers, er, inverstors must be especially happy

wunderbar, BiCheZ!

 

 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:00 | 1931201 tunckar
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Dexia?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:28 | 1931398 Archduke
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without corroborating facts this is just rumour mongering.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:34 | 1931442 navy62802
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In the end, it is inevitable that the only policy move available to central banks is to continually print. Every action they have taken in the past 3-4 years in response to crisis situations proves this to be true. Anyone who says PMs are in a bubble is a fool and does not acknowledge this very simple truth.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:35 | 1931448 AndrewCostello
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This is like a crumbling dam, no matter how many patches you put on it, you know it's going to come crashing down eventually.

 

Join the Revolution:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Gun-Owners-for-a-Gold-Standard/180803025347901

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:00 | 1931906 JohnFrodo
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A couple of months ago ZH called this and was called very bad names by Canadian MSM.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/30/canada-banks-exposed-default_n_1121102.html?ir=Canada+Business

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