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Did They Just Shut Down The Government AGAIN? Continuing Resolution Vote Fails

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Luckily the US has everything else in order, which is why it can afford to shut down the government... Again. Per Bloomberg:

  • HOUSE REJECTS BILL CONTAINING DISASTER RELIEF AID
  • REPUBLICAN DEFECTIONS LEAD TO DEFEAT OF BUDGET BILL
  • SPENDING BILL NEEDED TO FUND GOVERNMENT PAST SEPT. 30
  • REPUBLICANS OBJECTED TO OVERALL COST OF SPENDING BILL

Yep, looks like it: From Reuters:

A bill that would fund the U.S. government past Sept. 30 unexpectedly failed in the House of Representatives on Wednesday as dozens of Republicans broke with party leaders and Democrats objected to a cut to an electric-vehicle program. The measure failed by a vote of 195 to 230.

From CNN: House fails to pass continuing resolution

 In a major blow to the Republican leadership, the U.S. House on Wednesday defeated a temporary spending measure that would have required spending cuts to offset additional money for federal disaster relief efforts.

From Bloomberg: Republican Defections Defeat Bill Containing Disaster Relief Aid

The U.S. House rejected a bill that includes $3.65 billion in aid to victims of Hurricane Irene and other natural disasters, a setback for Republican leaders controlling the chamber.

Some Republican lawmakers objected to the measure’s overall cost and House Democrats opposed a spending cut in it, leading to the bill’s defeat.

The vote against the bill was 230-195.

 

The dispute raises the specter of a government shutdown because the disaster assistance is attached to a measure needed to fund the government until Nov. 18. The current fiscal year ends Sept. 30, and Congress is in recess next week.

 

And Bernanke hopes to pass fiscal stimulus in this climate?


 


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Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:51 | Link to Comment BrocilyBeef
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Now, please, NOBODY plug it back in to the outlet.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:53 | Link to Comment mynhair
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I'll second that!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:57 | Link to Comment knukles
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Here Hair!
Close that fucker down. 
Do a Belgium. 
Those people Do Not Need More Money To Spend, they Need to Spend Less.

God Bless the Sane!
(He takes care of small childern and drunks.  The rest must fend for themselves, meaning tough decisions at times like these.) 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:03 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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Shutting down the government would result in the biggest economic boom, surge in job creation, and period of real wealth creation that the nation has ever experienced in its history.

Shutting down the Federal Reserve, preferably with arrests of Banksters for Treason, would be icing on the cake.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:06 | Link to Comment ManufacturedOpinion
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Bread and Circuses.

Except that congress is the circus and they're giving all the bread to the Tribe.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:25 | Link to Comment espirit
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You mean they want to cut the program that hands China our electric car technology? Now the Chinese will have to work to steal it, aka "Los Alamos parlay".

Geez, just what is this world coming to?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:38 | Link to Comment Cruel Aid
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That wasn't theft really, It was the Clinton Fairness Doctrine of leveling the field. He put Richardson in charge of the nuclear braintrust... come on!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:42 | Link to Comment wisefool
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Dont forget Al Gore rounds out the brain trust with his bhudist spiritualness. You have to have spirit if you have the initiative to invent the internet, advocate cap and trade, and at the same time run HVAC on a private home that MTV cribs would love to showcase.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:50 | Link to Comment masterinchancery
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It would be clever sabotage on our part to give it to them.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 23:29 | Link to Comment Shredd the FED
Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:23 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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It would result in Mad Max until local strongmen arose, after that China in the 1920's with a dose of "The Postman" thrown in....

Hey, but I am all for arresting a few bankers for treason....

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:33 | Link to Comment captcorona
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Why Mad Max, my local and State Government are running just fine. What do we need the Feds for again? I like how Texas does it. The Congress meets once every 2 years for 6 weeks. That's almost 6 weeks to many, but a great place to start.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:59 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Lets see how a few brass hats act when they aren't "needed" anymore. Or when some state decides a pipeline should be paying higher tolls....

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:46 | Link to Comment Hobbleknee
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The government shut down under Reagan and everyone just went about their business.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:59 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Yeah, how many SS checks were missed? How long till the 46 million on Food stamps start to get "restless"...

 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:15 | Link to Comment LeBalance
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a f-instant

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:09 | Link to Comment NidStyles
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Who gives a fuck, they can find employment during all of that spare time they were using to collect welfare. If they get out of hand, just shoot the useless bastards.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:18 | Link to Comment LongBallsShortBrains
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Took the words out of my mouth.

Who gives a fuck

Don't shoot them. Let them sell chick lets like the Mexican girls at the border

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:39 | Link to Comment Henry Hub
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Actually they would probably find employment by puting a bullet in your brainpan to get your wallet. Be careful what you ask for!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 23:11 | Link to Comment johnnynaps
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True dat! There is no employment. I was at a job fair where there were no decent employers and I was BS'ing with a guy who was trying to come up with a scheme to rob people at the casino! And, for the gun toting morons on here, I don't think your attacker will announce his arrival! Good luck to all!

Thu, 09/22/2011 - 08:56 | Link to Comment Nascent_Variable
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If you were goofing off at a job fair and hanging out with this maniac, who was talking loudly about robbing and killing people, I think I may have figured out why you're having a hard time finding a job...

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 23:02 | Link to Comment trav7777
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employment WHERE?

Thu, 09/22/2011 - 05:04 | Link to Comment darkstar7646
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Then I suggest you start with people like me.

I had to finally come to the conclusion a couple years ago that, in fact, they were giving me a check so I didn't go off somebody in a rage.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:40 | Link to Comment nmewn
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"Yeah, how many SS checks were missed? How long till the 46 million on Food stamps start to get "restless"..."

So is it blackmail or extortion?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 22:21 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Yes... it is a just a plot to make *your* life a living hell...

Jeezus... just get over it and move on.

Thu, 09/22/2011 - 05:55 | Link to Comment nmewn
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"Jeezus... just get over it and move on."

lol...my life or nanny-statism? ;-)

Thu, 09/22/2011 - 14:52 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Your life.... SS and Food Stamps are the least of your problems with the gubbmint....

Thu, 09/22/2011 - 05:04 | Link to Comment darkstar7646
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Both.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 20:13 | Link to Comment Jumbotron
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Flakmeister...

"The Postman".....the book by David Brin or the movie with Kevin Costner?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 20:15 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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The movie..... yeah, I know, but there has be something else besides Mad Max

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:20 | Link to Comment LongBallsShortBrains
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Who needs a movie? This shit is as real as it gets!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 22:03 | Link to Comment Jumbotron
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Actually, Mad Max may be more realistic if Peak Oil plays out.

The Postman doesn't work because the Postal Service will implode long before the collapse.  :)

And Kevn Costner will be too busy growing gills and surfing Water World to bother with ressurrecting the Postal system.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 23:06 | Link to Comment trav7777
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hmm...US consumption at 1997 levels and the tards around here still think it's a monetary problem or that we can just dig up more oil lol.

We are IN the peak oil crisis.  It's as plain as day and "sustained global recession" is the precise verbiage I used to describe the outcome of it.

Welcome back nuclear lol

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 22:46 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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The plot hole was that if people were starting to evolve gills, the world was about to become a paradise again. Dry land, or no.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:42 | Link to Comment Chaffinch
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What? No 'Water World'?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:56 | Link to Comment Jumbotron
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Now that's some funny shit right there !

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 22:18 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Yeah.... Florida in about 100 years :)

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:40 | Link to Comment Yamaha
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Ah, yes! The old fashion SHIT AND FAN PROBLEM. I smell change in the air.....

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:16 | Link to Comment LeBalance
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Ja Wohl! Mein Fuhrer!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:13 | Link to Comment razorthin
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You've got that backward, Sunshine.  Shut down the Fed FIRST (and replace fiat with commodity money), and you've just castrated the government.  Two nuts with one stone.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:31 | Link to Comment espirit
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Not unless you castrate the military, nsa, cia, fbi, dhs, batfe, cbp, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.......

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 22:52 | Link to Comment Shredd the FED
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shut down the MASS MEDIA as well, because they continue to brainwash majority of the population... the current mass media is part (probably the most important) of the elite's agenda.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:45 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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I'd be psyched to see a complete gummit shutdown, but the 60 million or so Americans who are completely dependent on their "civil unrest" subsidies might be kinda pissed. 

Aw, hell, it's probably more than 60 million.

I don't think it'd make sense to call the outcome an economic boom.

Thu, 09/22/2011 - 05:05 | Link to Comment darkstar7646
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You'd best start shooting with me, then. People with nothing to lose lose _it_.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 23:01 | Link to Comment trav7777
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ROTFL...no it wouldn't.  The government and its debt IS the economy now. 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:12 | Link to Comment bogey4
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I'm sorry to say, shutting down the gov't doesn't do anything to cut spending.  Use yourself as a (not identical) analogy.  If you stop working, do the bills stop?  Ya still gotta pay the mortgage, the electricity, the grocery bills, etc. 

There may be some people who don't get paid with a shutdown, but they get backpay when the federal government reopens.  And whether you like or not, it will reopen.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:25 | Link to Comment CClarity
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We've got a broken Congress, we have a 7-3 Fed soon going to 5-5 therefore a broken Fed, a broken Presidency, a broken EU, and it is fair to say a broken consumptive model that gives capitalism a black eye, all being run through a broken financial system jimmied up on inflated books that don't mark assets to market.

Where to start?

A new super simple tax code - junk all the deducations and lower tax rates across the board.  A progressive flat tax would be nice. Elections not funded by organizations like unions, corporations, or PACs.  Media that investigates, researches and reports - not entertaining jingoism. Add to the list as you like.  There is much to be done.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:31 | Link to Comment sasebo
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Take money creation away from the banks & fed & give it to the "free market" (more or less). Why not? The "free market" does a great job of producing everything else. And will do much, much better when the guvmunt gets out of the way.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:45 | Link to Comment wisefool
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You forgot 501c "charities." in 1996 when Dole went against Clinton. The MSM demonized Nader for being a progressive and having a 1 Million Dollar net worth. Meanwhile Hillary was going to stay active with her law practice and Elizabeth dole was running the red cross with 1 million dollar yearly salary. Now that Hillary is SOS, Bill is running every 501c he can whether they wear a blue dress or not.

Rut Roe Ralph, you are too greedy.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:07 | Link to Comment CClarity
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They can keep the charities, just no deduction for contributions to it.  People are rewarded by doing good things.  Don't need a tax deduction for motivation, otherwise, it isn't "charity".  It has become so absurd.  Donate a painting to a museum and deduct that for years, meanwhile offsetting it's value against income in reduced taxes (due to the charitable contribution) doesn't pay for armed forces, police, education for children or elements that we do expect government to deliver via our taxes.  And those contibutors usually have a nice plaque placed for the public to gush over too.  

Same for churches and places of worship.  Absolutely, they should exist.  But they don't warrant special tax treatment.  Should pay taxes just like an athletic club, a bar, or a drycleaning shop.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 22:06 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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charities = secret subsidy

 

When profit margin growth is < tax savings from non-profit status you are misallocating too much wealth into charities.

 

 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:24 | Link to Comment BetterOffDead
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How about junking the corp income tax and implementing a flat tax on revenue? Would put a lot of tax accountants out of work, but along with a progressive flat personal income tax, would slash the IRS payroll in half. Then a new small business would be able to cut overhead dramatically. If we could only simplify healthcare, you could actually start a business in this country!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:56 | Link to Comment Nobody special
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We left 'progressive' when you added the word tax.  Nations were progressive when the control of the money supply wasn't in private hands.  Jefferson outright stated it - if the money supply were to move to banker hands, we would have the outcome we have now.  You want progressive, past leaders that supported the right to keep what you earn... they were the progressive ones.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:54 | Link to Comment Henry Hub
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Yah right, and the next day after the flat tax is implemented the army of lobbyists would start in and in six months we would have a flat tax with humongous tax loopholes for the big corporations and the rich and powerful.

Wake up bozo!!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 23:29 | Link to Comment BetterOffDead
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Well, you can't blame a guy for dreaming!! But seriously, I like the idea of the tax code not being longer than the constitution.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:24 | Link to Comment Nels
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 A progressive flat tax would be nice.

What in the world is a progressive flat tax?  It seems like an oxymoron to me.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:35 | Link to Comment Coast Watcher
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No deductions, just a flat tax on income, graduated according to income level. IOW, maybe 1 percent on all income under $40,000, 5 percent thereafter to 10 percent on all income over a million. And I would tax everyone, even if it's only $10 on a $10,000 income. That way everyone would have skin in the game.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:58 | Link to Comment CClarity
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Well said.  What I meant by the term and the way I envision it too.  Everybody pays something in.  All income is the same - whether earned with wages, investment produced with dividends, or something you buy for $1 and sell for $2.  All income.  All taxed at a rate that increases with wealth, but is almost universally lower than the rates paid by current taxpayers.  And bonus point - people can actually understand the formula, and plan accordingly.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 20:37 | Link to Comment pods
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Why have a tax on wages to begin with?  Nothing but slavery rewrapped.

And if we had your perfect system, when it eventually returns to the oligarchy that we have now, then what?

 

If debt money is issued with interest, we will always be slaves.

Why fight for a better prison?

Your silly idea is just a different flavor of Legalized Plunder.  

pods

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 20:44 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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Slaves don't get paid.

Serfs, on the other hand, only owed about 20% of their labor to TPTWere.

So we are like Slarfs, or something.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:16 | Link to Comment NidStyles
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Historically slaves have been paid in the past 5000 years. It wasn't until the invent of Chattel Slavery that slaves were outright owned and never compensated.

 

 

You'd think you'd use that GI bill instead staying an uneducated moron.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:52 | Link to Comment Rodent Freikorps
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Really?

When was Chattel slavery "invented?"

You know, the very first instance.

And do you think it is intellectually honest of you to take my present tense sentence and insult me because you can think of an exception sometime in the last 5000 years?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:21 | Link to Comment pods
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None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:45 | Link to Comment nmewn
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"All taxed at a rate that increases with wealth..."

Wealth or income?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 23:08 | Link to Comment trav7777
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that's not a flat tax, dipshit, it's a progressive tax and what we already have.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:26 | Link to Comment Nels
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dup

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:47 | Link to Comment prains
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dithch the dem/rep political system while you're at it, bought and paid for by the wanksters

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:46 | Link to Comment BlackholeDivestment
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...that ''outlet'', labor, unplugged? Did you buy sell or trade based on labor not showing up for a negative rate of return today? Sheeeit. Has Tiny Turbo Tim paid for the last blackout yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naSPSTZsHYA

Tis the Moon ...Bitchez http://bible.cc/john/9-4.htm

The capital of the Capitol is nothing but an expanding contraction ...of the black hole. The darkness remains charged by the strong delusion of labor, aborted in the belly of the Whore of Hussein, as she rides this corrupt pathetic self devouring market Beast ...Bitchez. http://bible.cc/revelation/12-4.htm

To Hell with this government (and all the nations which have consumed the wine of wrath in Chairsatan's BTFD Cup of Fornication) and it's Sodomite Department of Offense. It is time for it's own judgment call to come. It has aborted the Constitution, life, independence etc... The call of the fallen rules this pathetic country, and the ''change'' to come upon it, as with those whom have fallen to serve this country, is the second death. Fear not, sudden destruction shall come upon the land, which is now moved to be delivered. The shit storm is risen and the whirlwinds are already blowing. Only the blind in spirit do not realize the call of the ecclesia.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:18 | Link to Comment RSloane
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Maybe we could surround the outlet with land mines.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:52 | Link to Comment fyrebird
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Let me translate that for you:

Republicans object that their pork projects were not well represented in the budget.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:56 | Link to Comment Robslob
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Welcome new guy (fyrebird)...just so you know...at least from what I have observed...people on this board tend to think ALL politicians are full of shit.

 

So please...take your side picking shill ass somewhere else. (Grats on your 8th week)

 

That is all...Thank You

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:00 | Link to Comment wisefool
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The only politicians I care about are: Obama, Ron Paul, Huntsman, And Cain.

Every single one of them proffers the idea of sound money and/or a simpler tax code (which would force people to like the idea of sound money)

does this make me a side picking shill ass? 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:04 | Link to Comment Panafrican Funk...
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You know that old sales phrase "That guy could sell ice to an Eskimo!"  You = the Eskimo.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:08 | Link to Comment wisefool
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Thank you for acknowleging my polish heritage.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:03 | Link to Comment mt paul
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more walrus

less ice..

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:10 | Link to Comment fuu
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wtf Obama?!?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:16 | Link to Comment xtop23
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Yeah I was kinda wondering that myself.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:25 | Link to Comment nope-1004
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SS check comes from Odumber.  That's gotta be it.

And yes, ALL politicians are nothing but a bunch of self serving idiots.  Maxine Waters bringing up the race card while grilling Benocide on TARP recipients wins. 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:33 | Link to Comment wisefool
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Good little republicans send thier kids to LLM Tax School. Just Like Bachman.

Good little democrats send thier kids to community organizer school (a.k.a. constitutional law, a.k.a. interstate commerce clause)

In our two party gladitorial system, the only way we regain any liberties whatsoever is when one side accidentially does irreversable damage to the other side. Did any of you watch the teleprompters speach on monday? He said snarc: "the tax code for individuals, if printed out, is 5 foot high. Thats taller than my shorties! and they are smarter than warren buffet."

But seriously, what do you think the federal government does? There has not been a declaration of war since 1941. The civil rights acts were in 1964/5. NEA died in the 1970s. Everything since then is tax code/interstate commerce, and appointments to federal agencies.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:35 | Link to Comment knukles
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No, no fuu fuu.  His name is Barack, not WTF?!?

Or maybe we're confusing WTF with his uncle's cousin 3rd time removed from the darkest inner reaches of the South Bronx, Boston or whereeverthefuckit was that he's been hiding out in since the federalies sent him a deportation order before he go his SS number, driver's license, passport, unemployment checks and medicare card.  Is that the same one?

I'm confused

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:47 | Link to Comment fuu
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me too

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:56 | Link to Comment nmewn
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"I'm confused"

So's the AP... FACT CHECK: Are rich taxed less than secretaries?  

"Warren Buffett's secretary shouldn't pay a higher tax rate than Warren Buffett. There is no justification for it," Obama said as he announced his deficit-reduction plan this week. "It is wrong that in the United States of America, a teacher or a nurse or a construction worker who earns $50,000 should pay higher tax rates than somebody pulling in $50 million."

On average, the wealthiest people in America pay a lot more taxes than the middle class or the poor, according to private and government data. They pay at a higher rate, and as a group, they contribute a much larger share of the overall taxes collected by the federal government.

In his White House address on Monday, Obama called on Congress to increase taxes by $1.5 trillion as part of a 10-year deficit reduction package totaling more than $3 trillion. He proposed that Congress overhaul the tax code and impose what he called the "Buffett rule," named for the billionaire investor."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iP3lhS4ZQ-UhyUvFfUgdPCiu-jJA?docId=47a565563a294b2bad96544a7f0ddc1b

Look for the AP to show up on AttackWatch very soon...lol.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:03 | Link to Comment ReallySparky
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Robslob - Please be kind to the newbies, (unawakened, still learning), unless of course they are trolls. 

Welcome, fryebird.  Good luck here.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:24 | Link to Comment Robslob
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ReallySparky...Sorry, whenever stawcks go down hard I get Irritable Bowel Syndrome

Your dog is really fucking ugly...or is that your pic?

Grats on making it 2 years here...you must not be a side picking shill.

PS All politicians are fucking liars....so why choose a side?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:35 | Link to Comment tekhneek
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Yay. Everyone suck the new guys dick because he has an opinion.

People who align themselves with a "party" missed the boat a long ass time ago and probably still think their vote counts.

Share your opinion even if people disagree with you... and that's what it's all about (think Madden)

Peace love and harmony.

Welcome to ZH.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:17 | Link to Comment MikeNYC
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"Think and talk like the group and express only group-sanctioned thoughts, or get out?"

Yep. Typical ZH asshole group-think.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:18 | Link to Comment Absalon
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people on this board tend to think ALL politicians are full of shit

 

Group think is dangerous. 

 

Criticizing the Republicans does not mean that he is endorsing the Democrats.

 

Congress has just voted to shut down the whole government on October 1 and they are planning on taking next week off.  I think they should all be required to surrender their passports before leaving the building.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:28 | Link to Comment TwelfthVulture
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Why?  I think they should shut it down and go on a nice long vacation for like a year.  Keep the passports, let them go somewhere far far away.  Let some other third world shit hole deal with their self-serving bullshit.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:25 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Robslob... you are correct to a point, but the Hedge leans to the Repubs being slightly less full of shit... This site is becoming more and more political with the Repub-leaning tribe winning out to the detriment of all.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:34 | Link to Comment fishface
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a bit more or a bit less

shit is shit

I wouldn't eat any of it

Thu, 09/22/2011 - 07:13 | Link to Comment criticaster
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Here here. Tribal politics, with its careers paths, incentives, lobbyists, vested interests, back room dealing and power centralising ways is part of the problem. 'Left' and 'Right' have convinced us all that a productive life is keeping your head down, earning your wage, paying your mortgage (to line the pockets of the banks) and most importantly to tune into the cultural s*it that maintains the illusion and stops you from thinking or living.

May the scales be lifted!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:47 | Link to Comment Robslob
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For the love of God...please say it ain't so Joe!

Republicans steal money to give to the rich

Demcrats steal money to give to the poor

The point is...they both steal...which makes them twins.

Tired of paying taxes and tired of some asshole I don't know deciding where he wants to spend my money and the kicker...because they think they know better than us on where to spend our money?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 23:10 | Link to Comment trav7777
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Nein; they both steal money to give to the rich

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:31 | Link to Comment wisefool
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Junked you and here is why. The hedge leans twords liberty and freedom of speech. The current encumbant of the republican executive mantle is Sen. John McCain,AZ. If he calls the tea party folks little hobbits, I shudder at what he would call us.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:57 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Yes, it did at one time...

I follow this site closely enough to have seen a clear shift over the past 2 years.... The Dems for all their flaws easily gets twice the shit that the Repubs do. Their contribution to the current shitshow is on par with the Repubs. That isn't reflected.

I can almost count on one hand the number of times that people have lit into Phil Gramm here, the basest and most craven of the Wall St. thralls whereas Bwarnie Fwank gets pilloried every second thread.

I do not want to turn this in partisan pissing contest, never was my intent, but if the shoe fits wear it.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 20:18 | Link to Comment wisefool
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upped you and here is why. Phil Grahm used to be a young man. Young men challenge the system. But for some things, you see if it is a really good idea before you undo it, even if you meet no resistance. Glass Stegal was boxing gloves. It was a failsafe for housing and water as non securitable product.   when it went away, we ened up with, well, this. I would love for Grahmm, Hank, or Welsh to post here with the no gloves rule they agreed to for all of us. IBC peeps have british accents, so hopefull our american urban cowboy betters will step to and (re) adopt the circle fence.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 20:30 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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Bwarnie Fwank pilloried?

Ya just put my eyes out with that image...

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:38 | Link to Comment mr.5280
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No matter the leaning, I'd vote for Term Limits in a second..

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:42 | Link to Comment BrocilyBeef
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you are EXACTLY right mr. 5280... how would you suggest term limits? 1 trip to the buffet?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 20:33 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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I'd vote for the Vince Flynn style of Term Limits...

Thu, 09/22/2011 - 05:04 | Link to Comment Mitzibitzi
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That's the most useful way to limit government, IMHO. Limit every politician to a single term of no more than 4 years, codified by law. In cases where the established term is already shorter than that, fix the term at it's current length.

I'd also introduce a rule that, say, 50% of the candidates for each voting district must be something other than lawyers. Give people the choice to pick representatives that might actually know something about running a farm, business, military formation. Until sound money is established and firmly enshrined no member of the banking / money manipulation industry should be eligible to stand for election - it's a clear conflict of interest, until sound money is in place.

End completely directed campaign contributions. If people want to make a contribution to the cost of a campaign, it should all go to a central fund for the district and be disbursed equally to all candidates running. Level the playing field. If a candidate wants to spend more, they should foot the bill themselves. And the entire process should be thoroughly audited by an independent body, to ensure that backdoor contributions aren't taken and passed off as personal money. Anyone caught cheating that system should be imprisoned for no less than 5 years, as should whoever made the illicit 'contribution'. Both parties should also be permanently barred from engaging in ANY future political activity beyond their personal right to vote.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:58 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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Excellent wipe-up Robslob.  Dont forget to tell new guy (fyrebird)...people on this board also tend to hate the Fed and all connected pieces of human debris.  And we dont need contrarions to balance us out and we dont need som'in com'in in here all "blah blah blah Obama blah blah blah Ron Paul..."

If you get another chance that is.  And tell him I wished him luch too...8 weeks...wow.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:58 | Link to Comment BrocilyBeef
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Let me translate that for the rest of us:

Idiot say: Republicans object that their pork projects were not well represented in the budget.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:04 | Link to Comment BlankfeinDiamond
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I say nuts to the rest of the naysayers here.  Regardless of party cheerleading or not we can all use a good laugh and that was funny. 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:41 | Link to Comment Landrew
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Welcome! Fuck these assholes who think you can't express an opinion! Both parties have failed us and I agree with you.

Again welcome and grow a thick skin quickly, mine is measured in feet ha!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 20:36 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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grow a thick skin quickly, mine is measured in feet

Prolly don't wanna lead with that on yer match-dot-com profile...

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:54 | Link to Comment Gene Parmesan
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Good.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:55 | Link to Comment buzlightening
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Shut'em down and save we the people trillions in future plunder.  We the people have pitchfork ready jobs secured. 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:59 | Link to Comment knukles
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Rightie-O!

Without the Money/Treasure, there's nothing left to plunder.
Cut all the appropriations, shut the fucker down!

Starve the Beast!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:18 | Link to Comment strannick
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Carve the beast, the pork-barrelled bellied beast

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:21 | Link to Comment mick_richfield
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Stop all the clocks, cut off the telephone,
Prevent the dog from barking with a juicy bone,
Silence the pianos and with muffled drum
Bring out the coffin, let the mourners come.

Let aeroplanes circle moaning overhead
Scribbling on the sky the message:

"End the Fed!"

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:33 | Link to Comment Abitdodgie
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"Starve the beast" , well thats a saying coming from someone who still pays taxes

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:11 | Link to Comment pods
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Shhhh, here is a secret, the easy way to starve the beast is to NOT take out debt.  

Pass it on.

pods

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:03 | Link to Comment xtop23
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More games in D.C. 

No way. This is just fucking clownshoes man Im really getting tired of it.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:56 | Link to Comment economessed
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This is the best leadership money can buy?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:58 | Link to Comment BrocilyBeef
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apparently not my money.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:00 | Link to Comment knukles
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The best money leadership can loot?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:58 | Link to Comment blueridgeviews
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The best spending freeze ever! Shut DC down! This economy can't take anymore help from these politicians.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:58 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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Dems opposed the resolution because it didn't have enough disaster funding, while GOP broke away because it didn't cut enough.

Need to be done by Friday because they going on recess next week.

What a fucking gong show.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:01 | Link to Comment knukles
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Gong show greenie for lizzie
Gong show greenie for lizzie
Gong show greenie for lizzie

Magnifique!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:55 | Link to Comment Falcon15
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What we need is a huge gong and Gene Gene the Dancin' Machine...Maybe a little Chuck Barris...Then all of this farcical comedy we call government would make sense.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:59 | Link to Comment Outlaw Of The W...
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Burn dc to the ground and pour ash and salt on the charred remnants.  Then on to brussels and londonistan.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:00 | Link to Comment BrocilyBeef
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Sorry for the red, but I think we could grow crops there.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:01 | Link to Comment medicalstudent
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sarcophagus?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:26 | Link to Comment fuu
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It is far more toxic than Fukushima.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 23:37 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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No, it's far more fertile...they've heaped the BS to the moon in that crap-pile...

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:00 | Link to Comment caerus
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finally, some good news

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:01 | Link to Comment xtop23
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+1

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:00 | Link to Comment Out9922
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Time for them to head for the bunkers

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 20:54 | Link to Comment DeadFinks
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Betcha Barry, Benny & the bankers beat Boehner to the bunkers. 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:00 | Link to Comment Caviar Emptor
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I would like to run for Congress as a member of the Silly Party: we are againt anything that they are for. And we roll our eyes alot. And make faces behind anyone giving a speech. 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:25 | Link to Comment Phil Free
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Whatta maroon!  Yeah, that was taken earlier today.  You don't WAVE in diplo shots.  Whatta' dip. And who does he think he's waving to?  "Hi, mom!"

 

I'd esp. be unhappy if I was the diplomat whose face got wiped ..

 

'Bob, where are you in this photo?'

'I'm right in the middle -- the one that -- yeah.  You betcha'.  Right there ...'

 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:38 | Link to Comment knukles
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Me!  I get dibs!  I wanna be in the center, I get the center, I get the center!  Me me me me me me me .......

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 22:54 | Link to Comment IQ 145
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There's a picture of him bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia somewhere; That did it for me. Nobody in the State Dept. to tell him that American Presidents don't bow to Kings? It really is un-believable. The picture today seems to be saying; "look I have a right hand".  I suppose we should consider ourselves lucky he didn't do a V for victory;  as in "winning the future". Groan.

Thu, 09/22/2011 - 02:11 | Link to Comment Anonsters
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Yeah, no bowing. Only kissing's allowed, right?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:12 | Link to Comment InconvenientCou...
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I'd like to form the "guns --not governance" party.

Nothing more satisfying than a hot steaming pile of collateral damage.

 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:03 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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@CE.... on the hustings with Edmund are we?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:01 | Link to Comment Drag Racer
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damn, someone will get bombed for this.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:02 | Link to Comment Lord Welligton
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All the USA needs now is Ouzo and goats cheese.

Look at what the Central Bankers have done to you.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:05 | Link to Comment Panafrican Funk...
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The plebs demand olives as well!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:09 | Link to Comment Lord Welligton
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Given.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:06 | Link to Comment Zymurguy
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They should stop attaching all the bullshit to important legislation.  Stop playing the back scratching crap and cut the fat (pork) from the legislation and lets get some up and down votes on the issues that matter.  I hate the way our government operates... so completely inefficient.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:10 | Link to Comment Lord Welligton
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And everyone here believes you are sincere in that statement.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:09 | Link to Comment Mallenet
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To 'Govern' requires 'Governance' - its a language thing!

What you guys have is masterbation: the more I rub it the better it gets for me!

If only you knew how stupid you look with that little thing in your hand!

Good luck to the princes of Mickey-Mouse country: the rest of the world likes rodants for breakfast!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:09 | Link to Comment madddmaxxx
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I'm hoping the None Of The Above Party is running next election

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:10 | Link to Comment ThisIsBob
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Oh, no!  No more $16.00 muffins?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:17 | Link to Comment I Got Worms
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Those must've come from Starbucks.

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