Did They Just Shut Down The Government AGAIN? Continuing Resolution Vote Fails

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Luckily the US has everything else in order, which is why it can afford to shut down the government... Again. Per Bloomberg:

  • HOUSE REJECTS BILL CONTAINING DISASTER RELIEF AID
  • REPUBLICAN DEFECTIONS LEAD TO DEFEAT OF BUDGET BILL
  • SPENDING BILL NEEDED TO FUND GOVERNMENT PAST SEPT. 30
  • REPUBLICANS OBJECTED TO OVERALL COST OF SPENDING BILL

Yep, looks like it: From Reuters:

A bill that would fund the U.S. government past Sept. 30 unexpectedly failed in the House of Representatives on Wednesday as dozens of Republicans broke with party leaders and Democrats objected to a cut to an electric-vehicle program. The measure failed by a vote of 195 to 230.

From CNN: House fails to pass continuing resolution

 In a major blow to the Republican leadership, the U.S. House on Wednesday defeated a temporary spending measure that would have required spending cuts to offset additional money for federal disaster relief efforts.

From Bloomberg: Republican Defections Defeat Bill Containing Disaster Relief Aid

The U.S. House rejected a bill that includes $3.65 billion in aid to victims of Hurricane Irene and other natural disasters, a setback for Republican leaders controlling the chamber.

Some Republican lawmakers objected to the measure’s overall cost and House Democrats opposed a spending cut in it, leading to the bill’s defeat.

The vote against the bill was 230-195.

 

The dispute raises the specter of a government shutdown because the disaster assistance is attached to a measure needed to fund the government until Nov. 18. The current fiscal year ends Sept. 30, and Congress is in recess next week.

 

And Bernanke hopes to pass fiscal stimulus in this climate?


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Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:51 | 1694668 BrocilyBeef
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Now, please, NOBODY plug it back in to the outlet.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:53 | 1694682 mynhair
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I'll second that!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:57 | 1694703 knukles
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Here Hair!
Close that fucker down. 
Do a Belgium. 
Those people Do Not Need More Money To Spend, they Need to Spend Less.

God Bless the Sane!
(He takes care of small childern and drunks.  The rest must fend for themselves, meaning tough decisions at times like these.) 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:03 | 1694738 TruthInSunshine
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Shutting down the government would result in the biggest economic boom, surge in job creation, and period of real wealth creation that the nation has ever experienced in its history.

Shutting down the Federal Reserve, preferably with arrests of Banksters for Treason, would be icing on the cake.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:06 | 1694754 ManufacturedOpinion
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Bread and Circuses.

Except that congress is the circus and they're giving all the bread to the Tribe.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:24 | 1694831 flacon
Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:25 | 1695002 espirit
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You mean they want to cut the program that hands China our electric car technology? Now the Chinese will have to work to steal it, aka "Los Alamos parlay".

Geez, just what is this world coming to?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:38 | 1695037 Cruel Aid
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That wasn't theft really, It was the Clinton Fairness Doctrine of leveling the field. He put Richardson in charge of the nuclear braintrust... come on!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:42 | 1695053 wisefool
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Dont forget Al Gore rounds out the brain trust with his bhudist spiritualness. You have to have spirit if you have the initiative to invent the internet, advocate cap and trade, and at the same time run HVAC on a private home that MTV cribs would love to showcase.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:50 | 1695071 masterinchancery
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It would be clever sabotage on our part to give it to them.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 23:29 | 1695592 Shredd the FED
Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:23 | 1694824 Flakmeister
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It would result in Mad Max until local strongmen arose, after that China in the 1920's with a dose of "The Postman" thrown in....

Hey, but I am all for arresting a few bankers for treason....

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:33 | 1694856 captcorona
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Why Mad Max, my local and State Government are running just fine. What do we need the Feds for again? I like how Texas does it. The Congress meets once every 2 years for 6 weeks. That's almost 6 weeks to many, but a great place to start.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:59 | 1695097 Flakmeister
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Lets see how a few brass hats act when they aren't "needed" anymore. Or when some state decides a pipeline should be paying higher tolls....

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:46 | 1694898 Hobbleknee
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The government shut down under Reagan and everyone just went about their business.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:59 | 1694945 Flakmeister
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Yeah, how many SS checks were missed? How long till the 46 million on Food stamps start to get "restless"...

 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:15 | 1694981 LeBalance
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a f-instant

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:09 | 1695296 NidStyles
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Who gives a fuck, they can find employment during all of that spare time they were using to collect welfare. If they get out of hand, just shoot the useless bastards.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:18 | 1695318 LongBallsShortBrains
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Took the words out of my mouth.

Who gives a fuck

Don't shoot them. Let them sell chick lets like the Mexican girls at the border

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:39 | 1695359 Henry Hub
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Actually they would probably find employment by puting a bullet in your brainpan to get your wallet. Be careful what you ask for!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 23:11 | 1695559 johnnynaps
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True dat! There is no employment. I was at a job fair where there were no decent employers and I was BS'ing with a guy who was trying to come up with a scheme to rob people at the casino! And, for the gun toting morons on here, I don't think your attacker will announce his arrival! Good luck to all!

Thu, 09/22/2011 - 08:56 | 1696438 Nascent_Variable
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If you were goofing off at a job fair and hanging out with this maniac, who was talking loudly about robbing and killing people, I think I may have figured out why you're having a hard time finding a job...

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 23:02 | 1695540 trav7777
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employment WHERE?

Thu, 09/22/2011 - 05:04 | 1696031 darkstar7646
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Then I suggest you start with people like me.

I had to finally come to the conclusion a couple years ago that, in fact, they were giving me a check so I didn't go off somebody in a rage.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:40 | 1695362 nmewn
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"Yeah, how many SS checks were missed? How long till the 46 million on Food stamps start to get "restless"..."

So is it blackmail or extortion?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 22:21 | 1695465 Flakmeister
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Yes... it is a just a plot to make *your* life a living hell...

Jeezus... just get over it and move on.

Thu, 09/22/2011 - 05:55 | 1696063 nmewn
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"Jeezus... just get over it and move on."

lol...my life or nanny-statism? ;-)

Thu, 09/22/2011 - 14:52 | 1698194 Flakmeister
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Your life.... SS and Food Stamps are the least of your problems with the gubbmint....

Thu, 09/22/2011 - 05:04 | 1696033 darkstar7646
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Both.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 20:13 | 1695139 Jumbotron
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Flakmeister...

"The Postman".....the book by David Brin or the movie with Kevin Costner?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 20:15 | 1695150 Flakmeister
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The movie..... yeah, I know, but there has be something else besides Mad Max

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:20 | 1695324 LongBallsShortBrains
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Who needs a movie? This shit is as real as it gets!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 22:03 | 1695417 Jumbotron
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Actually, Mad Max may be more realistic if Peak Oil plays out.

The Postman doesn't work because the Postal Service will implode long before the collapse.  :)

And Kevn Costner will be too busy growing gills and surfing Water World to bother with ressurrecting the Postal system.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 23:06 | 1695549 trav7777
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hmm...US consumption at 1997 levels and the tards around here still think it's a monetary problem or that we can just dig up more oil lol.

We are IN the peak oil crisis.  It's as plain as day and "sustained global recession" is the precise verbiage I used to describe the outcome of it.

Welcome back nuclear lol

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 22:46 | 1695512 Rodent Freikorps
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The plot hole was that if people were starting to evolve gills, the world was about to become a paradise again. Dry land, or no.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:42 | 1695373 Chaffinch
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What? No 'Water World'?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:56 | 1695399 Jumbotron
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Now that's some funny shit right there !

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 22:18 | 1695454 Flakmeister
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Yeah.... Florida in about 100 years :)

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:40 | 1694877 Yamaha
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Ah, yes! The old fashion SHIT AND FAN PROBLEM. I smell change in the air.....

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:16 | 1694985 LeBalance
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Ja Wohl! Mein Fuhrer!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:13 | 1694971 razorthin
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You've got that backward, Sunshine.  Shut down the Fed FIRST (and replace fiat with commodity money), and you've just castrated the government.  Two nuts with one stone.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:31 | 1695019 espirit
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Not unless you castrate the military, nsa, cia, fbi, dhs, batfe, cbp, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.......

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 22:52 | 1695523 Shredd the FED
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shut down the MASS MEDIA as well, because they continue to brainwash majority of the population... the current mass media is part (probably the most important) of the elite's agenda.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:45 | 1695057 blunderdog
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I'd be psyched to see a complete gummit shutdown, but the 60 million or so Americans who are completely dependent on their "civil unrest" subsidies might be kinda pissed. 

Aw, hell, it's probably more than 60 million.

I don't think it'd make sense to call the outcome an economic boom.

Thu, 09/22/2011 - 05:05 | 1696034 darkstar7646
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You'd best start shooting with me, then. People with nothing to lose lose _it_.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 23:01 | 1695539 trav7777
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ROTFL...no it wouldn't.  The government and its debt IS the economy now. 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:12 | 1694781 bogey4
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I'm sorry to say, shutting down the gov't doesn't do anything to cut spending.  Use yourself as a (not identical) analogy.  If you stop working, do the bills stop?  Ya still gotta pay the mortgage, the electricity, the grocery bills, etc. 

There may be some people who don't get paid with a shutdown, but they get backpay when the federal government reopens.  And whether you like or not, it will reopen.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:25 | 1694828 CClarity
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We've got a broken Congress, we have a 7-3 Fed soon going to 5-5 therefore a broken Fed, a broken Presidency, a broken EU, and it is fair to say a broken consumptive model that gives capitalism a black eye, all being run through a broken financial system jimmied up on inflated books that don't mark assets to market.

Where to start?

A new super simple tax code - junk all the deducations and lower tax rates across the board.  A progressive flat tax would be nice. Elections not funded by organizations like unions, corporations, or PACs.  Media that investigates, researches and reports - not entertaining jingoism. Add to the list as you like.  There is much to be done.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:31 | 1694847 sasebo
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Take money creation away from the banks & fed & give it to the "free market" (more or less). Why not? The "free market" does a great job of producing everything else. And will do much, much better when the guvmunt gets out of the way.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:45 | 1694879 wisefool
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You forgot 501c "charities." in 1996 when Dole went against Clinton. The MSM demonized Nader for being a progressive and having a 1 Million Dollar net worth. Meanwhile Hillary was going to stay active with her law practice and Elizabeth dole was running the red cross with 1 million dollar yearly salary. Now that Hillary is SOS, Bill is running every 501c he can whether they wear a blue dress or not.

Rut Roe Ralph, you are too greedy.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:07 | 1694950 CClarity
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They can keep the charities, just no deduction for contributions to it.  People are rewarded by doing good things.  Don't need a tax deduction for motivation, otherwise, it isn't "charity".  It has become so absurd.  Donate a painting to a museum and deduct that for years, meanwhile offsetting it's value against income in reduced taxes (due to the charitable contribution) doesn't pay for armed forces, police, education for children or elements that we do expect government to deliver via our taxes.  And those contibutors usually have a nice plaque placed for the public to gush over too.  

Same for churches and places of worship.  Absolutely, they should exist.  But they don't warrant special tax treatment.  Should pay taxes just like an athletic club, a bar, or a drycleaning shop.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 22:06 | 1695424 AldousHuxley
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charities = secret subsidy

 

When profit margin growth is < tax savings from non-profit status you are misallocating too much wealth into charities.

 

 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:24 | 1694997 BetterOffDead
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How about junking the corp income tax and implementing a flat tax on revenue? Would put a lot of tax accountants out of work, but along with a progressive flat personal income tax, would slash the IRS payroll in half. Then a new small business would be able to cut overhead dramatically. If we could only simplify healthcare, you could actually start a business in this country!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:56 | 1695084 Nobody special
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We left 'progressive' when you added the word tax.  Nations were progressive when the control of the money supply wasn't in private hands.  Jefferson outright stated it - if the money supply were to move to banker hands, we would have the outcome we have now.  You want progressive, past leaders that supported the right to keep what you earn... they were the progressive ones.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:54 | 1695395 Henry Hub
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Yah right, and the next day after the flat tax is implemented the army of lobbyists would start in and in six months we would have a flat tax with humongous tax loopholes for the big corporations and the rich and powerful.

Wake up bozo!!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 23:29 | 1695591 BetterOffDead
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Well, you can't blame a guy for dreaming!! But seriously, I like the idea of the tax code not being longer than the constitution.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:24 | 1694999 Nels
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 A progressive flat tax would be nice.

What in the world is a progressive flat tax?  It seems like an oxymoron to me.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:35 | 1695034 Coast Watcher
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No deductions, just a flat tax on income, graduated according to income level. IOW, maybe 1 percent on all income under $40,000, 5 percent thereafter to 10 percent on all income over a million. And I would tax everyone, even if it's only $10 on a $10,000 income. That way everyone would have skin in the game.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:58 | 1695093 CClarity
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Well said.  What I meant by the term and the way I envision it too.  Everybody pays something in.  All income is the same - whether earned with wages, investment produced with dividends, or something you buy for $1 and sell for $2.  All income.  All taxed at a rate that increases with wealth, but is almost universally lower than the rates paid by current taxpayers.  And bonus point - people can actually understand the formula, and plan accordingly.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 20:37 | 1695198 pods
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Why have a tax on wages to begin with?  Nothing but slavery rewrapped.

And if we had your perfect system, when it eventually returns to the oligarchy that we have now, then what?

 

If debt money is issued with interest, we will always be slaves.

Why fight for a better prison?

Your silly idea is just a different flavor of Legalized Plunder.  

pods

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 20:44 | 1695229 Rodent Freikorps
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Slaves don't get paid.

Serfs, on the other hand, only owed about 20% of their labor to TPTWere.

So we are like Slarfs, or something.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:16 | 1695311 NidStyles
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Historically slaves have been paid in the past 5000 years. It wasn't until the invent of Chattel Slavery that slaves were outright owned and never compensated.

 

 

You'd think you'd use that GI bill instead staying an uneducated moron.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:52 | 1695372 Rodent Freikorps
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Really?

When was Chattel slavery "invented?"

You know, the very first instance.

And do you think it is intellectually honest of you to take my present tense sentence and insult me because you can think of an exception sometime in the last 5000 years?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:21 | 1695327 pods
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None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:45 | 1695378 nmewn
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"All taxed at a rate that increases with wealth..."

Wealth or income?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 23:08 | 1695552 trav7777
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that's not a flat tax, dipshit, it's a progressive tax and what we already have.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:26 | 1695000 Nels
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dup

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:47 | 1695382 prains
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dithch the dem/rep political system while you're at it, bought and paid for by the wanksters

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:46 | 1694895 BlackholeDivestment
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...that ''outlet'', labor, unplugged? Did you buy sell or trade based on labor not showing up for a negative rate of return today? Sheeeit. Has Tiny Turbo Tim paid for the last blackout yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naSPSTZsHYA

Tis the Moon ...Bitchez http://bible.cc/john/9-4.htm

The capital of the Capitol is nothing but an expanding contraction ...of the black hole. The darkness remains charged by the strong delusion of labor, aborted in the belly of the Whore of Hussein, as she rides this corrupt pathetic self devouring market Beast ...Bitchez. http://bible.cc/revelation/12-4.htm

To Hell with this government (and all the nations which have consumed the wine of wrath in Chairsatan's BTFD Cup of Fornication) and it's Sodomite Department of Offense. It is time for it's own judgment call to come. It has aborted the Constitution, life, independence etc... The call of the fallen rules this pathetic country, and the ''change'' to come upon it, as with those whom have fallen to serve this country, is the second death. Fear not, sudden destruction shall come upon the land, which is now moved to be delivered. The shit storm is risen and the whirlwinds are already blowing. Only the blind in spirit do not realize the call of the ecclesia.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:18 | 1694988 RSloane
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Maybe we could surround the outlet with land mines.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:52 | 1694676 fyrebird
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Let me translate that for you:

Republicans object that their pork projects were not well represented in the budget.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:56 | 1694697 Robslob
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Welcome new guy (fyrebird)...just so you know...at least from what I have observed...people on this board tend to think ALL politicians are full of shit.

 

So please...take your side picking shill ass somewhere else. (Grats on your 8th week)

 

That is all...Thank You

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:00 | 1694728 wisefool
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The only politicians I care about are: Obama, Ron Paul, Huntsman, And Cain.

Every single one of them proffers the idea of sound money and/or a simpler tax code (which would force people to like the idea of sound money)

does this make me a side picking shill ass? 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:04 | 1694741 Panafrican Funk...
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You know that old sales phrase "That guy could sell ice to an Eskimo!"  You = the Eskimo.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:08 | 1694759 wisefool
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Thank you for acknowleging my polish heritage.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:03 | 1695282 mt paul
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more walrus

less ice..

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:10 | 1694769 fuu
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wtf Obama?!?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:16 | 1694800 xtop23
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Yeah I was kinda wondering that myself.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:25 | 1694832 nope-1004
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SS check comes from Odumber.  That's gotta be it.

And yes, ALL politicians are nothing but a bunch of self serving idiots.  Maxine Waters bringing up the race card while grilling Benocide on TARP recipients wins. 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:33 | 1694854 wisefool
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Good little republicans send thier kids to LLM Tax School. Just Like Bachman.

Good little democrats send thier kids to community organizer school (a.k.a. constitutional law, a.k.a. interstate commerce clause)

In our two party gladitorial system, the only way we regain any liberties whatsoever is when one side accidentially does irreversable damage to the other side. Did any of you watch the teleprompters speach on monday? He said snarc: "the tax code for individuals, if printed out, is 5 foot high. Thats taller than my shorties! and they are smarter than warren buffet."

But seriously, what do you think the federal government does? There has not been a declaration of war since 1941. The civil rights acts were in 1964/5. NEA died in the 1970s. Everything since then is tax code/interstate commerce, and appointments to federal agencies.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:35 | 1695023 knukles
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No, no fuu fuu.  His name is Barack, not WTF?!?

Or maybe we're confusing WTF with his uncle's cousin 3rd time removed from the darkest inner reaches of the South Bronx, Boston or whereeverthefuckit was that he's been hiding out in since the federalies sent him a deportation order before he go his SS number, driver's license, passport, unemployment checks and medicare card.  Is that the same one?

I'm confused

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:47 | 1695063 fuu
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me too

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 21:56 | 1695406 nmewn
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"I'm confused"

So's the AP... FACT CHECK: Are rich taxed less than secretaries?  

"Warren Buffett's secretary shouldn't pay a higher tax rate than Warren Buffett. There is no justification for it," Obama said as he announced his deficit-reduction plan this week. "It is wrong that in the United States of America, a teacher or a nurse or a construction worker who earns $50,000 should pay higher tax rates than somebody pulling in $50 million."

On average, the wealthiest people in America pay a lot more taxes than the middle class or the poor, according to private and government data. They pay at a higher rate, and as a group, they contribute a much larger share of the overall taxes collected by the federal government.

In his White House address on Monday, Obama called on Congress to increase taxes by $1.5 trillion as part of a 10-year deficit reduction package totaling more than $3 trillion. He proposed that Congress overhaul the tax code and impose what he called the "Buffett rule," named for the billionaire investor."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iP3lhS4ZQ-UhyUvFfUgdPCiu-jJA?docId=47a565563a294b2bad96544a7f0ddc1b

Look for the AP to show up on AttackWatch very soon...lol.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:03 | 1694739 ReallySparky
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Robslob - Please be kind to the newbies, (unawakened, still learning), unless of course they are trolls. 

Welcome, fryebird.  Good luck here.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:24 | 1694829 Robslob
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ReallySparky...Sorry, whenever stawcks go down hard I get Irritable Bowel Syndrome

Your dog is really fucking ugly...or is that your pic?

Grats on making it 2 years here...you must not be a side picking shill.

PS All politicians are fucking liars....so why choose a side?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:35 | 1694863 tekhneek
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Yay. Everyone suck the new guys dick because he has an opinion.

People who align themselves with a "party" missed the boat a long ass time ago and probably still think their vote counts.

Share your opinion even if people disagree with you... and that's what it's all about (think Madden)

Peace love and harmony.

Welcome to ZH.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:17 | 1694802 MikeNYC
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"Think and talk like the group and express only group-sanctioned thoughts, or get out?"

Yep. Typical ZH asshole group-think.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 18:18 | 1694808 Absalon
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people on this board tend to think ALL politicians are full of shit

 

Group think is dangerous. 

 

Criticizing the Republicans does not mean that he is endorsing the Democrats.

 

Congress has just voted to shut down the whole government on October 1 and they are planning on taking next week off.  I think they should all be required to surrender their passports before leaving the building.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 19:28 | 1695013 TwelfthVulture
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Why?  I think they should shut it down and go on a nice long vacation for like a year.  Keep the passports, let them go somewhere far far away.  Let some other third world shit hole deal with their self-serving bullshit.

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