As Disenchantment With Idiocy Surges, Ron Paul Support Soars
Every legacy media and central planner's worst nightmare is slowly coming true: as the broader field of GOP candidates is rapidly dropping like US secret drones blowing up nuclear power plants in Iran, due to general idiocy, incompetence, too much baggage-ness or general reverse American Idol syndrome where Americans get tired with any given "leader" only to vote them out of the primary the following week, the one clear winner is becoming Ron Paul, who according to Public Policy Polling has seen his support soar in the past week and is now neck and neck with presidential candidate du week, Newt Gingrich. From the PPP: "There has been some major movement in the Republican Presidential race in Iowa over the last week, with what was a 9 point lead for Newt Gingrich now all the way down to a single point. Gingrich is at 22% to 21% for Paul with Mitt Romney at 16%, Michele Bachmann at 11%, Rick Perry at 9%, Rick Santorum at 8%, Jon Huntsman at 5%, and Gary Johnson at 1%."
More on this news which will be welcomed by supporters of the only person in the GOP crowd who actually deserves to be president:
Paul meanwhile has seen a big increase in his popularity from +14 (52/38) to +30 (61/31). There are a lot of parallels between Paul's strength in Iowa and Barack Obama's in 2008- he's doing well with new voters, young voters, and non-Republican voters:
-59% of likely voters participated in the 2008 Republican caucus and they support Gingrich 26-18. But among the 41% of likely voters who are 'new' for 2012 Paul leads Gingrich 25-17 with Romney at 16%. Paul is doing a good job of bringing out folks who haven't done this before.
-He's also very strong with young voters. Among likely caucus goers under 45 Paul is up 30-16 on Gingrich. With those over 45, Gingrich leads him 26-15 with Romney at 17%.
-Among Republicans Gingrich leads Paul 25-17. But with voters who identify as Democrats or independents, 21% of the electorate in a year with no action on the Democratic side, Paul leads Gingrich 34-14 with Romney at 17%.
Young voters, independents, and folks who haven't voted in caucuses before is an unusual coalition for a Republican candidate...the big question is whether these folks will really come out and vote...if they do, we could be in for a big upset.
And if Paul can sustain the surge in momentum from Iowa, he may we have a chance to take New Hampshire where Romney still has a modest lead according to Rasmussen:
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney remains on top of the New Hampshire Republican Primary field, but the race for second place between Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul is a lot closer than it was just two weeks ago.
The latest Rasmussen Reports statewide telephone survey of Likely Republican Primary Voters shows Romney with 33% of the vote, followed by Gingrich at 22%. Paul now picks up 18% support, his best showing in the Granite State so far. Former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman comes in fourth with 10% of the vote, with no other candidate reaching double digits. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
Support for Romney, Gingrich and Huntsman is little changed from the previous survey, but Paul has now closed the 10-point gap between him and Gingrich to just four points.
Luckily, there still is more than enough opportunity for the other candidates' broad stupidity to shine through, which will benefit only one of the candidates. Furthermore, should the global economy collapse and the Fed proceed with doing the only thing he knows how to do, and as a result focus the broader population's attention even more on monetary policy, there will be only one winner: the one who has made the Fed his nemesis not only during this presidential election cycle, but his entire career.
We wish him all the best.
h/t John
(71 votes)
»
- Login or register to post comments
- 34741 reads
- Printer-friendly version
- Send to friend
Ron Paul makes sense!
Bitchez!
Scotch anyone? - ~ http://hedge.ly/gFWVSm
but the gobbel's propaganda ministry on the airwaves says ron paul does not matter. the 2 affair fat ass is in the lead because he asked god to forgive him. what a role model!
If Paul would just fuck some whores and be pro-war he could win.
Terry Duffy drops a bomb... LOL! He indicates his employee says that MF Global employee knew about a loan from MF Global and that Corzine was aware of the loans!
Watch here:
http://www.c-span.org/Events/Senate-Looks-into-MF-Global-Bankruptcy/10737426222/
wow. this may be the first productive thing to come out of a congressional hearing. ever.
Un Fucking Beleivable ...
RP Kicking Everyones Republican Butt, While the Fucking Mainstream Media Talks more about Regis Philbin than Ron Paul!!!
If there really was disenchantment with idiocy, Gringrich should get zero vote intentions in the polls and Bachmann should get a negative number.
The most beautiful moment of the last debate~
Rick Perry thanks Ron Paul for shedding light on the true nature of the private federal reserve and plugs Jim Rickards book, "currency wars".
If the establishment wasn't ready to cut bait on dim-wit Perry before, you just know that wonderful moment ended his campaign
Usable idiot. When he says texas should detach from the USA the HuffPost/NEA will let them get a away with it.
Dumb like a fox!
fyi he doesn't say that..
anyway, this doesn't matter because voting in the current form is inherently inaccurate, if the goal is to make everyone as content as possible with the winner. If there are 8 candidates, then every primary voter should be given 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8=36 points to distribute (or at least be able to rank all 8 candidates by ordered preference, such that the weightings are as I described). Otherwise, how do we know that everyone who didn't vote for #1 or #2 would have preferred #2 over #1? This better method of weighted multi-votes is much better, yet we never reform the current idiotic way of voting (idiotic if there are more than 2 candidates, at least). F it.
OK, WHAT THE FUCK???!!!
WHY was this article on Ron Paul removed from the ZeroHedge home webpage? I have NEVER seen this done before to any other piece here! Something is VERY fishy!
EDIT: Now it is back again. Very odd.
"Rick Perry thanks Ron Paul for shedding light on the true nature of the private federal reserve and plugs Jim Rickards book, "currency wars".
I give Perry credit for having the ball's to say it on air.
Perry is trying to taint Paul by association to him. It's the only reason he's running.
That's asinine. I vote for who I want, period.
You mean, Rick Perry is unworthy of being Ron Paul's taint? I would agree.
Heh. Ron Paul bludgeons Rick Perry's taint while delivering his anchor baby spawn on the dirty blick floor of the Alamo... sweaty Perry adorned in a sombrero and serape, looks into the sun and realizes in horror that he's having his usual pre-debate nightmare. And so, in an unauthorized act of honesty, prostrates himself on live TV and kisses Ron Paul's gigantic old balls.
i didn't know perry read books. i guess he does some reading inbetween gay trist with other government workers in austin.....
that was GREAT!!!
my favorite part was when the slimy newt tried to defend himseld against Ron's true accusations of "serial hypocracy"...and failed...
not only fail but have to look at Romney, say some scum bag thing about capitalism and laugh like the douche bag he is. it's hard to believe people cant see through that shit.
Rick Perry seems more stunted than I am able to fully give appreciation to. I'd need many degrees beyond anthropology and sociology (not that I have either one). Again the wooden, lurching, buzzard-like physical demeanor.
He's lucky to be in good stead with the local Neanderthals. The doe-eyed 1000-mile stare, The abject vapishness. I wouldn't let this creep deliver my paper.
I heard a Ron Paul interview tonight that was just awesome
Link?
http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-defense-bill-establishes-martial-law-in-america/
The venerable Ron Paul IMHO is rock-solid here. Gives me gooseflesh. You can't bullshit gooseflesh.
I realize an existing ZH/AJ dichotomy. He's full of shit. He bloviates. He broke the MIAC report. Ron Paul seems to like him.
Anyway...link upon request.
i like ron paul too. but that shit obama gave me goose flesh. the proof is in the pudding; not the talk, the walk. paul seems to have a much higher probability of at least trying to do what he claims because he has been saying it for decades while being both damned and ignored.
The ONLY other good thing Perry said was during the first debate when he stated he would leave the UN and eject it from our soil...
But I attribute those rare statments to be flukes as his operator hit the wrong button. All the uuuuhhhh, uhh, uuuuuhhhs is his brain stalling for commands from his handler. ;)
Its all about having a clue what is going on. Ron Paul is getting traction because people know deep down inside, something is not right at all. Too much double talk, give people the info straight
http://www.dailyjobcuts.com
`
The problem with electing any president these days is that generally what that person said during campaigning has nothing to do with what they'll do while holding office.
So it all really boils down to who would actually break the least amount of campaign promises.
Elle Oh Elle.
If you do any amount of real research on Ron Paul, you will see that the problem you have proposed, in this particular case, is so minimal that it almost doesn't exist.
Here's a quick, easy list of Ron Paul's votes on legislation dating back to 1992.
http://www.votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/296/
for the first time today RP got some real coverage on NPR. Maybe I have not been listening enough but atleast I got to hear his name.
Ya i dont know which NPR u wear listening to but all i heard today where bits on Mitt and Newt,
don't kid yourself, ron paul's campaign has been perfectly choreographed. after 30 years of experience, you can bet that he has thought all of this through very carefully. his campaign will peak at the perfect time - ron is executing his plan brilliantly. tell me one mistake that he has made.
i wouldn't be surprised if ron hasn't already planned his presidential campaign leading up to his victory against barry.
god help america if he doesn't win.
Someone pinch me!
How?
Yep
As much as I hate to, I'll say it...
If RP wins the general election, he won't see inauguration.
If he doesn't see inauguration, we will have a civil war (or martial law).
Either way, the road to fixing the global ponzi system isn't going to be pretty.
That said, no true statesman has ever taken a position that didn't require courage and, for that, RP has my full support.
Godspeed Ron Paul.
"will have a civil war"
Have some faith in America. Letting Bankers go bankrupt is not the end of the world.
It enables a new beginning...
in other words, the command to commence looting of MF (probably to funnel to Obama campaign) had long been given.
There must be alot of zerohedge traffic on that site.... or CSPAN really needs more funding.
Well, Paul has been sucking up to the Israelites lately...he knows what he has to do. Still won't be enough though...it'll be the noxious Gingrich, with Paul going 3P.
Every president does that to get some more votes and money support. I don't see why not.
Junk this by supporting the big Ron Paul money bomb this Friday:
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/pages/mbpledge_teaparty_tku.html
I don't have a pot to piss in, so I sold the bucket I was using, and it's all going to RP ($400 bucket, sterling)
Gee, all he said is that they have a right to their sovereignty like every country and that the USA should be their friend, like for any country, and that the USA should not meddle with their business. You call that sucking up?
Under the circumstances, I'm afraid so. Rand Paul is actually the real deal, on all issues, but by then there probably won't be a country for him to run for the President of.
Worst rebuttal ever.. "I'm afraid so". Are you shitting me? They know how to fish, damnit. Time for them to pick up the pole and catch their own. We'll back them up when/if they need it. RP has stated numerous times.
if that does happen then Obama has a shot at getting relected. However, RP has made it well know that he has zero interest in running as a third party.
No. Interviewed on the 3P issue by Hannity a few days ago, Paul bobbed and weaved. He'll do it.
You're just too stupid to reply intelligently to.
U tawkin' ta' me? 119 junkers (as of 9:45 PM PST) are wrong, and I will be vindicated. It's the Grinch vs. the 'Groid, with 3P RP skimming enough (15-20%) to throw it to Obongo (@<45%) via the EC. First Tuesday in November. Then: 60 days to Ft. Sumter. Weapon up, wimps.
I surmise that you played hookey from bible school.
"Israelites" are the 12 jewish tribes of the Old Testament. Israelis are the citizens of a small political entity in the Middle East.
Ron Paul is to the Americanites what Jeremiah was to the Israelites.
another stark contrast with Dr. Paul is showing up on a banner ad in this very article: "Reelect Alan Grayson". I wish i was joking -- there is literally an ad asking for my contribution to the Grayson campaign. Ha!
Thats my district.. never happen.
funny he is asking for money though. He went into congress very rich, and came out 2 years later discustingly rich.
I see no possibility --- NO POSSIBILITY --- that the grossly hypocritical, politically ineffectual, former speaker of the House, Salamander Grinchgrinch, is going to be the GOP nominee. He is and has been just a flash in the pan, as an increasingly frantic pro-status-quo political establishment keeps desperately looking for somebody, ANYBODY to prevent "He Who Shall Not Be Named" from winning the Republican nomination.
I actually thought Gingrich would win the nomination when I heard he was running...something about it just struck me as probable despite the rest of the field.
The establishment wants him or Romney
I thought the same about Perry when he first appeared on the scene, the way the media was dry-humping him. Fortunately, he showed himself to be the complete moron that he is. I think you're right about the establishment wanting Romney, but that's his problem, he's too "establishment". Maybe Ron Paul actually has a chance. One can hope, anyway. Just hope he doesn't have some kind of unfortunate accident before or immediately after the election.
One major difference between Ron Paul and the others is that his support is unwavering. His poll numbers cannot go down, they can only go up because once someone has seen the light, there's no reason to look elsewhere.
That said, have you converted one person to become a Ron Paul supporter today? If every RP supporter converts one, RP's poll numbers double. We don't need too many doubles to win this thing. Let's go folks.
I told two friends...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgDxWNV4wWY
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/pages/mbpledge_teaparty_tku.html
RON PAUL MONEY BOMB THIS FRIDAY. PLEDGE NOW. WHO IS WITH ME?
If you pledge, tell us. I gave enough to hurt. You don't have to say how much, just whether it was enough to hurt.
This will be my 4th donation to his current campaign.
I make to much for it to hurt though. More likely it will hurt if he isnt elected.
I'm in. And I'll keep going in until I can't.
In.
good part of my democratic family has been swayed; almost brings a tear to my eye! RP is our last hope! we can live without the patriot act !
Those pure copper RP rounds at Provident metals make awesome stocking stuffers people!
Ive been sending them out with this years christmas cards.
http://www.providentmetals.com/1-avdp-oz-999-fine-copper-coin-ron-paul-p...
Nah, just use pre-1982 pennies... 95% copper.
SilverIsKing hit the nail on the head
i just texted 20 people announcing ron paul will be our next president...
all your votes are belong to us!!!
Really good! If only I knew how to hijack those "Huge discount 85% on ..." & "From the Office of ..." type spam emails I would surely get the RP message across to the 99%.
Sincere best wishes to RP. Heck, this European almost feels like contributing :O)
"A few honest men are better than numbers." Oliver Cromwell
That said, have you converted one person to become a Ron Paul supporter today?
Are you crazy?
True Ron Paul supporters are NOT people "converted" by someone else.
They "see the light" on their own. They "convert" themselves.
6000 years of religious history proves "converts" are not real.
You can't change someone's mind. They change their own mind, or it doesn't get changed.
"Maybe Ron Paul actually has a chance."
Not with rigged voting machines counting the votes.
We'll be like russia's 140%
IDEA:
Let's all take a pictures of the voting machine screen showing who we have selected for President.
Or maybe Anonymous could help counter the fraud!
Every voter should receive a randomly generated ID which could be checked against an online database showing the candidate selection associated with that ID.
Ron Paul should use the new terror laws to lock up a few hundred bankers and politicians and maybe some media people
For finacial terrorism
And sense laws were put into place or dismantled to facilitate said fraud and financial terror
That would be TREASON of the highest order.
Conspiracy to committ Treason
And Racketeering, embellizement and tax evasion
perhaps you jest but ron paul has the wind at his back because more and more people want those terror laws repealed. there are laws enough to put the banksters in jail and even without jail their organizations are insolvent. bankruptcy and discharge await them all even if they escape incarceration.
I think people should have 2 voting cards - submit 1 to Diebold fraud machine, submit another to a county office. Checks & Balances...like there should be.
my biggest fear is that our vote DEFINETELY won't matter this year. "Ron Paul wins the popular vote, but lost the electoral votes" -says Faux News
He should run with Ralph Nader as VP. Best life insurance policy ever :-)
Nah. Ventura would be a better insurance policy.
And he should wear his backpack minigun from Predator at all times.
Ron Paul RloveUTION Bitchez!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhDhDRvHaGs
the establishment needs to eat a big bag of dicks and fuck off
go ron paul
I don't know why Trav got so many negatives for that comment. He is right about the establishment wanting Gingrich or Romney. Unfortunately, the establishment usually gets what it wants, and if it can't, it will buy, coerce, or kill. That should be obvious to anyone.
People who are sick of the growing national debt, the fed, the Wall St frauds, the corporatization of American politics, the erosion of civil liberties, the endless wars, the military industrial complex, and having America's foreign policies dictated by Israel - People who are sick and tired of all these want Dr.Paul to win. I can't vote but I am one of them. Trav is merely saying the obvious that the establishment wants those fuckwits instead.
I thought the same thing. Trav did not say who he was for or not for. I thought Gingrich or Romney too. Gingrich is another crook who knows where the bodies are and he does not come off like a retard. I don't like it, but it could happen. Others have paved the way, adultry may not be a big deal any more. Romney has that plastic Obama appeal, so he could do it too (also not quite as stupid seeming as so many of the Republicans). But way out of touch in an elitist sort of way. Newt is just dumpy enough to seem "real."
I do not want either one. But it is how it looks right now.
For all of the pretenses of power that "the people" have about "voting" for "the President", don't we all know by NOW that the President is a false carrot-on-a-stick and he is a puppet controlled by a greater, inter-administration agenda?
Ron Paul cannot enable that inter-administration agenda. Ron Paul loses.
(Unless he gets promoted to 33rd degree and willingly accepts the role and knowledge thereof.)
Gingrich, Romney, Perry, (seppuku'd) Cain, Palin, Bachmann, whatever -- these are all viable candidates in terms of the greater agenda. The GOP might just go behind closed doors after Iowa and pick one of them (Gingrich / Romney most likely), and let the mainstream media present them as the "will of the Patriotic GOP Americans" and go Police State on all dissenters, be they OWS or be Goldwater GOP. Vote-counting fraud will ensure that dissenters are the minority.
No junks for the Trav comment here.
Ditto. And if/when Dr. Paul wins the public confidence, the Republican party will likely NOT award him the nomination. That will be the end of them in their current incarnation. I'll vote for Dr. Paul wherever he presents himself, as neither the R or D religions suit me much.
The "establishment" are Progressives. Progressives are Fabian socialists with a Marxism light government-knows-better than you and "btw" we don't believe in private property. If they aren't progressives, then they are big-government types. Hence Newt (clearly a progressive) and Romney (big-government "R") stand out. Where Ron Paul (who got cheers in my household during the last debate) is "off" is in his foreign policy stand. Every time the US has tried to go isolationist, we've been dragged into far more devastating conflicts. I do appreciate the hands-off approach, but until this country is not dependent on middle-east oil, we're a player. Period.
Although not getting the press, Santorum and Bachmann have the right principles on many points particularly when it comes to corraling government intrusion and fiscal idiocy. Their social conservatism is not helping them with the independents.
While we can sit on the sidelines and call everyone an idiot, one of these people is likely to be (short of an out-of-the-blue candidate) the candidate that will go up against Obama. There's little I can say that is favorable about the current POTUS, who is just as 'entrenched' with Wall Street as any President. Are we idiotizing everyone such that we are going to let the useless "O" have another go of it?
So what R we going to do? Ron Paul won't run a 3rd party candidacy, based on what he as already said.
Maybe its time to have a party that stands for fiscal sanity and rational regulation (you know, the kind that works that we all dream about?). My guess is a candidate that would focus on that theme would actually win.
If it came right down to it, Romney is better than Newt (holding my nose).
:^p
I agree with you on most points, but strenuously disagree with you on foreign policy, particularly your raising of the old canard about "isolationism". You may not have happened to notice, but your supposed "isolationism" is EXACTLY the foreign policy currently pursued by basically EVERY other nation in the world --- except for the USA. Somehow, they seem to be getting along just fine.
And there is an EXTREME difference between so-called "isolationism", which NOBODY in the USA that I know of supports, least of all Ron Paul, and a policy of armed peace and non-aggression, i.e., non-interventionism. Today's North Korea, pre-Meiji Japan, or 19th century Tibet are examples of true isolationist regimes (for which nobody is arguing in the US political sphere), whereas non-interventionism is currently practiced by Germany, Canada, Mexico, Turkey, or almost any other current nation-state you care to name (again, except the USA). The repudiation of our current neo-imperialist foreign policy does NOT equate to "isolationism" --- that is just a strawman argument of intellectually bankrupt warmongering statists.
You cannot support both limited government and a warmongering foreign policy at the same time --- they are mutually incompatible, and logically contradictory.
"War is the health of the State".
i would personally love to have "isolationism". And I am aware of what that means. We have all the resources here, we dont need anyone elses products. I think less war is better mainly because I dont believe that the reason we have most wars are the reson we have most wars. I think the US will gain respect from other nations if we do "leave everyone alone". By getting in everyone elses business every other nation in history has shot themselves in the foot, or even head. but what do i know, most likely nothing
paul asked him in the last debate about the money he was paid to consult with the freddie mac. he said he earned the money honestly while working in the private sector. there was a pause and then people in the audience started laughing........
It was what I imagined the Chinese students laughing at Geithner sounded like. You know, when he stated that our debt is safe. I wish there was a video of that as well.