Dollar Libor Market Hints 66x Leveraged Credit Agricole Was Bank X

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Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:28 | 1934696 Manthong
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El-Arian called it yesterday... something (stress) we don't know about..

And.. ES- Beautiful inverse head and shoulders print in last few hours..

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:32 | 1934714 Carlyle Groupie
Thu, 12/01/2011 - 12:59 | 1935280 slaughterer
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Yes, it was Credit Agri, I have confirmation of this.  Good work.  

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:26 | 1934699 Tsar Pointless
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From one of the Amerikkkans who helped bail you out, Credit Agricole, I say, "You're welcome".

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 11:54 | 1934989 onelight
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They would thank you, but their throat is tied, and stomach full of foie gras, fattening.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:29 | 1934706 hugovanderbubble
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Emporiki bank = Default---------------------> Default contagious to Credit Agricole.... 32.000 Mn Loan Dissapeared....

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:31 | 1934707 TruthInSunshine
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1.59 trillion?


Marc Faber: Now We Will See If Bernanke Is A True Money Printer Or An Amateur



Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:40 | 1934750 SheepDog-One
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I think Bernank has cold feet, he'll just operate in secret now.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:54 | 1934760 TruthInSunshine
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In secret but his cover is so blown.

By the way, bad link above (sorry).

Here's the correct one (gotta love the part where Faber rips The Bernank a new asshole and laughs hysterically as the Bloomberg Reporter even laughs).

Marc Faber: "Now We Will See If Bernanke Is A True Money Printer or Just an Amateur
Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:30 | 1934709 schismjism
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maybe the bankers will get rid of sarkozy this time? fat chance....

i've started a direct democracy blog, if you are interested in it:

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:50 | 1934781 CClarity
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Sarkozy will try to nationalize the French banks before they try to get rid of him in earnest.  And they'll both be "right" to try.

And none of that will be the solution to the debt saturation drowning European sovereigns and banks, permeating the world bycreating global quicksand.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:33 | 1934715 twotraps
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here we are again, faced with crap news....and now Goldman thinks it could be great for investing, Barclays thinks the reaction is misguided....the banks are broke but we still listen to them?  Hilarious.  Only to be surpassed by them upgrading and downgrading eachother!!!  Think about the psychology here...........GM ran itself into the ground fair and square.  If they issued weekly directives on everything from managment guidance/advice/suggestions, 'research' on earnings/inventory/sales estimates, smarty pants articles about trends in the industry...everyone would laugh and dismiss them.   How the banks continue to be taken seriously is beyond me.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:37 | 1934733 Spooky Polish
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Big money = big serious 

Big Fiat = serious fail 

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:43 | 1934759 SheepDog-One
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Why do we keep listening to those who fail the most? Oh wait I remember, because of their 'talent'. Remember thats why they said the banks cant take a hit years ago....why, they wouldnt be able to replace all that top TALENT! Folks, we've been Jewed.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:33 | 1934717 hugovanderbubble
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Sarkozy please tell us , the World, where has the money from Emporiki Bank( Greek Credit Agricole Bank) gone? ------------------FIRE PARIS---BURNING ATHENS

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:34 | 1934722 Christoph830
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Bravo, Tyler.  Bravo.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:34 | 1934726 electricgorilla
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One bank of many teetering on the edge of not only a liquidity crisis but an insolvency crisis.

On a side note, kudos to Zerohedge for the great market leading insightful info. I've been getting most of my financial news from here as of lately and happened to view some stuff on CNBC. Going back to that website was like taking a step back into the Ice Age with a hint of comedy. Pitiful if you ask me.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:40 | 1934746 Tsar Pointless
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Yes, respect to ZeroHedge.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:38 | 1934739 Seasmoke
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there is a crazed lunatic at the controls and the rest just sit back and hope it works out for him

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:46 | 1934768 SheepDog-One
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No one does anything, just marveling at their captors.

Gee, I wonder what the insane lunatics next move will be? Shoot another dollar hostage?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 11:06 | 1934834 Carlyle Groupie
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I hope for a US taxpayer bailout of all French banks. It's time we reward these people for the fast food marvel; fries.

Which to date has added 19% yoy to US GDP.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:38 | 1934741 Scalaris
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O/T : Sky News - UK Banks Told To Plan For Eurozone Split

Britain's biggest banks have been urged by the City regulator to prepare for a break-up of the eurozone. The head of the Financial Services Authority (FSA), Hector Sants, has told financial institutions to accelerate plans for a separation of the single currency area.

Senior excutives from Barclays, HSBC, Lloyds Banking Group, RBS, Santander UK and Standard Chartered were given the warning at a private meeting with the FSA boss.


Thu, 12/01/2011 - 12:08 | 1935041 reload
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Dont get your hopes up just yet.

Its a desperate ploy by Cameron to get the real printing started - his masters at Barclays demand it!

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:39 | 1934745 Joe Sixpack
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I just heard on National Puking Radio (NPR) that they "probably just avoided a Lehman like event".



Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:44 | 1934763 Sandy15
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MF Global started the majority of this.  I believe people are getting their money out after Jon Corizine stole money from customers but is still walking FREE because he is a DemoRat.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:47 | 1934771 SheepDog-One
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Sure they avoided another total collapse...for a few days anyway.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:46 | 1934756 Everybodys All ...
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When will a major ratings agency decide France should lose the AAA rating? Sean Egan s not a major btw.

Who are the counter parties to Bank X? That is going to be the major story. One bank could set the whole panic in motion? Hedge accordingly.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:49 | 1934779 justanothernerd
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Go get a job at Goldman and that information will probably be in your training packet.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:49 | 1934780 Tsar Pointless
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Meanwhile, OT, but the Bloomberg Consumer Comfort Index for Nov. 27 was released, and once again, it is below -50, dropping to -50.2 from -50.1.

I think there has been just one week since late September that this index hasn't been below -50.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:50 | 1934782 DeadFred
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It's hard to follow the colors so who is in 2nd place BofA or SocGen? I thought it was interesting that the Fed move was right after BAC dropped below $5. But course everyone knows their financial situation is just fine.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:50 | 1934786 lolmao500
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Now won't be long before traders pick up on that and destroys what's left of Credit Agricole.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:52 | 1934791 Mike2756
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Is that bac running a close second?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:52 | 1934792 Christoph830
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We need to find out who is the AIG this time around.

Who's writing all the CDS?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 12:16 | 1935085 reload
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The buyers of the CDS are going to be the marks this time.

Look at who controls ISDA - the list is a whos who of CDS writers.

Greece was a clear warning - they are worthless, nothing BIG will be alowed to have a credit event.

A nice new name will be invented instead, and they willk not pay out.

Much as I admire Kyle Bass I wonder if he is getting worried.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 22:53 | 1937129 ucsbcanuck
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I have a feeling Kyle is already either way in the money or closed out his positions a long time ago.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:53 | 1934793 prodigious_idea
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ZH, like a dog on a bone when it smells something funny.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:56 | 1934798 rambler6421
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Doesn't Mike Mayo work there?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:56 | 1934800 lolmao500
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Deutsche Bank are really insane... Leveraged 62 times with 2+ trillion in assets... crazy bastards.

When they go tits up, Germany is screwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwed.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:56 | 1934802 bbelux
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Hmm considering the ration only for ACA FP Equity is partial. ACA is only one part of the listed credit agricole vehicle. have a look at CNF CAF CRBP2 CCN CRAV CRLA CRAP (no joke) CIV CMO CRLO CRTO CAT31 CRSU.

The so called "caisse" around the listed ACA stock are liquidity providers to ACA, in that extent I think Tangible equity should be adressed in another way

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:57 | 1934805 Hohum
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Liquidity down your throat of last resort?  It is never "last resort" for the Fed--there's always another scheme.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 11:02 | 1934821 dermus
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What is ES?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 11:05 | 1934832 Ponzi Unit
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Sacre bleu!

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 11:15 | 1934863 GMadScientist
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Comment dit-on "Lehman" en français?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 11:18 | 1934874 Scalaris
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Was it SocGen or CredAg that was leveraged by 50X, and how close would that be for it to become the next X bank event?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 11:18 | 1934876 slewie the pi-rat
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i generally don't approve of any balance sheet leverage past 50:1

if i could just see their 0ff-balance-sheet "derivatives & SIVs" i'm sure they would look much stronger

i guess we are gonna spend the foreseeable future looking @ one damned zombie after another...

lQQk!  a zombie bank!  full of highly-paid & -bonused banksters!  if we don't keep shoveling them money, the sky will fall!  just ask them!

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 11:59 | 1935008 lolmao500
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if i could just see their 0ff-balance-sheet "derivatives & SIVs" i'm sure they would look much stronger

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Sorry but derivatives won't get paid once it starts going south.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 11:30 | 1934911 SillySalesmanQu...
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A tip of the hat Tyler,,,great job!

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 11:32 | 1934922 alpharack
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Markets are devouring dollars like there has never being supply of dollars. Expect the knee-jerk reaction to go on.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 11:32 | 1934926 Chicago bear
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Best analysis and news anywhere. Hear none of this anywhere else. Do radio news announcements all get printed and distributed from the same place? Even independent news is not up to par with ZH.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 11:37 | 1934943 bbelux
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From the US the Credit Agricole core-sattelite funding model may sound strange. But ACA is maybe the biggest bank in terms of deposits in France. I am not working there :-) But just to be clear, ACA is more the Investment Bank vehicle than the retail vehicle. In that extent things are pretty normal. CA CIB as shown on the graph is a small player in the US market, so this, in my opinion, is not relevant. Bank X should be elsewhere. Is the Dexia case closed? 

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