Doug Casey Addresses Getting Out of Dodge

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Submitted by Doug Casey of Casey Research

Doug Casey Addresses Getting Out of Dodge

L: Doug, a lot of readers have been asking for guidance on how to know when it's time to exit center stage and hunker down in some safe place. Few people want to hide from the world in a cabin in the woods while life goes on in the mainstream, but nobody wants to get caught once the gates clang shut on the police state the US is becoming. How do you know when it's time to go?

Doug: Well, the first thing to keep in mind is that it's better to be a year too early than a minute too late. David Galland recently read They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45, by Milton Mayer. He quoted a passage in his column of last Friday. It goes a long way in explaining why Americans appear to be such whipped dogs today. They're no different from the Germans of recent memory. For those who missed it, let me quote it:

"You see," my colleague went on, "one doesn't see exactly where or how to move. Believe me, this is true. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don't want to act, or even talk, alone; you don't want to 'go out of your way to make trouble.' … In the university community, in your own community, you speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, 'It's not so bad' or 'You're seeing things' or 'You're an alarmist.'

"These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don't know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic… the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That's the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked… But of course this isn't the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C?"

The fact is that the US has been on a slippery slope for decades, and it's about to go over a cliff. However, our standard of living, while declining, is still very high, both relatively and absolutely. But an American can enjoy a much higher standard of living abroad.

On the other hand, if I were some poor guy in a poverty-wracked country with few opportunities, I'd want to go where the action is, where the money is, now. Today, that means trying to get into the United States. The US is headed the wrong direction, but it's still a land of opportunity and a whole lot better than some flea-bitten village in Niger.

L: By the time things get worse than some Third-World dictatorship in the US, such a person could have remitted a whole lot of cash back home.

Doug: And you'd have a whole lot of experiences that would give you a competitive edge back where you came from, or in the next place you go to. The one-eyed man is king in the valley of the blind. People have to lose that backward, peasant mentality that ties them to the land of their birth. Sad to say, although the average American has somewhat more knowledge of the world – mainly due to television – his psychology is just as constrained as that of some serf from central Asia or some primitive village in Africa. It's all a matter of psychology.

But if you're not poor, you want to go someplace that is safe, nice – whatever that means to you – and with a lower cost of living. As most readers know, for me that's Cafayate, Argentina, but one size does not fit all. It needs to be a place you actually enjoy spending some time, with people whose company you enjoy.

L: Fair enough. But our readers want to know if your guru-sense is tingling yet, or how close you think we are to it being too late to leave – or at least too late to leave with any meaningful assets.

Doug: I'm a trend observer. This is one of the advantages of studying history, because it shows you that things like this rarely happen overnight. They are usually the result of trends that build over years and years, sometimes over generations. In the case of the US, I think the trend has been downhill, in many ways, for many years. Pick a time. You could make an argument, from a moral point of view, that things started heading downhill at the time of the Spanish-American War. That was when a previously peaceful and open country first started conquering overseas lands and staking colonies. America was still in the ascent towards its peak economically, but the seeds of its own demise were already sewn, and a libertarian watching the scene might have concluded that it was time to get out of Dodge –

L: [Laughs] That would have been a bit early…

Doug: [Chuckles] Yes, that would have been way too soon. As Adam Smith observed, there's a lot of ruin in a country.

L: On the other paw, it would have gotten you out before the War between the States, a disaster well worth avoiding.

Doug: No, the Spanish-American War was in 1898.

L: Oops! Sorry, I was thinking of what Americans call the Mexican-American War, but which Mexicans call the "American Invasion" –

Doug: [Laughs]

L: I'm not joking. That's what they called it in the history books I was given in Mexican schools when I lived there in the '70s. It has long seemed to me that that was an ominous turn for the worse for the US and a clear example of conquering a weaker neighbor purely for pillage – not just Texas, but everything from there all the way to California.

Doug: That's right. Davey Crockett and the boys, we love them, but in many ways they were the equivalent of today's Mexicans who want to recolonize the southwest and turn it back into part of Mexico, in what they call the Reconquista.

L: Indeed, but this is ancient history to most US taxpayers today – I'm reminded that it's not correct in many cases to call them Americans.

Doug: Yes, just as it was a misnomer to call the people who lived in the Roman Empire after Diocletian Romans – because Roman citizens were once free men. After about 300 AD most of them were bound to the land or their occupations as serfs. But the slide for Rome started at least 120 years earlier, after the death of Marcus Aurelius. Politically, the decline started with the accession of Julius Caesar 240 years before that. So, when did the slide – politically, economically, and socially – really start for the US? When were there no more trends going up?

L: FDR? The New Deal was really a moral, economic, and political turning point.

Doug: You could make that argument, but the US still grew economically, despite the roadblocks FDR threw in its path. US military power and global prestige continued growing from that point, although, paradoxically, the accelerating growth of the US military was directly responsible for the decline of the US economically and in terms of personal freedom. One reason for the ascendancy of the US after World War II was that we were the only major country in the world not physically devastated by the war.

L: Ah. Right.

Doug: So it seems to me that the peak of American civilization was in the 1960s. As for evidence, well, I like to put my finger on the 1959 Cadillac. Those twin bullet taillights, the opulence of it… In terms of then-current technology, things couldn't get much better.

L: "Opulence. I has it."

Doug: [Laughs – a real belly laugh] That's my favorite TV commercial! Anyway, that was the peak, in my mind. Though things continued getting better for a while, the US started to live out of capital.

L: Had to pay for guns and butter.

Doug: That's right. The Johnson administration's so-called Great Society created vast new federal bureaucracies that promised Americans free food, shelter, medical care, education, and what-have-you. Americans became true wards of the state. But the real, final nail in the coffin for America was in 1971 –

L: Nixon taking the US off the gold standard.

Doug: Nixon taking the US off the gold standard – open devaluation of the dollar, combined with wage and price controls for some months. And that was not long after the so-called Bank Secrecy Act, which abolished bank secrecy, and required the reporting of all foreign financial accounts. Nixon was, in many ways, even more of a disaster than Johnson. Republicans are usually worse than Democrats when it comes to freedom, partly because they like to couch their depredations in the rhetoric of defending the free market. While everyone understands that Democrats are socialists just under the surface, Republicans actually give capitalism a bad name. Baby Bush is a perfect, recent example.

L: But don't you worry your pretty little head about devaluation – it's just a "bugaboo" – and as long as you're not one of those unpatriotic people wanting to buy imports or vacation abroad, your dollar will be worth just as much tomorrow as it is today. The scary thing is that the Belarusian dictator Lukashenko said almost the same thing when the Belarusian ruble lost two thirds of its forex value earlier this year, asking his countrymen why they need to go on vacation in Germany or buy German cars…

Doug: You see why I like to study history? It doesn't repeat, but it sure does rhyme…

L: With a vengeance.

Doug: So, anyway, since 1971, some things have improved largely due to technological advances, but the America That Was has been fading into the past. It was a decisive turning point. You can see that in the accelerated proliferation of undeclared wars we've had since then. I don't just mean the penny-ante invasions of Granada and Panama – the US has always lorded it over Caribbean and Central American banana republics; those are just sport wars. But Iraq and Afghanistan are alien cultures on the other side of the world – apart from never posing any threat to the US. Now it looks like Iran and Pakistan are on the dance card, and they're big game. The War Against Islam has started in earnest, and it's going to end badly for the US. I explained all this at great length in the white paper, Learn to Make Terror Your Friend, that I wrote for The Casey Report last month.

Domestically, saying that the US is turning into a police state when you started this conversation was quite accurate. You can see more and more videos spreading over the Internet, not just of police brutality, but demonstrating the militarization and federalization of police, who are being inculcated with both disdain for and paranoia about ordinary citizens.

In the old days, if you were stopped for speeding, the peace officer was polite – you could get out of your car, meet the cop on neutral ground, and chat with him. You didn't have a serious problem unless you were obviously drunk or combative. Now, you don't dare make a move. You better keep your hands in plain sight on the steering wheel and be ready for a Breathalyzer test without probable cause. The law enforcement officer will stand behind you with his hand on his gun. And you're the one who'd better be polite.

L: There has been a polar reversal. The cops used to address citizens as "sir" or "ma'am." Now, the correct response in a traffic stop is: "Yes, sir! I would love to inspect the bottom of your boot, sir!"

Doug: [Laughs] That's right. My friend Marc Victor gives out magnetized business cards. People ask, "Why?" He answers that it's so clients can put them on the bottom of their cars or refrigerators, so they can see it when the cops throw them to the ground.

L: Marc's a good man. There's a handy video on Marc's website, offering advice on what to do if you're pulled over by the police in a traffic stop.

Doug: A good public service announcement. At any rate, I think there's no question that the US has turned the corner on every basis: politically, socially, morally, and now, economically…

L: Okay, but, Doug, you said that in 1979 too. The question is, how do we know when the door is going to close?

Doug: [Laughs.] Well, sometimes I feel a little like the boy who cried wolf. But Roman writers like Tacitus and Sallust saw where Rome was going before it got completely out of control. Should they have said nothing, for fear of being too early? Here in the US, it should have gone over the edge back in the 1980s, but we got lucky. There was still a lot of forward momentum, which can last for decades when you're speaking of civilizations. There was the computer productivity boom. The Soviet Union collapsed, China liberalized, and Communism was discredited everywhere except on US college campuses. The end of the Cold War opened up vast areas of the world to the global market. And most surprising of all, Volker tightened up the money supply and interest rates went high, causing people to save money and stop borrowing to consume.

L: That's not happening this time.

Doug: No. We got lucky back then. Since the '90s we've had a long and totally phony, debt-driven boom that's now come to an end. I feel very confident that there's no way out this time. There are huge distortions and misallocations of capital that have been cranked into the system for two decades. And not just in the US this time, but in Europe, China, Japan, and elsewhere.

The US is very clearly on the decline. The fact that in spite of bankrupting military expenditures to no gain for the American people, those in power are talking overtly and aggressively about attacking more countries – Iran and Pakistan in particular – is extremely grave. The fact that they attacked Libya – which, incidentally, is going to turn into a total disaster, a civil war that will last for years – shows it's not stopping. Sure, Obama brought troops home from Iraq – another disaster that's going to remain a disaster for years to come – but at the same time he put a company of combat troops in Uganda, of all places and Marines in Australia, to provoke the Chinese.

Back home, I've read reports that people are being stopped for carrying gold coins out of the US, in Houston in particular. Now we have authorization of the military to detain US citizens, on US soil, with no trail, and indefinitely, on the verge of becoming law. And Predator Drones have been used to hunt down farmers on their own ranches.

I could go on and on. This is not like spotting early signs of decay in America's expansionist wars of the 19th century or things getting worse with FDR. Most people can't see it with all the noise and confusion, but we've reached the edge of the precipice.

L: Don't worry about exactly where the edge is, just assume it's there and take appropriate action?

Doug: Yes. It really is there. It's a clear and present danger. But most Americans are as oblivious as most Germans were in the '30s. In fact, most of them support what's going on, just as most Germans supported their government in the '30s and '40s.

L: So… don't worry about figuring out exactly when the gates will shut. Assume they are shutting now?

Doug: That's right. One should be actively and vigorously looking to expatriate assets, cash, and even one's self. A prudent person will always be diversified politically and internationally.

L: What about people who have jobs they can't continue doing from abroad and who need the income?

Doug: They should still prepare, as best they can, to be ready to go on a vacation when things get hot – a vacation from which they might not return for a long time. All that needs happen, with the hysteria that's building in the US, is for a major terrorist incident – real or imagined – to occur. Homeland Security will lock the country down. I hate to admit it, but I'm almost starting to credit the stories about those FEMA camps.

Look, I know it sounds extreme, and the comparison to pre-WWII Germany has been made many times, but it bears repeating. Germany was the most literate, civilized, and even mellow, in some ways, country in Europe. It was much admired all around the world – a nation of shopkeepers, small farmers, and scholars. But the whole character of the place started changing in 1933, and it just got worse and worse. By the end of 1939, if you weren't out, you were done.

L: [Pauses] Well, not a cheerful thought. Actions to take?

Doug: Things we've said before: Set up foreign bank accounts in places you like to travel, while you can. Set up vault arrangements for physical precious metals outside the US. Buy foreign real estate that you'd like to own, because it can't be forcibly repatriated. Offshore asset protection trusts are a good idea too. Become an International Man. Let me emphasize that US taxpayers should stay within all US laws, because the consequences of breaking them are unbelievably draconian.

Generally, one simply must internationalize one's assets. The biggest danger investors face, by far, is not market risk – huge as that will be – but political risk. The only way to insulate yourself from such risk is to diversify yourself politically and geographically.

L: Right then… words to the wise. Thanks for your insight.

Doug: You're welcome. Most won't, but I just hope readers listen.

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Wed, 01/04/2012 - 20:14 | 2034082 Hedgetard55
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  1. Headline: 15 November, 2012.
  2. The following message was smuggled out of Guantanamo Bay Terrorism Retention Facility #3 yesterday. From ex Senator McCain, inmate #23.
  3. “I made a tragic mistake thinking Obama would never use the NDAA power we gave him against honest American citizens. Here in GTMO with all of the other Republican Senators legally elected just a week ago, and all the Republican Congressmen and women also legally elected, with the results of the election cancelled by the President and the winner, Mitt Romney arrested and missing, it is clear to me that the Nation’s only hope now is a revolt by the military personnel sworn to uphold the Constitution.”
Wed, 01/04/2012 - 20:19 | 2034095 Uber Vandal
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This is not too far removed from a conversation I had with a friend of mine who insisted that the people who have sold us out will be swinging from the very poles we may be hung on once they are no longer useful.

Wed, 01/04/2012 - 20:25 | 2034112 economics1996
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Yea.

Wed, 01/04/2012 - 23:36 | 2034499 Haywood Jablowme
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"You see," my colleague went on, "one doesn't see exactly where or how to move. Believe me, this is true. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don't want to act, or even talk, alone; you don't want to 'go out of your way to make trouble.' … In the university community, in your own community, you speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, 'It's not so bad' or 'You're seeing things' or 'You're an alarmist.'

 

Like it has been said many times before, especially over the last 3 years.......nothing but a cascade waterfall to taking society and the markets down.  Normalcy Bias is a bitch....

 

 

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 00:33 | 2034594 AldousHuxley
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outsourcing and offshoring produced profits for multinational corporations

well all those profits are gone and stocks are not generating enough profit for 401k and IRA

 

old middle class won't be retiring comfortably, so more and more will leave USA to cheaper locations

young middle class don't have jobs, so more and more will leave USA to cheaper locations

 

current saying now is taxpayers and workers, "don't ask what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you"

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 00:46 | 2034606 Atomizer
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This morning I woke up to Larry Kudlow telling me who to vote for and 'Free market capitalism is the best path to prosperity!'

The quasi-monopoly is spinning out of control. Before the 2012 election completes, J6P will see thru the deception of global socialism disguised as capitalism. Now a days, ism's overlap.

Have a quick look --->>    Axial Division of Labour

You may want to read a book called 'The System of the World, by Neal Stephenson.'

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 00:57 | 2034616 Harlequin001
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The people will put up with a lot more than this before they finally lose it...

This has got a long way to run yet.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 02:05 | 2034673 AldousHuxley
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as long as there is food stamps and TV, people will put up with anything.

 

smart ambitious people are another story. Some are already leaving or have left.

 

 

 

 

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 02:27 | 2034690 Jack Napier
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Where would we be today if Paul Revere got out of dodge? Or Andrew Jackson? Yes, be self sufficient, have tangible assets, get out of the paper scheme, but don't puss out now. I won't be flocking to any major cities, but if freedom falls in the US then we're all slaves in the actual sense of the word, as opposed to just debt slaves. Not on my watch.

For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul? For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 02:51 | 2034710 Heyoka Bianco
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If the British had GPS tracking, how far do you think Paul Revere would have gotten? How well would Andy Jaxs done against a Predator drone or the local constable riding in an APC with a squad of body-armed troopers armed with assault rifles? How are you going to stop the full might and anger of the US military, tough guy?

By the way something, what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? It porofits a man the WHOLE WORLD.

On the same note, all of them want to go to heaven but none of them want to die.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 04:47 | 2034764 Haywood Jablowme
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Which is exactly why Celente was correct in forecasting the "cyber-war" trend.  Hardware is only as good as the software enabling it.  This is where outfits such as Lulzsec and Anonymous help the fight....

 

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 05:17 | 2034776 deKevelioc
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"This is where outfits such as Lulzsec and Anonymous help the fight...."

 

You may never know who is who.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 06:29 | 2034832 Haywood Jablowme
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Agreed, but it's the same situation that's always been present in times of conflict.  Technology surely was much different during the US Revolution as well as many other prior incidences of war, revolution, and conflict, but the principles behind counter-intelligence / under-cover operatives will still remain the same.  People will soon find their place amongst this grand scheme whether they're ready or not....

 

 

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 05:30 | 2034789 macholatte
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a little help please:

somewhere I saw a picture that I'd like to get a copy of. It was a street scene with a bunch of people standing around looking a a platoon of Star Wars troops (the guys in the white plastic outfits) parading down the sidewalk and the caption read: Did you think it would be this obvious?

please past a link if you know of this picture.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 07:02 | 2034888 Silver Alert
Thu, 01/05/2012 - 13:56 | 2036088 macholatte
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Thanks!

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 09:51 | 2035096 tarsubil
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It profits the whole world, which is nothing to him in a 100 years. None of us are getting out alive. Might as well give your life some meaning.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 05:12 | 2034774 Michael
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The Capitol of the United States of America should be a place that is most revered and admired throughout our great land. After all, it belongs to us.

But in recent years our Capitol in Washington D.C. has become a place that is most reviled by 91% of the people. With a congressional approval rating of 9%, I would say the entire country is reviled by what is in D.C.. 

Congress Critter Recycling Mania.

Till we get some good ones in there.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 05:27 | 2034786 Michael
Thu, 01/05/2012 - 06:19 | 2034821 Michael
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New.

Creepy Rick Santorum Takes Dead Offspring Home to Show Children

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV4yLwG6cgg&list=UUdSnTNA6aMtwMSA6x2vyTYw&index=1&feature=plcp

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 07:39 | 2034930 _underscore
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..and where, pray,  do they really go in this globliased world?  Much as I agree with the sentiment of the interviewee & many of his predictions, where is this Shangri-la place where you're free to operate & live as you were (or thought you were) before? This notion of national 'firewalls' is like imagining ocean pollution won't wash up on your beach, sometime.

Does he really really think that an America, as he describes or foretells if it came about, wouldn't have had such co-causal effects over the whole planet that ANY place would be as bad - or on the same continuum to be becoming a  bad place?

Does he really think foreign governments would welcome, with open arms, fleeing regugees (even if they had a pound or two of gold..)? Check out the checks & constraints that were placed on German nationals fleeing Nazi Germany when they went to Uk, USA, Switzerland etc.

I do think you can make preparations though, in your own country, in your own county, in your own town - in your own house & with your own lifestyle - in your own head.

Maybe the super-rich & super-connected could make their escape pod as described in the piece - just count the number of privately owned (defensible) small islands in the Caribbean for example. But for the average Joe (or even the slightly more than average Joe) thinking like this is more hindrance than help, in my humble opinion.

 

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 00:59 | 2034622 AldousHuxley
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free market capitalism is best for those who have obtained capital without having to pay his/her dues in labor time.....inheritance.

 

yes we obtain financial and material prosperity....but at what long term cost?

 

Just ask any young wall st banker if the six figure bonus is worth not having a life.

 

Super competition has created conditions where only psychopaths will thrive. no morals, no family, no friends, no heart, no life....live for gaining more money for the sake of keeping score.

 

Europe is socialist not because they are lazy, but they know what the realities of capitalism's promises are after experiencing 2 world wars.

 

America is about to learn her lessons soon like a spoiled child.

 

 

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 01:32 | 2034649 Big Slick
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ONE QUESTION:  Does the palace I apparently own as Prince of Nigeria count as a non-repatriable asset?

(I also have large bank accounts all over the world at my disposal upon the mere provision of my Social Security number... AND an unlimited supply of Viagra... so I guess I'm set for SHTF)

 

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 02:40 | 2034703 object_orient
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I was thinking about the "internationalize your assets" thing. So, I bury my Spam in Canada and Mexico?

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 04:25 | 2034759 Angus McHugepenis
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Both of you... just send me your bank info and quit fucking around.

Sincerely,

Aljafj of Nigeria

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 06:05 | 2034806 Zero Govt
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AldousHuxley  -  it is monopoly and privilege that creates psychopaths

Competition is the great leveller of all the worst aspects of human ego or mental delusion

you don't see the worst of humanity in a free market... you see it in Govt, in monopolies that hang off Govt like the Fed, MIC, UN, enviromentalism and in privileged circles like Ivy League

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 08:07 | 2034961 AnAnonymous
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Ummmm, maybe because those are the apex of the competition processes that happen in a US citizen society?

US citizens and their old propaganda. Competition was characterized in the 1900s.

If you want to add to the pool, please feel free. But if it is to rehash the same old propaganda...

Oh sorry, you are a US citizen, so you cant do.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 09:57 | 2035112 tarsubil
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He's talking real competition not jumping through hoops like a good little doggy.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 09:46 | 2035086 Jimmy Carter wa...
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Nailed it!

 

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 01:23 | 2034644 Oh regional Indian
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People not familiar with Upton Sinclair should take a moment or a few to do so.

Same goes for Lindburgh (Father and Son) and the amazing Congressman McFadden.

It goes way back...

/truth-about-america-truth-about-us/

ori

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 05:02 | 2034772 UP Forester
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Upton and Rachel Carson would have had beautiful, Madison Avenue children....

Wed, 01/04/2012 - 20:28 | 2034118 Calmyourself
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Hitler's night of the long knives comes to mind..  All dictators kill the useful idiots once power has been consolidated cannot have them used by someone else.

Wed, 01/04/2012 - 21:00 | 2034166 Bindar Dundat
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Or it could be smoother than that. Here is an interesting read. 

 

http://www.larryobrien.net/my-worst-fear/

Wed, 01/04/2012 - 22:39 | 2034397 YBNguy
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No man escapes when freedom fails,

All good men rot in filthy jails,

and those that cried 'Appease, Appease!',

are hung by those they tried to please.    - Anon.

 

On a side note, Uruguay is looking better and better...

Wed, 01/04/2012 - 23:06 | 2034446 flacon
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I escaped back in 2009 after I woke myself up and discovered for the first time "debt money" and "fractional reserve banking".

 

 

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 00:21 | 2034575 clymer
Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:04 | 2036824 theman
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Nice post Clymer, thank you.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 01:10 | 2034625 Harlequin001
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Flacon, I escaped back in 2001 when I first realised that we were all in debt, and had to be that way if we in the West were ever to be wealthy.

Now I live overseas where the climate is warm, the people are friendly and many races live peacefully side by side. There's no capital gains tax and I have an exemption from income tax because I am a foreigner; I live in a Muslim country. Can you imagine that? I keep my assets in Trust, in bullion and in other countries so I and my family can be up and ready to move in just a few hours if it all goes south. I enjoy a fabulous lifestyle because of the low or no tax position or alternatively I could go fight for a country that wants to tax me 50% on my income, to devalue all of my assets in paper and then tax me on that as well so that I can be financially abused and live in a small house. Go figure...

Wake me up when the punch up's finished and I'll let you know if I'm prepared to bring my capital back and invest it. For now, fuck 'em...

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 07:23 | 2034914 grey7beard
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>> I'm prepared to bring my capital back and invest it.

Please, stay where you are.  It's shitbags like yourself that got us into this mess. 

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 07:41 | 2034931 Harlequin001
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Perhaps you could explain how?

for our collective benefit of course...

 

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 07:36 | 2034916 eurogold
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Malaysia? I'm considering moving there too.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 14:03 | 2034937 Harlequin001
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I hear it's a nice place...

Closest you can get to heaven without dying I'm told...

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 05:28 | 2034787 IrritableBowels
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Any suggestions on location? I just received the full set of pimsleur discs for German and Spanish in preps for a certain region in "the south," but am always open to good ideas...

Wed, 01/04/2012 - 20:30 | 2034127 GeezerGeek
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McCain wouldn't be sent to Gitmo since he's too much the useful idiot.

More to your point, people should read about the French Revolution. It is instructive how the Revolution consumed many of it's leaders using the methods devised by those very same former leaders. Not that I want anything resembling the mob rule exhibited by the French to ever happen here, but it would be sort of neat to have each succeeding president make former presidents disappear. Maybe former congressmen and senators, too, as it would save a bundle on retirement costs. (Just kidding, Ms. Napolitano!)

Wed, 01/04/2012 - 20:42 | 2034151 I think I need ...
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RELAX everyone! Don't panic,,,,,it is best to panic early if your going to however,,,,,,

Wed, 01/04/2012 - 20:51 | 2034175 Conrad Murray
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This is a great show from History Channel about the French Revolution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdZvdj4PgiY

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 03:48 | 2034745 geekgrrl
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Thanks for the link Conrad! It was a well done show, and some of that history I didn't know.

But there is always something that bothers me about History Channel depictions. I'm not sure I can put my finger on it, but I always get the feeling that the intent of their histories is much like those I received in public school: a series of facts and circumstances, names and dates, but precious little in the way of connecting the history to current times - the very purpose of learning history. It is almost as if the historical accounting is meant to sever any linkage to modern times by encapsulating it in some particular place and time, even though most of the things people fight for are eternal and ultimately life and death battles and have been since the beginning. All the historians kept bemoaning all the bloodshed as if it didn't have any point, when it absolutely, positively had a point. One that elites still fear today. And they should.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 01:18 | 2038084 SimplePrinciple
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What's more, there is the usual slant in what little context is provided.  I have just learned in that otherwise interesting show that deregulation caused a huge increase in the price of wheat, which in turn resulted in food shortages.  So the French Revolution was all the fault of deregulation, I guess, and higher prices mean less supply and more demand, hmmm.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 01:53 | 2038207 geekgrrl
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Yes. What I really got out of the history was that starving people can do some crazy shit. You think that point is lost on our current government?

We have 50 million people on food stamps, fully 1/6th of the population? If those cards stop working, I give this country 1 (one) week.

Wed, 01/04/2012 - 22:43 | 2034406 YBNguy
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Bro-heme, it was not the French Revolution that was the worst part, but the reign of terror that followed. We are nothing like them as we lack our Robespierre also known as 'The Uncorruptable' one... And who would be our Jacobins?

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