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Dr. Jekyll And Mr. Jackass - The Two Faces Of Disenchanted Greek Youth

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With the majority of young (and middle-aged for that matter) voters in Greece moving away from the mainstream parties as they become disillusioned about their futures, today brings together two sides of the potential reaction (one of hope and one of despair). In an 80-second clip, we hear the truth that "leaving the country is a real prospect for a lot of young people unfortunately right now" as they are left with the difficult choice of whether to "Leave Greece or stay here and try to live on EUR300-400 per month". Perhaps it is the comment that "Austerity is not the solution, Austerity is the problem" that best summarizes their feelings and perhaps leads to the other 'extreme' side of the Greek youth reaction. As neo-Nazi party, Golden Dawn, celebrated their consolidating election performance yesterday with another attack on an immigrant. A Pakistan national was stabbed last night at Attiki train station. A video, taken from a mobile phone, shows a number of youths, confirmed by eye witnesses as Golden Dawn supporters, kicking someone on the floor. As the video ends, two of the youths can clearly be heard talking, with one asking the other if he used his knife, with the assailant confirming this by saying "it went all the way in". Whether it is the cuts of budgets via austerity or the cuts of the Golden Dawn supporters' attacks, it is clear that Greece is on a knife's edge and this election merely delays the inevitable exit (or further raises the potential - as we have been concerned about for over a year - of real civil unrest and chaos ensuing).


Greek Youth Reject Austerity - Tough choices for young Greeks who may be forced to leave the country (and its future). Thoughtful, afraid young people reflecting honestly and frankly on their future...


and the other side, as reported by Athens News...

4.42pm Golden Dawn "celebrated" their consolidating election performance yesterday with another attack on an immigrant. A Pakistan national was stabbed last night at Attiki train station. According to Vima, the attack took place at around 23.30, with eye witnesses, confirming the assault and the fact that the attackers were Golden Dawn supporters. The victim was taken to hospital. A video, taken from a mobile phone has already been circulated, showing a number of youths kicking someone who is apparently on the floor.

As the video ends, two of the youths can clearly be heard talking, with one asking the other if he used his knife, with the assailant confirming this by saying "it went all the way in".  The incident is being investigated by the authorities, who hope the security cameras have caught the assault as well as the faces of those who commited it.


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Mon, 06/18/2012 - 10:49 | 2536201 WALLST8MY8BALL
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I dunno about the Greeks leaving - they never want to leave their brother's behind!

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:00 | 2536222 fightthepower
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Greeks defending their country from invasion. 

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:16 | 2536256 MillionDollarBonus_
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Contrary to libertarian dogma, the global economic slowdown was NOT caused by people who voted to borrow money against future generations. This is a lie propagated by the super-rich (the 1%) and adopted by sycophantic libertarians. The problem is, very few people understand that the true cause of this crisis was Credit Default Swaps

Here's the secret that the rich don't want you to know:

A Credit Default Swap (or CDS) is a two party OTC agreement, in which the issuer receives a series of payments in return for insuring an underlying asset against default. These CDS agreements occur within dark TOTALLY UNREGULATED OTC market without ANY oversight by smart, well-meaning regulators who have dedicated their lives to looking out for the little guy. This is the cause of the crisis, and therefore I refuse to take ANY responsibility for the debt.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:28 | 2536307 CPL
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Don't know why you got junked, CDS's and the endless streams of derivative and unfunded liability exposure is exactly how this started..or pardon is going to end.


The surface debts of 15 trillion here, 8 trillion nothing in comparison to the underlying horror of completely unfunded debt sitting in the derivatives cesspool.  I think world wide we are up to 2. Quadrillion dollars now are something that insane.


Hobos with no debt, half a bottle of hooch and five in their pockets are more solvent than the holders of CDS nuclear material.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 14:26 | 2536921 lasvegaspersona
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MDB got junked because he is MDB..period

most junk him before they read...

you've been on site long enough to know that.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:31 | 2536319 tocointhephrase
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"well-meaning regulators who have dedicated their lives to looking out for the little guy"

Tickled! Thanks for that MDB, just when the day was becoming a total bore, with nothing happening due to the global depression, you come along and make me laugh. Thanks again!

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:03 | 2536428 riley martini
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 MDB if in CDS you mean corruption mortgage fraud, securties fraud . An economy priced on fraud the price will revert to reality. Two million fraudulent mortgages a year with multible layers of fraudulent securities priced to extend to fraud . Instead of recognizing the fraud the party heads having participtated in the fraud are trying to paper over the fraud . Housing priced at the height of the most fraud is the goal of the fascist media and their owners. It would make the fraud look like a temporary miss pricing .

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:58 | 2536622 CPL
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CDS's can be anything.  homes, cars, education...anything, it's a bet on a loan is all. 

Nothing fancy about it, person pays or they don't. 

There is a deeper level of complexity at race tracks around the world, difference is I don't know a bookie that would accept credit in the same vein.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:27 | 2536304 Gully Foyle
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Mrs.Carberry: Fecking Greeks!

Colm: It isn't the Greeks, it's the Chinese he's after.

Father Ted: I'm not after the Chinese!

Mrs.Carberry:I don't care who he gets as long as I can have a go at the Greeks. They invented gayness!

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:06 | 2536658 OldPhart
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ba-dum-dump!  Tip your waiters.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:14 | 2536681 eddiebe
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So naughty 8ball, but good for a chuckle!!

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 10:50 | 2536205 derek_vineyard
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austerity forced on people, but hubris for corporate execs and politicos

how does it feel being a slave?  you do realize you are one, don't you?

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 10:54 | 2536213 Stackers
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Greece puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:14 | 2536259 johnnyyuma
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Ben would do Bernake

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:49 | 2536590 vato poco
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Stackers wins the thread. Much better than 'Germany saying I'm having an old friend for dinner.'

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 10:51 | 2536206 Jethro
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As the video ends, two of the bankers can clearly be heard talking, with one asking the other if he used his debt instrument, with the assailant confirming this by saying "it went all the way in".

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:15 | 2536472 DaveyJones
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just one incision?

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 10:51 | 2536207 junkyardjack
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Didn't they just vote for austerity yesterday?

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:18 | 2536274 flyweight
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Obviously "they" did not vote for austerity. It was a close election, and in all age groups from 18 until 55 years old the Syriza (anti-austerity) party was very much ahead of ND. It was in the 55+ age group that ND really crashed Syriza, gaining 39% of the pensioners' (or soon-to-be pensioners) vote versus 20%.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:23 | 2536709 geekgrrl
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That was the most fascinating and telling aspect of the election for me. Someone (I think it was John Aziz) said that Greece's inverted population pyramid reduces the likelihood for intergenerational conflict, but I think just the opposite and I think the election results support that view. The elderly basically said to youth: we want to stay in the EZ so our pensions are paid, and we want you kids to pay for it the rest of your lives. That does not sound like a recipe for reduced intergenerational conflict to me.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 10:52 | 2536209 mrkolice
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just slightly off the topic. this is john milios's academic bibliography. he is one of the leading syriza's economists. the titles of his articles seem, well, you judge. and he can write in german.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 10:56 | 2536212 Azannoth
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IMO Legitimate self defense, those immigrants will not learn to stay out till they bleed, well they made them bleed, that should be a lesson to others to STAY the FAK OUT or to go crawl back under the rock they came from

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:32 | 2536324 Bob
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There must be a way to weave this into a finely principled rationale for Zero Government.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:38 | 2536338 Almost Solvent
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But everyone would act in a voluntary and fair manner. No need for police or courts, don't ya know.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:56 | 2536406 the tower
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Following this logic all the Greek immigrants all over the world should be stabbed to stay the FAK OUT and go back to Greece?

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:53 | 2536606 Azannoth
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Obviously my logic is a bit more complicated than that but I would be wasting time trying to explain it to people who's world view depends on them not understanding it in the 1st place

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:17 | 2536686 Cathartes Aura
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oh no, please, do explain to us simpletons, explain how a random stabbing attack of a pakistani guy by a mob of young greek males in any way helps their nationstate - a country that exists mainly as a tourist destination - aka non-nationals traveling to spend money which supposedly helps the local economy.

please do explain to me how these low lifes are being all patriotic and clever, and while you're at it, explain how they knew for a fact that the man they randomly attacked as a mob, how they knew what this man was in greece for - did they follow him for a week or so?  did they interview him on why he was in greece? 

or did they just see a paki and attack, as a mob, outnumbered, random violence?

do tell.

and while you're typing, can you also explain to me how the greek lads talking about "having to leave their country to go find work/money in OTHER countries" are any different than the man that was attacked.


Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:26 | 2536715 AnAnonymous
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It is different because they are US citizens.

When immigrating, they will teach the locals how to debauche an economy and when done, blame it on a third party.

US citizen style.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:51 | 2536798 Creepy Lurker
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Hey one-track, they are Greeks.

You are clearly insane.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 14:19 | 2536893 AnAnonymous
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A US citizen ('American') is a proponent of US citizenism ('Americanism')

Get on the page.

And now that you know, well, show your mental sanity.

Even though the only thing you are going to manage to show is your US citizenism.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 15:49 | 2537172 prole
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I wonder why all the Commies came out for this one thread.

Must be of particular interest hm Comrade??

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 22:28 | 2538228 Hive Raid
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AnAnonymous is our local schizophrenic. If we were all neighbors, he'd be the raggedy negro wrapped in newspapers sitting on the bus bench in the rain, muttering about "US citizens". It's just what he does. In fact, his daily posts probably originate from a warm dry library somewhere.

Equally amusing is that he always lures some well-meaning rube into responding, which undoubtedly touches his deep pleasure circuits, exciting him about the prospect of future conversations on US Citizenism.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 10:55 | 2536214 Conman
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jsut tell them greek yut's to take the money the robbed from the guy and buy US stocks. Always up courtesy the PPT.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 10:57 | 2536215 BigPerm
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What was up with that Richards dig on twitter last night? When is this guy gonna turn? Definitely part of the disinformation campaign. However, still in infiltrate mode.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 10:57 | 2536216 GeneMarchbanks
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Immigrants get attacked for being immigrants in the Western nations just as well or are simply relegated to the ghettos.

Why even run this garbage?


Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:01 | 2536226 Azannoth
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Wrong! immigrants naturally and totally willingly group together in closed communities that form ghettos, ghettos are not created specifically for them nor is any1 forcing them to live there, get your facts straight!

Ghettos are a product of the immigrants themselves

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:22 | 2536289 Gully Foyle
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Except for the Ghetto's where people are forced to live.

You are entirely untrue regarding Native Americans and the Ghetto's, reservations, they were forced on.

Same is true with Blacks. Older deeds clearly state that homes could not be sold to Black families limiting areas where they could reside.

I would imagine the same holds true to every immigrant, and anyone outside the statistical norm of the presiding culture, of nearly every nationality at some point.

You might wish to research what the Israeli's did to the Palestinians, and some of the areas the European Gypsies are forced to live. And the immigrant camps in places like France and Australia.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:09 | 2536446 Creepy Lurker
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I call BS.

1. Native Americans are not immigrants, they are aborigines. While I agree they were not treated nicely, they are not relevant to the subject at hand.

2. Racial covenants were outlawed in the 60's they are not relevant today. Blacks can and do live anywhere they like, and have done so for half a century.

3. What you imagine is simply that, and not a statement of fact.

4. Israel is completely irrelevant to this subject. The Jews were the "immigrants" (actually invaders) who basically treated the Palestinians like Native Americans. Again, irrelevant to this subject.

5. Gypsies set up camp anywhere they like and no one says a word to them about it. When Sarkozy made a single attempt to change this, he was roundly castigated for it. But don't take my word for this, ask any of the Europeans on here.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:21 | 2536488 AnAnonymous
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Absolutely. Rule out any counter examples and a general statement is unambiguously true.

US citizen style.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:43 | 2536564 Creepy Lurker
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If they were actual counter examples, they would not be so easily ruled out.

If all a person can come up with to counter an argument is thinner than toilet paper, shouldn't that give them a clue that their DNC talking points are invalid? This is what happens when you let someone else do your thinking for you.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:29 | 2536724 AnAnonymous
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If they were actual counter examples, they would not be so easily ruled out


Huh no. All it takes is US citizens and their power of denial.

US citizens are able to deny the most immediate reality. Hard to find a counter example they cant dismiss.

If you have one in store, shoot it.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:52 | 2536805 Creepy Lurker
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I know you are, but what am I?



Mon, 06/18/2012 - 14:20 | 2536896 AnAnonymous
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Easy: a US citizen.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 16:48 | 2537373 akak
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Hey Zhouseph MaoCarthy, just how long have you been president of the Committee on Un-UnAmerican Activities, anyway?

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 00:16 | 2538525 Poor Grogman
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Free Tibet!

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:47 | 2536578 Disenchanted
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I think all Western countries should follow the great example set by Israel just last week...


Israel said on Monday it had started rounding up African migrants in the first stage of a controversial "emergency plan" to intern and deport thousands deemed a threat to the Jewish character of the state.


The USA should start with that portion of the three percent that are a threat to our Gentile character here in the 'land of the free'


and then lets send this busybody to Israel...seems her message is needed there more than in Sweden.

Barbara Spectre is a US-born Jewess who is waging a racial campaign against Swedish people in particular and European people in general through the promotion of multiculturalism and demographic genocide. She is a hardline Zionist and supports Jewish-racial chauvinism in occupied-Palestine, while at the same time she promotes multiculturalism against Europeans in their own homeland.


Do as we say not as we do...

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:46 | 2536777 otto skorzeny
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israel is probably using US "Foreign Aid"to support this Jewess

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:58 | 2536417 the tower
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You mean Greek Town in Toronto for instance?


Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:02 | 2536227 uno
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I'm glad the video was shown, it exposes cowards always seem to work in gangs, just like in the US.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 10:59 | 2536220 mayhem_korner
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Exodus of the people is the reciprocal of infusion of a bailout.  Only difference is the scenery.  The country is toast.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:00 | 2536221 Red Heeler
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Leave . . . . and go where?

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:05 | 2536230 Azannoth
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Well Germany is FULL with Arabs and Africans so there is no place for Greeks here, as much as I would prefer to replace every negro here with a Greek! But according to the Cultural Marxists only 3rd world immigration is good immigration, while white immigrants are not welcome, seems diversity is a one way street

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:26 | 2536301 Red Heeler
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Your account makes one wonder if Germany is the victim of unintended consequences. On the other hand, if The Banksters see profits in making Germany the melting pot of the Eurozone the long term consequences for Germany are, to them, inconsequential.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:32 | 2536313 Ghordius
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? Germany hosts the biggest diaspora of Greeks in Europe, some 300k.

Germany is, together with Australia, one of the main emigration destinations of Greeks. see

fact is, there are not many Greeks to start with

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:27 | 2536716 Cathartes Aura
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you know what else is a "one way street" Azannoth? 

white invasion of african nations.  there's some history there, everyone likes to gloss over.

but hey, at least you're honest here, about your, shall we say, preferences.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:06 | 2536235 fightthepower
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Back home?

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:13 | 2536255 mayhem_korner
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The Emerald City. 

Orbitz is running specials on one-way flying monkeys.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:04 | 2536229 asteroids
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Is the son responsible for the "sins of the father" ? Of course not. The Greek youth will have to live up to the reality that they need to create their own future. Probably out of the EU, at least for a while. Greece is broke. Default now, and give the future a chance.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:20 | 2536281 MachoMan
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Exactly.  There is considerable hypocracy here.  If "austerity" is improper because the debts are odious and made by predecessor generations' idocy, then how does one also get to partake in the infrastructure that was built from that debt and idiocy?  Can't eat your cake and have it too...  

In legal terms...  at some point...  this is called ratification.

Time to roll up the sleeves sand get some dirt under the fingernails...  the free lunch is over.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 21:50 | 2538101 Matt
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asteroids: And how exactly, in a democracy where the demographics favor the status quo, would the youths achieve this? If the power is in the hands of the majority that do not want to default, and want the youth to keep paying the debts?

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:05 | 2536232 Village Smithy
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I was kind of wondering what the "security guard" was doing loitering around watching.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:32 | 2536322 TyCarrerra
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No kidding. I guess he figures he's put on enough work by putting on his uniform and walking around.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:37 | 2536335 Bob
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See no evil, hear no evil.  Reminds me of the law enforcement personnel, uniformed and otherwise, in the great USA. 

Unless you're of the wrong color, of course.

In that case, those in the uniforms are the thugs.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:06 | 2536236 savagegoose
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anywhere unemploymen tbenefits are more than $400 euro a  month

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:07 | 2536238 eclectic syncretist
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Equity markets are about to tank, and tank hard over the coming couple of months through earnings season.  Mark this post and call me out if I'm wrong.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:57 | 2536412 paulbain
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I agree, UNLESS the Federal Reserve begins implementing QE3 (or an equivalent) very, very soon.

-- Paul D. Bain



Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:07 | 2536239 Dr. Engali
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The Greeks are fricking retards. Complaining because they are getting more of the same, but they vote for more of the same.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:12 | 2536252 eddiebe
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If indeed that is what they voted for.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:21 | 2536284 Sgt. Oddball
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Considering the level of corruption that exists in every level of government or the banks and corporations that control the media that is suppose to oversee government in all Western Countries, do you honestly believe the outcome of any elections are not already pre-determined?

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:26 | 2536300 Dr. Engali
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They are still voting,and they are still saying they want to stay in the European union with all the "benefits" that come with it.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:39 | 2536339 Bob
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Do you know if they share our embrace of electronic voting?


Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:36 | 2536744 Cathartes Aura
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one day there will be a "light bulb" moment for some here, and they'll make the connections between all they complain about happening in amrka, all the corruption and corporate governance, etc etc - is a global problem, specifically existing in most western (white) nations, but extending the tentacles to everywhere with a usury-banking-system, backed by corporate government and their uni-formed military.

apply whatever label you like - but realise that it's infecting the whole world. . .

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 14:20 | 2536899 Disenchanted
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speaking of a global problem, and this is sort of off topic, but I thought you might like this CA:


William Irwin Thompson writes, in The Time Falling Bodies Take To Light:


For hundreds of thousands of years the culture of women and women's mysteries had been the dominant ideology of humanity. The hominization of the primates in the shift from estrus was a feminine transformation. The rise of a lunar notation and the beginnings of an observed periodicy upon which all human knowledge is based was a feminine creation. Agriculture and the rise of sedentary villages and towns were feminine creations. But civilization and warfare were not; they spelled the end for the Great Mother.... So recent, so revolutionary is that struggle that to this day men have not forgotten, and the slightest stirring of the ancient mother can send them running for their swords and guns.

Thompson then quotes CS Lewis, who names, and owns, in Surprised by Joy our civilization's still anxious state of perpetual revolution: the hive and the anthill we see fully realized the two things that some of us most dread for our own species - the dominance of the female and the dominance of the collective.



That's a brief excerpt from this(from Sept. 11, 2011):


We Are The Monsters We've Been Waiting For

by Jeff Wells @ Rigorous Intuition


The quote at the top of that sez this:


Our civilized world is nothing but a great masquerade. You encounter knights, parsons, soldiers, doctors, lawyers, priests, philosophers and a thousand more: but they are not what they appear - they are merely masks.... Usually, as I say, there is nothing but industrialists, businessmen and speculators concealed behind all these masks. - Schopenhauer

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 21:14 | 2537994 Cathartes Aura
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heya Disenchanted - busy day outside for me, but I'm glad I looked back at the thread, your link to Rigorous Intuition is proving to be a very good read!  there's a mind that works similar to mine, taking in lots of information from many interesting places and making random connections (seemingly) - particularly like this,

When we adapt to a new cultural phenomenon, including the use of a new medium, we end up with a different brain.... That means our online habits continue to reverberate in the workings of our brain cells even when we’re not at a computer. We’re exercising the neural circuits devoted to skimming and multitasking while ignoring those used for reading and thinking deeply.

I'm most likely going to give the 'webs a break for a few weeks this summer, as I've been feeling ^this^ very strongly - how the distractions of web-surfing is messin' with my neurals, and that's a part of "me" that I'm particularly protective of.

the other quote in your post - I've read a few people who also mine that vein, the "matriarchy" predates "patriarchy" story - my particular fave on that is Leonard Schlain's The Alphabet vs. The Goddess - he also has chapters on how the internet is working with the right-brain to "balance" out the culturally lopsided favouring of the left-brain - the ole "logic vs. intuition" - which culture likes to push as "male-logic" vs. "female-intuition/emotion" - I'm of the mind that people vary more than the "man vs. woman" culture story gives credence to, as anyone who reads my posts & rolls their eyes can attest, ha.

again, thanks for the link - even as I try to break my interwebs reading habits, I add another blog author to my list!!

take care.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 03:41 | 2538707 Disenchanted
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glad you liked that CA, but in regards to:


I add another blog author to my list!!


Mr. Wells has been on hiatus since he wrote that column.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 14:00 | 2540184 Cathartes Aura
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ah yes, but he has left behind some great reading clicks - hopefully we keep the 'nets up long enough for me to tap into them over time!

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:09 | 2536241 killallthefiat
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Governments have not been defending the borders of southern Europe for decades (and the southern US too).


This is the plan: to break down the nation state.  Violence against immigrants is not the answer.  People need to simply gain control of their government again.  Gaining control of the government solves all kinds of issues like immigration policy, wasteful spending, central banking, and on and on.

"Citizens" need to get control of governments in Greece, the US, Russia, China, France, Spain, you name it.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:12 | 2536251 Azannoth
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That is a Sound Theory,.... however will never work in practice

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:27 | 2536305 karp4cy
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The immigration floodgates have been thrown open not because of neglect, but due to the realization that native birthrates would not support the continued entitlement Ponzi.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:44 | 2536361 Mitzibitzi
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Precisely. Politicians promised everyone a relatively early retirement on a decent pension, with good salaries / benefits paid throughout working life to boot, in exchange for votes... then the government accountants sent them the bill for all that.

There's also the native stupidity that led TPTB to forget that the most effective form of birth control is to give someone a decent standard of living. When you've got money (OK, fiat!) in your pockets, knocking out a tribe of whining, resource-draining kids falls rather further down the list of priorities.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:44 | 2536770 Cathartes Aura
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which dovetails rather nicely with history, in that white european colonisation expanded outwards, taking over the banking & resources of other nations, sucking up "wealth" with nary a peep from those loyal citizens back "home" - but when the purity of those who fed off the largesse of others is seemingly threatened, all hell breaks loose.

oh yes, close the borders now folks!  just know the Trojan Horse is not the peoples trying to find a way to make a living, it was the usury banking system all along. . .

cui bono?

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:10 | 2536247 eddiebe
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This all works out great for the banksters. Instead of people venting their anger on them, who are the real reason all this austerity nonsense is coming down, the anger is vented on foreigners or ethnic groups or Jews or seniors. Nothing new and so sad.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:43 | 2536357 Bob
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Retarded cunts will always demonstrate their ignorance and corwardice in picking on the weak and isolated rather than targeting those in power. 

Why not take out a banker at lunch today?

These punks are just pathetic worms finding rapture in empty gestures of hypermasculinity. 

Imagine what their fathers are like.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:11 | 2536249 irie1029
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Greece just kicked the can down the road a bit.  IMO the yutes have come to the realization they have no control over their destiny.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:12 | 2536253 Alpacanio
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Oh, don't worry my youth. The NWO has a job waiting for you. WAR!

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:47 | 2536375 Mitzibitzi
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Might be educational to take a look at which 3rd World countries have had a load of half-decent weapons sold to them recently - I suspect they'll figure quite high on the NWO target list. You have to arm the fuckers first, obviously, as there can't be a war if only one side has weapons to fight it.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:52 | 2536800 Cathartes Aura
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indeed, they sell the weaponry, creating the massive debts that guarantee invasions, guarantee expensive wars where the "spoils" go to the "victor" - the resultant decrease in the nation's herds?

bonus points.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:12 | 2536254 spiral galaxy
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Obama will welcome the Greeks with open arms, free housing, free education, weekly paycheck, etc., as long as they take up residence in Florida and register ...Dem, of course.... to vote.   Italian immigrants will be welcomed in Ohio. Spainards in Colorado.......etc.  So basically, he needs to fill up approx 11 swing states.  Yea, that's the ticket!!!.......and Congress be damned! :-)

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:14 | 2536257 agent default
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I notice a distinct irritation from all sides with Golden Dawn.  It is acceptable to be a Marxist, Maoist, Stalinist, but when it comes to the far right, everyone is out against them.  Why is that I wonder?

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:38 | 2536280 Azannoth
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In Germany we have those guys that call them selves Antifa(Anti-Fascists) you can see their Graffiti everywhere, they are basically neo-marxist brown shirts and they will beat the crap out of you, and yes even stab you if you display the slightest sign of being a Nationalist or even worse a Skinhead or Nazi, you never hear about them beating stabbing and even killing people on the News even though they frequently do, and if you do hear about them that it's always spun as if they got attacked and whoever attacked(got beaten up by them) is labeled a neo-nazi regardless

and I can tell you this, nobody in Germany cries about beaten or dead neo-nazi's(or people labeled as such) and probably 9 out of 10 people called neo-nazi are anything but they simply get the short end of the stick for being too outspoken about certain taboo's

Case in Point -> Me, probably most of you think I am a Nazi even though I would probably fight nazi's as much as you would if it came to be, however all I do is to stand up for my self, my place of birth, my culture and my Race and I do not want to see those things destroyed by 3rd world invaders or perverted by yids

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 17:01 | 2537412 20-20 Hindsight
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Wow! This is a seriously fucked up world we live in. You just proved it.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:20 | 2536282 20-20 Hindsight
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Golden Dawn and Neo-Nazis stand for racism, cruelty, injustice, intolerance and gratuitous violence against innocent people.  Do you still wonder? 

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:53 | 2536395 agent default
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While the leftist clusterfuck supporters of Pol Pot, Erich Honecker,  Nicolae Ceau?escu,  and other highly acclaimed humanitarians and supporters of the rights and property of innocent people are examples of tolerance, non violence and justice right?  Yet they are accepted.  Hell you are not even supposed to contradict them, then you are a far right lunatic.  And don't ever mention that Stalin killed more people than Hitler.  Then you are a Nazi, and in any case it is irrelevant because two wrongs don't make a right, or some other crap.  If the are accepted, and they are, then the likes of Golden Dawn are the only counter weight against them.  Get used to the militant far right, they are here to stay, and it was the universal tolerance to the far left and their extremist nonsense that brought them in.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 21:24 | 2541558 The Age of Usef...
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The free world crushed fascism a long time ago, and we will crush your skulls again. Count on it.

Also, would you like to post some numbers of victims of capitalist nations historically, say during periods of World Wars, Imperialism, genocides and/or Colonialism?

Otherwise some people might think you are cherrypicking here, refusing to look at universal problematic aspects of human nature in order to fit a subset of the facts to your ideology. Just saying.

Sat, 06/23/2012 - 12:13 | 2553503 agent default
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"crush your skulls again"

Ah yes, a note of non violence, tolerance, non arbitrary judgement, coherent speech and above all historical accuracy, by another one, of the historically illiterate, of the Left.

But lets see now (posting numbers):

People's Republic of China, Mao Zedong's regime (1949-1975) body count:40,000,000(that's conservative)

Soviet Union, Stalin's regime (1924-53): body count: 20,000,000

So the policies of your two posterboys already add up to almost 90% of the entire WWII casualties.

And of course you will never hear the Red Scumbags talk about their secret poster boy.

Cambodia, Pol Pot 1963 – 1981: 1,700,000 to 2,500,000 (about 15-25% of the population). MONSTER KILL right here.

North Korea: 1948-eternity?  Nothing is known, very little gets out.  Hey, where are your "Human rights" sensitivities to this one?  Anybody ever hear one of these leftists even say a word about the Dear Heavenly Leader?

Historical Flashback, way  over your head:

In WWII both the French Communist Party and the Greek Communist party issued manifestos not to fight against Hitler.  The "Porquoi?" movement mean anything to you?  That was because of the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact, you know, when Stalin and Hitler both invaded Poland?  The Left turned anti Nazi after operation Barbarossa. Apart from that, yeah, you crushed their sculls.  Through the Lend - Lease agreement, made with the "Imperialist, genocidal, Capitalists" (Free World). 

And another thing: Fascism and Nazism are both statist in terms of their political orientation and socialist in terms of their economic policy.  So you can take your bullshit and go bark up your own damn tree.

Get it through your head jackass, the rise of the militant far right is the direct reaction to lunatics like you, who are always "unaware" of their methods and "achievements" whenever they came to power.  You are liars, it is trivial and takes very little research to uncover the truth,  and you always turn threatening, abusive and violent when confronted with the facts.  This naturally leads people to turn to parties with the opposite political views,  but get this, these parties lately also use the same methods as the left. 

As in, if you try the usual crap, of trying to shout them down,  threatening to "crush our sculls" (I assume mine and everybody elses who happens to agree that the Left if full of it? Charming.) for merely making an observation about the escalation  of political tensions , they will slap you down, they will take your usual escalation tactics and push them a step further in your face. And that's what draws ordinary people to the militant right.  People who did not agree with you, never did, and never said anything because they were silenced by your tactics.  You built up the pressure all those years, now handle it.

Just saying.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:23 | 2536288 Vigilante
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...because the Left controls the public discourse these days..

..esp in Europe.

Also the NWO subscribes to cultural Marxism's totems, ie Feminism ,anti racism,pro gay,pro nature,anti-christian etc.


Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:15 | 2536265 semperfi
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The end of the Euro will come only by civil unrest and/or war: The Youth vs The Establishment.  Initial odds - Youth 5:1

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:34 | 2536329 insanelysane
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The kill immigrants because immigrants are the problem yet to solve their problem they want to be immigrants somewhere else.  Sounds perfectly logical to me.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:42 | 2536350 AnAnonymous
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This is very logical.

We are never immigrants. The world belongs to us.

Signed: a US citizen.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:43 | 2536359 AnAnonymous
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As I monitor the new wave of colonization triggered by US citizens, I wonder where the Greeks would head for:

Australia and Germany.

That is the locations.

They will be welcomed.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:52 | 2536389 Bob
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C'mon, just say it: US Citizenism.

Such creative stuff, neologisms:

In psychiatry, the term neologism is used to describe the use of words that have meaning only to the person who uses them, independent of their common meaning.This is considered normal in children, but a symptom of thought disorder (indicative of a psychotic mental illness, such as schizophrenia) in adults.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:08 | 2536439 Alpha Monkey
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Until they become regularly used, then it's no longer crazy.  Cool thing about the english language, it has infinite combinations and continually sprouts new vocab.  Ever have one of those teachers that objected to the use of the word aint because "it wasn't in the dictionary"... times change.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:17 | 2536476 AnAnonymous
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Ummmmm, you might be on something with this as it is quite common, especially for US citizens living in the US to behave the way you depict but on this case, you guess what, US citizenism has no common meaning.

US citizenism at work.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:13 | 2536640 Bob
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Try reading it again.  The absence of any common meaning was the point.  Get some meds.  You do nothing but bark at the moon and call it US Citizenism.  Look, your glorious terminology clearly ain't gonna take off--the astounding generosity of the many US Citizens who have shown such great tolerance of your rantings notwithstanding.

If you had any good faith or good intentions, I'd sympathize with you.  But I'm tired of giving the "benefit of the doubt" where there is no doubt. 

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:46 | 2536779 AnAnonymous
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In psychiatry, the term neologism is used to describe the use of words that have meaning only to the person who uses them, independent of their common meaning


Independent of their common meaning. As your own quote read.

As to US citizenism, the use of it has been explained long ago.

It means the same as 'Americanism' It points at the very same thing as 'Americans'

US citizenism includes dilution of responsibility, usually achieved by broadening the base of the responsible agents.

For example, 'Americans' wont tell they act this way because they are 'Americans' but because it is human nature. They are diluting their specific responsibility into a wider base.

It is how it works.

'Americanism' proceeds of the same: it refers to all Americans. Mayans were Americans. Their set of beliefs can be called as well Americanism. Were they proponents of 'Americanism'? Not at all.

US citizenism with all its flaws narrow the target onto the proper aim.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 23:08 | 2538351 TheFourthStooge-ing
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AnAnonymous left us with this roadside dropping:

Independent of their common meaning. As your own quote read.

As to US citizenism, the use of it has been explained long ago.

You'll need to keep explaining it every time you use it, because "US citizenism" has no common meaning. Just because it is an integral part of the insanitation within your cranium doesn't mean you can blob it up and project it onto the exterior world.

But hey, insanitation is as AnAnonymousism does. Eternal nature on exhibit.

US citizenism with all its flaws narrow the target onto the proper aim.

More crackpottery from the master stonedmason of French Indo-Chinese Antarctic citizenism. Made me laugh.

AnAnonymousitizenism at work and on shameful display.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:51 | 2536797 AnAnonymous
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If you had any good faith or good intentions, I'd sympathize with you. But I'm tired of giving the "benefit of the doubt" where there is no doubt.

Sympathy for what?

Generosity? Nope. No US citizen has managed to produce any argument on the merit of US citizenism.

US citizens can not develop an argumentation from within US citizenism. They have to refer to an exterior.

For example, they can not argumentate on the very fact that as they proclaimed freedom a human right, they kept slaves.

Suddenly, they have to refer either to an exterior through sequences of non sequitur (the others did bad) or refer to fantasy (like chinese citizenism)

Please provide argumentations from within 'Americanism' Once done, you might consider if you are virtuous enough to provide sympathy or being tired of giving the benefit of doubt.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 17:11 | 2537450 akak
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Bob said about AnusAnonymous:

You do nothing but bark at the moon and call it US Citizenism.

What is even worse, he constantly barks at the moon even when it is not in the sky --- and then accuses the sun, stars and clouds of being the invisible moon, self-justifying his incessant and mindless barking.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 23:17 | 2538382 TheFourthStooge-ing
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akak said:

What is even worse, he constantly barks at the moon even when it is not in the sky --- and then accuses the sun, stars and clouds of being the invisible moon, self-justifying his incessant and mindless barking.

This is what AnAnonymous literally means when he says that 'US citizenism' is blobbing up to the stars and beyond. In the swirling morass of insanitation that is his world, he literally believes that Mars, Venus, and stars are shaking their heads at him in a cosmic conspiracy of 'US citizenism'.

He clings to this sickness because it shields him from confronting his hatred for humanity.

His sickness will compel him to deny all of this.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 21:16 | 2541532 The Age of Usef...
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Neologism, psychiatry, symptom, psychotic, schizofrenia. All Greek words.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:56 | 2536407 iamme
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The USA is bitching and moaning with ~3-4% "illegal aliens", while Greece has 20-25%.


Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:33 | 2536531 malek
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Yes, and imagine the US to have 0% illegal aliens per presidential decree tomorrow, how you could then accuse them of bitching and moaning!

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:15 | 2536468 iamme
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The video doesn't show much, and you can't hear what is supposedely said.


Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:15 | 2536470 WhiteNight123129
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Greeks should stop their bullshit, kick your politicians all of them specially Golden Dawn. Hire one Auditor, 4 accountants to run teh country, default on the debt, abolish all forms of Government subsidies pensions or what have you. Cut everything to the bone, lower taxes to 2.8% of GDP (like the US in 1900), introduce Gold and Silver. Abolish the central bank, and have banks circulate their own bank notes. Just one piece of regulation, an unlimited call on capital for the partners of the new banks. In exchange for this unlimited liability by bankers, very low tax rates on bank earnings. The problem is government and political parties and ~democracy~, as the English put it in XIX when they saw the United States they were afraid it would turn into the return of barbarism through democracy. They were right. You do not need more than an auditor and a few accountants to run a country.


Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:21 | 2536489 potlatch
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It is all fun and games until the people start to get all kinds of strange co-sympathetic allergic reactions and symptoms, like, oh you know, despair, riots, alcoholism, etc.



People largely do not ask to be born into this world; only the children of the wealthy act as if they did, and were accepted, and thus are assured priority seating.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:28 | 2536510 bigwavedave
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Average Salary were I live is 75 Euro per month - less 22% tax. Welcome to the future bitchez

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:34 | 2536536 Eurodollar
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Abroad? Where should they go? It is not like they will get a job in Cyprus (which for many would be first choice). They will not get a job in Spain. Maybe in Malta? Eh, no. Germany? How many greeks speak german? Not many. Scandinavia? Nopes. Shall everyone go to the UK? Don't think so, they got their own mess to sort out soon enough, and they know it.

The greeks need to get a tad more angry. Get out of the Euro chains. Take the pain there and then, let Germany go on tilt as well as a hoard of pinstripes.. So ist das leben; kurz und Schmutzig. The country is small enough as a economy to regroup. They may never get to the standard where Germans, Austrians, Dutch and Finns paid them to do little and still buy all the stuff they never needed, but it will give them a decent life. At the very least a start.

Go Greece go!

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:52 | 2536804 AnAnonymous
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They go to Australia and Germany.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 21:07 | 2541515 The Age of Usef...
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And London. Most Greek youth speak at least one foreign language proficiently.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:01 | 2536634 merscrusher
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although the idiots in the video need to be crushed...the idea that anyone in the video is "clearly" saying anything is

just some nonsense put forth by a third rate newspaper in athens...the person speaking is talking with a friend on the cellphone about which train they are going to take...and other than someone screaming "help", there is nothing that can be made out in greek about what anyone is saying...exposing the advarks with this "krakhead dawn" and other political prostitutes is fine, but please have someone who actually speaks greek verify that there is no such CLARITY in the soundtrack...

but as to "greek youth"...well, greece is really a mix of zimbabwe and syria, with an education system dominated by left over KKE fools who are expecting Breshnev to rise up from his grave and lead everyone to poverty...I mean social justice...whatever that means...really sad...biff and potter must be very happy, the notion that the average greek has zero clue how the modern financial world clue what a derivative is, no notion of how a securitization works, no idea how to...look...most greeks dont even have checking accounts...they get in line to pay their bills...electric, etc...there is no mailing of billings for you to send with a self addressed postage paid is like living in the USA in the early 1970's...truly amusing if not so sad...


but...greeks cant get a job anywhere one anywhere globally gives any value to the worthless university degrees handed out in greece just for showing up in class...the greeks would not get jobs anywhere else in the world, with their purpetual need to debate to insure they do no real work.  Greeks may put in a large number of hours somewhere...but they aint working...

and worse...they are not working together...they love to trip each other up...very sad...

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 20:59 | 2541491 The Age of Usef...
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You don't know what you are talking about. When was the last time you've been there, WWII? Their education system is pretty good, above average for western nations and much better than what the US has. They also learn at least two foreign languages and math/physics that in many countries is above freshman university level. And Greeks do get lots of jobs, their degrees are not considered worthless, in fact you'll find so many in high-paying jobs in London and in Germany that you would be surprised. Many professors as well, in the best universities in the world. I know a few personally, one of them is Nobel material.

Now, compare this with the average American, say guys like you who can't even construct a proper paragraph or sentence, and you might realise that an education is not "understanding how a securitization works" or "what a derivative is", especially now that we have all seen what great wonders these financial "innovations" have done to the world economy. Besides, does the average American have a clue how the modern financial world works? You think you do? I can tell you first-hand that there are some very strong traders in London who are Greek. And no, in Greece they do have mailing of billings and guess what, they also have internet banking! Wow!

You might consider stopping thinking in stereotypes and live in the real world, maybe travel a bit. By that I don't mean staying in a Hilton hotel overlooking a city but to go out and meet people. In the European south, you'll find something really interesting. Elders in remote villages who might not understand much about derivatives or MBS but who possess real-life wisdom, deep wisdom. Of the kind you are not likely to encounter in shopping malls.

My guess is you are Greek-American or know one of those who forgot their heritage. Too bad. I would take the Greeks' education in Classics anytime over your CNBC one.

Wed, 06/27/2012 - 18:48 | 2566719 nicxios
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Mon, 06/18/2012 - 13:05 | 2536653 Arnold Ziffel
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Violent crime in southern France and Italy are out of control. I was in Perugia last summer and saw a couple fo tourists beaten pretty badly even after they hadned over their money. And that was in the late afternoon.  The police are even afraid to go out at night. The US Embassy in Geneva warned its workers not to go out at night due to attackes from NA refugees.....

It's a new world. Ollie.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 15:21 | 2537092 mantrid
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wow! austerity is the problem! they have to change policy! like emm... start with CTRL+P ?! whoa that's gonna fix things! no one will be starving for 400EUR.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 16:24 | 2537272 pcrs
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Socialism is fundamentally a suicide cult, you either leave it or go down with the ship.

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 17:35 | 2537525 MS7
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If the corrupt people in government were able to fake the statistics regarding the deficit and supposedly fool the most powerful banks, couldn't they have faked the vote to make sure Golden Dawn did not enter Parliament? Not only are they a threat to democracy and morality, they will effect the Greek economy which depends on tourism... Apparently over 1/2 the police voted for them in the last election. So if there will be a crackdown on violence committed by them, who exactly will lead the crackdown? Who will stop these SOBs?

Mon, 06/18/2012 - 19:40 | 2537817 Hopeless for Change
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The guy saying it was "important for Greece to remain in the Eurozone" was also saying that "austerity is not the solution, it is the problem."   Hey dipshit, you can't have it both ways, despite what you feel you're entitled to.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 20:21 | 2541362 The Age of Usef...
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You still don't understand that austerity is killing the Greek economy with good businesses failing and unemployment going up, while revenues fall and the debt problem gets worse. All these guys want is a chance with a program that might actually work, because after 5 years in depression, austerity didn't work. And it never worked anywhere in a fixed exchange rate environment and an economy in recession, let alone depression. And calling young people who want to work and have a shot "dipshits" shows that you are a major asshole who probably thinks empathy is for pussies. Congratulations. Now go watch some TeVee to advance your education. Asswipe.

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