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Helmet time.

From Oanda

Due to the extreme volatility some market analysts foresee could result in the coming days, OANDA fxTrade will not accept any trading activity from 6:00 AM EST until approximately 3:00 PM EST, on Sunday, June 17, 2012. OANDA believes the convergence of a major market event during off-market hours represents a potential trading risk and has taken this rare step to protect traders from excessive rate fluctuations.

 

Please note that during this halt in trading, you can still access your account details but no trading activity will be accepted. For this reason, OANDA strongly recommends that all traders consider minimizing currency exposures prior to the trading halt.

 

If you do intend to maintain open positions during this period, be aware that OANDA will hold exchange rates steady during the trading halt. However, when trading resumes, rates will immediately adjust to the current market rate and it is possible that the updated rate could result in a margin closeout if the price has moved significantly against your positions.

 

Therefore, it is your responsibility to ensure you have adequate funds in your account to prevent a margin closeout.

 

OANDA apologizes for any inconvenience this may cause.

 

For more information, please contact a Customer Service representative.

 

Best regards,

 

The OANDA team

What do you get when you mix counterparty and agency risk, and throw in some currency collapse fear for good measure? This.

 

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Thu, 06/14/2012 - 01:05 | 2524616 a growing concern
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I thought the original was RoboTrader, not RobotTrader.  Could be wrong, though.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 10:13 | 2525446 fuu
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Nope, there is no RoboTrader. Or at least user search produces no results for that query.

Wed, 06/13/2012 - 23:21 | 2524456 newengland
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JNJ, great company, but I won't be buying it just now. Like your choice though.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 02:19 | 2524677 Maos Dog
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Looks to me like the action in jnj already happened, what do you see here? Not trolling, serious question.

Wed, 06/13/2012 - 23:14 | 2524438 knowshitsurelock
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Holy Schneikies!  That's gonna leave a mark.

Wed, 06/13/2012 - 23:16 | 2524442 q99x2
Wed, 06/13/2012 - 23:18 | 2524445 Dr. Engali
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Roubini is an idiot tool.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 08:59 | 2525106 therearetoomany...
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Last night on Cramer:  "I'm long Roubini, buy buy buy"

Wed, 06/13/2012 - 23:51 | 2524518 ThisIsBob
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And when they get there, they should buy lots of thingamajigs.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 01:51 | 2524650 Bunga Bunga
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Sure, Germans will love to go to Greece where they are greeted with Nazi flags and Merkel-as-Hitler posters.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 02:20 | 2524679 chump666
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haha he is losing it, like Goldman, like everyone...

He is somewhat off center.  Best thing for Greece is to go back to the Drachma and get the rich Scandinavians/Russia (energy resource countries) to holiday in Greece.

The Germans, nah they will be poor as poor once France goes.

Wed, 06/13/2012 - 23:18 | 2524446 Plumplechook
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What sort of trading platform disables it's client's ability to trade because of concerns about volatility?  Volatility is the lifeblood of trading - the very thing that any sensible trader craves.

OANDA is clearly some sort of amateur-hour outfit.  If I had an account with them I would be closing it immediately.

 

Wed, 06/13/2012 - 23:26 | 2524471 RobotTrader
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Futures are starting ramp up.

 

I smell an surprise announcement.

Wed, 06/13/2012 - 23:35 | 2524489 IndicaTive
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Are they really surprises anymore? The air smells of surprises all the time. Easpecially at bedtime.

Wed, 06/13/2012 - 23:52 | 2524508 Dr. Engali
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Right now I smell baked beans , deviled eggs, and beer because I just farted.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 00:02 | 2524540 CCanuck
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That might be your FB shares?

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 00:17 | 2524561 SMG
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I don't think that's what you're smelling.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 01:54 | 2524655 Bunga Bunga
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I just farted.

Wed, 06/13/2012 - 23:31 | 2524480 gatersaw
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Open 2 FX accounts with 400:1 leverage. Start clicking buy as fast as you can Sunday night on account number 1.
On account number 2 start clicking sell.
Walk away from the negative account and cash the winnings on the short EURUSD account. 

Wed, 06/13/2012 - 23:56 | 2524526 financial apoca...
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haha TPTB have no honor. Its like they have already lost in chess but will not admit checkmate so we have to take em out slowly, piece by piece.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 00:12 | 2524552 silverdragon
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WTF are people still doing in Dollars and dollar denominated investments? It's like Russian Roulette with a full mag.

Silver, Silver and more Silver.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 00:20 | 2524568 lasvegaspersona
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I quit Fx trading when the DB office in NY closed and stole $3,000 from me. I did not tend to the announcement for 4 weeks and when I called 'nobody knew nothin'...it was just gone. Germany's biggest bank stole my money. At that point I knew the end was near...and it is.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 00:41 | 2524594 Excursionist
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I have a personal account with OANDA and was only somewhat pissed when I received this e-mail notice today.

My overall takeaway:  tempest in a teapot.

As anyone with an account with this shop understands, you can trade 24x7 with them - even when markets are closed on the weekends.  The (obvious) cost to trading on the weekends is that spreads blow out.  OANDA may offer a 1.2 pip bid / ask spread on EUR/USD during market hours, but that spread could be 10 pips on Sundays before 3 PM EST.  I've never looked into the underlying mechanics, but OANDA's FX rates also fluctuate during off hours.

It seems they instituted this policy because whatever algo controls the off hours FX rate mid-points AND spread widths is expected to be flying blind while the sheep-fucking miscreants in Greece vote for a political doctrine that has over the decades failed repeatedly.  Bottom line is I'm keeping my positions open.  Be happy to follow-up with a post about hiccups in case anyone has passing interest.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 01:11 | 2524623 dogbreath
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This is strange.  " whadya mean I can't trade"  , be on the sidelines,  or don't get MF'd,  or how do I trade the big move, who cares I got gunz.

A big move has been telegraphed to the market/world.   Wierd.   Which way will the sheep run.   They are usually getting stampeded by the unknown and only a forensic chartist can do the post mortem.

Which way will the sheep run?

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 01:16 | 2524626 Duke of Con Dao
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don't worry... when the crash happens

I'll be aboard David Koch's yacht tooling around the 

Eastern seaboard...

here's a brief video snippet of his yacht in New York harbor 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EN88esNg40

...

watch it and Weep!!!

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 08:56 | 2525097 therearetoomany...
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Yeah, f those that succeed and take care of themselves.  #toomanyidiots

 

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 01:22 | 2524628 silverdragon
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As Europe and US crash, over here is Asia, we just keep buying those PM's.

No such things as too much Silver.

 

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 02:16 | 2524675 chump666
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Actually you are probably about to crash Germany once their exports choke off on your channel stuffing and overcapacity + major slowdown.

We are all in this together.

 

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 02:17 | 2524661 chump666
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And Germany is about to send the EZ bond markets into chaos:
--Rising bund yields suggest that Germany is now under pressure
--Investors are looking for more moves toward union
--Sentiment shift comes even before Greek election on Sunday

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 02:03 | 2524666 silverdragon
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Jeff Nielson says:

"Polyester sportswear already consumes 1,200 TONS of silver per year, which (at 32,000 ounces per ton) works out to over 38 million ounces of silver permanently consumed every year – in just one application. To put this into context, there are supposedly only 600 million ounces in total, global inventories at the moment."

American Eagle sales

2002 – 10,539,026 Bullion American Silver Eagles were sold.
2003 – 8,495,008 Bullion American Silver Eagles were sold.
2004 – 8,882,754 Bullion American Silver Eagles were sold.
2005 – 8,891,025 Bullion American Silver Eagles were sold.
2006 – 10,676,522 Bullion American Silver Eagles were sold.
2007 – 9,028,036 Bullion American Silver Eagles were sold.
2008 – 20,583,000 Bullion American Silver Eagles were sold.
2009 – 30,459,000 Bullion American Silver Eagles were sold.
2010 – 34,700,000 Bullion American Silver Eagle were sold.
2011 – 39,868,500 Bullion American Silver Eagle were sold.

So annual one ounce Silver Eagle sales are almost the same as the amount of Silver used to make polyester sportswear. And it is gone forever as used in production.

And there are about 10,000 industrial uses.

 

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 02:14 | 2524673 silverdragon
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Dr. Jeff Lewis says:

"A reasonable estimate is that roughly 1 billion ounces of silver currently exists above ground in investment grade form."

Guess we all should buy some Silver before there is none.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 02:42 | 2524696 Paul Thomason
Thu, 06/14/2012 - 02:52 | 2524703 PLove
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Looks like someone intends to coin silver.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 02:59 | 2524710 BlackholeDivestment
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...so what they really mean; time to divest from the black hole. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjiWDCga__s

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 03:02 | 2524714 janus
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here we go bitcheZ...big day today.

euro area sinkin like a ship

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 03:11 | 2524722 ebworthen
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Early weekend.

Going to have a nice Churchill to light up, and some good gin for a smashing martini.

I will dream of the SHTF for reals and dominoes falling to take down the banksters.

If I wake up Monday morning and it's the same bullshit I'm going to have to go shopping for more cigars and martini glasses.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 03:28 | 2524726 bob resurrected
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Oanda is probably smart. If most of thier clients are short the EUR and it ramps, they have fewer clients for the future. Everybody believes the EUR will tank. What does that tell you?

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 06:57 | 2524841 Non Passaran
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It tells me you are making assumptions, probably talking your book?

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 03:36 | 2524733 Thoresen
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Don't worry everyone. Just listened to Humphries on the Today programme interviewing Peston and banking association mouthpiece Angela Knight. Osborne is proposing 4% bank reserves to avoid risk of bank runs etc. Knight says 3% would be enough. She also says it's not of concern because of the £85 000 insurance provided by the banks. No mention or understanding of the effects of fractional reserve banking at 3% or 4%.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 03:45 | 2524736 Thoresen
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And the really weird thing about the interview was that Humphries got completely tied-up with the maths and uttered something about "For every £1 deposited the bank has £33"........ Peston quickly corrected him ......... but he was unwittingly describing the Fractional reserve effects generating free money for the banks!

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 04:01 | 2524743 falak pema
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oanda time is uganda time for forza Italia?

they play Croatia today...

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 05:23 | 2524771 acrabbe
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Someone please clue me in. I have been grinding on a major project the past few weeks and am not up to speed as I should be, considering I'm holding a sizeable options portfolio (way long silver, hedged) that I may need to liquidate. What's happening this weekend that's so integral to the euro? Pathetic I know, but it be's like that sometimes...

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 10:10 | 2525432 Loose Caboose
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Greek Election.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 05:33 | 2524777 Alejandrito
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volatility=bearish market

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 05:39 | 2524785 boogerbently
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.....remember Y2K !

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 05:47 | 2524789 Element
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I would have gone for the orderly default option though, ... but ... whatever.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 06:56 | 2524839 chiswickcat
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If any currency is facing imminent devaluation, I would suspect it is JPY, GBP or USD to be devalued, not the EUR. Euro debts are mainly to other EUR countries. A devaluation would not reduce debts much (not enough to make a devaluation worthwhile - but would 'only' help exports)  

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 08:50 | 2525076 therearetoomany...
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The USD?  Really?!?!?!?   You've got to be kidding...we have the smartest most brilliant and peaceful man in the white house leading our country, we have the most brilliant minds in the treasury, the Fed, we have a media very supportive of the initiatives of this demi-God (apologies to Obama for understating his greatness) leading the country, we've got Warren Buffet extolling the virtues of taxation.   The USD HAS to be the most stable of all.  

I mean, these guys wouldn't lie about our monetary unit's strength.  

Would they?

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 07:11 | 2524858 StellarChartist
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>currency collapse fear?

these guys are optimists!  

they are 4 days early but they should add a week.

the new reality wont ge here b4 independence day as is.

and that's ironic.

 

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 07:19 | 2524874 orangegeek
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I want off this planet.

Thu, 06/14/2012 - 08:48 | 2525062 chiswickcat
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Can someone please just telephone oanda and ask them what the f' they are on about?

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