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They need to print more! MOAR!!!!!!!
OT: Former Moody's Analyst turns whisteblower, describes rating agency as "rotton to the core"
Hey, in order to reduce the "Roubini pushback" effect, can we all just stick with the term "devaluation".
this must be the tailwind to the Gold price
Fantastic free E-bOOK site...download ur Nag-Hammdi libraries and other Ocultism books....u never know when that KILL SWITCH comes along::
So how is this different than monetizing their debt?
Because it is called SMP, you see no similarities...
We approach ludicrous speed.
All fiat paper turns plaid when the threshold of ludicrous currency is crossed.
Let me know when we have gone the plaid.
IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN!!
and their Bansker Parents.
Today I had a very funny reaction from the man behind the counter at the gas station.
I was buying a pack of sigarettes and it seemed the price of 4.8 euro went up to 5.2 euro.
So I was kind of looking like a retard to him when he said 5 20 and I responded with a brilliand "He?"
He looked back at me with empty eyes and said: "It's a collect for the Greeks"
and I answerd: "We're not supposed to talk about this you know"
Than I laughed and as I turned my back he kept on mumbling about our politicians.
and all the rest in line was responding with arguments like "Fuck those fuckers", "Bastards"...
It was kind of funny :)
Nice - kicking beehives at the local gas station or watering hole is how revolutions start. Just hope the blame gets put on the governments and banksters and not the people of the "at risk" PIGS
you still shouldn't smoke... and you know it!
Does achmachat stand for Nanny in some language?
fuu, you misunderstood,
i couldn't care less if it was about your health etc. yadyadayada...
you shouldn't smoke just because it's the easiest way for "the man" to tax you even more.
2 words : pipe tobacco
3 mo words : grow ur own
5,20 Euro!! I thought cigs were expensive US. That's like $7.50 a pack. Glad I quit.
They're around $12 in Great Britain.
Cigs are $10 in NYC.
"Pass the donuts Sir Charles"
This does a fine job of explaining Europe and well, everything else:
The End of the World in 3 Minutes.
"Well done! You've lost a million dollars!"
"What do you mean, well done!??!?!?"
"Well, you've lost ONLY a million dollars! Well done!"
I don't get it. ECB buys up government bonds in the secondary market, driving up prices, handing the sellers of the bonds newly created money. Then they say the sterilize with their tender operations, where one can deposit securities at the ECB and get a 1.5% yield for it? So, again, new currency will spring into existence?! How is that not extending the amount of € floating around?
Plz do not play attention to the man behind the curtain!
As the US capital markets are on their knees begging for more QE one has to ask, what exactly is the mandate of a Central Bank?
I actually think some of what Bernanke did in 2008/2009 was necessary. Having all the worlds banks go bankrupt at the same time would have created chaos beyond comprehension.
Now, why is QE even being contemplated? Because the S&P is 17% off its YTD highs?
You know what a viable poltical candidate should be doing, not talking about eliminating the Fed (because that ain't going to happen.....yet) but rather outlining how they would rein in the mandate of the Fed. Clear, conscise language on what the mandate of the Fed is, and what powers the Fed has to carry out its mandate.
I have a dream that intelligence and rational thought/action can actually become a decent alternative to what passes for political discourse in the US.
Ironically said "chaos beyond comprehension" (completely ignoring for a second the complete falacy of that statement as a global pre-pack in which financial debt is written down to viable levels would have allowed banks to continue operating... but, oh yes, equity would have been wiped out making billionaires into panhanlders, which the status quo will never allow) would have been the only thing that can fix 98 years of Fed-inspired catastrophic policy which plunders from the future, while exchanging nothing but accrued volatility and 666-sigma events for it. Paying the piper will be inevitable, but yes, next time around we will "all be prepared." Sure...
As for reining in the Fed, why, the most corrupt politician in DC, Bob Corker has been doing so for 6 months now. Surely that is the end all solution to it all...
Tyler, you realize that plunder the future is really plunder the resources of other nations now before they wake up.
there will come a point when Teh Fed will not be able to impact the markets -- we are on the verge of neutered Fed. the funduhmentals are wretched and the structural problems too great for fake monies. you need to peg policy/$'s onto some kind of reality and that reality is PM's and other tangible commodities.
insane volatility and various bankster disinformation only obfuscates for so long.....zirp to 2013 is excellent case in point; only making matters worse as in priced as vaporware into ether pricing.
Right....who is left to really believe in this BS? No one...3 strikes and yer out.
We will never be fully prepared.
However, everyone going to their ATM and getting the blue screen of death, at once, wouldn't have merely made panhandlers out of billionaires. Especially in a well armed nation such as the US.
However, since then, we have missed many opportunities to perform a pre-pack on banks (cough BAC/C), and do exactly what you outlined above.
Perhaps there is no in between. Perhaps chaos, civil war, is the only available route.
But like i said i am a dreamer.
You thought you had a dream but when you woke up you see, all you got is this lousy nightmare.
Lizzy they should have faced the music in 2009, the only thing theyve accomplished is now it will be FAR worse than what we would have faced then. But I agree with your point 'why is QE3 even being contemplated with the S&P a bit down, 15% or so...yea why? Because now that theyve set the 'new economy' which is based upon money printing itself, its their only option.
So in 2009 they wouldnt rip off the bandaid and apply some alcohol and a couple stitches, now gangrene has set in and amputation is the only answer.
the debt-money system makes printing inevitable when credit cannot grow organically.
This is very simple math. Debtmoney exists in a state of defacto default at all times. The only thing preventing a great unwind is the expectation that the future will hold more borrowing. If it does not, the interest owed on existing money begins to cannibalize the monetary base.
If the Bernank is smart, he will be seen as the Mises or Fisher or Keynes of the next century for his "monetary phenomena in CONTRACTIONARY economic climates." Literally, this is greenfield for the economics profession. Nobody has ever studied anything other than growth.
Oligarchic symphony of asset contraction in regulated mode all the while printing like mad to maintain liquidity, biflation, collateralised deflation orchestrated world wide in fiat money, what a green fields project of awesome magnitude. Better not get it wrong, as all the balls up in the air could fall at once. Mind boggling.
The silver short squeeze continues, intra-day high so far is $44.16/oz.
"central-bank free markets as far as they eye can see"
Sounds like a gangsta Marc Faber.
To be spoken in a heavy Swiss-German accent while pointing at an exponential chart of the US national debt...
One of Marc's very nice lectures: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0sS6a9RW2E
ECB not monetizing because the loot is sterilized...
because nobody likes dirty money.
Can you say mortgage delinquincies
The FED/ECB printing press is the writing on the wall of the West : we must bring down our debts in fiat money, our standard of living in real goods, and prepare the world for a true reset when we are good and ready...
When will that be?
"When the pain has spread to the EMs who are full of our outsourced surpluses, when the slow down in DCs will allow energy paradigm change, when international labour arbitrage allows us to bring back work to West. That will be in ten years time, IF THE CHINDIANS AND THE ARABS, play the game and accept huge hair cuts of debts as well as assets which will allow us all to grow again.
As this is a complex, incestuous situation of world Oligarchy play, they will get their share once WE are ready. Only can be solved at global level by us Oligarchs who hold ALL the cards."
Trouble is, as the European Apocalypse has proven, the LAST oligarchy play of European Oligarchs (the Imperial nation states) took us ALL to Armageddon... One thing an Oligarch cannot stand is another Oligarch who is not of his fold, culture, mind set, breathing down his neck, just because the host was kind enough to invite him to the party. When the garlic smell of barbarian oligarch hits those genteel nostrils, it'll be time to hit the mattresses, we'll be in the Godfather serial for real. Wait n see the Oligarchs sing their sterile song of 'we all love each other hunkey dorey, one big family, pulling the global boat to safe shores like one big happy famiglia'...Putana, Luca Brazi sleeps with the fishes, tonite, tonite!
In the meantime MAin street sizzles to overheat in biflation and total defeat. All over the world. That's THEIR disjointed, desperate vision of things, a midsummer's night dream gone wrong. We are destined all to be Calibans and Quasimodos in the coming Tempest, as Notre Dame burns.
RE-EDIT : Right on cue TD brings us the next Oligarchical sequel of 'The Godfather' serial :
Oh the insidious smells of garlic, of sauerkraut, of corn dogs, of russian Bortsi, of chinese duck soup....
The race is on. Who can print more, the FED or ECB. Print digital quadrillions and re-value into SDR's that are not available to the masses.
Is there a chart showing the amount of increase in ECB money supply? Shadow Stats shows some great ones for the Fed but is there one for the ECB?
Up till 2007 only though
Just in time for Jackson Hole...
All just smokescreen anyway now that Libya is 'over' time to start up Syria invasion in which Iran and Russia and China will also be involved in, against us. Yahoo bring on the party times!
USO for oil..it's cheap right now. That's why JPMorgan bought 30 mil of the 60 mil barrels Barry released last month at $92 a barrle. They expect oil to rise substantially.
Pretty bad when Hugo Chavez is apparently the most sane leader on the world stage.
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