As ECB's Stark Warns Contagion Has Spread To Euro Core, Bank Cash Parked With ECB Soars At Fastest Rate In Years

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Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:04 | 1898141 Spooky Polish
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What EUR/USD about it guys ?



Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:06 | 1898418 Fish Gone Bad
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Does anyone know why the chart has a saw tooth pattern?  Did the banks all of a sudden want their cash back, or was the money just spent?

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:05 | 1898142 Tijuana Donkey Show
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And the winner is..... Goldman!

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:13 | 1898177 SheepDog-One
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Yea but its 'winning' as in 'Who can kill all the Golden Geese first'...after youve killed them all theres nothing left.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:34 | 1898279 Spastica Rex
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After the parasite consumes the host, well... no other planet to "infect" as far as I can see.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:05 | 1898389 LeBalance
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there is a scene in Dune in which Leto Atreides is tested to see if he is a conscious human being or an animal and should be put down.  His hand is placed inside a box that creates the illusion of burning (incineration in fact).  This is explained to him.  A needle knife is placed next to his neck and he is told that if his is able to understand the "reality" of the situation "that the box is an illusion" he will leave his hand in and live, but if he is an animal his instincts will take over and he will die.

The human race is supposedly a conscious one, but does it conduct its business on its only home world in such a fashion. >At any scale of action?<

Does Congress deny the teeming masses? (population overload, animal behavior, irresponsibility encouraged/fomented).

Is constraception the dominant policy? (population overload: death of the race).

Is nuclear energy and weaponry anathema? (destruction of food supply and human fertility: death of the race)

Does every man, woman, and child understand the exponential function?

There are many more analogies like those above pertaining to use of resources, etc, etc.


I would say the human race is not a consciously planning entity.  Maybe there will be consequences to that lack of forethought.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:30 | 1898533 Spastica Rex
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I've been trying to figure out how to phrase a response, but I'm not going to do very well. Here goes:

I think this issue of human vs. animal response is at the core of what we see around us. However, it's not an issue of individual expressions of humanity. The human social organism - the hive - is increasingly unable to express those better qualities possessed by (some) individual human minds. The larger the social organism grows, the more unconcious it becomes.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:36 | 1898282 Oh regional Indian
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With due apologies to yoru avaatar, I think we are more at a Jason and the Golden Fleecing moment.

Only it's Jamie and the Goldman Fleecing.

really, it won't hurt and take just a second.....

Heh and it looks like the 4th R could only be kept down so long eh? WIth the Sexy Coburgs as their royal's all rather hilarious.

Europe is being herded by a nasty sheep-hund!



Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:42 | 1898303 SheepDog-One
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Theyve killed faith in the system, without that theyve got nothing to fleece at all. Theyre going to steal everyones bonds? Loot the treasuries? Then what?

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:47 | 1898319 Spastica Rex
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Oh, I think there is plenty of faith left. Hope springs eternal.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:32 | 1898544 Hugh_Jorgan
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Yep it is called denial. Humans are really good at playing make-believe, and the Banksters are happy to oblige.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:55 | 1898360 Oh regional Indian
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It's wipe-out time SD1. Big wave building. Where you and I see a receding sea, people see an expanded beach. Hey, what's wrong with two springs in the same year, heh? Heck Yeah! 

So we are running away to high ground from the expanding beach and the sheep are running into a soon to come roaring back tsunami.

Such is how I see it.



And check this out... relationships...

See the second image especially...


Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:00 | 1898382 Spastica Rex
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I know you see imminent phase transition. I don't disagree, I just don't think anybody knows what the time scale is. "Imminent" could be today, or it could be many years away.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:12 | 1898442 Oh regional Indian
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Hey SR, serious question.... do you feel the pace of your life is increasing or decreasing, on a month to month basis? What about those of people around you? Faster or slower? 

How did 2011 passing go for you so far? 

For me, time is flying.....or am I all sped up? And yet, all I do is sit. 

It's time to put the capstone on the Pyramid. And the capstone is sitting in plain view for the world to see. If you have the eyes to see and all that sort of thing. ;-)


Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:21 | 1898487 Spastica Rex
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Serious answer:

I find myself at 46 years old with my mind usually stuck somewhere in the past. In a way, time almost feels like it has stopped for me personally, but continues on around me like a movie. I think that's a symptom of derealization.

Crazy - truly gone fishing?

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:21 | 1898488 SheepDog-One
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Way Faster.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:43 | 1898582 Hugh_Jorgan
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Agreed. But every year we live, makes a year shorter in comparison to the length of time we've been alive. So it follows that a year seems shorter as we get older. I think that middle age is when many people really start to notice this, they are more aware because they know that they have pretty much crossed the halfway mark.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 12:12 | 1898699 Oh regional Indian
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Precisely. Something is changing, and that thing is changing fast!

So many aspects to it. The Cell phone addiction is the most obvious symptom.

Arctic Eskimoes saying the Sun has never risen from wehre it is rising now. Not in all their spoken history. Not in their life-times of intense sun observation. The winds have shifted it seems. I'll winds are blowing and good winds have reduced drastically.

old Eskimo tales?

I don't think so.


Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:18 | 1898205 Theta_Burn
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Prophetic with that reply Tijuana, let me help as visions from afar can be blurry

And the winner is

Any 1 of these daily headlines just 2 years ago would have caused a meltdown, how did the system get so numb?

Maybe the term "Green Shoots"should be revived.ahh the good ole days....


Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:08 | 1898147 holdbuysell
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What was driving the deposit facility ramp three times prior to the current ramp?

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:50 | 1898334 Oh regional Indian
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Another never investigated stinker. Why was the UK the largest buyer of T-Bills (National Buyer that is) this last half year or more? It's splitting at the seams internally, cutting services for it's welfare addled population left and right OF center. Sscandal torn, broke on the surface UK buying US Bonds, hand over fist?

And what the shit is India, teetering on the brink of 25% real inflation, doing lending billions to the IMF SDR facility? BIS man in India says 85 cents a day is living wage in a big Indian Metro and then tries to defend it. No shame.

Once you see past the thin veneer, it all becomes quite clear. 

We are getting to see the innards of the longest running financial scam, ever. It's present form being spawned from Venice.

If you see the soft point in the underbelly, stab it.


Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:08 | 1898152 HD
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Just a little lesson. If it's gangrene you have to cut it off before it spreads and kills you. Unsustainable debt and intervention are no different.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:11 | 1898168 SheepDog-One
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Yep and theres a lot of limbs around that are way south of Limburgher.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:12 | 1898171 Global Hunter
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I'm picking hairs, but one can't default or write down gangrene, but I think your analogy is appropriate.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:14 | 1898182 SheepDog-One
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'Default or write down'...someone still has to pay for that.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:10 | 1898162 put_peter
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Ok... this is where the Greeks have put the money.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:10 | 1898163 cossack55
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The Athens Pandemic. Now, someone write the novel, please.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:18 | 1898204 Spooky Polish
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Yeap just like Hemingway fucking Greenaway rough 

surrealistic porn wersion of "Old Man and the Sea" .

Except there's no sea ,

and whale gapes old man's ass


excues for my english ofc 

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:10 | 1898165 Global Hunter
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The sovereign debt crisis has re-intensified and is now spreading over to other countries including so-called core countries. This is a new phenomenon," Stark said

Obviously he doesn't read ZH or else he would have been aware of this "phenomenon" some time ago.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:18 | 1898201 oogs66
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yes, every one of their plans has spread contagion rather than fixing it!

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:21 | 1898214 Spooky Polish
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Yeap , but i can't belive they are missinformed ... so then? 

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:34 | 1898273 aleph0
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Pleeease don't send him a link .. he might close us down.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:12 | 1898176 rambler6421
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Contagion bitchez!

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:13 | 1898180 drivenZ
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In the middle of this complete fiasco, I'd just like to remind everyone not to worry...Global Funds has your back. Forget Gold, just plow your $$ into their new(as of last month) Social Media ETF and forget about it.




Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:22 | 1898217 Stumpy
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I must admit that GlobalX have very innovative products.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:27 | 1898240 GeneMarchbanks
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Internet Penetration indeed.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:31 | 1898259 Belarusian Bull
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Brilliant find! Going to sell all my silver and invest in this ETF. What could possibly go wrong? And who even needs those barbaric relics anyway? Cos, you know, you can't eat silver, right?

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:14 | 1898183 buzzsaw99
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Spreading, that's funny. Gee, everywhere I look I find rot, the rot must be spreading. LMAO!

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:14 | 1898184 Gief Gold Plox
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ECB should just pull an MFGlobal stunt and use all the parked cash to lever up the EFSF and then relase a public statement consisting only of: Got gold Bitches?

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:26 | 1898233 buckethead
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My exact thought as I read the essay.


The new normal.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:43 | 1898305 SheepDog-One
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'Got the OTHER precious metals'?

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:55 | 1898361 JungleJim
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And down in the cellar, Uncle Otto is mounting the ZF back on the Kar-98 .....

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:15 | 1898187 MFL8240
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Placing money with the ECB is safe?  This is as funny as the dollar and US treauries are safe havens.  

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:15 | 1898189 TeamDepends
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(voice of Phil Hartman)

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Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:25 | 1898230 GeneMarchbanks
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'acute ennui' say that five times fast.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:16 | 1898192 monopoly
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Must be a good interest rate. What a mess we are in.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:26 | 1898232 mayhem_korner
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Except maybe in Australia and a few other "austere" places, the world hasn't seen a "good" interest rate in some time.  And so we get what we get.

Notice the increasing slope in each of those superimposed up-arrows?  That is ominous.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:17 | 1898193 oogs66
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is all this cash being lent to the ECB how they sterilize stuff? 

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:21 | 1898206 tim73
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Financial warfare by New York and London banksters. Except for Greece NONE of the eurozone countries are as fucked up financially as USA or UK. Now that so called "supercommittee" cannot even agree on anything so USA will just print money more for banksters until the all out collapse comes. Meaning more financial warfare targeted especially against eurozone.

We should cut out these two leeches out of the circulation here in Europe. London should be first to go, fucking quarantee that stupid island.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:21 | 1898215 Börjesson
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Didn't Jürgen Stark resign from the ECB a while back?

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