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Egyptian Protesters Scale US Embassy Walls, Tear Down US Flag
Three months ago, the Muslim Bortherhood supported, US-endorsed and recommended candidate, Mohammed Mursi won the Egyptian presidential election. Fast forward to today, when we learn from Al Jazeera that the grateful Egyptian population has decided to conduct a little Arab Spring repeat rehearsal in the fall, as Egyptian protesters scaled the walls of the U.S. embassy in Cairo on Tuesday and some pulled down the American flag during a protest over what they said was a film being produced in the United States that was insulting to the Prophet Mohammad, witnesses said.
From Al Jazeera:
“At least four of them climbed over the embassy walls and tore down the American flag,” a witness said, adding that the demonstrators were angered by a film produced by expatriate members of Egypt’s Christian minority resident in the United States.
In place of the U.S. flag, the protesters tried to raise a black flag with the words “There is no god but Allah and Mohammad is his messenger,” a Reuters reporter said.
Amil Ameen, a Coptic political commentator, told Al Arabiya that “there is a plot to divide Egypt,” and that the production of such anti-Islam film “hurt Coptic Egyptians before their Muslims brothers.”
About 20 people stood on top of the outer wall of the embassy in central Cairo, where about 2,000 protesters had gathered.
Al Arabiya correspondent said that no one was injured as embassy guards fired into the air to disperse the protesters
Luckily, there is nothing to fear here, or anywhere else for that matter: nothing can go wrong anywhere, ever again. The central planners have it all under control.
As for the Keynesian spin, that torn flag will contribute at least 0.0000001% in 2012 GDP as a replacement will surely have to be flown out (assuming one is made in the US and not in China of course).
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what film?
if it is a Hebeywood produced movie-anyone with a brain will be insulted
Ron Paul would be proud.
Not sure if it's related to the Egyption thing, but have a look at brent: http://blog.quantsig.net/2012/09/11/brent-crude/
And the US keeps giving $+1B to this country each year, why?
We need to spread the wealth around.
It costs a lot of money to buy off puppet dictators.
Yea, that Obama campaign is what, $1billion?
Caliphate and shit....wait, Muslim Brotherhood good now, so is Al Qeada. We just keep shitting where we eat.
Are we even eating there? It looks like the table's almost empty anyway.
Maybe we're just eating shit.
9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out, Full-length, Pre-Release-v1.3; Low-Res.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tTMMNTisBM&feature=youtu.be
http://www.dailypaul.com/254300/italian-supreme-court-head-calls-for-international-9-11-inquiry
Why does it all feellike a farcial repeat of 1979-80 all over again. Iran and Iraq had just finished years of bloodshed.
Oil in crisis...
Different state, Muslim Brotherhood (equivalent to the Ayatollahs in Iran) in Power. American Embassy...election coming right up...
hmmmm
ori
Good to see you ORI.
All Your Base Are Belong To Us says The Base(Al-Qaeda/CIA/Mossad), English please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qItugh-fFgg
Engrish please. There I fixed it for you.
And I'm sure the Marines followed the rules of non engagement by firing over their heads.
The comparisons to the Jimmy Carter era continue.
we let millions in yo our country illegally why not the embassy?
Probably because we owe them, too.
Suez Canal, bitchez...
What do they say in Chicago? That's a nice dam you got there Mr. Mursi.
it costs alot of money to buy puppets but what/where is the reward?
can't see it in the US balance of trade figures!
still it's nice that the US puts it upon itself to instil global peace and love with its geopolitical football games... when i say "peace" it would in fact be a peaceful world without the US playing geopolitical games
I think we should spread the lead around, .50 cal. for starters. And next time aim at the MFers, not over them.
we give egypt billions of dollars because it looks better than just handing it to lockheed martin and general dynamics directly....this way it doesnt fall under the pentagon welfare/defense budget numbers.........its much nice sounding when its under "foreign aid"...............
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Egypt-to-Spend-32B-in-Updating-F-16CD-Fleet-05860/
kito said:
We have a winner, folks!
Almost all of the "foreign aid" that the US sends to its puppets is essentially in the form of vouchers to be used with US defense contractors.
The US defense industry is as big of a welfare queen as Wall Street is.
Because they need U-boats! duh...
suez canal for one thing
I'm Barack Obama, and I approve this message...
Please Allah, let Vivid be the producers.
Not sure if trolling.. if not..
Could be any action film with "Terrorists" (the brown kind not the new white libertarian ones) with references to allah, mohammed, or anything of the sort.
But lets be real.. they arn't scaling walls for that.
They're scaling walls because they're a bunch of dumbshit Muslims. That's what they do, kill people and destroy things.
unlike the dumbshit Xtians who invaded Iraq on deliberate lies, and currently occupy Afghanistan, hijacking children for sex slaves. . .
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/02/breaking-afghanistan-americas-to...
just for you,
http://www.naaminis.com/discus/messages/670/27878.jpg
Yawn... I see you chose the blue pill.
I see you're a Zionist, racist and or just fucking stupid.
Let's see I'm and American Indian that has never been to Israel. I just haven't drank the anti-Semitic Kool-Aid that so many on this page seem to have consumed.
But I do have a problem with Muslims I have read the Qur'an and I don't like what it says. If that makes me a Zionist racist. So be it.
"Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Qur’an 2:191
“Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.” Qur’an 9:123
“When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them.” Qur’an 9:5
“Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.” Qur’an 3:85
“The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.”... Qur’an 9:30
“Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam” Qur’an 5:33
“Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.” Qur’an22:19
“The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them.” Qur’an 8:65
“Muslims must not take the infidels as friends.” Qur’an 3:28
“Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” Qur’an 8:12
“Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.” Qur’an8:60
I know some pseudo-intellect will come along and say that these are only to be taken metaphorically, and that most Muslims don’t believe these verses. However it’s not the nominal, cultural Muslims that I worry about. I worry about the billion+ Muslims who actually believe these are the literal words of Allah and must be taken with absolute seriousness.
Talk about tiresome. The muslims are the least of your worries, debtslave.
The ones you should worry about is the not so bright guys that have some alphabet-soup handler whispering in their ear, seems they are the only ones doing something nefarious. Derk derk Allah, Derpa derpa, Muhammed jihad.
Those verses are not to be taken metaphoricallly by any Muslim. They are taken literally. And literally when you include the unbutchered context of those verses (each and every one you quoted) and read the commentary on them, you'll know they are verses talking about a particular event and in a specific time and have no presciptive value for Muslims outside of that context. 2 billion Muslims understand this, a few thousand perhaps, would read it as you receive it.
dp
There are a half dozen words there you might want to look up before you attempt to use them in a sentence.
Xtians invaded Iraq? I had to junk you for that bit of cluelessness.
was it the "X" or the reminder that Dubya was a born-again?
that many uniformed invaders wave the flag for "god & country" is an obvious truth.
Great. At least they DO something. Fat and lazy American Christians just sitting like ducks waiting for the FEMA trucks to take them to aUSschwitz.
It's a zionist plot - Everyone can see that...
/sarc (for the morons in the room)
It could be an Obama re-election ad, Apostasy is a capital offense, then there is that whole There is no other God but... thing
..but..but...I'm the only gay in the village
Ishtar
"I wanna buy a blind camel."
The one their cousin is making in America.
Advertising isn't cheap you know.
“2016: Obama's America”
"A Fiat Odyssee"
a debtors prison
Pawn Stars: FEMA edition
Revolting neo-con drivel.
"Harold and Kumar Eat Pork"
The sequel to Harold porks Kumar
The one they're making to piss off the Muslims.
Action -> Reaction -> Solution
Hard to protect us all from the "ebil, different people" unless they get them all fired up first. And how better to do that, but to first undermine their stable government, then leave them to their own devices?
Activation energy, FTMFW!
It's a "how to" video detailing the in's and out's of having sex with your dead wife just one more time. Includes things like how to test the body temperature rectally, or via any other orifice that might be handy.
Apparently in the video a bereaved husband mutters something about some other diety at climax. Otherwise, no problem.
Woohoo!!!!
Long time reader, first time comment. (Be gentle lubes gone up in price).
If your going to war with the US over a film it has to be an Adam Sandell film.
Now where do I pick up my MDB token and how do I cash it in for gold?
It stars George Clooney and Barabas Streisand - It's a Love Story
Everything that comes out of that giant stinky asshole that is named 'Hollywood' is runny smelly diarrhea only fit for the sewer.
stone aged neanderthals.
Spreading democracy around the world... we sure are!
why don't they turn their anger on their next-door neighbor Israel- cut out the middle man because they run the US anyway
because Israel would vaporize them
and not a minute too soon
moron- that would be like vaporizing the next suburb over-not exactly good enviromentally for your little slice of "The Holy Land"
look we all know you worship the Obersturmbannführer and would personally lick the asshole of any Waffen SS officer until it was clean.
But give it a rest, OK silly man.
That nuclear weapons are inherently dirty is a popular misconception. A large hydrogen bomb at a sufficient altitude to prevent the fireball from interacting with the ground will produce very little long term radio-isotopes, mostly short-lived beta decayers. Dirty is if you send a uranium bomb into the dirt, to get a silo for example. No need for that, counterproductive even, if you are after population.
Amazing how fast the truth accumulates down arrows? The only true terrorist state on the planet.
Where did they get their illegal nukes again?
How many UN resolutions have they ignored?
A 44 year Palestinian ethnic cleansing and the world does nothing. Why?
Why does our government kiss their criminal asses?
No one seems to be able to answer that simple question.
Why does the world let this continue?
What power does this terrorist state hold over the nations of the planet?
They made their own nukes, and who are you to say they are illegal? I don't know of any Israeli law that states that the Israeli government can't make nuclear warheads. Maybe I just haven't read enough Israeli national code books. After all Israel is a sovereign country not subject to the laws of any other organization.
By the way, who the hell cares what the most corrupt organization in the world says. The UN is beyond despicable.
They kill the Palestinians, because the Palestinians kill the Israelis. It's equal opportunity ethnic cleansing. They've been killing each other for 3500 years, why stop now.
The US government seems to be on the Israeli side of most of these arguments, because we don't have Israeli terrorists trying to kill US citizens. Plain and simple. If the Muslims would quit trying to kill us, they might find us more amenable to their plight.
The answers are quite simple, but I assume that you really don't care, you just wanted to rant. But from here on out, you can't say that no one has given you answers to your pathetic elementary questions.
Nonsense. Not true by a long shot. Before the artifical land split and the setup of the State of Israel in its current form, there were hardly any signs of struggle in that region. The Brits fucked that up and royally. It's what they do.
There are well over one billion muslims in the world. If you haven't noticed, they're mostly killing each other over one or the other tribal issue or interpretation of the Quran. Compared to the number of muslims killed by muslims, the number of Americans killed by muslims is completely negligable. Take away the number of American troops killed by muslims and it's irrelevant.
In fact, take the amount of money spent on the wars against muslim regimes compared to the number of dead at the hands of muslims and you would see how stupid this whole argument of "muslims killing Americans" really is.
Walkure
I see you can't handle dissent so like a coward you post so you can't get the down arrow which I would surely give you just for that alone. No American life is negligable asshole and it's not the American's who want to kill all the infidels.
Right.
Tell it to those who sign the cheques so Americans can die fighting mirages in the desert. FYI. They don't care. They never do. It's all about numbers, yield and revenues.
I'm sure we could find a good number of Americans who would nothing more than making that desert into a parking lot.
Do you even know how many Iraqi and Afghani civilians died at the hand of Americans? Do you care to know? Do you think that is just bullshit?
War is hell you can tell that to the peace prize president who has us fighting in Afghanistan he's signing the checks he said it was the good War. As for Iraq I don't think we should have ever gone there either. We should have just concentrated on killing osama. In War there are casualties but War is an entirely different issue then cold blooded murder anyway. That's what Muslim's do murder/slaughter/be-head people over religion. I stand by what I said No American life is negligable. I wish obama would stop getting them killed in Afghanistan for nothing. If Muslim lives were so important they would stop killing each other but obviously they have no regard for life not their own people's or others.
Yes, as a statement that is morally and ethically correct. Not just American lives but any life of any man, woman or child around the world COUNTS.
I'm not sure if you're trying to say that American lives are more important than anybody else's life. Or are you suggesting that it is a privilege to happen to be born on this land and carry the American citizenship vs. any other citizenship and therefore your life is worth more somehow?
Look A hole you are the one who said American life was negliable in the first place. Pussy poster can't handle the down arrows grow up or man up.
If they had no regard for life why are there one billion of them? You see them killing each other in large numbers where exactly Iraq Vs Iran are the largest wars they've had. West Pakistan and Algeria were pretty bad 250k dead. Still it has nothing on things Vietnam. Shit America killd more people in two days of atomic bombing. The Armenian genocide was pretty bad but those were Turkish nationalists they had marginalized the caliphate by then. FUck all to do with religion. They also blame the Sabbateans for that but thats another story. You need to look back longer and deeper before you watch some videos on Fox News and decide on the nature of over 1 billion people following a millenia old creed.
A little revisionist history our your behalf. The history of Israel and their neighbors does go back a little longer than 100 years. But that's government education for you.
As far as Muslims trying to kill us. Let's see... of all the terrorist plots uncovered in the last 11 years. What percentage of them were Muslim terrorists? Other than a few deranged young white guys on psychotropic medication, I would say the rest have been Muslims. How many of them have been Israeli terrorists?
Even the liberal rag the Daily Beast enumerates 45 terrorist plots that have been foiled since 9/11. And that is only in America. Then you have evil loan wolfers like the Muslim Fort Hood terrorist. You can try to scrub history all you want but the facts have a way of getting in the way of you dogma.
3500 years is what you threw out there.
Not sure what your point is. Are you suggesting Palestinians and Israelis were fighting this long? Nevermind centuries of Roman occupation, bloody Crusades and so on. Go find a good book on Anthropology and do your research.
Right, and you expect me to believe that the Israelis and Palestinians sprung from the forehead of Zeus 100 years ago and none of their ancestors ever knew about that tiny strip of land before then?
Don't talk to me about Anthropology. Archeological evidence shows that the Israelis first occupied the land between 1400 and 1500 BC. And they were fighting with the other inhabitants of the land back then. If you think the Jews and the Arabs fighting is just a construct of the British fucking everything up, you have a lot to learn.
(Although I do have to agree with your sentiment that the British have a way of really fucking things up)
Yup, the Israelites have been fighting everyone else in that theater for ages. Calling on some special "blessing" from God to justify killing off pretty much all others including mass murder and genocide. It is in their blood and it is in their history. Bible is full of stories to that extent.
But the difference between THEN and NOW is that Israelites fought for themselves and on their own. They won land, they lost land. They were occupied and they occupied. Then came the Brits and installed the nation state within a concept of borders that never existed. The state of Israel was recognized as nation state based on what was once a land full of Israelites. Going back centuries.
Installing Israel in 1948 based on a tribe of people who happened to live there on and off was bullshit. Then backing that nation state with the full armor and arsenal of the US was even bigger bullshit.
But the biggest bullshit of all time is letting Israelites have NUKES when none of their enemies are allowed to have 'em.
God's special favor or blessing my ass.
Yeah and Celts used rule the British Isles in 1500 BC. Shall we start and fight World War III to build them a new capitol at stone henge? Forrest you said your Native American why don't you grow some balls and go fight the good fight and try and get the Federal government to recognize your peoples right to a state?
Some people are smart enough to realize when they've been defeated.
The Celts and the Nez Perce have brains and realized many moons ago that they were defeated and have learned to live within the greater culture that has taken them over.
Someday the world may be in an upheaval and the Celts and the Nez Perce may have the chance once again to live independent of their "oppressors". Although many a Celt and Nez Perce have it far better under the "oppressor" than they ever did when they were on their own.
"Before the artifical land split and the setup of the State of Israel in its current form, there were hardly any signs of struggle in that region. The Brits fucked that up and royally. It's what they do."
But just who are the "Brits"?
The Cousinhood.
We should first bring the Anglo-Jewish elite, referred to by Macaulay, into sharper focus. From the early 19th century until the First World War, English Jewry was ruled by a tightly connected oligarchy. Daniel Gutwein states that this Anglo-Jewish elite comprised some twenty inter-related Ashkenazi and Sephardic families including the houses of Goldsmith, Montagu, Nathan, Cohen, Isaacs, Abrahams, Samuel, and Montefiore.[14] At its head "stood the House of Rothschild."[15] This network of families had an "exceptionally high degree of consanguinity," leading to it being termed "The Cousinhood," and among them "conversion and intermarriage [with non-Jews] was rare."[16] Todd Endelmann attributes the lack of conversion to the fact that "conversion was not as useful, in general, to English Jews as it was to Jews in Central and Eastern Europe."[17] The Cousinhood exercised control over the Jewish community through its leadership of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, an organization which would later become one of the chief engines of the move for Jewish emancipation.[18]
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/08/free-to-cheat-jewish-emancipation-and-the-anglo-jewish-cousinhood-part-1/
Don't forget to play the small 'h' holocaust card.
Perfect how you speak of Israeli sovereignty and then criticize the UN in the next paragraph.
You do know how Israel became "sovereign" do you not?
pods
Some unintentional irony, certainly.
However, committees of people that grow ever larger and ever more driven by insulated group-think, with the sole mandate of figuring out what is "best" for everyone else are certainly susceptible to unintended consequences at best or perversion and corruption at worst.
you bought the 911 lie.
hook, line and sinker apparently
Ain't that there Israeli Jew National Code book you speak of in the Hebrew language to confuse us Goyem?
The UN is a complete fraud just like the IMF. They are overblown beauracracies with no oversight. Their stated mission is to save the world but their employees just blow through cash like it is nothing. 5 star hotels and meals. My wife was in Haiti a few weeks ago on a medical mission for a private charity. The UN trucks and employees just stand around and do nothing. The roads are still crap after 2 years.
We need to stop funding the UN.
We should get the U.S. out of the U.N. and the U.N. out of the U.S.
Now that is something I can agree with. But why is the U.N. located in NY? Along with the World Bank and the IMF in D.C.?
Good 'ole boys club network.
The U.N. is in New York because Nelson Rockerfeller donated the land to enable their NWO.
Did you know U.N. Charter exempts U.N. employees from income taxation?
Christine LeGarde pays no income tax while calling Greeks tax dodgers.
The nerve!!!!!!
"The roads are still crap after 2 years".
Umm, just a thought, but why don't the indigenous natives GET OFF THEIR ASS, STOP PLAYING DOMINOES, AND CLEAN THE PLACE UP?
(Sorry, now back to the thread):
FUCK: RELIGION
ISLAM
MOHAMMED
I can't believe no one has said it yet. Oh, FUCK EGYPT, too.
Haiti is an occupied territory - amrkn troops began arriving within 24 hours of the massive earthquake in 2010, faster than they did for Katrina/New Orleans even. months later there was a cholera outbreak, which had never been observed in Haitian history. I've read many stories of organ harvesting, I'll let anyone interested research by "who". . .
amrka's 4th largest embassy in the world is in Haiti. . .why? perhaps to keep an eye on the oil.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/haiti_oil__210.html
It sure is a good think our Dear leader helped these thugs overthrow our long time freind.
Don't believe Al Jazeera on this. There are clearly at least 11 people on that wall. LIARS!
"during a protest over what they said was a film being produced in the United States that was insulting to the Prophet Mohammad, witnesses said."
What was the film?
I was gonna say, 'Deepthroat in Dubai' but it's in such poor taste i'm going to refrain from such smut
I heard those films just use mexican girls dressed up like arabs to save budget.
ann barnhardt just had an orgasm
PNAC train be right on schedule.
Obummer better get them that billion dollar check soon. I wonder if they take Benny bucks.
I'm sure POTUS will apologize to them for flying the US flag over our embassy.
SKANDALOUS!
I'm sure those people will love the asset inflation from the QE which makes food completely unaffordable.
Kind of a poetic justice.
Someone remind me if the Suez Canal is still open for business.
The Central banksters will keep printing and causing food/commodities to climb worldwide. Trigger more government uprisings and riots from people living on the edge.
Go long guns and ammo.
They hate us for our freedom and our financial acumen.
Or they just reaaaaallly love the US flag...
All your flags are belong to us
Forget the freedom part. It's bullshit. Americans aren't free people. Not even worth debating.
Is that what you would call the fraud and manipulation to rake the entire world over the coals into accepting the shitty US paper backed by nothing as a reserve currency? Then tricking the entire world into wars and financial meltdown? That ACUMEN?
Well, BRAVO!!
You definitely didn't go on the "Understanding Sarcasm" course, did you? (this post is NOT sarcastic)
LOL ok
Muslim and Christian extremists fucking deserve each other. Just kill each other off already and get out of the way.
how about those f-ups in the CIA quit stirring up shit everywhere in the world
While I agree with this sentiment, the CIA didn't invent religion although they would have if they had thought of it first.
It was Constantine's, 'Holy Roman Empire' that wrote the bible... it was Constantine needing the christian movement siding with him?... keeping Rome whole. All out of necessity... the two 'Civil War's' that threatened Rome's existence were a sure path to the empires destruction and premature graveyard -- 'reality finds compromise when all else fails, is for naught a miscarriage of survival, but, that of our gifted ancestral mutation impulsive autonomy'... thus, were it not for Constantine proclaiming the Roman Empire a "Religious Free Zone"-- we'd be living in a pagan world... kinda like today? Or, we probably wouldn't even had created the eniac... ?
sound familiar?
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/romans.html
Ps. Constantine never converted... but, on the contrary, thought of himself as a diety. And, the bible... more often than not, was all hand picked propaganda by his chosen apostles soon to be Roman Catholic Pope's!
PS.2 The Vatican has/holds more physical gold than any country in the world...
So ... no Jesus?
really? well first the Christian Bible consist of the old and new testament. The oldest transcripts of the old testament date back to 8th and 9th centuries BC..parts of it as early as 150BC...I didn't know Constatine was alive back then?
Also we possess today some 5,000 ancient Greek copies of the New Testament, and 10,000 copies in other ancient languages. Latin and Coptic copies go back to the second century; fragments of papyrus documents go back to AD 130. Quotations in the writings of early church fathers date to A.D. 100. Complete versions of the Gospels, Acts, Paul's letters and Hebrews date to the early part of the third century; Revelation to the latter half. Complete volumes of the New Testament date to the 4th century. Note that each predates Constantine.
You may want to rethink your statement.
Sure, but you had to have the council of nicea to put it all together (and decide which parts to keep). This was Constantine's contribution. Attributing christian ownership to the Torah is pretty arrogant on any scale. Attributing any reliability to the gospels of a converted pharisee (Paul) is just plain gullible.
Religions seldom depend on copyright.
Attributing any reliability to the gospels of a converted pharisee (Paul) is just plain gullible.
For the record, Paul didn’t write the Gospels, those other guys did, Matt, Mark, Luke and John.
Also for the record, the Bible consists of 66 books written in 3 languages over a period of about 1,500 years by 40 different authors. It has few discrepancies, none of significance.
Parts of the Bible are extremely unflattering, even despicable to its subjects (us). To think that a group of people could have done this is absurdity, much like the formation of the universe or life itself. This is self-evident. To paraphrase (credit due) if man could have written it, they would not have, if they would have wanted to, they could not.
sschu
Fine, paul's letters. However, the bible was put together by a group of people. They left out what was inconvenient and kept the rest. The bible has parts taken from the jews, and gospels and letters written by others. There is nothing cohesive nor whole about it. It is an icon used to enslave people and guilt them into buying hope. It changes its' message between old and new testaments to conform to a new story line- one that had excluded gentiles. It changes the nature of God. It becomes a real mess if Abraham's story is misrepresented- just ask the moslems.
A group of people did write it- unless you are going to now attribute the writing to godly sources? There is nothing self evident about any of the values you have assigned this book. Man did write it, so, obviously he could. Those other guys? What, no reference to Phillip?
Finally, if it is so great and compelling a story, if christ is so compelling a god, then why is his story one of war, destruction, intolerance, greed and pedophilia? Why is theft done in god's name? Why does god fight for one side? The inconsistencies are glaring- not in the cobbled stories, but in the historical results- that have never changed for the better. Thank goodness that faith supplanted works, because otherwise, you're all going to hell- another place created by the church.
This is the problem with faith- it blinds you to reason.
I have no wish to argue with you my friend, but simply to point out your errors of fact. You can choose to believe what you so want.
unless you are going to now attribute the writing to godly sources?
Yes, clearly the scripture is “spirit breathed”, it says so in Timothy and by the very nature of the Book, that is self-evident.
his story one of war, destruction, intolerance, greed and pedophilia?
These are the stories of man, not of God. Before the fall, no such things existed. The overall theme of the Bible is man’s falling away from God and God’s ultimate plan to reunite with his creatures, which is ultimately accomplished as documented in Revelation.
another place created by the church.
Of course the Church did not exist until the New Testament, it began at the Pentecost and will end at the Rapture. Hell was a concept of the Old Testament long before the Church was established.
that have never changed for the better.
Yes, man is fundamentally sinful, hence the offering of Christ as the path to Righteousness. The Bible is clear that man has tried any number of ways to reconnect with his creator, none have been successful except thru the atoning sacrifice of Jesus.
Txs, sschu
If you had no wish to argue, you would have not responded. There is not a single "fact" in your statement.
If scripture was spirit breathed, then some would not have been excluded. You can't have it both ways.
Man is God's creation, is he not? If the creation is so completely imperfect- this is a reflection of the creator. We don't celebrate murdering sons, buildings that fall down, bridges that fail or social systems that enslave. Blaming man for the imperfection is just one more convenience for a story that is poorly told.
The fall is conjecture. The Jews often told stories to teach lessons. They were not to be taken literally. You have no idea whether this is a story or lesson. As for revelation, the same revelation that has been called for, wished for, declared ad nauseum? That revelation? Documented? Do you know what the word means?
If man is fundamentally sinful, then why did god wait so long to provide his offering? Noah should have been a wake up call, no? What if your creator turns out to be a group of alien geneticists? What if the harvest is literally a hervest?
You have no idea if people have "reconnected" through christ, it is based on faith, the same faith in the shaman or other wise person that has provided comfort in a world people failed to understand. Whether you call it Zeus, Odin or any other name for that which is greater than us, because otherwise nature scares the bejesus out of us is immaterial.
The problem with facts is that they are provable. You have zero facts. You do have plenty of snake oil, you can pay in the vestibule.
Jeremiah 5:21
sschu
Really, that is the best you can do? What a joke. Attributing powers to a non-existent god? Demanding a return to belief? You need a much better potion of snake oil, that one has no value whatsoever.
You are right.
Even if the Da Vinci Code argument were 100 % valid, its implications obviously would only affect mainstream Roman Catholicism and a certain gnostic flavor (out of several).
SomeBODY wrote those books. Just because the term CIA didn't exist yet, well that doesn't mean it wasn't the same type of people.
You expect me to believe that as soon as the CIA goes away, this will all disappear.
you'd be suprised at how much of it would
The world would be a much better place if the CIA, DHS, NSA, DEA, TSA, BATF, EPA and all of the rest of those alphabet soup acronym agencies were abolished.
+1 The world would be much better without all sorts of authorities, including the CIA. I prefer to start at the top, with God.
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How about that F up peace prize president
From Tunisia to “Occupy Wall Street”: Who is the AFL-CIO’s Stuart Appelbaum?
Soros and Liberals behind uprising in formerly Pro-US Arab Countries
Egypt's US funded, trained, equipped, and backed agitator of April 6, back in US to "advise" Occupy Wall Street crowds.
The Otpor Connection in EgyptThe connection between Otpur and Egypt is Gene Sharp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
This is laid out in an article by the NY Times :
http://j.mp/SharpEgypt1
Somewhat unknown in the sixties, he emerged in the mid 70's as a theorist of nonviolence. he influenced the Movement for a New Society, who influenced the Clamshell Alliance of New England (USA).
Then again it just might eople like you doing the shit stirring. Talk about gucking extremists. You are an extremist too! Now FOAD.
No mention of the zionist jews? The peace loving ones with the illegal nukes.
reckon the news media would report anything along those lines even if it "happened"?
the whole truth is never reported, merely a perspective.
Not to worry: Ben plans to drop food packages from his international helicopter squadrons as part of QE3.
Maybe the embassy just needs to put up some mohammed posters. Allah fubar!
And we give them $2 Billion in unconditional aid every year. So they may be intollerant zealots but we are just plain stupid.
"http://www.propublica.org/blog/item/f.a.q.-on-u.s.-aid-to-egypt-where-do..."
we give a hell of alot more to Israel- and that doesn't count all of the technology the Israelis "liberate" from our industries
because arming "both sides" has always been the modus operandi. . .
A.K.A. "Let's you and him fight!"
The oldest trick in the book. Works well too, as evidenced by all of its promoters in this thread. Yet not a single one of these pussies is volunteering to sling lead in support of it.
What do you think that "aid" goes to? Hint: It's not feeding them.
the "aid" that goes to Israel allows all of them to have cradle-to-grave top-notch health care :)
These are very reasonable and rational people so clearly we must have done something wrong.
I recommend another round of self-flagellation and ethno-masochism.
But it’s great that these guys can get the day off to express themselves like this.
If only such a work-life balance were more common here in the USA….there’s so much we can learn here.
*sigh*
We can learn so much from multiculturalism.
What ARE the best spices for "long pig?"
No, these are reasonable and rational people:
http://www.whale.to/b/mullins50.html