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With The Enterprise Just 4 Days Away From Arrival, A SWIFT Cut Off Of Iran
Update: as we hit print, we see headlines that the UK will cooperate with the US on bilateral agreement to release oil stocks. Crude down big on the news, which is merely an advance move ahead of almost inevitable war with Iran, simply to make the spike more palatable.
The push to get Iran to do something terminally irrational (now that USS Enterprise in its final tour of duty is almost on location just off the side of CVN-70 Lincoln and CVN-72 Vinson in the Arabian Sea, where the US will shortly have not one, not two, but three aircraft carriers) is now in its final stretch. As AP reported earlier, Iran has been now entirely cut off from the global financial system, as that anchor of international financial transactions, SWIFT, has just taken Iran off the grid. This leaves Iran with just three options for international trade: making gold into a fully convertible currency, barter, or exchanging Rials for Renminbi and other local currencies.
From the AP:
The SWIFT global financial transaction service said Thursday that it was cutting ties with Iranian banks that are subject to European Union sanctions aimed at discouraging the country from developing nuclear weapons.
The action effectively enforces EU sanction because the world's financial transactions are impossible without using SWIFT, and it will go a long way toward isolating Iran financially.
The company's name stands for Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication. It is a banking hub crucial to oil, financial transactions and other trades.
In a statement, SWIFT said the EU decision "prohibits companies such as SWIFT to continue to provide specialized financial messaging services to EU-sanctioned banks."
"Disconnecting banks is an extraordinary and unprecedented step for SWIFT," Lazaro Campos, chief executive of SWIFT, said. "It is a direct result of international and multilateral action to intensify financial sanctions against Iran."
In other words: Iran, please do your worst. And just to make it easier, the US has now stacked an entire armada of easy targets in close vicinity, which not even a naive fool can mistake anymore for prewar preparations.
Here is what the naval picture in the Arabian Sea looked like most recently, where courtesy of Stratfor we can see that not only is CVN-65 full steam ahead to its final date with history somewhere off the shores of Iran, but that LHD8 Makin Island crossed the Straits of Hormuz recently. Just because.
Virtually the entire non-parked naval fleet will be in the Arabian Sea and Persian Gulf in the next 4-6 days, where 3 aircraft carriers and one big-deck amphibious warfare ship are just waiting for the order.
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Another war??? Smells like desperation...
GAS PRICES TO THE FUCKING MOON!
whores of wars on Iranian shores
All this because Iran chose to sell oil in something other than US dollars. And gold needs to be seized. LOL.
Unreal. The world will gang up on the US and overthrow it as this idiotic foreign policy escalates in years to come.
off to Uganda now, can't bring the carriers, then South Sudan.
BALOGNA2012
now i know what michelle ob am a meant when she said she was embarrassed to be an american...i think we all feel her pain..
We need a handful of countries to take part in a long-term joint military exercises on Iranian soil. Put, say, a thousand soldiers each from Russia, China, Venezuela, NK, India, Pakistan, and Uzbekistan. Let US/Israel be clear that war with Iran starts WWIII. It's the only way to stop this insanity.
OK, go ahead Zionist-owned America. Ruin itself.
Now that Syria smashed Zionist/NATO/Al Qaeda mercenaries & gangsters and it is ready to join Iran in destroying Israel. God help them. And God help Zionist-free and independent America.
PS
There will not be war before the elections unless Zionist-puppet Obama is ready to declare a Martial Law in America.
Goosfraba.........You Arabs are such emotional creatures!
Don't look now, but Israel is quietly sending warships to the area.
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/03/15/israeli-warships-cross-suez-...
Yeah, they're the ones that are going to sink the Enterprise and blame it on Iran.
Good old Liberty game ;)
Send an email to the Naval Intelligence people on board, this conspiracy has to have occured to some of them right?
Fuck it, we'll do it live!!!
Bill, is that you?
Right. Can we call that Geopolitical Entropy? Or maybe Karma?, or a little visit from the goddess Nemesis? Happens to all empires whether they choose to call themselves "empire" or not.
To build an empire is a crime against some future posterity who will pay the price for the Hubris of their fore-bearers. And those builders - being also hypocrites - will insist that they're doing it for posterity. The irony is thick with those whom power has corrupted.
Say, didn't WB7 make some reference to Ozimandius a few days ago? Same old story.
From the map, it looks like the Middle East is the new 'home away from home' for the US military.
I don't think IranWar imminent yet. Look for one carrier to go off station when the "E" arrives. If all three stay w/in strike range, game on. Odd, tho. 3 CBGs isn't going to be half enough.
But didn't Ben tell Ron when he held up his silver coin that people are free to choose whatever currency they like? Oh, right.... he meant people and not the untermensch we pray on.
That's right.
FYI, "we" does not include "you"
I guess whoever downvoted you doesn't get that destruction is the opposite of production. Or that our wars are financed through the destruction of our own money. Stupid gay statists.
Oh, you're being gay and communist. War kicks ass and helps people with penis perception issues.
What?! They have big dicks?! BOMB THEM!!
...the technical term for this affliction is "dick fear"
Remember: Change We Can Believe In! <wink wink, nod nod>
"Confidence" was years ago, we've moved on from "hope", practically skipped "faith" and now we're getting close to "prayer"
Funny, but whenever I mention Ron Paul to the Ignorati, they reply that his foreign policy is 'idiotic' or 'lunacy'. You really just can't make some people open their eyes and minds to how foreign our current 'foreign policy' is to the Constitution...
Do it, and just use the following as a retort:
"Oh yeah?! Takes one to know one!"
And then sock them in the jaw.
Bingo! Someone here has put two and two together, but how does one overthrow the biggest castle and moat in history? This ends when nukes get lobbed, and my bet is n america will be mostly uninhabitable all said and done... perhaps the n hemisphere. We didnt invade Japan proper for a reason, and this lesson will not be lost on our adversaries when the next real war between legitamite powers erupts.
It's sick isn't it... "...WAR is a racket. It always has been. War is just a racket. A racket is best described,I believe,as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.
There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies,its "muscle men" to destroy enemies,its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism. It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force,the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period,I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business,for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short,I was a racketeer,a gangster for capitalism.
I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession,I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service. I helped make Mexico,especially Tampico,safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested. During those years,I had,as the boys in the back room would say,a swell racket. Looking back on it,I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints.
The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives... In the World War a mere handful garnered the profits of the conflict. At least 21,000 new millionaires and billionaires were made in the United States during the World War. That many admitted their huge blood gains in their income tax returns. How many other war millionaires falsified their tax returns no one knows...
Out of war nations acquire additional territory, if they are victorious. They just take it. This newly acquired territory promptly is exploited by the few – the selfsame few who wrung dollars out of blood in the war. The general public shoulders the bill... And what is this bill? This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones. Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Depression and all its attendant miseries. Back-breaking taxation for generations and generations... ...a war that might well cost us tens of billions of dollars, hundreds of thousands of lives of Americans, and many more hundreds of thousands of physically maimed and mentally unbalanced men.
Of course, for this loss, there would be a compensating profit –fortunes would be made. Millions and billions of dollars would be piled up. By a few. Munitions makers. Bankers. Ship builders. Manufacturers. Meat packers. Speculators. They would fare well. Yes, they are getting ready for another war. Why shouldn't they? It pays high dividends... The normal profits of a business concern in the United States are six, eight, ten, and sometimes twelve percent. But war-time profits – ah! that is another matter – twenty, sixty, one hundred, three hundred, and even eighteen hundred per cent – the sky is the limit. All that traffic will bear. Uncle Sam has the money. Let's get it... Of course, it isn't put that crudely in war time. It is dressed into speeches about patriotism, love of country, and "we must all put our shoulders to the wheel," but the profits jump and leap and skyrocket –and are safely pocketed. It has been estimated by statisticians and economists and researchers that the war cost your Uncle Sam $52,000,000,000. Of this sum, $39,000,000,000 was expended in the actual war itself. This expenditure yielded $16,000,000,000 in profits. That is how the 21,000 billionaires and millionaires got that way. This $16,000,000,000 profits is not to be sneezed at. It is quite a tidy sum. And it went to a very few... Who provides the profits – these nice little profits of 20, 100, 300, 1,500 and 1,800 per cent? We all pay them –in taxation. We paid the bankers their profits when we bought Liberty Bonds at $100.00 and sold them back at $84 or $86 to the bankers. These bankers collected $100 plus. It was a simple manipulation. The bankers control the security marts. It was easy for them to depress the price of these bonds.
Then all of us – the people – got frightened and sold the bonds at $84 or $86. The bankers bought them. Then these same bankers stimulated a boom and government bonds went to par – and above. Then the bankers collected their profits. But the soldier pays the biggest part of the bill. If you don't believe this, visit the American cemeteries on the battlefields abroad. Or visit any of the veteran's hospitals in the United States. On a tour of the country, in the midst of which I am at the time of this writing, I have visited eighteen government hospitals for veterans. In them are a total of about 50,000 destroyed men – men who were the pick of the nation eighteen years ago. The very able chief surgeon at the government hospital; at Milwaukee, where there are 3,800 of the living dead, told me that mortality among veterans is three times as great as among those who stayed at home... ...to hell with war..."
--MAJ General Smedley D. Butler, USMC; 1935 (1935 for Christ's sake, nothing changes, history repeats, the fall of Rome, the fall of the British Empire, the fall of the USSR, and now the end of the USA)...
Nice pic silvertree.
Well, apperently they need to lube-up our ass holes and give us a wiff of poppers to lessen the sudden spike up.
http://www.miniurl.com/s/0Df
Yup, Look at the pretty war I am setting up so you will not look in the back yard and see the burning wreck that is the world economy. So once again, the policeman of the world (USA) is going to be dragged into another war that we can not afford and waste more lives and expensive equipment for Oil and Fucking ISRAEL. WE ARE BROKE AND CAN NOT AFFORD THIS SHIT, ISRAEL FIGHT YOUR OWN WARS YOU ASSHOLES!!!!
I agree. Israel has nukes and we have armed them well over the years to the point that they can take care of themselves. However, most of the Sheeple support a war with Iran so that is what we will get. Will we ever freakin' learn!!!!
Most Americans oppose a war with Iran as do the Pentagon and all US intelligence agencies.
Stage a false-flag and most of the morons (90%+) will support it. Only a minority have woken up to the whole scam.
Would love to see the likes of Laurence Fink, Jim Cramer, basically the entire Federal Reserve board led by Benny Boy and the leader of God's Sanctuary Lord Blanfiend in military gear signing up battle...I would be rooting for the rebels in that battle.
"Stage a false-flag and most of the morons (90%+) will support it."
Correct again. See also: 9-11
I suspect the immediate target is Syria - more popolar.
Just saber rattling witj Iran.
but israel printed all that good money to buy US politicians and MSM outlets... why let that go to waste? why fight a war when you can make the idiot americans do it for you?
But, but Iran supports KONY
http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/kony-2012-state-propaganda-for-a-new-generation/
I understand the point you are making... right up to the "Israel fight your own wars..." comment.
I don't think Israel would have any trouble defending herself. We don't NEED to go in there for her.
Our puppet masters want us to go into Iran because of many factors... the govt. there wasn't toppled by all the rioting, etc. a couple years ago as they had hoped... Iran is maneuvering to distribute oil without using PetroDollars... they have showcased the ability to launch long range missles capable of delivering nuclear warheads... they have stated countless times that they intend to destroy the US.
They are a thorn in the side of the global elitist money controllers and we are the ones who have to deal with it. Our role for them is to be the chosen people who fight and spill blood for their cause.
Zymurguy: Ok, simple question, then why don't we let Israel fight this one on there own? The reason is because the Zionist Lobby will never allow it and it is, wait for it, Yes an election year. Real simple, if we didn't have to support Israel we would not be in half of the bullshit we are in, in the Middle East. So again, Israel should grow a set of balls and FIGHT THERE OWN GODDAMN WARs!
TPTB can always afford lives and expensive equipment for oil
Its time for Obama to sacrifice himself for this country and justify the noble prize he got in advance.
This is not about Isreal. That is the side show. This is about the "petro dollar" status and a dying currency. Say hello to the SDR. But will it be backed by gold? I presume they will do all they can to prevent that.
"ISRAEL FIGHT YOUR OWN WARS YOU ASSHOLES!!!!"
But they do..they just prefer to fight it on Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian and ,if must be, on US soil.
pushing India as well?
India really close to the edge with oil prices rising..
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-15/u-s-may-sanction-india-over-level-of-iran-oil-imports.html
Tension rises, oil lower. "They" will not let the economy collapse in case Iran is attacked or attacks. Iran is a hype. Boring world we live in.
My question is how the " growth" will look like with China and russia involved in this war?
Now we can finally witness the awesome power, not of the United States, but the awesome power of Israel. If they wanted Iraq gone, Iraq is gone. Now even in the mist of economic disaster, Israel wants Iran, a major oil producer, gone, Iran will be gone.
Witness sheeple: the awesome power of your true master.
They were so powerful against Hezbollah a few years back.
E-7...........KABOOOOOMMMMM!!!!
You sunk my battleship!!!!!!
Brent just tmbled 3% in a few seconds... Why?
I see oil reserves release by the US and UK...
The oil price decrease is transitory.
the "release" consists of writing oil contracts or selling calls, or both, if ya wanna go steep & deep
it is a paper oil play; same as last time; oil is fungible; so, thanks for the money, and we'll cover the shorts, later... buh-bye!
From the looks of things it will be up 20% in a couple weeks...
'Iran, do your worst....if you dont, dont worry we have a big false flag planned to pin on you so either way, we're good.'
You know, its the poor guys on those aircraft carriers they are planning to sacrifice to get their war.
Live by the sword...
If you're in the US military and you don't yet realize you're a tool of imperialism, you've got nothing to fear from war - you're already brain-dead.
Those poor guys were economically unviable. They knew what are they signing for.
So will this be another:
Maine
Pearl Harbor
Gulf of Tonkin
Lusitania
USS Liberty
?
Don't forget the Thornton Affair.
edit -- Yes, down voting is far easier than looking the damned thing up in Google. Must have been a "truther."
If THAT scenario plays out, all bets are off..
in all things... everywhere.
911
"So will this be another:"
Remember the Big E....
You forgot Lavon Affair - jews as usual.
Will Iran take the bait? Place your bets.
No, but that doesnt matter. Im sure they have a nice juicy 9-11 planned to pin on Iran this time.
Just a guess...
The USA years ago has said that any nuclear event here or in Israel would be considered an act-of-war against the US. It would not surprise me to see a small nukie detonated on the Israeli coast- mushroom cloud, no damage. Immediately following this would be the Enterprise incident.
Whoever said "a little nukie never hurt anyone" wasn't talking about this kind of nukie (or was it nooky?).
They cannot do anything, all this is scare tactics. They would collapse the global economy if this war starts.. or may be that's the goal altogether!.
Yea of course, perfect way out for all of them start world war.
That's the idea. they need an excuse for what's going to happen anyway.
its do or die for the NWO, the moment of truth. my bet, this time, they have gone too far.
Just think of all the upsides...
a) kill off some more useless eaters, we need sustainable population levels
b) get rid of another one of those pesky countries without a private central bank
c) bring more democracy and hope and change to those who so desparately need it
I could go on.....
Don't forget the oil. It's all about the oil.
It's all about the petrodollar.
The petrodollar will soon be revealed to be merely a fossil. Then it will be time for the Bernanke to start pumping abiotic FRNs like there's no tomorrow.
petrodollar --> Reserve Currency
The only thing holding this farce is the ability to print reserve currency.
That is the real reason the US needs to put a stop to it and send a message to Russia, India, China and even Venezuela. The Jews interest just align with the US (Get rid of enemy and take lands). The US is NOT a puppet to Israel even though they might be trying to take advantage of the situation.
The real question is how close is Iran, Brazil, Russia, India, and Venezuela to breaking the petrodollar. Based on what I have seen this month, they are very desperate. Here are some clues:
- Gold smashed very costly. They just threw the hammer in there.
- Commodities lowered just on Bernake's comments without any real action.
- Oil hammered today on "rumors" from the US and UK.
- Hilary sending message to Iran through "Russia." what is up with that? And looks like Putin got a leg up from foreign sources, so they are staying out.
- India is getting threatened too for the second or third time.
- Israel's central bank can now buy stock, so they will be propping the stock market. Wealth effect.
Maybe, I am just becoming too paranoid, but it all looks like ground work for a war. The smell of desperation is a stench by now.
How soon? Well the treasuries are rising and will go ballistic if no printing comes. The US government is still going to borrow even more money. Rising yields, Jew money demanding action BEFORE the elections (they won't take promises from politicians), the reserve currency status been challenge, Europe also needs a side show those are all pressure points right now.
d) destroy one of the last remaining intact cultures that has avoided the fate of most western countries in the last 100+ years.
We won't destroy the culture, just change it as we always do. Starting with Big Mac signs all over the place.
It's on. Jerks.
Massive frontrunning of the oil reserves release news two hours earlier in brent...
Bullish.
What's Putin's next move I wonder.
Sign the new Iranian oil contracts America "secures" for him in exchange for turning a blind eye? I'm hoping that's not what happens, but time will tell. Everyone has their price.
The US and Europe gave support to Putin's election, so .....
Just out from Brother Nathaniel: How Putin Will Change The World: http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=704
Skynet has already won. Just like launching the nukes against the Russians caused them to retaliate. The US will enter a war with Iran and by extension its allies Russia and China who have more than one nuclear weapon.
Russia and China will not go to war over Iran any more than they went to war over Iraq or Afghanistan. It's not in their self-interest to do so. It would be like U.S. going to war with China over Tibet. Stop viewing the world through the lens of a Tom Clancy novel.
US goes to war with Iran.
US wins war with Iran.
US controls all of ME oil and delivery.
US chokes off all ME oil delivery to China.
US controls growth of China, therefore maintains control over Asia.
Does that sound about right? If I were China, I would go to war over Iran. Unless, of course, China is in cahoots with the US. That'll be the day, wouldn't it?
We don't have to speculate, we can look to the example of Iraq to see what would happen with Iran's oil. The U.S. doesn't need Iran's oil. Daily oil consumption in the U.S. is falling. So what would the U.S. do if it captured Iran's oil? Would we use it? No, we don't need it. Would we ship it to the U.S. and store it? No, our storage facilities are already full. What would happen (as what happened with Iraq) is we would release the Iranian oil to the open market.
Now, let's say the U.S. were to say China doesn't get to buy Iran's oil. So what. Oil is fungible. If China couldn't buy it from Iran, they would buy it from someone else. Assuming we don't destroy the Iranian oil infrastructure, the supply of oil on the world market would be more or less the same. If Russia and China are that pissed off, Russia could simply cut off Europe from its oil and sell it to China. There is no way the U.S. would withhold Iran's oil from the global market because oil prices would spike and there is a direct correlation between gas prices and Obama's re-election chances.
So, no your scenario doesn't sound right. The only way to keep Iran's oil from China is by U.S. military occupation of Iran. If that happened, Russia and China would flood the Iranian resistance movement with as much small arms, missiles, and IED's as they could handle.
US doesn't need Iran's oil, they need everyone to keep selling their oil for US dollars. This hegemony and the reserve currency status are the only two things that give the US dollar value.
Bingo. Currently, every single person on the planet who uses oil (gasoline) is actually using USD thru proxy. This worldwide demand for USD is what keeps the value so high. If the oil exporters stop selling exclusively in USD, demand for USD will crash, sending them all back home and causing rampant inflation.
AND when demand for USD drops, our national debt becomes an even larger problem.
AND Treasury yields go to the moon just like Greece. Default becomes the only option.
Maybe Iran will pull a Paul-Muad Dib and booby trap the oil fields. Remember, Dune and its spice was a metaphore for the Middle East and its oil. "The power to destroy a thing is the absolute control over it." I would certainly be considering a scorched earth policy if I were them. Everything I have heard about them for years indicates that they have been preparing for this moment for years. They are even training women and girls in ninjitsu, for crying out loud. I believe we will pay dearly for any oil we take out of Iran. Pride goeth before a fall.
US wants to destroy oil supply from Iran, just like Libya and Iraq. Once Iran is gone, apart from Russia & Venezuela all major oil producers will be Pro American. Oil is and will be sold in dollars.
Russia: Does not care because nobody is taking away their oil, if anything it will sell at a higher price, so they might just be cheering behind the sceens.
China: Are the manufacturers of the world and will be used as a sweat shop for the forseeable future, unless they fall apart from within.
A much simpler reason why no one will come to Iran's rescue is:
1. USA spends 6 times more on military than China which is the second largest military spender.
2. USA spends approximately as much as the 14 next out of the top 15 military spenders.
3. Out of the top 15 military spenders, only China, Russia, India and Brazil are not allies of USA. India and Brazil will not fight against USA.
4. Nobody wants a Nuclear war, because a nuclear war has no winners.
5. If it does get to a nuclear war, then all deliberations are futile.
Moreover, once demand destruction starts in earnest who is going to miss the Iranian Oil?
The American objective over here would be:
1. Oil is and will be sold in dollars.
2. Reduce polulations across the globe.
I dont see how someone is going to stop the USA.
pretty sure your scenario leaves out China having a military, Russia being an ally with Iran & Pakistan having oil interests, as well as India. Pretty much ignoring that they are all nuclear nations.
I'm betting Russia intercedes with Iranian air-space & that a US carrier gets sunk if war starts.
Maybe 30% chance nukes are lobbed.
Iran supplies more energy to China than Saudi Arabia supplies to the US. They can not just sit back and take it. China will do something in a most inscrutable manner.
No you are correct. All China has to do is start a massive sellout of U.S. treasuries, and create financial Armageddon world wide. They don't even have to fire a single shot. Iran may be isolated from markets in the West, but they have access to more than 2 billion people market in the East. The real idiots here is the West for cutting off financial ties to Iran. Now they will have no idea what Iran does with its finances because they no longer can count the total amount of wealth that is transiting back in forth between Tehran, and the East.
Well done to Western ideology on that one. I guess they failed to remember you should keep your enemies closer than your friends...
Right on. The US already cut a deal with China, and they will get a piece of the pie to be sure.
They may not go to "War" but remember November of 1950. When our troops were almost to the Yalu river in North Korea....we were overun by the Chinese People's Volunteer Army. And, two Air Divisions of the Russian Air Force.
Russia? Russia loves higher oil prices and if the US/NATO/Israel force destroys Iran/Syria military hardware, Russia will be there again to sell new weapons if the fighting continues or when the smoke clears. what Russia doesn't want is a US presence on their borders but there's not much they can do about it unless they want to invade the former USSR territories.
Capitalist
The US will enter a war with Iran and by extension its allies Russia and China who have more than one nuclear weapon.
MAI
Mutually Insured Insanity.
Sub launch to any major US ,Russian,Chinese city, FOUR minutes or less, ICBM's 30 mins or less.
Neither are stupid enough to sacrifice their nations to save Iran's ass.
Alllah Akbarstool
It's just a fucking excuse to release oil reserved. To take some pressure off of the administration for high gas prices.
What pressure? High oil prices = GOOD NEWS! Economy recovering, the higher gas prices means the better we're feeling!
But the Sheeple are blaming Obama and this is an election year, so gas prices must be kept low at all costs!
I believe Israel will strike Iran after the elections take place. O doesn't want high gas prices this close to the election.
The conspiracy that is easy to see is more likey a distraction. Like all of American politics, as an example.
Gas prices have no effect on the presidential election's outcome. No matter what the gas prices are, you'll end up with a fascist bankster puppet. Romney is no different that Obama, and that's on purpose. They may appear different, but they are not.
Employment is the key for Obama's re-election. Plenty of jobs in the army during war time.
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Everyone is complaining about high gas prices, but I'm liking some of the effects--the idiots who think they need a big truck to feel like a big man are suddenly having to face up to their inadequacies. People who drive huge SUVs for similar status reasons are taking a long look in the mirror. You are not the car you drive. You are not your fucking khakis!
The same with food prices--yeah, it's a bitch, but the fatties are going to have to either pony up or lose a lot of weight.
Austerity means less stupidity in general because no one has the luxury of being so foolish anymore. And hey, if gas goes to $10/gal, we might see some real political reform.
Your car is what you want to be, your house is what you are.
Russia along with Iran (Persia), Sudan, maybe even Turkey - against Israel and the Western backing...
Stay tuned... but i think things are on hold until after elections.
To much $money$ to be made with the Queens 60th Juiblee...and upcoming big events:
London Olympic Games,
U.S. Presidential Elections,
Euro2012 (soccer),
All huge $$$ events - and more importantly - symbolic.
Do you think the Queens 60th jubilee is going to be interrupted by bulshit war - close by? I dont think so right yet. Maybe, but i think all is on hold for a bit. Just strategic manouvering and jocking for position...
Disagree, they're that insane that they think they'll be able to beat Iran in a few weeks and nobody at home will have their lives disrupted. They're in for a shock I believe. It is on (as another poster said). I think Turkey will try to join NATOs side, I mean the bankers side.
Oh I think the biggest part of the plan is americans lives disrupted, big time! The final move in the monetization ponzi collapse is next.
Also - the Arabs are a bit different than the Persians - so to speak.
Yes, they share the same Muslim faith - but have different opposing views.
Please correct me if im wrong.
a few weeks, huh? I'm sure tha may be the idea floated, but it strikes me as eerily similar to how we were able to roll over Iragi defemses and declare Mission Accomplished in short order, but the war raged on for nearly a decade.
Iran is not going to attack first.
It will only appear that they attacked first when the "to-be-decommissioned" USS Enterprise is sunk!
The famous USS Enterprise is to be the sacrificial lamb. And if I'm a crew member, I'd request to be stationed (and sleep) in a lifeboat!
Inconceivable!!!!
the absolute unlikelihood of such an event is only augmented by all the hysterical predictions concerning such an outcome.
Yeah, but wouldn't it be really cool to have called it, and to be able to go back to online publication and say to people, see, these guys called it. Of course, I would leave to a different country after that point. DHS would totally would be suiciding your ass just for good measure...
These mad animals running our nations in the west are getting very very desperate indeed.
As with most criminal activities Desperation is indeed the motivation. However as with the various subversion/destabilization campaigns and geopolitical stratagems, especially recently witnessed in the Middle East/North Africa, military contingency has been in the planning stages for several years with active abetting from fifth column elements within the targeted opposition itself.
While the Obama regime runs off balance cover for adamantly hawkish fellow Zionists, feinting alternately bellicosity and disengagement, the stage is being set for the inevitable homicidal confrontation, the inner dynamic of which has involved the patient and unremitting decades long psychological conditioning of the American populace.
The continual heightening of suspense, which will soon become unbearable, is essential to the ultimate success of the mind/war psyops, which must subliminally persuade the soon to be panicking masses that the source of all their inbred fear is the now detestable image of projected evil, the elimination of which is the only possible release from the jaws of conundrum.
As has been constantly reiterated, the bottling up of major components of the seemingly invincible US fleet in the Persian Gulf is a strategic nightmare scenario obviously designed to ensure maximum possibility of swift effective and deadly response by otherwise quite limited Iranian offensive capabilities.
You write like an English major.
They are broke, mad and off their rocker.
Do not expect reason or logic from them.
They have nothing to loose. We will pay the price.
They better slow down, the bump to O's ratings will have worn off long before November.
Going short on the Big E
Hey Iran,
Relax... we got this one... no action required.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
Things certainly look hotter then normal over there; too many things are adding up for a perfect storm to dismiss this as the US merely flexing muscle this time around IMO.
Iran or iRan?
Keep an eye on the USS George Washington CVN-73. It's in it's home port of Yohosuka Japan and it will pull out and head to the Gulf to provide a 4th flattop or move near Taiwan to keep the Chines in check.
china can do watever they want in eastern asia, and there aint a damn thing we can do about it. In a landwar if china called up their reserves, they would have a 300 million man standing army. We simply have nothing to stop that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_Avenger
There is no such thing as fielding a 300mm man Army, and there is no longer any such thing as a land war in the traditional sense.
You can't deploy troops without the logistical capability to move them around and feed them. China (nor anybody else) has the logistical ability to do this for numbers even approaching 3mm, much less 300 million. So that argument is a non-starter... It would take more planes, trucks, tents, camp stoves, rolls of toilet paper and rations that exist on earth to move an Army of 10mm, much less 30 times that amount...
In consolation - your first sentence was correct regardless...
China has any carrier within 3000km of its shoreline in check...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-21D#DF-21D_.28CSS-5_Mod-4.29_Anti-ship_ballistic_missile
There have also been reports of Chinese subs tailing and popping up in the middle of carrier groups completely undetected...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/nov/13/20061113-121539-3317r/?page=all
How do you know those subs weren't detected? Do you believe everything you read in the papers?
Do you understand that the Chinese would follow a protocol to approach the carrier task force, and get within it. It would be reasonable to expect other Chinese subs to follow a similar protocol in expectation of being successful.
Did the Chinese tip their hand when they went all in?
Texas Hold'em, Navy style.
If I were Iran, I would not initiate an attack, nor would I respond to an attack. Therefore, the only plausible action is for a US false flag. Oh well.
Why is no one pointing out that removing Iran's access to SWIFT is an act of war?
The next war's first casualty, Truth, just keeled over.
There have been all sorts of acts of war already. People being cute with language doesn't change the reality. I would say targeting scientists for assassination, sabotaguing computer systems, munitions mishaps at Iranian facilities, economic embargoes... again... semantics aside, we've been at war for some time now.
Agreed, and I certainly didn't mean to suggest the SWIFT expulsion was the only act of war directed against Iran. (SEAL teams are probably in-country now, as they certainly are in Syria, "conditioning the battle space.")
SWIFT moves financial information between 9,000 institutions in 209 countries. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_for_Worldwide_Interbank_Financial_T...)
The difficulty Iran will have conducting international trade without SWIFT would be hard to overstate. No country has ever been removed from the SWIFT system, until now.
Ironically, this may hasten the end of the US dollar's reign as the currency of international settlement, imo, as other nations make non-dollar arrangements with Iran for its oil. This is not a development the US wants to see. Check Bloomberg article today regarding US threats to India for importing Iranian oil. (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-15/u-s-may-sanction-india-over-lev...)
Removing Iran from the world's markets and publicly bully it and provoke it is a great way to get Iran to get nukes ASAP.
Think about it this way, with nukes:
- If Israel attacked Iran they would nuke Israel.
- If the US attacked Iran they would nuke the US fleets in the region an their base in Bahrain, plus maybe some strategicaly important Oil infrastructure of the US' allies in the region.
After being disconnected from world trade and publicly threathened by Israel, the US and the UK with war, it makes all sense for Iran to get themselves as soon as possible in a strategic M.A.D. situation: it worked for North Korea.
I think you are over-estimating Iran's capabilities. They don't even have a nuclear bomb capable of being attached to a ballistic missile at this point. Even if they did, both Israel and the US Fleet have significant anti-missile capabilities.
I'm telling you Putin had a deadly look in his eye during his election victory speech.. he really looked different.. like someone who just went all in at the poker table.
Good point Putin is a poker player, not an Ayatollah.
What the hell does "deadly look in his eye" mean? Putin is smart. The Chinese leadership is smart. They will view things in terms of risk vs reward. What is the reward in going to WW III with the U.S. over Iran for Russia and China? Very little (actually nothing). What is the risk? That their political structure along with their countries are annihilated.
What's more, Obama will not be in the same situation that Bush was before Iraq II. His political base will not sit passively by if he starts bombing Iran. The only way the U.S. can "win" any conflict with Iraq is through military occupation. If the U.S. does this, and anything goes wrong in terms of U.S casualties then Obama is toast in the 2012 elections. Ironically, a U.S. attack on Iran would be the best thing that could happen to Ron Paul's campaign.