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"The Entire System Has Been Utterly Destroyed By The MF Global Collapse" - Presenting The First MF Global Casualty

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Presented without comment, merely to confirm that the market as we know it, no longer exists.

BCM Has Ceased Operations (source)
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - November 17, AD 2011 10:27 AM MST

Dear Clients, Industry Colleagues and Friends of Barnhardt Capital Management,

It is with regret and unflinching moral certainty that I announce that Barnhardt Capital Management has ceased operations. After six years of operating as an independent introducing brokerage, and eight years of employment as a broker before that, I found myself, this morning, for the first time since I was 20 years old, watching the futures and options markets open not as a participant, but as a mere spectator.

The reason for my decision to pull the plug was excruciatingly simple: I could no longer tell my clients that their monies and positions were safe in the futures and options markets – because they are not. And this goes not just for my clients, but for every futures and options account in the United States. The entire system has been utterly destroyed by the MF Global collapse. Given this sad reality, I could not in good conscience take one more step as a commodity broker, soliciting trades that I knew were unsafe or holding funds that I knew to be in jeopardy.

The futures markets are very highly-leveraged and thus require an exceptionally firm base upon which to function. That base was the sacrosanct segregation of customer funds from clearing firm capital, with additional emergency financial backing provided by the exchanges themselves. Up until a few weeks ago, that base existed, and had worked flawlessly. Firms came and went, with some imploding in spectacular fashion. Whenever a firm failure happened, the customer funds were intact and the exchanges would step in to backstop everything and keep customers 100% liquid – even as their clearing firm collapsed and was quickly replaced by another firm within the system.

Everything changed just a few short weeks ago. A firm, led by a crony of the Obama regime, stole all of the non-margined cash held by customers of his firm. Let’s not sugar-coat this or make this crime seem “complex” and “abstract” by drowning ourselves in six-dollar words and uber-technical jargon. Jon Corzine STOLE the customer cash at MF Global. Knowing Jon Corzine, and knowing the abject lawlessness and contempt for humanity of the Marxist Obama regime and its cronies, this is not really a surprise. What was a surprise was the reaction of the exchanges and regulators. Their reaction has been to take a bad situation and make it orders of magnitude worse. Specifically, they froze customers out of their accounts WHILE THE MARKETS CONTINUED TO TRADE, refusing to even allow them to liquidate. This is unfathomable. The risk exposure precedent that has been set is completely intolerable and has destroyed the entire industry paradigm. No informed person can continue to engage these markets, and no moral person can continue to broker or facilitate customer engagement in what is now a massive game of Russian Roulette.

I have learned over the last week that MF Global is almost certainly the mere tip of the iceberg. There is massive industry-wide exposure to European sovereign junk debt. While other firms may not be as heavily leveraged as Corzine had MFG leveraged, and it is now thought that MFG’s leverage may have been in excess of 100:1, they are still suicidally leveraged and will likely stand massive, unmeetable collateral calls in the coming days and weeks as Europe inevitably collapses. I now suspect that the reason the Chicago Mercantile Exchange did not immediately step in to backstop the MFG implosion was because they knew and know that if they backstopped MFG, they would then be expected to backstop all of the other firms in the system when the failures began to cascade – and there simply isn’t that much money in the entire system. In short, the problem is a SYSTEMIC problem, not merely isolated to one firm.

Perhaps the most ominous dynamic that I have yet heard of in regards to this mess is that of the risk of potential CLAWBACK actions. For those who do not know, “clawback” is the process by which a bankruptcy trustee is legally permitted to re-seize assets that left a bankrupt entity in the time period immediately preceding the entity’s collapse. So, using the MF Global customers as an example, any funds that were withdrawn from MFG accounts in the run-up to the collapse, either because of suspicions the customer may have had about MFG from, say, watching the company’s bond yields rise sharply, or from purely organic day-to-day withdrawls, the bankruptcy trustee COULD initiate action to “clawback” those funds. As a hedge broker, this makes my blood run cold. Generally, as the markets move in favor of a hedge position and equity builds in a client’s account, that excess equity is sent back to the customer who then uses that equity to offset cash market transactions OR to pay down a revolving line of credit. Even the possibility that a customer could be penalized and additionally raped AGAIN via a clawback action after already having their customer funds stolen is simply villainous. While there has been no open indication of clawback actions being initiated by the MF Global trustee, I have been told that it is a possibility.

And so, to the very unpleasant crux of the matter. The futures and options markets are no longer viable. It is my recommendation that ALL customers withdraw from all of the markets as soon as possible so that they have the best chance of protecting themselves and their equity. The system is no longer functioning with integrity and is suicidally risk-laden. The rule of law is non-existent, instead replaced with godless, criminal political cronyism.

Remember, derivatives contracts are NOT NECESSARY in the commodities markets. The cash commodity itself is the underlying reality and is not dependent on the futures or options markets. Many people seem to have gotten that backwards over the past decades. From Abel the animal husbandman up until the year 1964, there were no cattle futures contracts at all, and no options contracts until 1984, and yet the cash cattle markets got along just fine.

Finally, I will not, under any circumstance, consider reforming and re-opening Barnhardt Capital Management, or any other iteration of a brokerage business, until Barack Obama has been removed from office AND the government of the United States has been sufficiently reformed and repopulated so as to engender my total and complete confidence in the government, its adherence to and enforcement of the rule of law, and in its competent and just regulatory oversight of any commodities markets that may reform. So long as the government remains criminal, it would serve no purpose whatsoever to attempt to rebuild the futures industry or my firm, because in a lawless environment, the same thievery and fraud would simply happen again, and the criminals would go unpunished, sheltered by the criminal oligarchy.

To my clients, who literally TO THE MAN agreed with my assessment of the situation, and were relieved to be exiting the markets, and many whom I now suspect stayed in the markets as long as they did only out of personal loyalty to me, I can only say thank you for the honor and pleasure of serving you over these last years, with some of my clients having been with me for over twelve years. I will continue to blog at, which will be subtly re-skinned soon, and will continue my cattle marketing consultation business. I will still be here in the office, answering my phones, with the same phone numbers. Alas, my retirement came a few years earlier than I had anticipated, but there was no possible way to continue given the inevitability of the collapse of the global financial markets, the overthrow of our government, and the resulting collapse in the rule of law.

As for me, I can only echo the words of David:

“This is the Lord’s doing; and it is wonderful in our eyes.”

With Best Regards-
Ann Barnhardt


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Thu, 11/17/2011 - 22:06 | 1889980 Silver Bully
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Do you people get who she is? She is a true canary in the coal mine. Farmers and ranchers hedge their losses (crop failuires, herd deaths) through people like her. She is not up in some penthouse in Wall Street. She is the Farmer and Rancher's insurance agent against short term catastrophe. She is not some manager running the show for a bunch of retail idjits who can't get their gold back.

She's in the middle of what make this country's farm and cattle ranches FUNCTION. Farmers and ranchers need this type of hedge protection EVERY SEASON. If people like her are getting out, ranchers and farmers have a problem. They can no longer safely hedge their seasonal losses, so they have to increase the price of their commodities. Which WILL mean DIRECT PRICE INCREASES FOR YOU AND ME AT THE STORE. She is not some fifth wheel money maker, she is a direct hedger for real people growing real stuff.

If more people like her back out, we are in trouble. YOU and ME. Not just Wall Street.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 06:08 | 1890640 Wild tree
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Truth spoken SB. Through a glass darkly.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:32 | 1888216 Manthong
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You are OWNED.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:11 | 1888509 SumSUN
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Well, actually we are the big club, and THEY aint in it.  And we know who they are.  :)


Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:40 | 1888761 Lord Koos
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Right, but they know who we are, where we are, if they care to look.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:14 | 1889032 defn8Dog
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A jr member of the Stan Druckenmiller Club, founded August, 2010.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 13:42 | 1891688 srelf
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It's a big (fat) club, and you ain't in it.!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:27 | 1888171 GetZeeGold
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Beyond words.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:35 | 1888242 Carlyle Groupie
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Perhaps but at least tell us an AUM total.

Put things in perspective.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:47 | 1888323 Imminent Crucible
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Somehow, it's fitting that it should start with a woman. A woman with more balls than Leprechaun Lloyd or Joe Cassano.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:30 | 1888191 Stoploss
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This one's a holy fucking shit.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:37 | 1888257 CPL
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You are down playing the's a holy motherfucking shit.


Look at Libor...definitely a holy mother fucking shit.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:54 | 1888361 Randall Cabot
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a fucking holy motherfucking shit

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 16:32 | 1892321 Fuckin Floyd
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You took the words right outa my mouth.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:33 | 1888192 scatterbrains
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and why has the  King James Bible been trending in the #1  spot all day on yahoo ?

ok back for a re-read!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:45 | 1888314 Hapte
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Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:47 | 1888324 CPL
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There's an app for that.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:14 | 1888539 DosZap
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Simple, go to the last Book, it's all there.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:28 | 1889125's picture

I read the dictionary. It's literally all in there.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:42 | 1888215 Contra_Man
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In other words: "Fuck You YOU Fucking Fucks - have a good night."

Now, then Bitchez ...  Is it time yet for some serious democratic changes - or things working for you still?

 "Pass This Bill" and remove corporate power from politics:

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:59 | 1888403 NotApplicable
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If you think that a criminal syndicate can be neutered with harsh words on paper... well, don't be surprised when it only makes things worse.

It's all the previous harsh words that created the fantasy world we live in today.

How about you put down the gun, and start governing yourself for a change? Or is violence over others all you've got?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:35 | 1888685 IQ 101
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Egypt was neutered by an Exodus many years ago, following numerous plagues,

I believe a new Exodus has just begun, at many levels, this statement being another indicator.

John Galt as Moses.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:30 | 1889135's picture

Also starring Lily Munster as Dagney Taggert,

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:35 | 1888241 HedgeAccordingly
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shit* - time to go swimming -

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:40 | 1888272 CPL
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Too much in terms of fabric. 


That shortie needs to be naked, she is how ever maturing as a six month investment vehicle though.  I wouldn't hold it any longer than that.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:01 | 1888434 Logiclee03
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Nice pic....Mila will be in NC this weekend at the Marine Corps Ball with a lucky man.....HooHaaa!!!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:42 | 1888286 IrritableBowels
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I have the chills.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:46 | 1888320 Panafrican Funk...
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Small fry, does her futures trading through Penson.  Making a "moral stand" until "Obama is out of office", holy fuck levels of naivete.  I give her credit for getting her client money out of Penson accounts though, definitely a strong "MF Part 2" candidate.  And to think, the futures commission merchants thought they were immuned to getting whacked.  Sorry charlie, if you're in the business of skimming, the big fish are eventually going to get you.  

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:29 | 1888658 Panafrican Funk...
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Regarding the junks:

1.  Either you're misinterpreting my post re: Obama (I view both parties with equal disdain), or

2.  You trade through Penson, and have not removed the blinders.  

If you're still in the left/right paradigm, I'm not sure anything I write is going to convince you to move beyond it.  If you trade through Penson and think your safe, you're really, really not, please refrain from discounting counterparty risk.  If you work for Penson, please apply for a different job, doing something productive for society.  Thanks.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:01 | 1888426 Stax Edwards
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Never heard of her.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:10 | 1888501 sondog
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Wow someone with a .biz domain lost their money and their parents money and hates Obama. Big news. How will the market handle the liquidation of 60k of assets??

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:13 | 1888524 Deadpool
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I hope she blogs here under her real handle....

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:22 | 1888581 CrashisOptimistic
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This gal is a fucking hero, soon to be branded a wacko.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 18:15 | 1889302 buyingsterling
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Done and done, see above. She's been featured on ZH before, now the leftist zeroes say she's a small fry crybaby because she's a libertarian/conservative. She may be small, but she's honest.



THIS IS THE LEFT RIGHT PARADIGM: Thinking that one party is going to extricate this country from this mess, and holding to party over shared principles. 


It doesn't mean we overlook the childish, venal, controlling, murderous nature of the left and collectivism in general. Their ideas are not the way out, only the way to more misery. The message should be: fuck the democrats and the GOP and their _shared commitment to collectivism_.



Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:23 | 1888604 Clayton Bigsby
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Dude - my sentiments exactly...

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:25 | 1888620 SilverRhino
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Ann Barnhardt just went and pulled a John Galt - "Fuck it, I'm outta here."

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:50 | 1888851 eureka
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Fuck John Galt - and Ayn Rand too - pretensious moronic garbarge; nobody "creates" wealth" - all wealth is leveraged from other people's sweat and or pockets.

Just a little common sense rationality.

Stop the icon worship already.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:03 | 1888965 ReadySteadyGo
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Fuck you.  I create wealth.  Your comment illustrates the total abstraction of value from people and what they can do.

If this were the Animal Farm, you'd be one of the pigs, but hate yourself for it.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:14 | 1889036 eureka
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You are an idiot - you may create a living, not wealth - I create a living too - so fuck you too right back at you.

WEALTH - is created by opportunities and synergies whcih no man creates but only rides. Even Warren Buffet says so - you wanna tell him to fuck himself too - Mr. ReadySteadyGo ?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:32 | 1889148's picture

Allow me. Fuck you Uncle Warren!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 18:30 | 1889358 buyingsterling
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wealth comes from taking something in nature and fashioning it into something useful. Finding those things is the real creation of wealth (invention), the fashioning of it shifts around the resources already extracted from the earth.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 01:01 | 1890380 ReadySteadyGo
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I very honestly would tell him to go fuck himself, straight up, eye to eye.

Actually, I see your point, in a way; at no point in the past did I go supernova and create heavier elements.  Of course, now we're splitting hairs.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:20 | 1889083 eureka
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FYI ignorati - Ayn Rand was a zionist banker tool.

Look it up!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:28 | 1889122 CIABS
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as a public intellectual, ayn rand is an absolute joke.  as a propagandist, a real master, very insidious, very dangerous.  very effective.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:34 | 1889155's picture

Right. People should never follow their passions and should always be encouraged to sacrifice their ideals for the moochers and looters in religion and politics.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:45 | 1889212 eureka
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If your passion clouds your reason your intellect is crucified.

Example: Ayn Rand's book "The New Intellectual", attempts to usurp language for elitarian purposes by claiming her "new intellectual" is someone who acts rather than thinks - a rather idiotic or at least oxymoronic claim, which, as all right wing elitarian usurption of objective language, only fools those whose intellects are not trained in critical analysis.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 18:47 | 1889426 CIABS
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ayn rand is for a certain subset of adolescent boys and young men, just as they begin to be tempted by megalomania and moral contrarianism.  her admirers and proteges end up working to thwart various kinds of social cooperation, which was the outcome that she intended.  but social cooperation does not imply socialism or communism or marxism.  if we soon find ourselves in an environment devoid of social cooperation, there will be some rethinking of this hostility.  the vast majority of americans suffer increasingly as a result of this decades-long attack on the social fabric, and it looks like some sort of reckoning will come soon.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 19:10 | 1889525's picture

You've never read Ayn rand have you? If you have, why do you misrepresent what she's said? Galt's Gulch was a model of social cooperation. How did you miss that?


Thu, 11/17/2011 - 19:54 | 1889670's picture

her "new intellectual" is someone who acts rather than thinks - a rather idiotic or at least oxymoronic claim, which, as all right wing elitarian usurption of objective language, only fools those whose intellects are not trained in critical analysis


Ayn Rand used provocative language as a literary device but she was nothing if not objective. It was her bread and butter.

As for your assertion that Rand's readers are fools, I'd simply like to counter by saying that you are a total dumbass. You see, I can rise to your level of critical analysis any day of the week.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:39 | 1888750 jonan
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this girl has more ballz than bernank...

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:46 | 1888830 eureka
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It would be great if Ann were right - i.e. if Wall Street faces an imminent crash and the unholy US mafia Empire with it.

However, Ann is small potatoes, arch-right-wing militant and probably proto-capitalist; sure, Obama is one Anti-Christ but so are the Koch brothers and the rest of the US elite whether republican or democrat.

You can check Ann's militarist pretenses here:

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:19 | 1889064 eureka
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Every red down-arrow on my previous post represents a KOCH_BROTHERS-LOVER - i.e. a proto-crony-capitalist worshipper and oligarch-celebrity cock-sucker.

Get it straight people - look in the mirror and declare whom you love: Money and the people who steal it from the working slaves or GOD and his working masses salt of the earth people - who is it you serve and identify with?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:36 | 1889169's picture

You're a little full of yourself, aren't you. Isn't it possible that people disagree with you for their own reasons rather than because some grand Koch conspiracy is out to defame you personally?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:54 | 1889255 eureka
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It's neither about me nor you - this is a comentary and debate forum - it's about ideas - and Koch Brothers' idea is to pay workers minimum scale and outlaw unions and control congress via lobbying and bribes - i.e. good ol' right-wing idea called 'crony-capitalism' as opposed to free market capitalism.

I'm full of one great idea: fuck all cronies - or as we say in colloquial speech: fuck the cock-suckers a.k.a. brown-nosers - a.k.a. the elite and their submissive servants & henchmen.

Free men admire neither 'wealth' nor the people who steal it.

I said that - and I stick by it.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 18:55 | 1889459 Moe Howard
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Why have you gone full retard?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 19:40 | 1889629 eureka
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Please elaborate...what does "full retard" mean?

Does "full retard" mean "refuses to admire and worship wealth and those who steal it"?  If so, yes.

Steve Jobs' Apple sits on $82 Billion Cash, accumulated by Chinese slave-labor manufactured products sold to US up-leveraged consumers financed by Chinese purchases of US Federal Bonds, which "proceeds" a.k.a. borrowed money is given to US TBTF banksters on behalf of their elite masters.

Steve Jobs is dead. Did he create "wealth"? Do the Chinese slave laborers at Foxcon? Do US consumers when they buy their holy talisman I-icons - ipads, ipods, iphones?

What good the this "wealth" do the US IRS? US labor markets? And Steve Jobs' soul?

We move stuff around and then we die. The question is: how do we move the stuff? Smiling and sharing - or fighting and hording?

"If you want to follow me, then sell everything you own and give the money to the poor, then come and flollow me".

It is easier for a camel to enter through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom Of Heaven?

Why have I gone "full retard"? Well, moe, Because the darkness is coming and all men must choose before it is too late - and it was and is greed, materialism & its institutions of EMPIRE, who crucified The Lord - or if you're an atheist, the best man who ever lived - and I tell you that I see that all these icons and all icon worship - and that includes US World Hegemony - will be destroyed.

Very, very soon.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 20:01 | 1889693's picture

So Steve Jobs forced slaves to build his computers which makes him evil but you use your slave built computer for the betterment of mankind through anonymous web posting so that's OK?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 22:53 | 1890081 IQ 101
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Those particular slaves are just itching to get back to the rice paddies,

ah, the good life.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 01:09 | 1890394 ReadySteadyGo
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You know, the farther I go into this thread, the more I see you've gone "all in."

As to the post this is a reply to... I don't see the choice you put forth as completely honest.  Kinda smacks of "you're either with us or against us", you know?

I'd say, actually, that the presentation is a little disingenuous.  What about the people who don't believe in God, don't take what others have, work hard, treat their families with love, believe in sound money as a very honest way for people to trade different skills equitably?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:53 | 1888883 He_Who Carried ...
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In all seriousness: Who is BCM? and DID they have ANY clients? I don't think so. Their website looks rather silly... 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:22 | 1889091 RafterManFMJ
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To the Battle Hymn of the Republic.




Mine eyes have seen the glory of the ending of the Fraud

The Banksters will take a haircut and then they’ll get the rod

Joe will find his mortgage will finally get the mod

Bondzilla is marching on!

I have seen him in the cook-fires of OWS’s squalid camps

Italy’s bonds have broken 7% while Greece’s quickly ramps

All commerce congeals as credit slowly cramps

Bondzilla’s day is marching on!

40 years of fiat’s time has come at last

Now our run is over, the dollar’s finally passed

Gold will be again, as it was in the past

While Bondzilla lumbers on!

We’ve surmounted the peak, now down the other side

Buckle up buckarro we’re in for quite the ride

While working in your garden, keep a carbine by your side

And Bondzilla marches on.

Will we end in ice, or will we end in fire?

Another regional war, or engulf the world entire?

Hunker in you bunkers lads and watch the Fraud expire –

Bondzilla is coming on!

Pop yourself some popcorn and pour yourself a glass

It’s time to reap the whirlwind you might as well be gassed

If in Happy Valley grab a boy the rest grab a lass

While Bondzilla marches on!


Thu, 11/17/2011 - 18:01 | 1889279 robertsgt40
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The Koch brothers were in MF Global.  Got out a few weeks ago.  Don't think they're worried about claw back.  Only applys to peons

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 22:32 | 1890048 Calmyourself
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You and your three buddies have proof of those trades, right..

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 22:55 | 1890084 Buck Johnson
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This is big news, and he told it straight.  Why do you think that Jefferies came out a few weeks ago 4 times in that week saying that they didn't have much exposure (lie).  It's because MF isn't the only one that is leveraged badly to the European debt.  Everyone ask themselves who do the US trust more when they invest their money?  It's the European banking system which is the Western banking system.  We both scratch each others backs and we each can get organizations or countries to pay by using the political system and financial system.  Saying that you will be locked out of the Western banking system if you don't make good somehow of the money that is owed and most of the time they pay up someway.  The US doesn't trust as much everyone else but in Europe they can trust. 

So they go and make loans and sell CDS's and such in big quantity because they believe no matter what the EU are like us in some ways and won't allow the system to break.  This is what always got me that is illogical, the US financial institutions had to have invested in europe because that was a good bet at the time.  If they didn't there was only a few places left and there markets were more opaque than ours (not anymore).  So when they say that they aren't invested in the EU system they are lying their butts off and many know it.  This man who ran this trading house is ticked because the system failed him and men like him who did business on the CME. 

This should scare everybody, it truly should.  Because the major banks and institutions that facilitate the market system are stealing money from their clients and using it to keep the system going and it's not working.  And the federal govt. is protecting these charlatins by saying it's confusing, to hard etc. etc..  They are trying to obfuscate a simple thing, and that is it doesn't matter Corzine and company stole their clients money period and they are protecting him.  How many more Corzine's are out  there, trust me alot more and we haven't seen anything yet.  You know the system is going into freefall when it starts feeding on itself.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 20:26 | 1892980 Mo Bius
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And for a little different take on the takedown of MF:



Wed, 07/04/2012 - 07:56 | 2586286 gdon9
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:42 | 1888122 GeneMarchbanks
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Do not panic people. CDS is fine.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:38 | 1888740 Republi-Ken
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Wowee Ann Barnhard-on is over the top.

Obama has corrupted -personally- in just 2.5 years

the entire options and futures market

and taken over wall street

with crony capitalism of one leveraged bet by jon corzine.

This is catholic conservative barnhard-on's rant without ANY EVIDENCE.

Oh thats right, Conservatives need NO EVIDENCE ANYTIME.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:38 | 1889182's picture

Obama is running the show right now and MF Global is ripping off their clients right now. Who else would you blame for the lack of action in defending the defrauded investors?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 22:29 | 1890037 Cathartes Aura
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because there's NO SUCH THING as an historical perspective that takes in DEREGULATION, etc. allowing such theft to happen - whoever is "there" on the day you look, is the culprit. 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:54 | 1888824 4realmoney
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I agree. I am not old enough to have experienced a lot of crisis but I did a lot of history. We have seen all that lots of times before and it will happen many more times. I do not like people painting all black. If one has a relatively save investment strategy you will not have troubles right now. Every crisis offers opportunities. I like what Jim Rogers said: "Just about every time you go against panic, you will be right if you can stick it out."


Here is an interesting new homepage I found supplying videos by Jim Rogers etc.etc.




Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:21 | 1888123 SGS
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Blythe doing Gods work today too.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:48 | 1888332 akak
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This is all bullish for Netflix, Lululemon and Chinese solars, right Leo and RowboatTraitor?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:27 | 1888124 greased up deaf guy
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a broker with morals. there IS still hope for humanity. godspeed, ma'am.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:28 | 1888178 homersimpson
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I raise a share of FAZ in his honor. May you return when the crooks in office and in Wall Street get booted or in jail.. either situation is fine.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:38 | 1888262 Stumpy
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Mr. Simpson, you really never miss an occasion to talk about your FAZ, do you?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:04 | 1888443 homersimpson
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FAZ represents the bullishness of Wall-Street corruption and bad economic policy worldwide. So yes.. I do like to celebrate among other ZHers and spread copious amounts of FAZ during bearish times like these. Grab a share and join the party! After all, it's pretty evident the past couple years the "dark" side has been winning at taxpayers' expense, regardless of your country origin. So give Wall street a big FU and root for FAZ.

I'd offer donuts, but that just doesn't sound as satisfying. Mmmm.. donuts...

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:32 | 1888675 Panafrican Funk...
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FAZ was created by Wall Street.  The real players don't give a flying fuck whether the market goes up or down.  They are the market.  You are not "beating the corrupt" by trading with their financial instruments.  You are participating in the corruption.  

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:22 | 1888126 Stack Trace
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Holy Shit.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:23 | 1888128 Shocker
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Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:23 | 1888129 rambler6421
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This chick doesn't like MOslems either.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:23 | 1888130 Big Corked Boots
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Newsflash: Jon S. Corzine is STILL not in jail!

We now return you to the regularly planned economic collapse.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:20 | 1888383 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ another one

Jon Corzine is The Biggest POS on the PlanetTM.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:58 | 1888394 Temporalist
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Jail?!?!  He hasn't even been charged with a crime!!!  He's probably eating kobe beef right now with the Bernonkadonk and Geethner.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:52 | 1889247 Isotope
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I hope it's real Kobe.

Get that cesium-137 level up.

Glow, asshole!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 18:37 | 1889381 Widowmaker
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He will be treasury secretary soon, the same exit strategy that fag used running into the arms of government in New Jersey before.  Where else!

This has organized crime written all over it, and the fingerprints are still fresh. Exposure of magician's tricks are the risk of the day with MFG.

Time buys only one thing - coverup.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:23 | 1888133 dwdollar
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Welcome to reality...

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:24 | 1888139 Teresa_Lo
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So was his fund down on the year?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:24 | 1888141 TeamDepends
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The PPT can't get to their battle stations because of OWS.  Uh-oh.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:24 | 1888146 SheepDog-One
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Highlighted paragraph....WOW! This is getting meaty now people.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:57 | 1888389 DoChenRollingBearing
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Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:25 | 1888151 Breaker
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Holder will put this guy in jail for thought crimes before Jon Corzine goes to jail.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:29 | 1888189 SheepDog-One
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60 congressmen are now calling for Holders removal.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:58 | 1888396 DoChenRollingBearing
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And one Bearing.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:20 | 1888578 RobD
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And one can of spam.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:21 | 1888589 DoChenRollingBearing
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Excellent!  We are everywhere!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:09 | 1888484 PaperBear
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Removal ? Screw that, prosecute him as accomplices to multiple homicides.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:25 | 1888152 caerus
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Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:25 | 1888154 c'mon man
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Santelli just said that traders were walking up to him with tears in their eyes unable to get their money....then they cut away to Liesman real quick for happy news...

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:54 | 1888363 Captain Benny
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They're now openly proclaiming how they are "Team Hopium" and they're intent on reporting only good / positive news.  Sounds like the string pullers behind CNBC are getting more blatent in an attempt to pump.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:58 | 1888388 c'mon man
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Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:25 | 1888155 Cammy Le Flage
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Gulp.  Holy shit. 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:25 | 1888156 Gubbmint Cheese
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Google Anne Barnhardt and read her website.. then check out her Youtube videos.. this will provide some context and background about this person.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:37 | 1888239 Waffen
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oh its that lady? lol.. did she actually manage much money?

Her Koran burning video is a riot.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:37 | 1888250 reload
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She does seem pretty happy to speak her mind. Good for her but I expect whe has some agro coming her way. From what I just read she will not be too easy to intimidate.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:37 | 1888252 caerus
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good call...still i can't help but agree with her points about the market at least

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:25 | 1888157 Cammy Le Flage
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Gulp.  Holy shit. 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:09 | 1888494 Saro
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I gulped and said "Holy shit" twice too, so you're covered.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:26 | 1888159 Matevski
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Check out Gerald Celentes reaction at the Alex Jones show to the whole thing, and the robbery the MotherFuckers did to him. Priceless. Hope they guy gets some of his gold back, but I doubt it..

Sat, 12/03/2011 - 13:50 | 1941661 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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Don't mss Celentes interview on 12-1-11 Kingworldnews:

Don't miss Nigel Farage either...

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:26 | 1888160 Shadowsil
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This post actually deserves a 3rd Holy shit. I think after this one other exclamations must be used...


Holy Shit!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:26 | 1888161 equity_momo
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Slowly the momos are waking up.  They still need an IV of double fuck strong caffeine to get the big picture though.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:27 | 1888162 derek_vineyard
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I better reread it. Where does he suggest you keep these funds, In your brokerage sweep account? That clearing house is vulnerable it not?  In 0% yielding government paper which is hard to even find these days or in other FDIC instruments.

Where is he suggesting to put the proceeds from the liquidation ????

(True ZHers know the only real safety is physical PM----I'm wondering where he think you should keep your cash dollars)

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:28 | 1888173 Cammy Le Flage
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He doesn't.   There is no where to go.  System Fail.  Black Screen.  It does occur.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:55 | 1888376 DollarMenu
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In spite of the ballsy action,

the he is a she.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:38 | 1888263 Sabibaby
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How many dudes do you know who are named Ann?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:01 | 1888435 Let them eat iPads
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Coulter is the only one I can think of.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:13 | 1888523 WonderDawg
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LMAO That was great, thanks for the laugh.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:31 | 1888672 Sudden Debt
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how many dudes do you know who are named Obama?


Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:53 | 1888354 ddtuttle
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Real cash money in a safe bolted to the foundation of your house. And don't tell anybody its there.


Thu, 11/17/2011 - 18:46 | 1889406 Widowmaker
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Still under 5 minutes with a torch and shitty metal detector.

Safes only consolidate your valuables surrounded by hope.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:01 | 1888427 Temporalist
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Time to go to the mattresses!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 19:19 | 1889566's picture

I don't like violence, Temp. I'm a businessman. Blood is a big expense.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:26 | 1888164 mfoste1
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ohh dont worry we still have cheddar bay biscuits, MW3 and a variety of mountain dew flavors. All is well....

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:53 | 1888356 catacl1sm
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I like Chicken-in-a-Biscuit. that shit's addictive.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:54 | 1888368 Big Corked Boots
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They go on the SNAP card.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:53 | 1888359 Big Corked Boots
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I always ask for more biscuits, then put them in the doggie bag for home. Mmmm, cheddaaahhhh...

Money? Oh, here's the card.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:26 | 1888165 justanothernerd
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This demonstrates a level of morality I had no idea existed in the financial world. 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:31 | 1888202 Dr. Acula
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It seems the woman is very religious, judging by the bible quotes on their site.

I think what she says is correct, but not necessarily everyone else will figure it out that fast.


Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:59 | 1888934 ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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Not even slightly religious myself, but I do credit them with "at least believing in something".  You need some kind of a moral framework from which to make judgements and hopefully it evolves as you go through life, learning and growing.


I agree with you though that most people being thouroghly disinterested in value systems will continue to see MF Global and other events as the content of gossip rather than an indictment of our approach to values.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:31 | 1888166 hedgeless_horseman
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What was a surprise was the reaction of the exchanges and regulators. Their reaction has been to take a bad situation and make it orders of magnitude worse. Specifically, they froze customers out of their accounts WHILE THE MARKETS CONTINUED TO TRADE, refusing to even allow them to liquidate.





*Please do not read the funds availability fine print on the FDIC signs at the bank teller windows.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:35 | 1888237 SheepDog-One
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What can I say except 'I told em so'.

Of course no one would believe it, nah, all was well! Hell we had green shoots. Oh well.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:47 | 1888326 Caviar Emptor
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I credit you, Sheep. We were on it

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:39 | 1888271 Conax
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First lock the door, then burn down the house. Maximum damage that way.

Freakin ratz. A green for ya..

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:05 | 1888464 CPL
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Oh it has...many times in fact.  Does it without warrant or justification at times.


And people still think that the FDIC promise of insurance is worth anything.  All the FDIC does is provide another venue of government employment that produces nothing at the end of the day.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:23 | 1888601 adr
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I love that small print. Pretty much says you aren't getting a penny because you are covered up to $250k in non interest bearing accounts. If you've got cash in a big bank, you ain't getting nothin when it all goes down. The banks don't have it and the gov isn't going to give it to you. A couple people in my family told me I was crazy. I told them to go try and take 5 grand out of an account and see what happens. At the next holiday I wasn't called crazy anymore.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:27 | 1888170 ArkansasAngie
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you go girl.

It is time to stop the fleecing of Americans by the cabal.

I suggest we contact all of our representatives and demand an investigation.  On an individual basis, it is the only way for them to avoid being part of the problem.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:29 | 1888186 Cammy Le Flage
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Our representatives are just as bad.  No need to contact anyone but each other.  Check out of the whole thing.  We can start a new system.  "Yes we can"  Tee hee.   That Obama statement gonna haunt him.   And not in a good way.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:28 | 1888176 DB Cooper
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Didn't take long for Bruce to be proven right.  MFG is the start. 

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:28 | 1888179 InfoMacion
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I know now that Obama is worse than Bush Jr.

I thought Bush was really bad.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:20 | 1888579 hunglow
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What woke you up?

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:24 | 1888611 NotApplicable
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Meh, what's the value of moral relativism?

One plays dumb while a false-flag attack occurs, and the other plays dumb while JPM devours the few remaining entities "not in the club," destroying the futures markets along the way. You can be sure of one thing though, both JPM and GS are getting paid back for doing all of the Treasury's dirty-work, with neither having to worry about the future of their PM shorts.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:28 | 1888180 mt paul
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all paper

is ponzi

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:28 | 1888182 TheAkashicRecord
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Criminal Prosecutions for Financial
Institution Fraud Continue to Fall


Federal prosecutions for financial institution fraud have continued their downward slide despite the financial troubles reported in this sector. The latest available data from the Justice Department show that during the first eleven months of FY 2011 the government reported 1,251 new prosecutions were filed. If this activity continues at the same pace, the annual total of prosecutions will be 1,365 for this fiscal year, down 28.6 percent from their numbers of just five years ago and less than half the level prevalent a decade ago.



Number Year-to-date 1,251



Percent Change from previous year





Percent Change from 5 years ago





Percent Change from 10 years ago





Percent Change from 20 years ago

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:32 | 1888213 DB Cooper
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Looks like a good buying opportunity!

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:37 | 1888253 TheAkashicRecord
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Are you assuming the trend is going to reverse?  Don't hold your breath! 

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