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Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:03 | 1898395 digitlman
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Just like a boat: the more water it takes on, the faster it sinks.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:12 | 1898445 WestVillageIdiot
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But how many boats with gaping holes in them continue to pop back up like a cork?  This market is Lazarus on steroids.  Every time you think it is dead some miracle worker, with a megaphone, comes along and breathes life into it. 

Do we really believe this is the real leg down?  Just think how many of us bears were on the sidelines in the crash of 2009 due to the fact that we had been skinned so many times before. 

Be cautious, be careful, be skeptical. 

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:05 | 1898408 SHEEPFUKKER

Happy Thanksgiving!!

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:06 | 1898412 GeneMarchbanks
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Mo-mo's exit stage right, haters to the left.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:08 | 1898423 Stumpy
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Can you help me explain this one? In the last 3 days, SIRI +8,66% and Nasdaq -6,04%.

I loaded up on SIRI Dec 2011 @ 1.75 puts last friday due to this divergence. Due dilligence failed on my part it seems. I do know that SIRI is one of the algo's favorite, so it's heavily manipulated near option expiration date.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:10 | 1898433 bill1102inf
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??Why would you trade options that require algo's to manipulate them at opex ?

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:14 | 1898459 Stumpy
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Maybe because I'm "not-so-smart" money. Still not completely dumb though. I know about the manipulation, but I wasn't expecting an inverse correlation with Nasdaq during this hightened volatility period. At least I bought PUTS, at some point it should/will/have to/may/need to go down.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:10 | 1898436 WestVillageIdiot
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While you are at it please explain SBUX, LULU, CMG, PCLN, EL, and a whole variety of other overpriced darling stocks. 

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:15 | 1898460 Stumpy
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Uhhhh... magic.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:20 | 1898481 kito
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and my DOG finally barks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:08 | 1898429 HelluvaEngineer
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whither dear Robo?

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:09 | 1898430 bill1102inf
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Wow, gold priced in ES isnt looking too good

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:16 | 1898465 fuu
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Your $1700 before $1800 call seems to have come true. Bravo.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:19 | 1898478 WestVillageIdiot
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When walking in the jungle throw your spears cautiously. 

Cash + PMs + liquor + (fill in the blank) = the best chance to make it through this mess in one piece

You are not a sailor that has been out to sea for 24 months.  Don't fall in love with the first thing you see.  Love slowly and love as many as you can. 

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:57 | 1898617 augie
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Love slowly and love as many as you can.

i think the west village is rubbing off on you; might wanna get tested.

I'm gonna love as many puts as i can, just tested below the 61.8 from the 1373.5 high :)

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:14 | 1898452 Catullus
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1190 seems to be the Wooosh line today.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:18 | 1898474 kito
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i heard bernanke and draghi sold off their shares in HPQ!!!!!!!!!!!!! 


Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:20 | 1898483 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Where is Robo, or am I going to have to write it for him....

Uncle Gorilla is letting everyone know who runs this town.  Money is moving into paper, because paper is god!

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:33 | 1898548 adr
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Funny, what happened to the $120 demand based non speculative price of oil?  If $75 oil can exist in the same month as $100 oil then so can $50 oil. The price has nothing to do with what is actually being used. The price only reflects the need of the contract holder to buy or sell to cover other bets. When the other bets go sour, selling crude is the cover.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:49 | 1898605 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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You are correct to a point.  With supply decreasing you are looking at a long term price increase.  It is true that the volatility in the market makes for a good cover to trade oil at a wide spread, but the trendline will continue to move higher.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:35 | 1898558 GeoffreyT
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It never ceases to amaze me that every fuck-knuckle on the planet wants to hit the bid... AFTER a 500-point decline in DJ and a $100 drop in Gold.


Conversely, when Gold was up around $1800 the intraday price action was characterised by lunatic slams into the ask, and fuck-all pullback.


Then, when all the fucktards on the planet have charged onto the wrong side, it's "chocks away" and time to gut some really dumb fish.


Today's Gold action has been illustrative: every time it tries to bounce more than a few bucks, some fuckwit slams into the bid and drives it down 3-4x the bid-ask gap in five or six seconds. What possible purpose could that serve?

(The same thing was happening at the offer when gold was making its last parabolic idiot-surge to $1800)


It's obvously happening in size - otherwise it would not be sufficient to move the market. (It crosses my mind that it may be yet another hedge fund going fratz... )

So it's little wonder that these retards needs bailing out all the time - they do the same top-and-bottom ticking that GS's forex team is now famous for.


Given that the entire investment community knows that the political class and its camp-followers are going to drive the purchasing power of every currency to zero, it beggars belief that, after a $100 pullback, nobody is interested in doing anything to gold except trying to short it... $100 lower than they could have a week ago (when nobody except me was interested in shorting).

Anyhow... as I wrote earlier today: I've covered the second half of my $1793 gold short, and am now long Gold from $1702, targeting $1725 then $1750.

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