Euro Bailout Halflife: 48 Hours

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Mon, 10/31/2011 - 11:49 | 1828688 jcaz
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The bond market never lies.....

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:00 | 1828725 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Especially when Bernanke is buying every bond on the market.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:14 | 1828765 ratso
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As of today, Finland is making provisions to exit the Euro.  Holland and Germany are also looking for the exit door.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:24 | 1828788 malikai
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Citations, please.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:26 | 1828796 ratso
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The source is

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:35 | 1828812 Mike2756
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yep, it's there.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:54 | 1828864 malikai
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..and so the next stage begins.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:08 | 1829881 deebee
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he can't keep up with PIIGS bonds

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:08 | 1828738 Popo
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Agreed,  it has been said many times:  When bonds and equities disagree -- always listen to bonds.

(The reason being is that bond traders are smart fuckers. Equity portfolio managers by contrast seldom understand the macro picture,  are too focused on granular equity movements,  listen too closely to management or just happened to have rich daddies.  ie:  They are not smart fuckers.)

The equity markets are going to get fleeced in short time.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:11 | 1828757 rajat_bhatia
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All you idiots out here. Its just profit booking. Dont you know Le Bernank hates deflation?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:17 | 1828770 LawsofPhysics
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Glad I booked some on Friday.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 11:51 | 1828694 GeneMarchbanks
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Stupid idiot Merkel. Who thought Germans were this dumb...

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 11:58 | 1828718 SheepDog-One
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What surprises me most is this total BS plan hinged to free Chinese money actually WORKED for as long as 48 hours!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 11:58 | 1828719 Curtis LeMay
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No shit, eh?

One would have of course believed so. How couldn't one?

Perhaps, Frau Doktor Kanzlerin does not have the best interests of the German people at heart?

Maybe it is high time to take away Angie's checkbook - before it is too late?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:20 | 1828781 Zero Govt
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the Germans aren't dumb, probably the smartest country in Europe

...German politicians and bankers they're as dumb fuk stupid as every other of their class across the globe

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 11:51 | 1828696 Momauguin Joe
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Guess those Greek pension givebacks didn't go over so well..

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 11:51 | 1828699 Dick Darlington
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Same ol same ol, equities always first to jump to (usually wrong) conclusions and always last to "get it".

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 11:51 | 1828701 HoofHearted
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Newet t-shirt..if WB7 can figure out a nice pic of Merkel...

I wasted a trillion euros, and all I got was this lousy depression.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 11:58 | 1828720 Overflow-admin
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"Trick or threat the IMF" with Merkel and Sarkozy is sooo beautiful! Buybuybuy!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 11:52 | 1828702 Caveman93
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Damn! I can hold an erection longer than that! That's without Viagra or Super Yohimbi Powder!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 11:55 | 1828712 GeneMarchbanks
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The person who's erection you're holding probably wants it back by now.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:01 | 1828731 TheLooza
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No, it's cool, just a few minutes longer.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:11 | 1828760 Sudden Debt
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Rubber bands aren't good for ya you know.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:25 | 1828791 Zero Govt
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imagine how limp the dicks at the EC and ECB ?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 11:53 | 1828706 jcaz
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PS-  I'm tired of that "must buy to avoid career risk" CNBC theory-  if that were the case, stocks could be bid to infinity by the end of the year, and you as a fund manager would have to perform at infinity plus 1 to gain any ground back- yeah, that's likely to happen-  you've underperformed the index all year, but you're gonna turn the jets on NOW, uh-huh.

A more logical way to gain ground would be to stay in cash, and let stocks decay around you, thus improving your relative position, but then that method doesn't sell as much advertising on CNBC.....

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 11:56 | 1828714 SheepDog-One
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Time to tie more carrots to sticks again I guess.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 11:57 | 1828717 Frank N. Beans
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so when is the ES going to come to the same conclusion as treasuries?  didn't they get the memo?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 11:59 | 1828724 SheepDog-One
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Full retard equities are still busy playing with turds in the sand box.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 11:59 | 1828722 hackettlad
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You might speak to soon

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 11:59 | 1828726 lolmao500
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So when do they downgrade France already?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:05 | 1828740 Cangoroo
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Not too far away

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:22 | 1828784 Neidhammel
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In case this happens Germany will reintroduce the Deutschmark immediately.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:28 | 1828799 lolmao500
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Riiiiiiiiight. Not with Merkel and their ilk in power.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:01 | 1828732 unemployable
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how about must buy to avoid homelessness

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:03 | 1828735 ZeroPower
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Absolutely no volume today in equity futures (ES, NQ). Seems suspect, funds probably wanna show some exposure especially the long-onlys since it is month end.

Dollar futures looking great however.


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:05 | 1828739 SheepDog-One
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Now bonds are ignoring 'Yen-tervention'...uh oh.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:07 | 1828746 thunderchief
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Fiat projectile vomit.

All over everything, including the PM's for god's sake.

When are these markets going to price this cave in to the PM's

They should be soaring to the moon.

This is truely Fiat projectile vomit.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:08 | 1828748 Mister Ponzi
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Just a quick thought: Could it be that the outperformance in credit constitutes a paradigm shift? In the last months there were a lot of discussions about safe haven assets and more than once the question was posed whether a highly diversified corporate bond portfolio may be indeed a safer investment (in terms of default risk) than most government bond investments, but at the same time with a historically high spread premium. Here in Europe, we see a lot of investors with minimum yield requirements shifting into corporate bonds at the moment. So, the divergence of credit performance may be explained by these asset allocation effects.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:09 | 1828749 s2man
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Gold has not retreated to pre-summit levels, yet.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:11 | 1828758 common_sense
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huh huh...careful...bear trap on the horizon...


everything is UP UP UP...easy now:  new G20 meeting to avoid implosion in Eurozone, USA, CHina , Japan, Europe...everyone are afraid about financial crisis, so, for now the code is: UP UP UP...with NO SOLUTION AT ALL. BUT not solution isnt for ever...

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:13 | 1828763 marcusfenix
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that was fast...somebody at the global financial information manipulation and propaganda ministry of truth is getting a pink slip...maybe even several somebody's.

although it probably wasn't their fault what they threw didn't stick to the wall for long...the politicians didn't do a particularly good job selling it.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:14 | 1828764 Royal Fleming
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Its nice to see negative speculation...but I caught the whole move last nite, with an entry buy above price...which I do everyday at asia open...SSI was at 17 to 1 ..long to short...what has to happen, is more small interventions to show the world that BOJ means biz. Just like the SNB did with a floor on eur/chf at 1.20 ...Personally I have caught the majority of the last 4 interventions in yen now...

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:19 | 1828774 catch edge ghost
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DUDE. What part of Buzzkill do you people not understand?!! DAMN. 

I'll have no more of it I tell you. I'll have 1400 S&P.  Okay. 1375, but that's it, by year's end. 

Think of the children.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:26 | 1828793 Tsar Pointless
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I know, right?

You failed to include the children disguised as adults - the majority of the US population who make everyday Halloween in my book - in your thoughts.

Only terrorists want the stock markets to go down. Evil doers!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 14:29 | 1829224 TruthInSunshine
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Everything is fine in equity markets.

Japan's Nikkei is down 94% in real terms since its 1989 highs, and the U.S. major indexes are back where they were in 1999 in nominal terms and back to where they were in 1984 in inflation adjusted (i.e. real) terms, and the Chinese equity markets have begun a rapid descent.

It's all good. Be the buy and hold bagholder, because everyone who does accordingly willl end up like Warren 'Thanks for bailing my criminal ass out, taxpayers' Buffett.

All who follow in Buffett's footsteps, buying Coca-Cola, Disney, sheetriock manufacturers and some mundane ice cream manufacturer (the name of which escapes me), will retire as rock stars, pimps and billionaires. It's so easy (and non-rigged so as to never have a chance of crucifying most who dare to invest-gamble against the black box algos, HFT scalping/frontruniing/arbitraging machines and clients of expert networks) that a cave man can do it.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:19 | 1828775 Caviar Emptor
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Nobody escapes the curse of Ponzi risen from the dead! He has plotted his revenge on global financialists for nearly a hundred years since the collapse of his scheme in 1920. And he wants to suck their blood! All he has to do is bite financiers, bankers and central bankers and he recruits them into his underground network of conspirators who then rig their evil spider web to snag the unsuspecting, mesmerized public. He teaches them his chant "!" and they blindly follow, turning over their life savings with a smile. He has grown so powerful he can convince even gurus, even regulators, central bankers and even national leaders! And then he hooks them for life as the charge for keeping them in the game is....Blood!!!


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:21 | 1828782 boiltherich
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Euro Bailout Halflife: 48 Hours

And it goes so well with Japanese yen selling which seems to have a half life of 18 hours.  From 75.5 to 79.9 overnight and already this morning back to 77.79.  This looks a lot like TSHTF again.

Here is what was reported at Barrons, the analysis of MFG by Sandler O'Neill & Partners September 22.  It ends with:

"...MF Global's transaction volumes have a higher correlation with CME Group volumes than volumes from other exchanges. Our volume estimate for MF Global assumes a 4% increase in exchange-traded volumes to 598 million contracts.

We are reducing our fiscal 2012 and 2013 EPS estimates to 30 cents and 60 cents from 46 cents and 76 cents, respectively. We are trimming our price target to $8 from $9 to reflect the decline in peer valuations since we last updated our model.

Our revised price target is based on 1.0 times tangible book value of $8.12. There is no change to our Buy rating.

-- Richard Repetto
-- Mike Adams

Shouldn't there be consequences for such "analysts" when they issue rosy projections and buy ratings on zombie corporations?  Part of the reason we are in the mess we are is paid for analysis that at best sugar coats the truth and at worst is utter fiction.  Oh I forgot, all analysis comes with a link to a disclaimer.


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:29 | 1828802 DoChenRollingBearing
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Of course there should be consequences!  Corzine was rumored to be heading for work with the Obama administration, MF Global could not complete a bond deal with buyers unless Corzine STAYED with MF.

CORZINE should suffer some consequences!  Where are the OWS people and HATERS OF THE RICH screaming for Corzine's head now that he walks away with a $12,000,000 bonus?  Where are you?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:25 | 1828789 JR
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Bloomberg yesterday:

MF Global’s futures unit earns interest income from the collateral it holds to back its customers’ trades. That revenue has been cut as the Federal Reserve target interest rate on overnight loans has been between zero and 0.25 percent since late 2008. The firm reported interest income of $113.2 million in the quarter ended in September. When rates were at 5.25 percent in 2007, the company earned $1.77 billion in the quarter ended in March. MF Global also makes money by charging fees for brokering trades at futures and options exchanges.

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