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i say the franc (as a safe haven at least) is finished
maybe that's what "they" want everyone to think....
maybe...but given the way the snb caved to the irs and their recent desperate attempt to depress the value of the franc by taking on unlimited amounts of worthless paper that they will eventually have to disgorge at massive losses i think the simpler explanation is that they (the snb) are idiots
Never expect a sound currency from a rampant socialism union. Mathematical impossibility.
Are you talking about Europe or the States?
When politicians are allowed to pint money at will the currency is doomed b/c you can be sure as heck it's being spent on unproductive activity that ruins the real growth opportunities and economy at the end.
Nah, Nah, Nah.....Don't you get it? Its all a fiendish plot.....!
I agree. I mean, think about it. The swiss peg the franc to the Euro, that means that gold will only go up (and faster) as the euro collapses, and swiss has a lot of gold. When the time is right they can depeg whenever they want to. Plus as the euro continues to fail it will make Swiss products (not just financial instruments) more attractive. Switzerland is used as a final assembly location for much of europe because of low taxes.
< and swiss has a lot of gold>
For a small country they do, as for the toatal they own, NOT so much.
Since they went off the Gold Std
"...and swiss has alot of gold.." STOLEN by Nazis. :-)
Another simplistic article that does nothing more then say "Buy Gold". No insight hear into the intricacies of the EU, the ECB, the SNB and the political realites of all the EU countries. Just blah, blah buy gold
Funny how the ECB is way more hawkish then the Fed yet they say the Euro will hyperinflate first.
Pretty God Damn Article in my book ! We'll see how you blah blah when shtf...
"kaput" ...as in "not working as intended." "finished" connotes a failure of the intended purpose...yet you claim this is exactly what policy makers want. Therefore the "euro is kaput." this is very important to know this too. You see "you laugh but kaput is not funny." ....haha...i see you are laughing again.
They will continue to issue debt . . .
. . . until nobody will accept their debt anymore.
And then they will try to take what they want by force.
Until they are stopped by force.
agreed. The Euro is a debt prison pure and simple.
What is wrong with the Euro at the moment is what is right with it.
Only an ill-informed individual with no understanding of national identities in Europe would spout such nonsense. Other than not being the Fed, the ECB has nothing going for it.
By buying bonds from governments and providing cheap credit to banks around Europe in a bid to stem the debt and bank crisis, the Eurosystem which underpins the ECB has become hugely leveraged. With only €81.187 billion in subscribed capital and reserves, compared to €1.895 trillion in assets, the ECB is now leveraged 23.4 times.10 In contrast, strong central banks such as the Swedish Riksbank, the Norwegian Central Bank and the Swiss National Bank, are leveraged only 4.7, 5.9 and 6.3 times respectively. Meanwhile, the average hedge fund is leveraged around four or five times.
Table 1: Spot the difference between the ECB and other central banks
(€m) Capital Reserves Assets Leverage C+R as %ratio of AssetsECB 10,761 70,426 1,895,870 23.4: 1 4.25Swiss NB 36,174 - 226,641 6.25:1 15.96Sweden 110 7,235 34,757 4.73:1 21.1Norges Bank 8,441 - 49,345 5.85:1 17.1
Source: ECB weekly financial statement 24 May 2011, SNB Balance sheet, Swedish Riksbank weekly financial statement andNorges Bank Balance sheet April 2011
Not only did I 'up arrow' you, I now will give you a:
The assets and ratios of CB's are only relevant for the DEFENCE of a currency.
Not the current situation, is it?
In a defensive I-have-to-keep-value situation RESERVES are what you need, FX and/or Au.
meaning they are (gulp) not that far from needing recapitalization....
When democracy is replaced by tyrany those with rifles will still get to vote.
yippee, I will get to vote 25 times!!
Yeah so? You can only fire one at a time chum......
"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." - Joseph Stalin
Our overlords will continue to issue debt that no one wants, but which everyone will be required to purchase if they wish to see their banking licences unrevoked.
I'm very concerened that you are right about that.. sad times ahead.
Yeah, that's about right....couldn't have said it better myself.
Begs an interesting question: What is a successful transition out of the EU from Greece's point of view?
Best line in the whole article 'This 'problem reaction solution' worked for the elite in the prior era but it will no longer work, we know the playbook now, it has been read and studied, its not going to work this time'.
Much appreciated Mike. Always enjoy your views.
The only way the EUR is saved (if even temporarily, as in kick the can for a few months/years, and losing 50% or more of its value over a very short peiod as the ECB cranks out the EUR trash fiat), is if German Politicians fall on their literal swords as they pledge current and two or three future generations of Germans' labor, savings, sweat equity and output in order to bail out the welfare PIIGS+France nation states that surround them.
And even if German Politicians fall on their literal swords doing this, it can all be undone when their successors are brought into office, and the former office holders have to literally seek exile for reasons of their personal security.
I've never before seen anything blown so far out of proportion by so many completely uninformed "experts".
And your defense of the EUR and EU is so thick with meaty, substantive statistics.
Do tell how Germany is going to stretch itself thinly enough to bail out PIIGS+France.
They commissars don't want anyone to leave, neither the rich nor the poor.
EU = Hotel California?
"According to the opinion of the EU-comission, the highly indebted Greece cannot be excluded from the Euro zone. "Neither voluntary departure nor exclusion are possible", the spokesperson for EU-commissar Olli Rehn said in Brussels on Thursday. The Lisbon treaty specifies that membership in the currency union is "irrevocable". The spokesperson specified that his was both a judicial as well as a political reply, and added "There will not be a discussion about this."
(Source: Topnews Dow Jones)
Them's fight'in words!
"Them's fight'in words", y'all!
Perhaps these sources are outdated, but there explicitly IS an exit clause in the Lisbon treaty. If a country (esp. Germany) decides to withdraw, what is the EU going to do to stop it? Send in troops to prevent a humanitarian disaster?
For more detailed analysis:
Of course, you are absolutely right in that they want NOONE to leave.
I think J.C. "lie when it's really important" Juncker had a hand in crafting this statement...
How have we got into such a state that the fate of the world 'economy' rests on what a bald Jew fella has to say?
Oh yes, that's right, it's apathy that got us in such as state... and apathy is rife in the good old USA, more prevalent than ever.
At least the men and women of the middle east and parts of Europe got out of their chairs and put up a fight against the tyranny.
That's true but we already have a zog and they are ironically just starting one. If the UN and USA help liberate countries you can bet a Rothschild controlled central bank will appear. Then they can start thier lovely new lives repleat with ipads, wide-screen tv's and 7 credit cards each. That's not what I call liberation.
Leave the Jew stuff out of it... The Jews are our elder brothers and don't forget that.
So is Ron Paul:
"So is cheerleader Perry" ..there, fixed it for you.
Ron Paul is done being the nice guy perhaps. Wtf was up with Perry grabbing him onstage?
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