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Europe Finally Comes Out: Obama's Reelection "Uber Alles" Determines Europe's Future

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For those to whom this comes as a surprise, following the periodic jaunts of Tim Geithner to Europe explaining just what is truly important in life, not to mention Obama's daily phone calls to Mario Monti, we feel truly sorry:

  • EU-IMF REVIEW OF GREEK DEBT SITUATION SET TO BE DELAYED UNTIL AFTER U.S. ELECTION - EUROPEAN OFFICIALS

And the punchlines:

  • "Obama doesn't want anything on a macroeconomic scale that is going to rock the global economy before Nov. 6," a senior EU official told
  • "As far as European leaders are concerned, they don't want Romney, so they're probably willing to do anything to help Obama's chances," said the source, an EU official involved in finding solutions to the debt crisis.

One kinda wonders: just what has Obama promised a broke Europe in return? Don't answer: it's rhetorical. It's also "fair."

At least it is finally clear that the entire world's agenda is to get Obama reelected, broke Athens municipalities no longer collecting garbage, and running out of cash to pay the local Five-Oh notwithstanding.

Get ready for reality to come crashing down once the second coming is completed on November 6, and surreality is no longer needed.

Full article confirming that the entire developed world is now not only broke, but socialist as well:

An EU-IMF report into whether Greece's debt is manageable looks set to be delayed until after Nov. 6 because policymakers want to avoid any shock to the global economy before the U.S. election, EU officials and diplomats say.

 

The report by the 'troika' of Greece's foreign lenders -- the European Commission, European Central Bank and International Monetary Fund -- was expected during October, possibly before a meeting of eurozone finance ministers on Oct. 8.

 

The study provides the basis for decisions on whether to disburse the next tranche of aid to Athens, which may otherwise run out of money to pay wages and pensions, default on its debt and perhaps be forced to leave the euro area.

 

Differences inside the troika about the precise extent of Greece's debt problems, combined with political pressure to hold off for another few weeks, look likely to mean a delay until mid-November. In the meantime, Greece will be kept afloat by issuing short-term treasury bills and its banks will get access to emergency funds from the Greek central bank.

 

"The Obama administration doesn't want anything on a macroeconomic scale that is going to rock the global economy before Nov. 6," a senior EU official told Reuters, adding that previous troika reports had also slipped.

 

Several sources in Germany said top officials in Washington had made clear in numerous conversations with their German and European counterparts that they would prefer no surprises before the tightly contested election.

 

"It's likely the troika report will be pushed back beyond the U.S. election date," said a Berlin official who spoke on condition of anonymity. Asked if that was a special request from Washington, he replied: "They don't want any surprises."

 

The European Commission's spokesman on finance said on Friday the troika would take a week-long break from its work in Athens, the second time it has interrupted its mission since it began in late July, adding to expectations of a delay.

 

"The inspectors are expected to return to Athens in about a week," spokesman Simon O'Connor told reporters.

 

"As for a conclusion of the mission, I don't have any dates to share with you," he said, adding that it should be some time during October. "We can't say exactly when."

 

If Greece is off-target by a wide margin, as many economists predict, financial markets will react negatively, concerned that another round of debt restructuring will be required to get government finances back on a stable footing.

 

A negative troika report could also revive pressure to force Greece out of the single currency area with potentially devastating knock-on consequences for other European countries and the global economy.

 

European leaders have the same interests as the U.S. president in not destabilising markets -- their own economies have also been badly affected by the fallout from Greece, where the sovereign debt crisis began in January 2010.

 

But one source said EU leaders' motives went beyond macroeconomic stability. They also had political reasons to avoid rocking the boat before the U.S. election.

 

"As far as European leaders are concerned, they don't want Romney, so they're probably willing to do anything to help Obama's chances," said the source, an EU official involved in finding solutions to the debt crisis.

 

The problem for Obama is that if Europe's leaders are seen, implicitly or otherwise, to be working to bolster his reelection chances, it could provide ammunition for the Romney campaign.

 

European leaders have repeatedly been accused of acting too slowly and in a confused way to resolve the crisis, with a knock-on negative impact on the United States. If they are now seen to be allying with Obama, it could dent his popularity.

So dear Greeks, Spaniards, Portuguese, and all other soon to be broke nations, who are stuck not knowing if you will ever get a pension payment, if the money in your bank is safe, or if there is nobody to collect your garbage, thank the US president.

Also: buy every December VIX call option you can find cause the feces sure are gonna hit the fan once the BS is finally over and truth can no longer be delayed.

 


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Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:47 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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It's up to the 47%........oh crap.

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:58 | Link to Comment BaBaBouy
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The SHIT Hits The Proverbial FAN after Obamba Gets Re-Crowned ...

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:00 | Link to Comment exi1ed0ne
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I don't know what the world will look like on Nov 7th, but I'm long popcorn.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:08 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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 [Fast] FORWARD

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There's an AD CLICK for Obama Re-election STATE T-Shirts ($30) bucks each... I wonder if the T-Shirts are available for all "57" states...

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:12 | Link to Comment SmallerGovNow2
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Clever Francis... LOL

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:44 | Link to Comment Troll Magnet
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It's not up to the 47%. It's up to Diebold.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:54 | Link to Comment old naughty
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Wouldn't you know it, that was the plan all along.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:00 | Link to Comment Sokhmate
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Live free or Die Bold

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 19:22 | Link to Comment Popo
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The obvious problem with this "crash after the election please" request is that everyone is going to front run it.... Which means it will happen before the election whether he likes it or not.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:10 | Link to Comment Ying-Yang
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President Obama Asks Medvedev for ‘Space’ on Missile Defense — ‘After My Election I Have More Flexibility’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlXK8o70Se0

After the election will be a bitch.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:05 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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I have a great secret that I wish to reveal.

My mere revealing of this secret jeopardizes my safety.

 

Obama, through his court jester, Timmay, has sent a sealed package in the shape of a small box to European Leaders.  The attached note warns them to not open it until November 7, 2012, assuming official U.S. Presidential election results have been diebold-ed....I mean tabulated...and that Obama has been crowned Divine Emperor of the Western Constellation.

Within this box there is a Staples 'Easy Button,' first passed from Greenspan to the Bernank, inscribed with the phrase (and instructions):

"To buy more time, identify any asset class(es) you wish, then hit CTRL + P until infinity."

There is also a handwritten note from Obama and co-signed by both The Bernank & iKrugman, asking, dryly:

"Now there, euro-bitchez, wasn't that easy?"

 

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:04 | Link to Comment 1100-TACTICAL-12
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False Flag Event (FFE) anyday now :)

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:20 | Link to Comment smlbizman
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i , like many have been expecting that all hell breaks loose after the election.....and it will get so bad that obama , like past saviors will offer the only way out and that we will have to tear up the final piece of the constitution to do it...like they did with giuliani and 911...bloomberg throwing in an extra term , you know cause new york cant exist without him...rules and laws are an illusion...we will all have the new hitle....i mean obama flag flying soon...

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 15:32 | Link to Comment pavman
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False Flag Event (FFE) anyday now :)

I'd wager it'll happen in Chicago.  Only makes sense.  Run forest run.

 

This read is insightfully fascinating: http://washingtonexaminer.com/introduction-the-obama-you-dont-know/article/2508080

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:14 | Link to Comment FMR Bankster
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Let's shorten the article, Europe says: give me some of that Obama cash from the Obama stash

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:33 | Link to Comment SmallerGovNow2
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Yes because I bet there is a deal in the works for USA to bail out Europe AFTER the election.  The "O" knows if he did it before that he will lose...

Sun, 09/23/2012 - 10:14 | Link to Comment FoxMulder
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Europe won't have to worry about paying for gas! They won't have to worry about paying their mortgages!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:01 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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Europe's got a feevah, and the only puhscription, is more Paul Krugman.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:03 | Link to Comment Dead Canary
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Popcorn and marshmallows. Burning civilization makes them nice and toasty.

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:15 | Link to Comment Zap Powerz
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An Obama reelection brings certainty: immediate collapse.

A Romney election brings uncertainty: collapse later rather than sooner.

As a businessman, I prefer certainty and will be voting for Obama as many times as they will let me.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:35 | Link to Comment kridkrid
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You don't understand the mechanics of the collapse.  You are correct in the inevitability of collapse, but the mechanism for delaying the collapse is more debt, more printing, more spending.  I basically said the same thing that you are saying here about a Ron Paul presidency.  Paul would have brought about the collapse more quickly... and would have earned my vote because of it.

There is no difference between Romney and Obama... and that is by design.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:33 | Link to Comment sampo
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Maybe he promised Germany their gold back..

Gotcha!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:04 | Link to Comment BaBaBouy
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I Guess Our GOLDie Really Takes Off After The Bumba Re-Coronation...

Sun, 09/23/2012 - 01:12 | Link to Comment James-Morrison
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That's why we're called Sheeple, Obahhhma.

Sun, 09/23/2012 - 01:13 | Link to Comment James-Morrison
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That's why we're called Sheeple, Obahhhma.

Sun, 09/23/2012 - 01:13 | Link to Comment James-Morrison
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That's why we're called Sheeple, Obahhhma.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:28 | Link to Comment The trend is yo...
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Once Obama is reappointed he'll do everything in his power to make sure merkal stays in power and so on and so forth.  This is the game of neverending musical chairs.  The music never stops, they have high jacked the DJ

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:43 | Link to Comment NoTTD
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Since we don't appoint Presidents, I assume you meant "reannointed", which is what is actually underway.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:02 | Link to Comment Gene8696
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I vote for a One World Government.. I like the uniforms.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:58 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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Is there an anti-Obama country that will PURPOSELY create a negative reality before the election to make Obummer look bad?    Ask yourself that.  Which country is that?  

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:14 | Link to Comment shushup
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Israel


Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:24 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Stuck the landing.

 

Most people want to kill them.....but I like them. It's an oasis in a land of crazy.

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:34 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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The Apartheid State of Israel, despite the rhetoric, probably isn't sweating an Obama victory as much as people think...

All it does is DELAY things for them... They've been saying that Iran acquiring a nuke is "imminent" for more than 20 years now... It all gets ratcheted up around election time because, as alwas, they want to have their say in American politics...

If Obama wins... PLAN B is to somehow get Biden the hell out of there (which shouldn't be hard), and move Hitlery into the VEEP spot... Hitlery would the the same as Romney in their eyes... A little messier, but same result in the long run...

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A timeline of warnings since 1979.

Breathless predictions that the Islamic Republic will soon be at the brink of nuclear capability, or – worse – acquire an actual nuclear bomb, are not new.

For more than quarter of a century Western officials have claimed repeatedly that Iran is close to joining the nuclear club. Such a result is always declared "unacceptable" and a possible reason for military action, with "all options on the table" to prevent upsetting the Mideast strategic balance dominated by the US and Israel.

And yet, those predictions have time and again come and gone. This chronicle of past predictions lends historical perspective to today’s rhetoric about Iran.

1984: Soon after West German engineers visit the unfinished Bushehr nuclear reactor, Jane's Defence Weekly quotes West German intelligence sources saying that Iran's production of a bomb "is entering its final stages." US Senator Alan Cranston claims Iran is seven years away from making a weapon.

Though Israel had secretly done business with the Islamic Republic after the 1979 revolution, seeking to cultivate a Persian wedge against its local Arab enemies, the early 1990s saw a concerted effort by Tel Aviv to portray Iran as a new and existential threat.

1992: Israeli parliamentarian Benjamin Netanyahu tells his colleagues that Iran is 3 to 5 years from being able to produce a nuclear weapon – and that the threat had to be "uprooted by an international front headed by the US."

1992: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres tells French TV that Iran was set to have nuclear warheads by 1999. "Iran is the greatest threat and greatest problem in the Middle East," Peres warned, "because it seeks the nuclear option while holding a highly dangerous stance of extreme religious militancy."

1992: Joseph Alpher, a former official of Israel's Mossad spy agency, says "Iran has to be identified as Enemy No. 1." Iran's nascent nuclear program, he told The New York Times, "really gives Israel the jitters."

 

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:35 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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despite the rhetoric

 

On top of it actually.

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:45 | Link to Comment Troll Magnet
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Israel will screw America no matter what. That's who they are. That's what they do. And we give them money and protection to fuck us up the ass. Shalom, Bitchez!!!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:01 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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Nice, Francis, I knew Iran Nuke has been a half-century red herring but you did the homework.  +40.  Iran invasion my ass.  We'll see Civil War before that happens.

Ranking of populations of Jews outside of Israel:

1) USA

2) Iran

...or thereabouts.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:18 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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That said... Now that Mr. (47%) Romney has effectively kissed his own ass goodbye... In the strategic realm of things, BIDEN needs to start watching his 6 o'clock...

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http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.html

Though, in my mind... a douch like Biden would probably just be glad to take a $200 million bribe, & ride off into the sunset under some cover story that he developed alzheimers or something... Nobody would give a rats ass about Biden anyway... Probably a cover story that would only last a day or two...

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:38 | Link to Comment Bringin It
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Wow!!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:43 | Link to Comment Translational Lift
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biden and his ilk sell themselves for a fraction (try 0.1%) of what you have stated.........

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 13:41 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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@Translational

You're prolly right... I'm just trying to extrapolate BERNANKE induced hyperinflation... I'm limited to the tools of any at large 'eCONomist' (a ruler & a purple crayon)... & I haven't even taken the correspondence course on 'parabolic curves' yet... So I'm clearly fishing here...

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:47 | Link to Comment Bringin It
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It's pretty clear to me now why RP&RP did what they did.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:50 | Link to Comment Bringin It
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Why TD got out of Dodge.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:22 | Link to Comment pazmaker
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I'm curious where you got that crazy statistic.  It's not even close to being true.

outside of Israel, just about every source for statistics list

 

1. USA

2. France

3. Canada

4. United Kingdom

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:46 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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Obama's deal with Europe?  What about Romney's deal with Israel?  Is it war with Iran?  I understand that Romney raised a lot of illegal foreign contributions during his trip there.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 16:46 | Link to Comment Hobie
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The 57th state.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 14:45 | Link to Comment RiskAverseAlertBlog
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The answer is China, and they've already begun creating a negative reality vis a vis Japan. Anyone answering "Israel" just does not understand who's who among fascists in the evil British Foreign Office's back pocket. Obama is one and Bibi is two, which fact leads one to laugh at those calling Obama a "socialist." Indeed, the Tory right is so utterly incompetent it can't even manage a smoke screen without appearing Her Royal Bankruptcy's loyal servants.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:36 | Link to Comment Translational Lift
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Would you expect anything different??  One Socialist block backing another,,,,,,,,,,,,

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:48 | Link to Comment valkir
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What happens if there is no election nov.6?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:52 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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What if they gave an election and nobody voted?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:53 | Link to Comment The Wizard of Oz
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GOLD BITCHEZ!!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:07 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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Is it me or is gold powering up every 8 days or so?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:36 | Link to Comment TwoShortPlanks
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8 is our ruckiest number.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:41 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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Well if that proves out, I'll back slap!

ZH needs a scoreboard for questions like this.  That would draw eyes and get hits.  Which commenters make the best predictions?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:43 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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8 is the symbol for 'infinity' flipped up 90 degrees vertical...

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:18 | Link to Comment the not so migh...
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I am sure if only Obama and Rommny voted , Obama would get 2 votes,  Rommney does not want to win I am telling ya.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:37 | Link to Comment kridkrid
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Here's what I think... I think he likely wants to win, but was selected for us to insure that he wouldn't.  I think that is more or less true of all of the candidates provided to us by the republican wing of our one party system.  I think the same was true in 2004 with the Dems.  How remarkable is it that two such wildly unpopular presidents could not attract a good candidate to run against him? 

Whoever wins in 2012 will be the one to whom the blame will placed.  The crash is inevitable.  So the questions are... how can the power that be best 1) insure blame is not placed correctly, 2) advance whatever their vision of what should come next might be?  I don't know those answers.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:40 | Link to Comment ITrustMyGut
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great post! thank you for restoring a tiny bit of trust in people

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:13 | Link to Comment freedogger
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I thought they played this game last time when McCain picked Paulin.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:47 | Link to Comment kridkrid
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Here are my thoughts on Palin, for what they are worth.  I think Palin has served to destroy any legitimacy the "tea party" might have had.  I believe that there was, at the very beginning, a unique movement somewhere within the tea party.  Our one party system that masquerade as a two party system can't have that, so the Tea Party needed to be consumed by the Republicans.  The did this in a lot of ways... they astroturfed some, they defined and redefined things here and there, and infiltrated where they needed (mainly by running "tea party candidates" who are still just republicans at the end of the day.  Palin helped in all of these areas.  I don't think she knows this.  I really don't.  I think most of the actors are unknowing but willing pawns.  It actually works better that way. I think Palin also made the "tea party movement" just look dumb.  Any chance that it might have had to attract bright people hoping for some sort of alternative to the two parties ended with Palin... by design.

But here we are, just one election cycle later, and the tea party is nothing really... it's just some badge that someone who was previously a republican wants to wear to show how much better of republican they are than some other republican.  circle jerk.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:22 | Link to Comment Ying-Yang
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I agree.. The Tea Party was hijacked and has turned off supporters that were waking up. Disguntled Tea Baggers are more disgruntled with the repubs and are joining the ranks of the Great Pissed Off!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:49 | Link to Comment centerline
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Yeah, a few months ago at least I speculated the Romney would at some point get caught saying something stupid.  I suspect there is more to come - but only once we get closer.  TPTB have to make this look legit and the 50-50 (+/- a few percent) race really says everything here.  Complete theater.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:03 | Link to Comment kridkrid
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Yeah... I agree.  50/50 +/- serves a couple of purposes, I think.  As you say, it provides some legitimacy and it provides some theater.  Both are big goals.  It also keeps the pendulum easy to swing.  I've said this here a bunch of times, but our wars in the middle east had grown fairly unpopular... so if your goal is to continue and to expand, what can you do?  Well, run an anti-war candidate, get him elected, and escalate.  It's quiets the anti-war crowd a good bit.  This is nothing new... it's the Richard Nixon blueprint... we just don't connect the dots.  50/50 is always the goal... they keep tinkering with "platforms" to insure the result.  I laugh when people say that the republican party will become obsolete because of demographics.  No.  If American politics survives long enough, the parties will shift to ensure the basic 50/50 split, by hook or by crook.

Sun, 09/23/2012 - 01:20 | Link to Comment James-Morrison
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I vote for him, because they don't want me to -- Rebel without a Candidate.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:18 | Link to Comment Silvergood
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Refuse to vote for either of these banksters!!! 

Do not be an accomplice to the crime!!

Spend your time buying physical silver and gold!!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:35 | Link to Comment Whiner
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Whadaya spend it on when we are all on "The Road"?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:04 | Link to Comment Ms. Erable
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Spend it? Gotta wipe with something other than leaves and pine-cones (fiat, not the shiny).

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:05 | Link to Comment pods
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For one I would say a good pair of running shoes.

pods

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:20 | Link to Comment kridkrid
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Or... what if they orchastrate a divide that keeps people arguing over non-issues so that the criminals who run the show can continue to run the show without anyone noticing while continuing to allow us to vote for people who they have carefully vetted.  What if?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:38 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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Well, I'm never voting for a party that interferes with a woman and her body!

-or-

Well, I'm never voting for a party that  doesn't support the sanctity of marriage!

 

IT'S THE IMPORTANT STUFF THAT MATTERS

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:53 | Link to Comment Troll Magnet
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THERE'S A WAR ON WOMEN!
THERE'S A WAR ON CHRISTMAS!
THERE'S A WAR ON CHILDREN!
THERE'S A WAR ON TEH GAYS!
THERE'S A WAR ON OUR GENITALS!
WAR! WAR! WAR!!!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:45 | Link to Comment Kobe Beef
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And none of these WARS would be possible if power weren't so centralized in the Imperial government. None of these wedge issues is even the properly considered jurisdiction of the Federal Government under the Constitution. The Imperial government of the USSA, however, just makes shit up as it goes along.

There is no reason for every state to be forced to be like California, nor every state to be forced to be like Kansas.

States' Rights, Hard 10th Amendment, & decentralization.

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:56 | Link to Comment Bringin It
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It's worse than U think. 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:55 | Link to Comment kridkrid
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It is remarkable to watch... it really is.  And sometimes it's hard to not get swept up in it.  My state made news in the anti gay marriage thing during the last cycle.  And while part of me wanted to be active in supporting the right for people to do whatever the fock they want, I know that in doing so, I'm nothing more than a pawn in a wedge issue that is co-opted in order to divide people.  Whatever, we are all pawns anyway.  I guess I feel some amount of satisfaction in at least understanding the game.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:09 | Link to Comment pods
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Haha krid almost sounds like you are a fellow Tar Heel?

I loved asking people (on either side of that debate) what business of the state is it if two people want to get married (in the state's eyes it is a 3 way contract, nothing more).

Loved the venom from the fundies on that one.  

pods

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:22 | Link to Comment kridkrid
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I am.  Not orignally, but have been here since 99.  triangle area.  You?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:28 | Link to Comment pods
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Haha, in RTP as I type.  Ex Yank since '01.  So by the rules (you have 2 years on me) you can tell me to go home yankee.

pods

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:55 | Link to Comment Bob
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Yes, what if something else were going on, something that nobody--even congress critters--can find out about.  Nobody except the corporate lobbyists writing the rules for what will essentially be the neofeudal NWO, that is:

 

http://www.nationofchange.org/thief-lurks-shadows-1346936485

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:35 | Link to Comment Nikao7
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Hey Bob I wanted to thank you for posting the video of Dr. Judy Wood.  Very compelling stuff.  An absolute must see for all.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqbcsU0_RjU&feature=youtu.be

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:29 | Link to Comment The trend is yo...
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That would be just perfect in ther eyes. Nothing changes.  Winners all around

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:56 | Link to Comment Miffed Microbio...
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I'm sure Diebold would spit out a victor never the less.

Miffed:-(

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:07 | Link to Comment Red Heeler
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"What happens if there is no election nov.6?"

Same thing that happens if there is an election.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:15 | Link to Comment kridkrid
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Please... elections provide the air of legitimacy to the charade.  We will elect our hitler just like germany did.  It will be after the shit hits the fan.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:58 | Link to Comment MiltonFriedmans...
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You're on you game today. Good points, very good.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:48 | Link to Comment midtowng
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If that's the case then all the statement of central bank independence are garbage.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:30 | Link to Comment The trend is yo...
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midtowng

You must be new here

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:49 | Link to Comment Dareconomics
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I wrote that Spain will not request a bailout until after regional elections, but I'll push that date past November 6 now:

http://dareconomics.wordpress.com/2012/09/20/mainstream-media-still-cant...

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:50 | Link to Comment Global Hunter
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So what happens to these poor folks in Athens and their garbage if their man doesn't win the US election in November?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:00 | Link to Comment booboo
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Benzoid Bernanko will buy it, well the garbage that is, he already owns the citizens.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:02 | Link to Comment exi1ed0ne
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Same thing that happens if the Other Guytm gets the post.  Neo-serfdom.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:51 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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cant they speed this election thing up to the last Tuesday in September.....Europe is hurting NOW

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:51 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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They must be pretty damn stupid if they think that there will be a different idiot occupying the oval office for the next four years other than the current fool. Even if there was a change of idiots everything would remain the same.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:00 | Link to Comment BurningFuld
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Let's just hope we don't get an even bigger idiot. What tells me Mitt is a bigger idiot? The fact that he is running for the position in the first place.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:04 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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Every president is now the worst in history. The next one will be worse -- even if he's the same one.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:17 | Link to Comment Zap Powerz
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'Merica!  Fuck yeah!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:01 | Link to Comment Miffed Microbio...
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Kind of like going from Tiberius to Caligula to Nero

Miffed:(

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:29 | Link to Comment unrulian
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James Tiberius Kirk?

Nero the Romulan?

ISS Caligula, nemisis class star ship?

 

 

...oh you're not talking about star trek

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:52 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Just more evidence of who really runs the western world.  The banking and financial families of old Europe.  Like "Voldemort" in Harry Potter, dare we speak their names, Rothschild, Windsor, Rockefeller, Morgan...

Where is all the interest on all the debt currently going?  Debt that is created by a relative few people with a single keystroke, yet requires everyone else to toil tirelessly away to pay back.  We have been here before people.

long guillotines motherfuckers.  Want to be in a "growth industry", become an undertaker.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:19 | Link to Comment Ratscam
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any comments on the richest country with 552 inhabitants called the Vatican?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:36 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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How big is their army?  How many resources do they have on the land mass they control? Possession is the law moving forward.  Do those 552 have the means to support themselves on the land mass they control and can they defend it?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:21 | Link to Comment Raymond Reason
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The Vatian is a City State and probably has access to the means to defend itself, as does the City State of London (the square mile) and District of Columbia. 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:42 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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right, because one tactical nuke won't make the whole region a mess. -FAIL.

Sat, 09/22/2012 - 05:27 | Link to Comment Ratscam
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if you own 20% of all italian cities real estate and a vast amount of real estate around the world, who cares if you have an army or getting nuked.
Rothschild does not have an army. The power of money is invisible.
read the book Vatican Inc. by gianluigi nuzzi, you might learn something.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:19 | Link to Comment Scalaris
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Been asking the same thing but for some reason not even google gives accurate answers about the money flows' direction.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:53 | Link to Comment crusty curmudgeon
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"Want to be in a "growth industry", become an undertaker."

It is sad beyond belief to say this but I fear this is great advice.

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.” —Thomas Jefferson

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:53 | Link to Comment gggunchi
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FUCK OBAMA! 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:14 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Pop for the tee shirt.....it's only 30 bucks.

 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:43 | Link to Comment Kaiser Sousa
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"FUCK OBAMA..."

Articulate, precise, and succint...

you sir may proceed to the next level....

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:55 | Link to Comment BrigstockBoy
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Hopefully, we can take out the trash...

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:00 | Link to Comment Sofa King Confused
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You can take out the trash but, It wont be with a vote.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:02 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Only the WHITE TRASH gets taken out...

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:53 | Link to Comment Mongo
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Ever had that moment where you need to take a shitter but you are 10 miles in each direction to a toilet ... WELCOME TO EUROPE

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:03 | Link to Comment exi1ed0ne
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The coffee in my nose, IT BURNS!

 

+1

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:45 | Link to Comment RSloane
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Thank God I was drinking orange juice and not coffee. Ouch!

Plus one.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:54 | Link to Comment A Man without Q...
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The whole fucking reason we are in this fucking mess is we have have fucking decades of fucking politicians putting their fucking election campaign above managing the fucking economy.  Trouble is, it simply proves how fucking stupid the voters are.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:00 | Link to Comment BrigstockBoy
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It's also a result of our form of government. We have an 'omnipotent' elected assembly that forms a majority to serve the interests of a few. Hayek spoke about this in the 1970s and indicated that disillusionment was growing. He called it pernicious...

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:02 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Have faith my firends, that which is not sustainable, won't be sustained.  Build real wealth in your family, your employees and those you chose to associate with.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:07 | Link to Comment Schmuck Raker
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You want these fucking politicians fucking managing the fucking economy?

Well, fuck. That's what you fucking got.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:38 | Link to Comment Irene
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The problem, as I see it, is, "I DON'T WANT THE FUCKIN' POLITICIANS MANAGING THE FUCKIN' ECONOMY IN THE FIRST PLACE."

Their job is to enforce the rules.  Period.  End of sentence.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:21 | Link to Comment francis_the_won...
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"Their job is to enforce the rules. Period. End of sentence."

I wish that were true, but, sadly, Congress takes their "lawmaker" role far too seriously.  I had once thought that the President, as executive, was supposed to be the enforcer of laws.....but that was obviously a flawed assumption on my part.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:36 | Link to Comment unrulian
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+1 for unscrupulous use of my favorite intensifier.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:54 | Link to Comment LongSoupLine
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We're fucked...

 

Oh, wait...we were anyway.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:57 | Link to Comment Dr. No
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They are just laying the groundwork for his next Noble prize: Economics.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:04 | Link to Comment Awakened Sheeple
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We did get Gaddafi's gold, did we not?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:01 | Link to Comment Mercury
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What was that about Europeans not willing to surrender national sovereignty?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 09:59 | Link to Comment john_connor
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I would go with December puts since November expiry seems too obvious.  My guess is the Market Makers will vaporize all open interest on both sides for November expiry.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:02 | Link to Comment DormRoom
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It is said that Obama had asked Isreal to not bomb Iran until after election, when he would support the strike. bye Iran.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:56 | Link to Comment centerline
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That works well to explain the recent "tension" btw Obama and Israel that is being sold to the public.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:00 | Link to Comment UTICA CLUB XX PURE
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I hate the new America.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:01 | Link to Comment phat ho
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beam me up scotty

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:01 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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Confirms European leaders see Obummer as "one of them."  

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:01 | Link to Comment larz
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Oh boy! 4 more years of Michelle and Barack  - or maybe Romney death is not an option unless by drone i suppose - at any rate this is going to be greeeeaaat

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:06 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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I smell a 3rd term ;)

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:58 | Link to Comment crusty curmudgeon
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But that would violate the Const... Oh, wait.

“If you want to kill any idea in the world today, get a committee working on it.”  Charles F. Kettering

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:03 | Link to Comment MiltonFriedmans...
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I smell hunger games, get your seats early.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:01 | Link to Comment Let The Wurlitz...
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The month of October is the last chance to sell.  The music will stop.  Buy cash, physical, pay down debt, pay off cars loans and mortgages , etc etc. Dont say they did not warn us.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:36 | Link to Comment Ying-Yang
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Pay off debt? Why? Fuck the banks and the fed.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:03 | Link to Comment Schmuck Raker
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Meanwhile...
"IMF's Lagarde says urgent, co-ordinated action is needed in Europe at national and regional levels, there has to be some anchoring of expectations about what Europe will be in a few years time" - RanSquawk

The need to delay is even more urgent than we imagine.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:03 | Link to Comment caimen garou
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Obama to the europeans, it's good to be king! they just cant find a crown for that over sized cranium.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:04 | Link to Comment sharky2003
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#ponzischeme

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:05 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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Tom Lee (JPM) calls a steady rally to at least ES 1495 til election.  Then the direction of the market is determined by election results:

UP (Mittens)

DOWN (O)

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:05 | Link to Comment FiatFapper
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I'm interested to see if obomba tries to do a putin or chavez and serve four terms in office by manipulating the constituion; the horror.

Russian constition says noone can serve three consecutive terms, so he magically became prime minister for 3rd term under puppet Medvedev to negate this pesky ruling, then was "re-elected" as president this year - four consecutive terms in power.

Chavez wants to reform the Venezuelan constitution so lifetime re-election is included.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:40 | Link to Comment Abiotic Oil
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Moochelle Obama 2016!

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:20 | Link to Comment r3phl0x
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She might be the first white female president.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 12:49 | Link to Comment MiltonFriedmans...
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Just one more executive order away.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:06 | Link to Comment Son of Loki
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What did Panetta whisper to the Japanese during his visit?

"We'll have more flexibility after the election."

 

What did Panetta whisper to the Chinese during his visit?

"We'll have more flexibility after the election."

...and so on....

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:06 | Link to Comment Satan
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I wonder what Obama has offered in return?

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:10 | Link to Comment 101 years and c...
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$40 Billion/Month forever.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:06 | Link to Comment Manthong
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The Great Black Hope with a Nobel Peace Prize for a credential, a Predator drone for a tool, and a copy of Das Kapital.for a bible.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 10:06 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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As the ONLY guy who put Greece on the map as a geopolitical concern the fact that it is now beholden to whomever may be the next President of the United States is not a surprise (nor quite frankly does it bother me actually.) That leaves only two people I might add...and I have NO PROBLEM with EITHER. As an old girlfriend reminded me while I was in the service (who worked with then and STILL CURRENT Senator Patty Murray I might add) "Bill Clinton: Commander in Chief." I've still got that hat actually...:o

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